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Falklands: recreational area next to Stanley could be cleared of Argentine mines after 33 years
A popular recreation area that has been out of bounds for over thirty three years for the people of the Falkland Islands, Yorke Bay, only a few miles away from the capital Stanley, because of the mines laid by the invading Argentine forces in 1982, could in a near future be cleared and again open to the public. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesArjuntina should pay!
Sep 05th, 2015 - 09:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0They should, but they wont..
Sep 05th, 2015 - 10:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0Slowly but surely the Islanders are reclaiming their Islands.
Sep 05th, 2015 - 10:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0As for the nation who laid these indiscriminate weapons....No apology,No sense of shame.Not even the slightest hint of embarrassment And they call themselves civilised.
The FI should send the bill to Argentina and publicise it ,and the refusal to pay.
Sep 05th, 2015 - 11:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0The People of the FI are far to civilised to do this,unlike the neighbours .
33 Years... surely in that time Argentina being a civilized country (Just) must have at least once offered The Falklands Government to rightly clear these mines, as any country with an ounce of conscience could not live with the fact that a child could easily die by standing on one of these indiscriminate weapons that they laid so many years ago.
Sep 05th, 2015 - 04:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No bodody is that bitter, twisted, stupid and ignorant to put innocent civilians in harms way for so long without trying to make it right.....SURELY!!!!!
You only have to see the argies in Uruguay who have driven their Mercs and big SUV's like maniacs from the ferries down the IB to PdelE, park on The English Shop car park, taking up at least two spaces, and then swagger into the shop together with a women with an 18 YO lookalike figure but with an eighty YO face full of walnut shell creases to realise they don't live in the real world.
Sep 05th, 2015 - 06:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's all bullshit of course but it makes them feel manly.
Contrast that with the Argentines who have lived here for years and have no wish to go back to TDC while TMBOA and the Peronistas are there. I count many of them as friends, they are lovely people.
And that is the dichotomy that is Argentina today.
All those guys that remove these terrible things should get a medal for public service,
Sep 05th, 2015 - 06:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0just saying like.
@Briton
Sep 05th, 2015 - 08:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Very true.Dangerous job for the bravest of men.
Shame the people who layed then we're not forced to remove them.
They did make half-hearted offers to remove the mines, but on their terms.
Sep 05th, 2015 - 08:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nobody wants to see the Argentine Army back on the Falklands & can you imagine the spying & mileage that they would crow about to anyone who would listen.
They knew what they were doing & a lot of it was spite-
“Well we can't have the Falklands, so we'll despoil it for you” type of mindset.
Disgusting, despicable people.
Stay on your side of the water, you arrogant creatures.
Watched the Vulcan on display at the Scottish Air Show today.
Sep 05th, 2015 - 09:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Lovely sight, fantastic display, amazing!
Great today and in 1982!
As arg I posted that I disagree how arg government manages malv - falk situation . Probably in a close future you will be an independent nation , unfortunatelly UN doesn t help enough to solve this problem
Sep 05th, 2015 - 10:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Regarding mines, i know from a friend of mine that Arg offered during 90 th to UK to remove the mines but UK refused it, so Arg gave the maps where mines have been bured. the problem that mines continually moves in the sand.
I understood all the opinion that qualified us as neanthertals but a lot of arg have an open mind too, so I hope that would exchange ideas and comments , thanks & regards
11 Diefra - Yopu are correct - The organisation clearing the mines has got full copies as such exist from the Arg Army of minefields from 1982. This was organised at the start with the trip here before all the clearance work started of 1 or maybe 2 retired ex Arg Army engineers who were here in 1982 with one or 2 Br Army engineers and they went out and studies the minefields as they compared to those records and updated them.
Sep 06th, 2015 - 12:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0Because of the active Sov Claim, and attitude of the Kirschener Govt though there was no way we would ever accept the prescence here Arg Army personnel assisting on the ground with the clearances.
”How Falkland islanders plan to help the world by keeping their land mines”
Sep 06th, 2015 - 04:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2005/jun/11/uk.falklands
BBC
”What does help the clearance teams is knowing where the mines lie, thanks to careful plans left behind by the Argentines.
On a computer screen in the nearby office of the Falkland Islands Demining Programme, technical adviser Guy Marot clicks between an aerial photo of two cleared minefields and a hand-drawn diagram of the same spot, to demonstrate how reality matches the plan.
He scrolls through pages of numerical records, entitled Armada Argentina (Argentine navy) with tables of numbers corresponding to exact positions where mines were laid.
To date, he says, the records have been accurate.
“It does show us where the mines are, in what rows and in what configuration,” he says.
But it is not just Argentine weapons they are looking for.
On Sapper Hill, next to the minefield, is a strip of land where the British dropped cluster munitions, a more random dispersal“
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2005/jun/11/uk.falklands
“Different units had lain minefields on top of each other” (around 1 minute 15 seconds in on this clip)
Sep 06th, 2015 - 07:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8S_dcgay_w
#13 “.........thanks to careful plans left behind by the Argentines. ”
Sep 06th, 2015 - 09:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0Oh, so that makes it all ok does it?
They have to do that, its the L A W law!
@13 Marcos,
Sep 06th, 2015 - 09:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0Of course we wouldn't have a problem with mines if the lnvading Argentines had stayed in their own country & not tried to steal ours.
@11. Unfortunately, argie records were “inadequate”. http://fiassociation.com/article.php/513 Not surprising once the Task Force had arrived. We can imagine the couldn't care less attitude of argies trying to lay minefields and map them whilst terrified of the British armed presence. Could we have 117,000 argies to play hopscotch of the minefields?
Sep 06th, 2015 - 11:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0You sound intelligent. Are you, or are you just trying to con us?
Never, never, never refer to the Falkland Islands by that spanish name. “Malvinas” is in Cordoba.
@13. Please go away. You're an embarrassment. All the other sub-humans must tell you that.
Marcos, you are a consistent source of entertainment and amusement to us all. Please post your nonsense more frequently. You would make a great threesome on the stage with KFC and Gollum!
Sep 06th, 2015 - 03:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Argentine forces that invaded the Falklands were shambolic in so many, many ways. Everyone knows how they buried mines in an unbelievably haphazard and reckless way, completely contrary to military principles. They may have managed to dig their holes to hide mines but experienced great difficulties digging latrine pits for their own use. As a result, British soldiers on the battlefield could smell the Argentines before they saw them, giving a wonderful element of surprise for our forces. Thank goodness the Argentines were so unprofessional and from what we hear they are even worse now.
Sep 06th, 2015 - 03:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It would drive me nuts if I had to put up with those horrible, nasty things in close proximity to where I lived, for 33 years. Good riddance to bad rubbish.
Sep 06th, 2015 - 05:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The English Miguelito in Malvinas:
Sep 06th, 2015 - 05:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Mike Summers, a member of the legislative council of the Falkland islands government, said: ”There are a lot of mines in the Falklands, but they are not that intrusive. Clearly there is an issue about clearance, but unless they are cleared 110% we are not going to take the fences down anyway. If that can be done, then fine. If the British government was to invest money in clearing mines then we would be more than happy for them to invest it in other countries. Our needs are not as pressing as other people's”
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2005/jun/11/uk.falklands
17- Conqueror: I will try to have a posittive attitude . Yes next time i will only write the word falk , i have no problem with this , my idea is to exchange opinions, in order to help to finish this disputy. Arg gov should apologize to falkl , brits and arg soldiers about the war. Here arg journalist say everyday that was a big mistake but unfortunatelly arg gov didn t say anything . Of course with CFK is impossible , so I will light a candle that next arg gov try to get a possitive attitude towards falk , regards
Sep 06th, 2015 - 06:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@21 Mr Summers MLA is stating “Clearly there is an issue about clearance” Despite this, Islanders are more than prepared to put the needs,safety and aspirations of another country before their own .
Sep 06th, 2015 - 06:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0WHOOSH......!!!!!
You know what that was Snr Alejandro ?
The sound of irony going way over your head.
Since the Argentos can't be trusted in any other aspect of contemporary civilisation, it would be massively foolish to expect them to be able to decently clear the minefields that they created. It's a job best left to others, who have a sense of responsibility.
Sep 06th, 2015 - 06:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 023 Caledon
Sep 06th, 2015 - 06:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The sound of reality going way over your head... straight from the (Englander) horse's mouth:
“Mike Summers, a member of the legislative council of the Falkland islands government, said: ”There are a lot of mines in the Falklands, but they are NOT that intrusive”
There are a lot of mines in the Falklands, but they are NOT that intrusive”
Sep 06th, 2015 - 07:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thus to alleviate the danger of the situation against the residence,
does not your local official to 0ften lighten things up , so as to not cause either panic or in most cases demonstrations.
he is merely being polite and cautious.
“Mike Summers, a member of the legislative council of the Falkland islands government, said: ”There are a lot of mines in the Falklands, but they are NOT that intrusive”
Sep 06th, 2015 - 07:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Marcos, you havent been there and seen all the minefield signs have you?
Dont waffle about things you know nothing about.
Pass the popcorn…
And the coke...lol
Sep 06th, 2015 - 07:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Marcos, my boy, it doesn't matter whether some people consider the mines “intrusive” or not……
Sep 06th, 2015 - 08:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The fact is that these mines SHOULD NOT BE HERE.
And they wouldn't be if YOUR ARMY HADN'T OF ILLEGALLY INVADED THE FALKLAND ISLANDS!
The complete blame of 100% lies with Argentina.
Wriggle, squirm & lie just as much as you like, Marcos, but the blame lies with Argentina.
This is NOT your country, no matter how many times that you think it is.
You tried to steal our country & failed.
Accept the truth & move on.
Marcos! You have been told… Verbal lashing… squirm, wriggle, latino pride squashed by a lady… looking like limp dick…
Sep 06th, 2015 - 09:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@25 Marquitos Alejandrito
Sep 07th, 2015 - 05:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0Did Summers state that they mines WERE NOT intrusive? He said they were NOT THAT intrusive? Two different things, boludo!
More of your juvenile drivel!
31 Dear Gordo
Sep 07th, 2015 - 06:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yes I know that I have a pair but I also know that you don't. Let me remind you that you are the one who had to reveal your income to your father in law in order to get marry, not me.
@32.Still don't get irony do you ? As 1 or 2 people have pointed out the duplicity of your somewhat tortuous, viveza criolla inspired interpretation.I won't bother going there, thus compounding your humiliation.
Sep 07th, 2015 - 10:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0But here's something.....
Interestingly enough, you regard MLA Summers as an “Englander”
Really does say everything about you doesn't it ?And that word came straight from the horses mouth, unprompted ,didn't it ?
WHOOSH....!!!!
You know what that was.....Don't you ?
The Falklands are British,
Sep 07th, 2015 - 06:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina is not=full stop,
so stop the crying, they got their first...lol
Well the good news is if Jeremy Corbyn wins Argentina gets what it wants
Sep 08th, 2015 - 12:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/be33a3ee-cb93-11e3-8ccf-00144feabdc0.html#axzz3l9AtGfFJ
@35
Sep 08th, 2015 - 01:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So, what do you think is going to happen?
JC gets elected leader of the Labour Party - probable
Labour party wins next election in 5 years time - unlikely
But supposing they do get elected - JC straight on phone to Fat Max - 'lets talk about the FI Max - er by the way what are you bringing to the negotiating table'
'Only our right to sovereignty senor'
“OK Max and how do you suppose I'm going to get that one past Parliament and the British people not to mention the Falkland Islanders themselves' .
”They area a non-people just ignore them“
”OK Max - thanks for that bye...oh before you go, don't call us Max, we'll call you”
Aussiesunshine aren't you a bit old for wet dreams
darragh : Your comment is truth & funny . This situation is anacrhonic , unprofitable, without common sense. I posted in another opportunity that an Intern Organizat ONU , La Haya, somebody should say something about that this discussion is over, the exclusion zone it s only, in my opinion and the projection over Antartic zone in fact the problem to fix limits , We have a lot of problems to control chinese fishing vessels that they are fishing and depredates our ocean, We must care our Patagonia - Falk zone , We must need to thinks like southamericans in order to care our nature s beauty
Sep 08th, 2015 - 03:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falkland_Islands_sovereignty_dispute
Sep 08th, 2015 - 07:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Falkland Islands sovereignty dispute
The British Falkland's that is...
@32 Marquitos Alejandrito
Sep 08th, 2015 - 07:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Please explain exactly to what you referring?
By the way, you are too juvenile for them to have dropped yet!
@35 spanishsunshinee,
Sep 08th, 2015 - 08:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And you won't get Gibraltar either.
Sad
39 Gordito querido
Sep 09th, 2015 - 02:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0You are old enough to know what I am talking about, rugbier de cuarta :-))
@41 Marquitos Alejandrito
Sep 09th, 2015 - 05:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0You still refuse to explain your drivel? And what does a “rugbier de cuarta” have to do with this thread?
@35 aussesunshine
Sep 09th, 2015 - 09:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Well the good news is if Jeremy Corbyn wins Argentina gets what it wants”
So what if the Labour MPs don't agree with Corbyn? They're not going to get it through parliament.
Corbyn has voted against Labour governments, what makes you think the 'centre' element of the Labour Party will not vote against him?
If Corbyn loses the vote-it's resign time, bye bye.
Wilson tried to sell the Islanders out in 1968-how did that go then, when parliament heard about it?
Ridley tried it in 1980-how did that turn out when put it to parliament and he was barracked by everyone, including Labour MPs??
Jeremy Corbyn if elected labour leader,
Sep 09th, 2015 - 09:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0will almost certainly systamaticly destroy labour from ever getting power.
it just wont happen,
but then again CFK got elected, so anything can happen...
When you look at the mass hysteria surrounding Jeremy “Crazy Commie” Corbyn, you quickly conclude his hero-worshippers can be divided into two categories: politically naive youngsters and intellectually sclerotic pensioners. Forget anything Putin's pet MP might have said about the Falklands, no one takes him seriously, just as they ignore his calls for a united Ireland. He fails to explain how he would deal with the civil war this would trigger. Yet another example of his facile, simplistic, schoolboy, right-on Marxist solution to every problem. He will prove a nightmare for the Labour party.
Sep 10th, 2015 - 01:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And a Christmas present for the conns..
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