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Falklands unaware of Argentina's scholarships program geared to Islanders
Falklands' Director of Education Tom Hill has confirmed that no approach has been made to the Falkland Islands Education Department regarding a free scholarship scheme with a Patagonian university in Argentina. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesIt's hard to see how Argentina can offer anything to people it refuses to talk to.
Sep 04th, 2015 - 09:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0Perhaps a Malvinista could explain.
Maybe Films has pocketed the money already......and which famous Patagonian University was this for ?
Sep 04th, 2015 - 09:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0Did they contact the Dep of Education in the UK?
Sep 04th, 2015 - 09:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0If they didn't then this is pure politics. But for the life of me, I can't work out their angle.
So they have gone from 'non-people' and 'illegal squatters' to being offered 10 subsidised places at a university. Would this not be seen as the islanders exist as a people in Argentina. And how does that look in world politics, would it be seen as offering dialogue or seen as hypocrisy. Giving tax payers money to fund the 'illegal squatters', surely that is treason in Argentina.
Perhaps it is for external consumption, offering paid places to the mainland as a friendly bigger neighbour, so in the UN and other talking shops they can say 'Look we are being nice and offering these 'squatters' a chance to better themselves'.
Personally I think they want to brainwash the Islanders 10 at a time. The problem they seem to have forgotten is that the Islanders are far cleverer than they are.
@3. What are the experiences of Islanders going to argieland?
Sep 04th, 2015 - 09:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0I have to admit that, if I were an Islander, I would be very worried about going to a country that sees me as a “non-person” or “illegal squatter”.
I think you may have something with your third paragraph.
@3
Sep 04th, 2015 - 09:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0Logical consistency has never been a major consideration in the Malvinaverse. Only a Malvinista would think it's possible to extend both a bog stick and an olive branch at the same time. As with most Malvinas initiatives, it's most likely aimed at the domestic audience. When it turns out there are no takers, the cry will go up “well we tried to be nice to those ungrateful bastards!”
I believe their plan is to try and look generous while hoping it will be able to indoctrinate any takers.
Sep 04th, 2015 - 09:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0Since the war the islanders have made other arrangements. There's not really any need or incentive to accept this poisoned chalice.
It would appear that both common courtesy and protocol has been ignored here. Understandable from the RG's perspective as a curt f**k o*f often offends.Exchange schemes are usually prestigious, offering educational kudos and academic gravitas with the opportunity to study abroad Again, typical of this banana republic to take an auspicious scheme ignore common decency and standing, then offer arrogantly as if it's gracious. It's not .It's crass ,vulgar,conceited and probably carries absolutely no credibility amongst international educationalists.
Sep 04th, 2015 - 10:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0#3 Buzzsaw - I don't see it as the Education Dept UK's concern - it's the FI Dept of Education they might have consulted with before releasing this scheme. Oh, but, wait, 'squatters' wouldn't have any kind of functioning education department, would they? No young Islander in his or his family's right mind would accept this offer from Argentina.
Sep 04th, 2015 - 12:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@8 Alsy, my point being, that if they consulted the DFE in the UK, at least they would have shown a seriousness (though misguided and ineffective) to their offer. They refer to the Islanders as non persons, therefore they should have, at the least spoken with the UK, as that is who they see as the governing/colonial/evil empire overlords.
Sep 04th, 2015 - 12:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How will the Islanders get to hear of the offer otherwise? Mercopress?
Maybe they just want one of the students to get pregnant by an Argentine (Maybe Fatsimo Kirchner) then they can claim sovereignty based on some bizarre first born emperor/president, male lineage, bunkum. You heard it here first.
I agree with Buzzsaw and Conquerer this is just a cynical bit of Argie posturing to satisfy their fan club of miscreants and quasi commie looser nations who mumble their support whilst casting their eyes skyward behind Filmus's back.
Sep 04th, 2015 - 01:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As generous as this offer may seem from the Arg's, there is a hidden danger: Arg regards any Falkland Islander as an Arg citizen. There are large number of complicated and illogical laws on the books in Arg and its provinces regarding the “Malvinas”. A Falkland Islander studying in Arg could easily end up in legal trouble without having done anything wrong, just to be a pawn in the Args' stupid political games.
Sep 04th, 2015 - 01:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I don't know how Argentina could afford tuition, residence, an allowance, and flights for ten awardees.
Sep 04th, 2015 - 01:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just looking at the photo of their campus building in a state of neglect, long overdue for paint and maintenance, one can see they are woefully underfunded already.
In my opinion as arg. one of the responsible of our situation is the UN , that avoid to find a solution. When I read UN 1965 resolution , that arg based on their demand s over Falk - malv Island s my conclution is that probably Falk Is will be an independent territory or what ever they want . This conflict is anachronic, it s must be solved perhaps like Chile & Peru territory & sea disputy through La Haya International Court
Sep 04th, 2015 - 01:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@13
Sep 04th, 2015 - 03:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There is no conflict. The FALKLANDERS want to be a British Overseas Territory and voted for it. End of discussion.
13 Diefra- You speak like a normal and sensible Argentine - welcome to here as there are few of you! Yes the Int Court of the Hague is the only place where a legal decision could be reached. I disagree with the Arg claim - but it is there and it exists, we have made our views and wishes very clear in 2013 as Golfcronie says - but there is a dispute - that is reality. A realistic solution is probably a generation away yet.
Sep 04th, 2015 - 03:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I understood that the FI government already paid for students to attend UK universities? Considering the high international status given to UK universities, why would you go anywhere else? e.g. 45 UK universities in the top 400 worldwide universities https://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/world-university-rankings/2015/world-university-rankings#/sort/0/direction/asc Not so many in Argentina (0)
Sep 04th, 2015 - 06:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Islander1 , thank s you for your comments . Our problem is cultural . They taughts us at school,as if Falk Malv were the promise land. I hope that the next arg gov will have a different view. But the UN doesn t help enough with Arg & Falk demands . Following Chile & Peru demands because it is similar to our problem, Perú claims only for the sea, not for the land , becuase of course , the population who lives now , in the territory lost by Peru during Pacific war are now chileans , so its so difficult to imagine that they want to be peruans again
Sep 04th, 2015 - 07:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Once Again the argentine government assumes ?
Sep 04th, 2015 - 07:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0does things, and pass things over the heads of the islanders and the UK,
After all, why should the argy government consult anyone other than the argy press or civilians,
Next they will be issuing Malvinas passports to anyone that wants one,
Perhaps the islanders should remind these brain dead , brain washed argies that they are British, and not argentine property to be banded or bribed to the highest bidder,
just my opinion..
Living where I do, I have written to the university asking for a prospectus and information. Using my .fk e-mail address. No response as yet. I think this is most likely to be something for the home market and international platform to say, “Look, we tried to offer an olive branch”. Apart from no one wanting to go there when they can go to the UK, this is one is not meant as a serious bid t gain support in the Islands or abroad.
Sep 04th, 2015 - 10:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Falklands unaware of Argentina's scholarships program geared to Islanders”
Sep 05th, 2015 - 12:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0That is no surprise; after all as far as Argentina is concerned the Islanders are ‘non-people’.
I am not quite sure how a university can offer a scholarship to a ‘non-person’ but we are dealing with Argentina – the land of illusions and confusions.
Argentine foreign policy with regard to the Falklands is aggressive on most days but extends the olive branch of scholarships on others. Will the module: ‘The Malvinas and how we was robbed’ be a compulsory elective?
The Falkland Islanders would be forgiven for thinking that their nearest neighbour is a real life version of the Rocky Horror Show. I bet they are glad to have a large swath of the South Atlantic to act as time warp between them and the ‘forbidden planet.’
17 Diefra- yes cultural to some extent on both sides,but language apart we have similarities with rural life in southern Patagonia, and it will take a long time for current attitudes to change- 12 years of Kirschner policy has well undone the “put sov. aside and get to know each other” of the Menem administration of the late 1990s.
Sep 05th, 2015 - 12:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0Utter baloney.
Sep 05th, 2015 - 12:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentinas citizens speak Spanish and the FALKLANDERS speak English, now judging by the the translation of Mercopress one could say it is a new language SPANGLISH, an amalgamation of the two languages.
Sep 05th, 2015 - 05:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0South America would be much safer and happier if Argentina broke up into 4 or 5 regions.
Sep 05th, 2015 - 10:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0is there any classes on demining,or do the propogandists just forget about the thousands of death traps they left.
Sep 05th, 2015 - 01:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@13 diefra
Sep 05th, 2015 - 02:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Assuming you are Argentine (I am English), it appears that you have the intelligence to have read the contents of UN resolution 2065 properly.
Many Argentine posters here ,when challenged on the 'with regard to the implementing of Independence for colonial countries, ' 'regarding the provisions of the UN charter 'and 'taking into account the interests of the population' suddenly go silent and point only to the fact that the UN requested the two countries Argentina and the UK to discuss the situation.
Another question I have asked Argentine posters is, if the interests of the Islanders mean they cannot attend talks between Argentina and the UK on the future, what in Argentina's opinion are the 'Islander's interests'??
I have never received a reply on this point, implying that Argentina does not know what the Islander's interests are. so would welcome your opinion.
My take on the resolution (2065) is not that it favours continual ownership by Britain, or annexation by Argentina, but points towards Independent status for the islands, and it seems to suggest that both the UK and Argentina should talk to assist the Islanders in achieving Independence, rather than who ends up being the colonial master.
I hope you understand from a point of common sense why the Islanders wish to remain aligned with Britain, rather than go it alone at the present time.
Another question for you.
Whilst Filmus here has offered free university education for a limited amount of islanders;
are Argentines told that already, any Falkland Islanders who qualify are sent to study at UK universities with all the costs paid for by the Islands government?
A few fun stories:
Sep 05th, 2015 - 06:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.ww4report.com/node/14284
http://www.ww4report.com/node/14284
http://www.ww4report.com/node/14284
Perhaps the islanders should offer to educate argentine children,
Sep 05th, 2015 - 06:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0at least they will learn true history about the truth instead of proper gander..
#26 Pete Bog
Sep 05th, 2015 - 10:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A good, sensible post.
”26 Pete Bog Thaks for your opinions : A high number or arg has not read UN resol, so their opinions are based on arg politicians speechs, so we have a problem
Sep 06th, 2015 - 01:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0UN resolution is anachronic its based on the spirit that a high numbers of Africans & asians colonies become independent. In this resol includes Malv Falk.
UN is responsible of this situation due to it doesn t provide an alternative solution to solve this problem . Every year Arg claims to UK to have a meeting to discuss an every year UK includes falk isl at the table and Arg refuse and the UN doesn t help in this matter .
For answer your question about islanders interest , nowadays Falk Malv for Argentina have the status as a part integrated of Tierra del fuego province . I heard that arg gov promise to islanders to keep the language and costumes but under arg flag . As you know this situation will be imposible so don t worry about CFK bullyng speechs its only to get more votes for her campaign.
Regarding Filmus is a looser and we pay his salary for nothing. Arg provides free university for everibody includes foreign students so a lot of southamericans studying here f ex medicine that is an expensive carreer.
I hope that I have answered your questions. is not easy to guess what arg policians think in this matter The only way is La Haya in my opinion. Once this disputy is over Falk Isl economy will grow more than now , Thanks & regards
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Sep 06th, 2015 - 10:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“For answer your question about islanders interest , nowadays Falk Malv for Argentina have the status as a part integrated of Tierra del fuego province . I heard that arg gov promise to islanders to keep the language and costumes but under arg flag .”
Thank you diefra. I think you have answered the question.
You can see for Islanders that make their own laws and have a say in running their country, that Argentina seems to be taking Argentine interests into account rather than the Islanders Interests.
What sane people are going to chose a situation which means they have less freedoms/opportunities than they have now?
“ Once this disputy is over Falk Isl economy will grow more than now”
And,diefra. Argentines could be benefitting from trade with the Islands and could actually get oil money from the Islanders, if that money was used to buy Argentine goods, services and provide Argentines with jobs.
I expect you can see the economic benefits to Argentina if they were friendly with the Islanders.
31 Yes I m abolutely agree with you perhaps the only disputy in my opinion is the exlusion zone , due to was made by UK after the war, and have a projection over Antartic territories.
Sep 07th, 2015 - 02:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0But the solution should be simple if both countries solve this matter in La haya
Arg & Chile solved many borders difference at Intern Courts . In this matter Arg failed, but I don t understand why UK follows Arg in this game
diefra @32
Sep 07th, 2015 - 08:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0'Arg & Chile solved many borders difference at Intern Courts . In this matter Arg failed, but I don t understand why UK follows Arg in this game'.
The UK is under no obligation to seek a judgement under the UNICJ, it is for Argentina to move the process forward if they want the ICJ to determine the 'dispute'. Argentina are powerless to assert their 'claim' in any type of physical confrontation and therefore there is very little effect on the islanders. If for example Argentina annexed part of the islands and set up camp there, without the UK being able to remove them, then I am sure a trip to the ICJ would be in the Islanders interests. But where no credible threat exists, there is no need to deviate from situation they have now.
The Falkland Islanders have voted overwhelmingly that they are happy with the Status Quo, they wish to remain a BOT until they decide otherwise.
So why would the Islanders need to clarify the situation or get a ruling through the ICJ? The Islanders own the islands, they are free to run their affairs and free to manage their economy without the interference of a third party. The Islanders have what they want, but it is Argentina that wants what they don't have.
Buzzsaw 33 I m agree with you about self determination at xxi century is a right, but an other question is why southamerica block Falk Is economy supporting Arg demands. In fact UN supports too with its silence I dont know how many cases similar to this , is not punished by UN.? It is an extrange situation
Sep 07th, 2015 - 02:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Blocked an economy is unprofitable, In a normal situation Falk Is would grow up its economy more than now, ( tourism, cultural english classes, manufacturing , the same for Patagonia Arg)
Arg as any citizen in a normal country, should have a place , or court, where its demands being heard, of course some are anachronic and others not for ex ( exclus zone), This situation is common between countries that share borders with an old disputy , F ex Peru & Chile are partners and Peru claims to Chile a sea s area that belong to Chile at La Haya and this is not a problem for them to have a good relationship, instead off Chile didn t accept this claim
Instead off this situation Arg should improve relationships with falkland & UK without bullyng
Diefra, please show us why you think the UN supports you with it's silence. The last UN GA resolution regarding the Falklands was in the 80's and didn't even mention the Sovereignty Claim. Recently Ban Ki Moon in interview with Arg journalists stated that Self Determination was the right of people (in relation to the Falklands) and that the UK are not in breach of any current UN resolutions.
Sep 07th, 2015 - 02:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So tell us how ids the UN supporting your governments stance.
If Argentina were to drop it's spurious claim, then maybe things would change, but there you go, in typical Argentine fashion....'Arg as any citizen in a normal country, should have a place , or court, its demands being heard'.
You do not have a right to demand anything, you want something that is not yours or never has. Just by demanding something enough times will not make it yours.
Please remember, Argentina went to Arbitration over the Beagle Channel, when it lost they refused to abide by decision. Why should the Islanders trust you.
Buzzsaw: I m appologize if I was aggresive with my question. It is not my intencion. I ve never heard about Ban Ki Moon regards about Falk self determination so I appreciate your comment about this.
Sep 07th, 2015 - 05:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Again , I m agree with you about self determination it s a human right.
So I try to explain that every year Arg gov claim at UN & the UN don t say : Argentina you don t have reason. don t claim anymore. Besides , Southamerican countries support Arg at UNASUR meeting .
My idea is to exchange ideas and listening or read other opinions, I m not the typical Arg fashion , I am an open mind person
Regarding Beagle Chanel military gov refused the decision, When democracy return to Arg people voted to accept this decision. Nowadays Arg & Chile finished with all borders disputy.
36 diefra
Sep 07th, 2015 - 06:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“So I try to explain that every year Arg gov claim at UN & the UN don t say : Argentina you don t have reason. don t claim anymore. Besides , Southamerican countries support Arg at UNASUR meeting”
Diefra,
you are quite right to point out that the UN has not said, “ Argentina you don t have reason. don t claim anymore.”
However, they have not endorsed the claim either.
In fact, no decision has been made at all by the UN, whether it is a legally valid claim at all.
The UN merely states that the two sides should talk and resolve it amongst themselves, peacefully, and even that is non-binding.
In effect, the UN is saying, “work it out amongst yourselves.”
UNASUR can only render an opinion. They are not recognized as an unbiased international court or arbitrating body.
Only the ICJ can render a binding decision, and only if both sides agree to abide by it.
In the end, respecting the self-determined wishes and interests of the Islanders themselves, is the route to the moral and legal solution.
36 diefra
Sep 07th, 2015 - 06:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Don't YOU think that after 250 years of being British, the islanders have earned the right to chose who they wish to be associated with,
they wish to remain British at this moment,
Argentina has been independent for abt 180 years or so,
and they have a right to be Argentinian,
Now surely even you can see, that if the Falkland's have no rights of freedom or self determination after 250 years,
then Argentina definitely has no rights after only 180 odd years, would you not agree..
38 Briton I ve never said that falklanders have not rights , of course you have , for me the only disputy is the exclusion zone, because Arg & UK haven t got and agreement about this zone . in spite of, UK , ARG & falk should work together to improve relationship its only an opinion
Sep 07th, 2015 - 10:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0250 years? I studyed that the first people visited Falk were french
39 Diefra
Sep 08th, 2015 - 01:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0I think this is a reference to 1765 - a short settlement in Port Edgemont by the British.
One of a few visits prior to 1833, some concurrent with Spanish ( not SA Spanish ) settlement and French settlement - regardless, well before UP involvement.
No inheritance of Spanish 'possessions' passed to Arg. as UP was actually in rebellion against Spain, and the Falklands were 1,000 miles away from the UP sphere of influence.
Troy tempest, thanks for your comments and explanations , and appreciate the comments of the other users. In Arg sites is difficult debates with arguments , but more people have a possitive attitude for a change
Sep 08th, 2015 - 04:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0Diefra @39....Actually the first recorded landing was made by an Englishman, Captain John Strong, in 1690, just ahead of the French (1701), so in fact the first recorded person to visit the islands was indeed English. But as you correctly state (I assume you meant settled rather than visited) the French were the first to build a settlement on East Falkland while 6 months later and unknown to each other the English built a settlement on West Falkland.
Sep 08th, 2015 - 06:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0#39 theirs no current exclusion zone around the Falklands south Georgia or the sandwich islands.
Sep 08th, 2015 - 09:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0They are BOTS and unlikely to claim independence when Argentine ministers claim the only thing stopping Argentina is the military garrison.
the FIDF could be upgunned with atgw and manpads to make a landing difficult but better to make it an unthinkable idea with fast jets sams radars nuclear subs and fast jets with lots more on tap than a dangerous gamble.
Diefra...I think the problem a lot of free thinking people on here have with the Argentinian's on here, is that they are very blinkered in their view and knowledge of the issues.
Sep 08th, 2015 - 05:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It appears that many of you (assuming you are Argentinian) have been led to believe that the first interest that GB had in the Falklands was in 1833, you government has systematically erased any pre 1833 British history relating to the Islands before that date, or portrayed it as irrelevant.
You have unwittingly made several statements yourself which show that through your knowledge of the history of the 'Malvinas', that you have been sold a very one sided view.
There are glaring gaps, mis-information and plenty of rhetoric in the information you have been told (presumably in Argentina). From the '..I ve never heard about Ban Ki Moon regards about Falk self determination so I appreciate your comment about this. ', to....in fact UN supports too with its silence ' and '....only disputy in my opinion is the exlusion zone , due to was made by UK after the war, and have a projection over Antartic territories. '
Have you ever wondered why and when the Islands were named the Falklands? That in itself may give you an idea of why people are fed up with the misinformation coming from Argentin.
Another little bit of information for you to ponder, in 2008 the UN held a vote, sponsored by Spain and Argentina (with reference to Gibraltar and Falklands) with regard to the right of self determination only being applicable to territories that do not have a sovereignty dispute over them. The members of the UN voted not to change the rights of self determination, it should remain that all NSGT and all peoples without qualification should have the right to self determination. So you see it appears that the UN in that instant was supporting the Islanders and not supporting the claims of Argentina or Spain.
Diefra
Sep 08th, 2015 - 07:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0this might help you.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falkland_Islands_sovereignty_dispute
Falkland Islands sovereignty dispute
Buzzaw, Briton , thanks for your time & explanations
Sep 08th, 2015 - 10:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0. I read in Internet about Falk History told by brits. And when I compare with Arg history some inconsistence appears.
I Knew that brits set up in Falklands during xviii century , then lost with spain . Arg history say that french, brits, & spanish set up in differents moments up to Arg Independence in Falklands, In 1831 more or less an arg war ship set up and there are no people at this moment. In 1833 some brits ships desembarked or landing ? at Falk Is and throw to argentina argent people. Rosas that at this moment was Bs As government claim for this attitude to UK and UK ignored this claim . From this period up to peron government is a gap , perhaps official hist doesn t tell, but UK & and Arg had an excellent relationship between 1880 until 1930 35 . From Peron government up to nowadays the claim continue.
I try to be briefly . I know that history some parts are real and other a novel. Perhaps one day both countries supporting Arg and brits historian who tells the history just in one way
@46 diefra
Sep 09th, 2015 - 05:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0This may help you. The authors are genuine academics and had access to Government files in Buenos Aires.
http://www.falklandshistory.com/historia-falsa.pdf
Gordo 1 . Excellent document, I read just a little . so why in your opinion UN Comitte aproved the resolution? South American s countries support Arg blocking Falk economy , except Lan Chile flights, ,
Sep 09th, 2015 - 05:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Do you think that UK should claime at UN about this situation?
Regards
Are you falklander gordo = fat , only for curiuous
@48 diefra,
Sep 09th, 2015 - 07:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“ Excellent document, I read just a little . so why in your opinion UN Comitte aproved the resolution”
The UN Resoluton 2065 was only in effect, an advisory that the two parties should discuss possible PEACEFUL solutions to Args claim to sovereignty.
It was non-binding, meaning they were NOT obligated or compelled to negotiate, and it most certainly did not say that the UK MUST surrender the Falklands to Argentina.
When Argentina unilaterally set its own terms of sovereignty hand over, by military invasion, that changed the political situation and was not in line with Resolution 2065, issued in 1965.
UN Resolution 502, issued in 1982, was BINDING and stated that Argentina MUST withdraw their military from the Falklands - Argentina refused and disobeyed that resolution.
Do you think that ALL of SA supports an economic blockade of the Falklands, or do they just SAY they do, publicly, to put on a show of Mercosur solidarity?
The british falklands belongs to the people that have lived on them for centuries,
Sep 09th, 2015 - 09:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina has no rights whatsoever ,
they are just after the wealth and the oil.
49 Troy tempest.
Sep 09th, 2015 - 10:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“ Do you think that ALL of SA supports an economic blockade of the Falklands, or do they just SAY they do, publicly, to put on a show of Mercosur solidarity?”
It s a smart question , Argentina push through UNASUR to block Falklands economy, especially over Atlantic coast , Uruguay Brasil. If it s effective or not i don t know
I heard that falklanders advise that this situation , and I m surprise that UN dont say anything , In fact as argentine I m disagree,
UN bloody usless,
Sep 09th, 2015 - 10:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0when it does get it act together its ok,
most of the time it makes great use of that great invention [ the fence ]
48 Diefra- S.America does NOT support the Arg attempt at economic blockade.
Sep 10th, 2015 - 03:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We have direct shipping links with Chile.
We have direct shipping links with Uruguay.
Occasional air charter flights come in routing through South America.
@51 diefra
Sep 10th, 2015 - 06:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Although Argentina want 'all' regarding the Falklands, do they ever consider that if they were friendly to the Islanders that would be real 'Argentine cunning; (vivez criolla???), as the Falklands would be spending their money buying Argentine goods, services and maybe paying wages to Argentines.
You yourself have recognised that Menem sending Pingu videos etc rather insults the intelligence of people that are well educated.
But real Argentine intelligence would involve being friendly with them and getting their money-which now goes to Chile/Uruguay/UK etc.
I realise pride prevents them doing this, but at the moment Argentina get nothing financial from the Islands.
To me, if money from the fishing or oil was spent in Argentina, then even if they are not benefitting directly from the Falkland Islander's resources, they would in effect be receiving those resources indirectly by trading.
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