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Scotland to ban growing genetically modified crops

Monday, August 10th 2015 - 06:05 UTC
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Scotland is to ban the growing of genetically modified crops, the country's rural affairs secretary has announced. Richard Lochhead said the Scottish government was not prepared to “gamble” with the future of the country's £14bn food and drink sector. Read full article

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  • CaptainSilver

    Scotch weather is so bad you cant grow much there anyway. It has been particularly awful this year and you you cant sit outside because of biting midges. Most seafood gets exported to the Club Med countrys because the Med is fished out and the Scotch dont generally like healthy seafood. GM crops enable the worlds poorest to grow pest resistant food with better yields. This action by the Scotch just displays how stupid their government is.

    Aug 10th, 2015 - 07:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Englander

    Good for the Scots, who have some very fertile and productive land, but how are they going to stop it blowing over the border.

    Aug 10th, 2015 - 09:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Idlehands

    When you look at your average Scot you'd assume they'd been eating GM food for years.

    Aug 10th, 2015 - 09:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Frank

    Deep Fried Mars Bars are not GM!

    Aug 10th, 2015 - 10:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    Thank heaven. Anything that removes the ability of the scotch to produce anything genetically modified. Scotch male impregnates scotch female, after she's drunk enough. Isn't that genetic modification? Make it a crime!

    Aug 10th, 2015 - 11:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 5 Conqueror
    How would he know whether she is sober or drunk: they always seem the same to me?
    @3 Idlehands
    Damn! You beat me to it, especially when you look at the headbangers infesting Glasgow and the surrounding area.

    If the morons don't want to have GM, even though it has passed all the tests, they don't have to have it.

    The only thing I dislike is the way Monsanto hold the rights to the seed after the growing season is over and want paying again for what must be a different seed to the one they originally provided. That is just wrong.

    Aug 10th, 2015 - 12:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @6. I don't think I can explain because it's a bit rude. However, contemplate the position of a scotch female throwing up and demanding an injection. Scotch females are always demanding injections. Several times an evening. Then several times a night. Have you heard the term “slag”? It stands for Scotch Legs Apart and Gagging.

    Aug 10th, 2015 - 01:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron II

    well done.
    otherwise, the stinky english would have stolen it.
    and english + genetic modifications = disaster waiting to happen.

    look what they have done with that aberration, conqueror....disgusting

    Aug 10th, 2015 - 02:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • EscoSes Doido

    Well done the Scottish government.
    Already an independent country really,- Just waiting for the part where we have full control of our finances.
    That will be after the next Indyref.

    Can't refrain but comment on the anti-Scot comments above. No points for guessing where those people hail from originally.

    Aug 10th, 2015 - 03:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 7 Conquer

    I am sure there must be some good people in Scotland but I have yet to find any.

    My best friend in the UK has a sister who is married to a Scot, they met at Edinburgh Uni.

    They both work for what passes as a government there and have well paid jobs involving having to travel around the Government Offices and they both drink like fish. Drive the cars: of course, show her tits at a formal dinner we were all at: of course (she had had a 'few').

    I was embarrassed for her 76 YO mother, a lovely woman, who didn't know what to say.

    An English business friend started a new, very specialised high performance castings, business in Glasgow when the oil industry was just taking off. None of the locals knew shit about what they were doing and it cost him serious money to train them to an acceptable level. At this point he was struggling to get orders against well established English businesses because of the increased costs, so what did the unions do?

    YES, the bastards went on strike because 'we know more now'! He did eventually make it and the main English business asked him if he wanted to sell, so he did and they closed the plant and took the work to England. I was pleased that he got out ahead of his real costs and chuffed that the arseholes lost their jobs.

    I could go on but it would seem as if I have got it in for the Scots when I don't, I just don't GAF about them.

    Aug 10th, 2015 - 05:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    paulcedron-
    the stinky English would have stolen it.[ just yesterday he loved us]
    he know not what he says, rather , the tong just wiggles.

    EscoSes Doido
    Already an independent country =not yet, ...

    GM=
    depends entirely what you want in life ?
    Example,
    Egg chips sausages bacon mushrooms chips and beans,

    or two tablets with flavouring,
    or the possibility of nasty additives that will never be disclosed, until we/the people start sprouting 3 legs or two heads, [get my meaning ]

    if the governments, tell you its OK==the run

    on this item Scotland /great Britain has my vote, and I would suggest the rest of the UK follow quickly, before we become none humanised.??

    Aug 10th, 2015 - 06:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Caledon

    @ChrisR
    I am sure there must be some good people in Scotland but I have yet to find any.

    Aye there's quite a few of us .Some of us even had the temerity to serve in '82 and had the cheek to help liberate Stanley ,Good grief some of us had the hard neck to actually die fighting alongside our English, Welsh and Irish comrades when we were down there.
    I could go on too but I do GAF about my UK mates who I served with because I've never had it in for them. I've always welcomed the diversity people from the home nations have brought to our forces. I was proud to serve with them all. It's what's made us the best in the world. It's a pity others don't feel the same way.

    Aug 10th, 2015 - 10:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Voice

    Well done.....a round of applause for all you southern pansies and your comments....
    Without the Scots...no Telly...no Telephone and so no Internet....hence no comments....
    Not English inventions, but a Scottish ones....

    ....anyone want a fight...?...I'll take you all....
    ..except Briton...he's not included...;-)

    Aug 11th, 2015 - 12:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • EscoSes Doido

    At 12 Caledon.

    I'm of the very same mind as yourself. It's a good way to be.

    Aug 11th, 2015 - 01:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    13 wee voice

    puffed up twit.

    The invention of television, the telephone, and the Internet, had no more to do with you than it did with me.

    Scotland as a whole, punches well above its weight - thanks to solid institutions of Law, governance, education, commerce, and resolve of a united British people.

    Those remarkable Scots that benefitted from that environment, and their own brilliant inspiration, are of course far removed from the braying loudmouths like wee voice of Dunoon - a different breed of Scotsman.

    The UK is stronger together, that's why the Trolls like voice and Dany revel in the idea of the Union breaking apart.

    Logie Baird was brilliant, and a friend of my Grandfather when he lived in SE England.

    Aug 11th, 2015 - 01:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Voice

    1
    You know nothing about Scotland....plenty of crops on the East...also ever heard of Poly Tunnels...take a trip to Dundee...acres of them....
    As for the biting Midges...the West Coast secret weapon to keep English tourists from returning....btw....they hardly get any on the East Coast...
    Lots of locals like myself, develop an immunity to their bite...I get bitten, but no effect...
    Understanding them is also how to live with them....
    Dancing midges...the larger ones you see in large groups...don't bite...
    Male midges can be annoying landing on you....but they don't bite they only exist for procreation....don't know what to do with themselves...
    The Sun...the midges have small lubricated wings the Sun dries them out and they fall out of the air...so stay in it, light clothes, the midge is attracted to dark ones...
    The female zones in on carbon dioxide exhaled...a swally of whisky confuses them and they can't find you...
    Move more than 7 mph the midge can't catch you....
    Light a fire...the smoke disguises your whereabouts...
    An outdoor fan...blows them away....
    Or like me you create an outdoor living area complete with a ten foot fireplace housing a large open fire a built in BBQ and micro wave oven, covered by a pitched roof and a ceiling fan....
    What midges...what rain...

    Aug 11th, 2015 - 03:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • brucey-babe

    The trouble with GM food is that you can only buy the seeds from them,, not B&Q or the garden centre, and he who has the seeds has the masses at his mercy, you pay their price for as little they deem necessary to keep you subservient, much as the EU is doing. And like the EU is a long time programme,

    Aug 11th, 2015 - 04:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 12 Caledon

    Some very valid points about the Scots fighting in the BRITISH army but let me pose a question to you:
    Salmon Face, when asked about the breakup of the Union and the effect on the armed forces claimed that the Scots would form an army and all the present Scots units would be absorbed. (Forget there is no money to do that)

    Would you (if you were serving now) do that, or would you stay with the UK forces?

    It's a genuine question, no catches in it.

    Aug 11th, 2015 - 06:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    16 voice

    Your long midge monologue is nothing more than DISTRACTION and a chance talk about you.

    Not relevant to the subject.

    Aug 11th, 2015 - 06:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Voice

    19
    Actually it's more about the Midge.....
    ...but hey if you want me to talk about you.... no problem....
    Soooo.....how do You feel about enabling me to have another post about me...?
    .....;-)))))))).....

    Aug 11th, 2015 - 06:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Caledon

    @18
    I fail to see the relevance of my political allegiance (if I indeed do vote) nor how I voted in the recent Referendum (if I indeed did vote) to your anti Scottish diatribe.

    I won't bother asking why you typed “BRITISH” thus.

    I served long enough to hazard a guess.

    Aug 11th, 2015 - 08:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • EscoSes Doido

    @21
    Good response. FYI I did 10 years British Army. (Scots Unit)
    Naturally I would have joined the Scottish armed forces in the 1980's if we'd had them to go to.

    Aug 11th, 2015 - 09:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Caledon

    I met many Ex Forces (and some serving) on both sides of the Referendum . From varied ranks too.I actively engaged with them. Both had good reasons for making their choice from the perspective of the Armed Forces .It was interesting to interact with such people who were prepared to weigh up the pros and cons and make a non emotive decision . Something which I found sadly lacking from some civvy quarters.
    I believe the Referendum (in the longer term) will have a broadly good impact on the Armed Forces in Scotland and on Scots who are based in other parts of the UK. Many of them know are a lot more politically savvy than we were in my time .They have a vote,it's their voice. They should use it .Then perhaps the politicians will stop offering platitudes to them and instead start offering policies for them.

    Aug 11th, 2015 - 10:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 21 & ' 22

    I am not at all surprised there was no answer to my question.

    You both clearly support the SNP.

    Are you aware, that despite claiming a superior ability to manage the independent nation, the SNP Party LOST £249,000 running the attempt at defrauding the taxpayers (known as the referendum): the ONLY major party to have made a loss in election year!

    Thank goodness for one of you, the other lives in Brazil, that you still have the English to pay for the inability of your so called 'government' to run a piss-up in a distillery.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/SNP/11797393/SNP-only-major-party-to-make-a-loss-in-2014.html

    Aug 12th, 2015 - 11:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    No disrespect guys,
    but it was the SNP that banned Scottish military people that was living /serving outside of Scotland at the time of the referendum,

    but this item just diverts and gets of the topic of GM Crops,

    and I just don't trust them, or the government who are secretly growing fields of these items,
    we could well be storing things up for the future,

    as they rightly say, we reap what we sow,
    I will stick with egg on toast......

    Aug 12th, 2015 - 04:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Caledon

    Clearly. You don't have a clue who I support.

    I'm aware of many promises that were made from both sides and how much was spent on both campaigns .

    Thank you for being so magnanimous .I'm sure all the Scots lads in my old mob will be indebted. Though they will be somewhat confused that you conflate the SNP with Scotland.

    Do you really think the best way to encourage unity is to insult the people who sit in the Scottish Parliament,(when most English people have expressed disgust at the antics of some Westminster MP's) ,irrespective of whether they voted for the incumbents or not ?

    Instead of disparaging Scottish Nationalism all your ideologue has done is espoused English Nationalism.

    I'm not at all surprised that your not at all surprised.

    Aug 12th, 2015 - 05:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 26 Caledon
    “Clearly. You don't have a clue who I support.”

    Hardly my fault is it when you do not make your position clear?

    Whether you like it or not the SNP, with the number of seats they now hold and all the braying they do unchallenged as it is by other Scottish people, ARE seen as the voice of Scotland.

    My judgement of the Scots comes from personal face to face experience at the highest levels in business over 40 years and the constant crap seen in the press as to how hard done to they are.

    If only that were true.

    I was ambivalent at the start of the referendum campaign but the SNP antics since being given this opportunity have just confirmed my own experience.

    If you think I am an English Nationalist (whatever you think that is) then all I can say is I back England and Britain, there is no longer any country called the UK as far as I can tell, the headbangers of the SNP have proven that.

    Paying tax in Britain gives me a valid voice and no Scot is going to silence it because the English are paying for your upkeep.

    Aug 12th, 2015 - 06:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • EscoSes Doido

    At 24
    Chris, I actually spend as many, or more days in Scotland than I do Brasil on an average year.
    at 27
    'the English are paying for your upkeep'

    I have to ask Chris, - What planet are you on? You are obviously taking the biased information MSM feeds you. (The Daily Telegraph for instance)

    Check the figures on how much UK revenue come from Scotland.

    We (Scotland) will be independent soon. Meanwhile you may continue stewing away in your own world of resentment, erroneously believing you are supporting my country.

    Aug 12th, 2015 - 09:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Caledon

    @27
    Hardly my fault is it when you do not make your position clear?

    And yet you said “You both clearly support the SNP”

    They were democratically elected or do we just accept the results we like ?

    I too deal with business men/women and ranking forces officers all seem happy to have located/based in Scotland.
    Out of the 4 home nations Scotland attracted the biggest %age of inward investment last year.
    Is the capers of a political party reflective of its nation ? Did Michael Heseltine's Mace frolics mirror some archaic Welsh pastime ?

    Paying taxes in Britain also gives the Scots .Welsh and N Irish a valid voice too and it's equal.
    Who has tried to silence you ?

    England has never paid my upkeep .I have paid my own way in life and that of my children until they were old enough. I will continue to do so until I retire then claim the pensions that I have worked for and contributed to since I left school.

    Aug 12th, 2015 - 10:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • EscoSes Doido

    http://www.businessforscotland.co.uk/where-does-scotlands-wealth-go/

    Aug 12th, 2015 - 10:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    “Now it is customary - even south of the border - to point out that Scotland has greater spending needs than many other parts of the UK, because it has a higher unemployment rate, for example, and higher levels of expensive illnesses like heart disease and cancer.”

    Ha, ha, ha.

    “ it has a higher unemployment rate” - self-inflicted wounds due to the rabid unions demanding unreasonable terms resulting in many companies going elsewhere.

    “and higher levels of expensive illnesses like heart disease and cancer.” Another self-inflicted wound with chronic diet deficiency (the fabled deep fried Mars Bars, etc), the chronic alcoholism and not forgetting the levels of smoking.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/business-16477990 from Jan 2012.

    @ 28 EscoSes Doido
    ”We (Scotland) will be independent soon.”
    In your dreams, the majority of the Scots know that the likes of Salmond and The Hag haven't got a clue about running the country.

    I personally hope you do. It will be like the snotty teenager who wants to leave home and the regrets it immediately the bills start coming in and tries to go back. I just hope those in what is left of the Union tell you 'you made your bed, live in it'.

    I have dealt with your final sentence.

    Aug 13th, 2015 - 05:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Caledon

    “ it has a higher unemployment rate” - self-inflicted wounds due to the rabid unions demanding unreasonable terms resulting in many companies going elsewhere.

    Really ? Were their no striking pits in England no shipyards ,no steelworks? Did the Liverpool Dockers not achieve nationwide support for their strike .What about Ford Dagenham ? Were they more/ less radical ? Strange how I recall standing on a picket line in support and in unity with my English/Welsh/N,Irish colleagues on a few occasions. Considering my former Union National Executive sat and made decisions in London I doubt they thought us Scots a hotbed of radical militancy.

    I don't think I've ever met someone who's ate a deep fried Mars bar .Perhaps it's one of those apocryphal tales we tell gullible English tourists .
    ”Aye they do say (swivels eyes from side to side) If ye eat a deep fried Mars bar on yon banks o' the Ness (swivels eyes from side to side ) Ye may catch a glimpse o' yon Bonnie Nessie creature (nods head in an assuring manner) ”

    Yep .Like we've never served with English/Welsh/N.Irish lads that like a pint or two (medical research showed in England 9 million people regularly take more than the recommended daily level of alcohol..9 million..That's more than the population or Scotland ) .
    Smoking ..Dunno stopped years ago as far as i'm concerned pay a tenner for a pack of ciggies take all you get. Although I did have an admiration for a lad in our old mob who could make a roll your own with one hand ..Oh and he came from Somerset.

    Aug 13th, 2015 - 08:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 32 Caledon

    there are no docks at Liverpool other than the container terminal.

    Ford of Dagenham: not there now other than a parts distribution and some offices.

    And the pits! That lot were so stupid they followed 'King Arthur' into a strike when they had the maximum stocks of coal possible at the power stations! Still, they paid for that arseholes vanity.

    I bet your Union National Executive sat and made decisions in London! With 'the pound in your pocket is still the same Harold Wilson' was it! Another lying bastard he was (and shagging his 'personal secretary').

    It's OK, I think I have a handle on you.

    Aug 13th, 2015 - 09:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Caledon

    Exactly

    Exactly

    and (with certain caveats) Exactly

    So we're agreed that militant Trades Unionism (and managers) was present throughout the UK and not just Scotland and your diatribe was more a slur against the Scots rather than an realistic appraisal of Industrial Relations of the 70' and 80's .
    Yes it did I told you it sat in London .Don't recall Mr Wilson being present.Then again i never sat on the Nat Exec. But it sat in London with Dear Blessed Maggie of the ERM and Mr John Major .(The one who was shagging Edwin Curry...Allegedly ) But then we could all call politicians lying bastards can't we ? coz it's easy politics innit ?

    Do You ? When every assumption you've made about me has been wrong ?

    Aug 13th, 2015 - 10:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 34 Caledon
    “Do You ? When every assumption you've made about me has been wrong ?”

    Given your posts, I think I do. YOU have no idea what 'the handle” is though do you?

    Aug 14th, 2015 - 07:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Caledon

    Given your posts, I think I do

    Do You ?

    YOU have no idea what 'the handle” is though do you?

    Tell me why I don't

    Aug 14th, 2015 - 09:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Voice

    35
    Is this a new trend of yours...Scotland bashing...?
    Not usually your mark....
    ....are you baiting...?

    Don't make me focus on you....

    Aug 15th, 2015 - 12:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    37 wee man

    “Don't make me focus on you....”

    pfffft...

    who could be bothered... but you ARE easily baited.

    Aug 15th, 2015 - 01:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 37 Voice
    “Is this a new trend of yours...Scotland bashing...? [1]
    Not usually your mark....
    ....are you baiting...? [2]
    Don't make me focus on you....” [3]
    [1] Not at all! I have NEVER met a Scot (in Scotland) that I would consider to have a reasonable attitude, it's all about how the Sassenachs have always and continue to oppress them. 49 years of experience cannot be overcome by some Scot blowing his own trumpet.
    Plenty of reasonable Scots OUTSIDE of Scotland though. I wonder why they left the place if it is so 'good'.
    [2] No, see 1.
    [3] Well, you have done so before and it didn't seem to work out too well for you with plenty of others coming to my defence. :o)

    Aug 15th, 2015 - 12:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Voice

    39
    “I wonder why they left the place if it is so 'good'.”
    Probably the same reason you left England...the weather and somewhere cheaper to live...and make their pension stretch a little further....

    Yes, it's nice to have folk that will come to your defence...

    Aug 15th, 2015 - 07:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 40 Voice

    Almost correct.

    The main reason to move was the health of my wife which I am glad to say has been improved beyond our wildest dreams.

    Aug 15th, 2015 - 09:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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