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Gibraltar complains about queues at the border with Spain; drop in tourism expenditure

Monday, July 27th 2015 - 05:30 UTC
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The Gibraltar Government has included the long queues of last Thursday afternoon at the frontier with Spain in its latest report to the European Union. Deputy Chief Minister Dr Joseph Garcia said the report will be presented “in order to draw attention to the manner in which the Spanish government is implementing the recommendations made by the commission”. Read full article

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  • Skip

    So Spain STILL hasn't gained anything from this?

    Wow takes those Spaniards awhile to cotton to failure..... probably why their economy tanked so badly.

    Jul 27th, 2015 - 07:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    Spain is little different to argieland. I recall Margallo visiting Timerman to see whether they could co-ordinate their childish activities to force courageous people to their will. We talk a lot about the Falkland Islands, but what about Gibraltar? Gibraltar was captured in 1704. In 1713, it was formally ceded to Britain in perpetuity. The infamous Treaty of Utrecht. Except that it isn't “a” treaty but a number of treaties. There were interesting features. Most especially, the only “waters” included in the treaty were in the Port of Gibraltar. However, during the remainder of the century Spain breached the treaty a number of times. Most notably by the number of sieges Spain conducted. It seems strange to repeatedly lay seige to a piece of territory one has ceded. Spain also claimed that Britain breached the treaty by allowing people to live there that the treaty said should be excluded. The beginning of Spain demanding compliance with certain treaty provisions whilst ignoring others. And so it has gone on. Spain seems incapable of understanding that it is not the 18th century anymore. When UNCLOS was being signed, Spain tried to include a clause excluding Gibraltar from having any territorial waters except those contained within the port. However, it was made claear by the UN, at the time, that Spain's clause had no effect. Gibraltar would still be entitled to territorial waters in common with other coastal territories. It is unfortunate that Britain does not take a legal and forcible response. Britain acts in accordance with UNCLOS, permitting “innocent passage”. It doesn't deploy the naval forces that would allow it to force Spanish vessels to stay on their side of the Bay of Gibraltar. And so Spanish vessels attempt to take “executive action” in British Gibraltar Territorial Waters. And the Gibraltar Squadron tries to counter 1,000 tonne Spanish vessels with 24 tonne launches. Gibraltar needs a frigate. At least. Ready to take appropriate action.

    Jul 27th, 2015 - 09:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • brucey-babe

    Agreed 100% Conqueror.

    Jul 27th, 2015 - 10:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • malicious bloke

    Gibraltar was controlled by the Moors from 711 to 1462. 751 years
    Spain from 1462-1704. 242 years
    Britain from 1704- 311 years.

    So not only has it been British territory longer than it was ever part of Spain, but the Spanish are only a distant 3rd when it comes to length of occupancy.

    If we are to negotiate the handover of Gibraltar to anyone it would be Morocco, as the heirs to the Umayyad Caliphate.

    Just because the Spanish squatted on Moorish lands for a couple of centuries doesn't give them title to it :)

    Jul 27th, 2015 - 10:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Mr Ed

    Spain still occupies Olivença, which it took from Portugal at the end of the Napoleonic Wars. Spain somehow regards Ceuta, which it took from Portugal but after a plebiscite, as its territory. Spain is a Yugoslavia without guns (for now) and plum brandy, it should really stop this neo-Francoist bombast and accept the fact that the Gibraltarians are happy as they are, they are not Spanish and the people of La Línea have a nice economic lifeline thanks to the relatively low taxes and regulations in Gibraltar. It's just hatred of Anglophones that drives them on.

    Jul 27th, 2015 - 11:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    @4 malicious bloke

    Actually Gibraltar was part of the Kingdom of Castile from 1462-1560(ish) and eventually became part of the country Spain but prior to this Spain was made up of various independent kingdoms.

    So Gibraltar was actually only Spanish territory for about 150 years (probably less).

    But like Argentina, Spain likes to rewrite history to make it sound like they held sovereignty for a long time.

    The Treaty of Utrect is dead. It was superceded by the UN Charter. So even if the UK didn't want Gibraltar anymore it would still be up to the people of Gibraltar as to whether they wanted full independence, join with Spain or join another country.

    Spain has NO SAY in the matter. NONE.

    It's about time the Spanish grew up and accepted reality.

    Personly I believe that we should take the French route and make all BOTs a full part of the UK. Of course that would have to be with the consent of the people of these territories but it would mean that ALL of the territories would be removed from the decolonisation list and put the C24 on the dole.

    It would also mean one less platform for Spain and Argentina to whinge over, and since all the territory would be UK sovereign territory, it would likely put Spain and Argentina back in their boxes.

    It could work, and think how angry and impotent both Spain and Argentina would be!

    Jul 27th, 2015 - 01:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron II

    “Gibraltar complains about queues at the border with Spain; drop in tourism expenditure”

    well, it is the best to protect tourists from visiting that stinky rock crowded with macacos and llanitos and monkey droppings.

    once england or the uk or little britain or the remains of the uk is out of the eu, the gate will be closed.
    will be fun to see all those macacos whining and moaning even more than now.

    Jul 27th, 2015 - 04:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    7 this is nowt to do with you,
    mind your own ,

    Jul 27th, 2015 - 07:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • brucey-babe

    7
    Close the gate and they will employ Morocans, did it before, can do it again. Now how many people in La Linea will rise up against their own government ? Paulcedron 11, you are lacking somewhat in the grey matter, aren't you? Now comes the tirade of abuse !

    Jul 28th, 2015 - 01:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron II

    9 pelotudo
    “they” will employ morocans?
    but, who the fuck are “they”?

    those 10.000 llanitos??
    lol
    it seems you, my dear pelotudo, dont understand they are a toy society.
    and a smugglers paradise.
    and a tax haven.

    their economy is inexistent, you braiwashed benny-hillbilly

    Jul 28th, 2015 - 03:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Skip

    Yep, but still not part of Spain.

    Jul 29th, 2015 - 12:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    And never will be.

    Jul 29th, 2015 - 05:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    @10 Paul

    “well, it is the best to protect tourists from visiting that stinky rock crowded with macacos and llanitos and monkey droppings.”

    Doesn't seem to deter the thousands of Spanish workers does it?

    If they are prepared to queue , there must be something good in Gibraltar that they can't get in Spain, otherwise they wouldn't bother queuing, moron boludo.

    Interestingly Paul, both Spain and Argentina have places called Moron, not by accident.

    Were you born in Moron?

    Jul 31st, 2015 - 11:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • aussiesunshinee

    *13 maybe you were born in:
    dent - Sedbery.North Yorhshire or
    donkey town - Camberley Surrey or
    crackpot - Swaledale. North Yorkshire or
    Cuckoo´s knob - Wootton Rivers. Waltshire

    were you?????

    Aug 01st, 2015 - 01:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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