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Cristina Fernandez celebrates Corbyn as “the triumph of hope”
Argentine President Cristina Fernández congratulated Jeremy Corbyn for the victory in the elections of Britain’s Labor Party calling him “the great friend of Latin America” and for supporting dialogue with London to discuss the sovereignty of the disputed Falklands/Malvinas Islands. Read full article
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Sep 14th, 2015 - 08:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0well, that's the kiss of death for him, then!
Sep 14th, 2015 - 08:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina's government..... always backing the loser!
Sep 14th, 2015 - 08:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0Also he actually believes in democracy and talking to people so the idea that Argentina is getting the Falklands not happening.
Sep 14th, 2015 - 08:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0The legal case is bogus.
The islanders don't want it.
UK population dont want it and Argentina has nothing useful to offer
I don't think Corbyn is quite the friend she thinks he is but he is so unlikely to ever be Prime Minister so it really does not matter.
Sep 14th, 2015 - 09:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0So far Corbyn has avoided being interviewed and has sent his deputy instead, who thinks he is the leader and has his own agenda.
It is like watching a car crash in slow motion.
“the triumph of hope.”.....
Sep 14th, 2015 - 10:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0May be for a backward, third world country like Argentina who are about 50 years behind.
Clutching at straws again
Sep 14th, 2015 - 10:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0Mr Corbyn's first priority is to consolidate his views for the Labour Party- which is in disarray; he not going to lose sleep over the Falklands.
Sep 14th, 2015 - 10:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0CFK is merely manufacturing to stay in, what she imagines, is the international arena. She has to keep knocking on as many media doors and windows as she can to stay in the news. But they are insipid appearances.
The Falklands.....an asset or a liability...does it cost the British tax-payer money or save them money...
Sep 14th, 2015 - 10:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0It was never going to be a winnable debate from a common sense point of view and as the electorate becomes younger memories fade of war and conflict...
Governments come and go....
Self Determination to be part of Country that Could sell you down the river is worthless....
Civilised people don't measure other people on whether they are “an asset or a liability”.
Sep 14th, 2015 - 11:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0It is not a commonsense debate. Only by dehumanising someone can you then measure whether they are “an asset or a liability”.
“Self Determination to be part of Country that Could sell you down the river is worthless....”
Well lucky that self determination is guaranteed by the United Nations. The UK can walk away from the Falkland Islands however it can't transfer sovereignty to Argentina.
@9. You have a lot in common with Corbyn. He appeals to the desperate and is trying to appear “relevant”.
Sep 14th, 2015 - 11:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0The “question” that you pose has been answered on numerous occasions, but we'll try one more time. The Falkland Islands costs the British taxpayer NOTHING. Because the forces deployed would have to be paid for wherever they were.
@10 You beat me to it.
Sep 14th, 2015 - 11:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0“an asset or a liability” maybe we should apply that to old people?
Voice who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing. Shallow as a bird bath.
The Silly Bitch seesm to think Corbyn is now PrimeMinister!!! Voice or Think or Marcos - can you give her a phone call and explain - he is just the leader of the opposition Paty - who got decimated a few months ago in the national elections - and actually as yet have little chance of getting back into power for 10 years or so.
Sep 14th, 2015 - 12:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Also what you may say as a backbencher with no responsibilities for your actions - becomes a bit different when you actually do have power and have to answer for what you say - people tend to think first then - well all excepting Arg Presidents who have a fine record of opening mouth and inserting both feet at once.
“Also what you may say as a backbencher with no responsibilities for your actions - becomes a bit different when you actually do have power ……” As the LibDems discovered. Their voters left in droves when they realised that fantastical promises cannot be delivered.
Sep 14th, 2015 - 12:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 9 Voice...'Self Determination to be part of Country that Could sell you down the river is worthless....' , you are not wrong there Voice, thank God the Islanders decided to stay a BOT. Although I don't think there was ever any chance of the Islanders voting to join Argentina, but as you say, that would have been worthless.
Sep 14th, 2015 - 12:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Good job that they still retain the option to become an independent nation, couldn't see that being allowed if Argentina ever got their grubby hands on those Islands.
10/12
Sep 14th, 2015 - 12:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I live in the real world, people have been de-humanised, even the military now refer to troops as assets...
If people took preference over policies collateral damage would not be an acceptable calculation...but in the real world it is...the UN only asks that the interests and not necessarily the wishes of the islanders be taken into consideration...
Who are the UN to guarantee anything...a talking shop..the UK currently is the Country claiming Sovereignty not the Falklands, that is only a NSGT...
The Falklands had to ask permission for a referendum and it would have been even less meaningful without UK backing....
Bedsides the UK holds a veto on the Security Council and can veto anything the UN decides...
...be afraid...be very afraid...the writing is on the wall....
So having been married three times and two of these marriages to Latin American women (a Chilean and a Mexican and both economic and political exiles from their respective countries) makes him a “great friend of Latin America”?
Sep 14th, 2015 - 01:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What a stupid remark from la Kretina!
16 Voice, Vestige, Think et al
Sep 14th, 2015 - 01:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“The Falklands had to ask permission for a referendum ”
That is incorrect as that would mean the UK or any other similarly placed nation would have veto power over established international law.
@16 You live in your own world. You have been de-humanised but I haven't and neither have the majority. What a strange and depressing person you are.
Sep 14th, 2015 - 02:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What exactly are we to be afraid of? You are the one living in fear not us.
La Kretina makes a stupid remark and Alicia Castro follows suit,viz
Sep 14th, 2015 - 02:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/Jeremy_Corbyn/11863351/Argentina-Jeremy-Corbyn-is-one-of-ours-when-it-comes-to-Falkland-Islands-dispute.html
But let's put things in perspective - Corbyn received 251,417 votes(59.5%), for Leadership of the Labour Party, out of a total of ONLY 245,520 cast.
At the UK General Election in May 2015,which won by the Conservative Party with 11,33,576, the Labour Party received 9,347,304, the Liberal Democrats received 2.415.862 and the Scottish National Party received 1.454.436 - a total of 24,552,178 votes cast at the GENERAL Election.
Thus, ONLY 1.02% of those who voted at the General Election have voted to elect Corbyn as leader of the Labour Party. NOT VERY IMPRESSIVE and hardly deserving the remarks of la Kretina and the Trolly Dolly.
Corbin is a bad tempered, not particularly intelligent, communist wanker.
Sep 14th, 2015 - 02:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He doesn't understand basic econonomics and would ruin the Country in 6 months. No wonder turkey neck is getting excited.
He hates the British people, despises the USA and would be quite happy to join Putin and invade the rest of the Ukraine. He s a danger to world peace and if he ever makes it into power I hope the nuclear weapons are taken away from him.
With a bit of luck he'll go for a long lonely walk near some woods with a small pen knife.
Do we know when he is going to actually speak to the electorate? So far he has been sending out Tom and ignoring any questions from the media.
Sep 14th, 2015 - 02:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Corbyn's remote chances of winning a general election have just diminished yet further with this endorsement.
Sep 14th, 2015 - 02:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I got my figures wrong @20
Sep 14th, 2015 - 03:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0432,664 votes were cast at the Labour Leadership contest - not 245,520. The other numbersI have quoted above are, I believe, correct.
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Sep 14th, 2015 - 03:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'm pleased you know the exact constitutional relationship that all BOTS have with the UK...as I don't. As far as I'm aware they all have different degrees of self governance...
The UK Govt technically had veto power over the Scottish referendum and I'm sure Madrid also has veto power over a Catalan referendum....
The UK made a provision to allow it....Madrid hasn't....
I'm sure not all international law has internal jurisdiction....
Voice, what is the definition of 'Interests' in relation to the Islanders. Is there a definition to what the word 'interests' means in this instant. It may be the case that the interests of the Islanders are more onerous and detailed than their wishes. As it hasn't been defined, I find it strange that you take the stance that their interests are worth less than their wishes and this somehow gives Argentina a 'carte blanche ' to decide what happens to them as long as they look after their interests. To the Argentines, this seems to mean allowing them to have a UK passport and speak English if they want too.
Sep 14th, 2015 - 03:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@22
Sep 14th, 2015 - 03:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“and ignoring any questions from the media.”
I know you don't click on links, but this one will explain to others your point. He was worth £3.00 of anyones money - comedy gold : )
http://news.sky.com/story/1552000/corbyn-reveals-full-shadow-cabinet-line-up
@25 Since the union of Aragón and Castilla in, I believe, 1474 and then upon the succession of Carlos 1( also known as Carlos V) Spain has been one country (with the occasional addition and then departure of Portugal.) Cataluña was ruled by the Aragoneses.
Sep 14th, 2015 - 03:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thus the case of Cataluña cannot be compared with Scotland as the latter, although united under the same Head of State, has always had a measure of independence for example in its legal system. There is no United Kingdom of Spain.
@16. Scotch desperation mouths off again. The UN is only a talking shop with little worth and even less intelligence. As you admit. The UK will NOT abandon the Falkland Islands or its people. We, Britain, lost 255 MEN. But those MEN fought, and DIED, for what was and is right.
Sep 14th, 2015 - 04:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There is a distinct proposition that Corbyn will be removed. The best option would be politically as the people of Britain appreciate his cowardly, communist, economically-disastrous “policies”. However, there are other options. And scotch cretins like him!
The point is that in his calls for “dialogue”, he has not been fully apprised of the fact that Argentina regard this as bipartite over the heads of the Islanders and against their rights of self-determination. I doubt that the FI will be top of the list right now.
Sep 14th, 2015 - 04:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Barring a miracle, I think it is highly unlikely that he will be PM so the discussion is somewhat academic. He will be useful in recalibrating the centre ground of British politics which has moved markedly rightwards in recent years (although this is countered by the refugee crisis which will be also pulling the centre ground to the right).
Labour owes as much of its heritage to Methodism as it does to Marx and I suspect Jeremy Corbyn is in the latter camp which will alienate some people. It will get rid of some of the professional politicos that stood against him in the election. The issue was that the choice of other candidates was so poor.
So nice of the Labour voters to hand the next election to the Tories on a silver plate.
Sep 14th, 2015 - 04:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 026
Sep 14th, 2015 - 04:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Can't give you a definition...typical UN ambiguity....
On the plus side, it means I can say...
The UN is not concerned with your wishes, but your interests will be taken into consideration...
It has an ominous ring to it....
The UN is irrelevant it has no power whatsoever over the so called dispute, Corbyn will never be PM, the only thing that counts is if the UK decides to submit to the IJC which scares the pants off the Argentinians. This is a discussion about things that are never going to happen. nothing ominous whatsoever except in the minds of those who wish the Islanders ill will like 32 and his sock puppets. Wish away - and be disappointed!
Sep 14th, 2015 - 04:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 032
Sep 14th, 2015 - 05:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That's just as expected, ambiguity works both ways....the 'interests' can mean quite literally anything.
I would also agree that the UN should not be interested in their wishes, as wishes are not always achievable.
I would add however, that you, like many Argentine 'Malvinas' sympathisers, seem to think that 2065 is the road map to Argentine sovereignty and hand over of the Islands. You seem to have forgotten that it relates to 'the granting of independence'. In that instance, it would be in the Islanders best interest know that they were unlikely to be invaded by their bully of a neighbour and therefore in their best interest to retain a relationship with GB. They decided that in 2013. You see, that is the great thing about ambiguity, it woks just as well for me as it does for you.
Corbyn is at best a fool or at worst a traitor. You can usually judge people by the company they keep and Corbyn has some very dodgy friends. He supports Hamas, Hezbollah and the IRA and spends a lot of his time cheerleading for Putin on Russia Today.
Sep 14th, 2015 - 05:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'm amazed he got an invite to the privy council. I'd imagine with Corbyn's background he'd struggle to pass any sort of positive security vetting.
Anyway not sure how long he's going to last as leader when 90% of the Parliamentary Labour party cant stand him and wont serve with him. They certainly wont follow any sort of policy that leads us to leaving NATO or abandoning the Falklands. So he's a leader unpopular with the country leading MP's who just wish he wasn't there any more. This is Car Crash television and poor Jeremy's demise is inevitable.
He's like a cow standing on top of a flag pole. No one is quite sure how he got there and the only inevitability is at some stage he'll fall. Better for the Labour if he quits today.
A Fool is a fool thinks they are on to a winner, only to find out you have been ad??
Sep 14th, 2015 - 06:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Mr corbyn may well be a potential notch on that elusive bed post,
but she will not be in the bed, she will be gone.
mr corbyn may well have a left agender but the people are middle of the road,
in a nut shell,
Argentina has more chance of getting sovereignty over brazil, than she has of getting their thieving hands on the BRITISH Falkland's,
And I think even the Brazilians would think that was NUTS...lol
@32 wee voice
Sep 14th, 2015 - 06:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Can't give you a definition...typical UN ambiguity....
On the plus side, it means I can say...
The UN is not concerned with your wishes, but your interests will be taken into consideration...
It has an ominous ring to it.... ”
Oh, give it a rest Clever Dick!
You know very well that Hector Timerman tried that exact line, two or three years ago, in front of the C24 or some such.
One of his grossly condescending 'reasonable offers' to the Islanders...
It was laughed at then, it's just as ridiculous now.
Creep
Why worry,
Sep 14th, 2015 - 07:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0the earliest he can gain power is 5 years away,
he may well not be here in 5 years.
What's all that fuss abut me mate Corbyn being a communist?
Sep 14th, 2015 - 07:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He's a freaking Capitalist.
He owns two bicycles!
Chuckle chuckle...
the great friend of Latin America
Sep 14th, 2015 - 07:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 02nd biggest joke this year...
Wow! Good signs pointing to an evolution in the Labour Party!
Sep 14th, 2015 - 07:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Jeremy Corbyn appears as an interesting politician that could change England for the better. Furthermore, the fact he won his party's nomination shows a change in his party's members views.
I wish him the best of successes.
HA HA HA,
Sep 14th, 2015 - 07:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 03RD BIGGEST JOKE THIS YEAR..
Argentina: Jeremy Corbyn is 'one of ours' when it comes to Falkland Islands dispute
Argentina's ambassador to the UK claims the Labour leader's victory was “without doubt” a sign of a “change of winds” in the UK over the Falklands
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/Jeremy_Corbyn/11863351/Argentina-Jeremy-Corbyn-is-one-of-ours-when-it-comes-to-Falkland-Islands-dispute.html
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And apparently Argentina thinks corbyn may give over our defence to them, to enjoy free,
billions to help them out,
any more praises from argy twats and corbyn may well be more popular than the pope.
@41 Enrique Massot
Sep 14th, 2015 - 08:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I see you have appeared again!
Jeremy Corbyn is a joke - his nomination was a joke and his election is a joke, Please refer to my @20 and @24 when you will see that the number of people who actually voted for him to become the leader of the Labour party were only 251,417 against the number of voters at our General Election in May 2015 of 24,552,178 - just above ONE PERCENT.
So you should see that his election is hardly a democratic success. It is risible.
who is this guy...
Sep 14th, 2015 - 10:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0comes from nowhere and wins the leadership......something aint right.
always been a labour voter...wont be for the time being especially now that he has the backing of cruella and the fact hes a fruit cake.
I'd never heard of JC until a few weeks ago so I've done a bit of checking and it seems that:-
Sep 14th, 2015 - 10:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0a) He was born in Wiltshire and grew up in a large Manor House in Shropshire.
b) Went to a private Prep School
c) Went to a private Secondary School
d) Was very poor academically
e) Has never had a proper job so knows nothing of the working class
f) Knows nothing about poverty as he has never been poor nor lived in a poor family
g) Thinks all the world's problems can be solved by riding a bike although I saw him on Sky News leaving his nice London house in a taxi.
h) Appears to know nothing about economics
I) Appears to know nothing about geopolitics
j) Apparently can be a back-stabber at Corleone levels
k) Likes to mix with the world's loonies
l) Is very wary if not actually paranoid about the media
Isn't that a description of what used to be called a 'champagne socialist'.
The Tories must be laughing up their sleeves and the SNP must be crapping itself as he seems to agree with them on practically every level.
And yet he is fast becoming a pin up for south American leaders .lol
Sep 14th, 2015 - 10:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Surely being praised by CFK is the supreme insult for a British politician!
Sep 14th, 2015 - 11:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What's this? Communists “sticking” together?
Sep 15th, 2015 - 11:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0Well I never.
It'll be on YouTube next.
@16
Sep 15th, 2015 - 12:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“the UN only asks that the interests and not necessarily the wishes of the islanders be taken into consideration...”
According to the UN, what exactly are the Islander's interests (as opposed to their wishes)?
Are you suggesting that resolution 2065 suggests the Interests of Argentina take precedence over those of the Falkland Islanders?
Because according to the resolution it states that the Islander's interests should be taken into account.
So, Voice, what are the interests of the Falkland Islanders?????
Our courageous soldiers, sailors and airmen shed blood to free the Falklands from the cowardly Argentine invaders. If anyone thinks their sacrifice will be ignored by the British people, they are fools. The Falklands are and will remain free and independent. Corbyn's twisted and perverted ideas have as much chance of becoming reality as Corruptina Kirchner has of winning a beauty contest.
Sep 15th, 2015 - 03:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And I was just thinking of giving him my vote at the next election :) - but if he's got Cristina's support then he certainly won't be having mine. The two of them are welcome to each other.
Sep 15th, 2015 - 04:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As a Conservative of many years standing I thought it my duty to the Party to pay my £ 3.00 to join the Labour Party and vote for Corbyn. Worth £ 3.00 of anyones money, pity was I only had one vote not like in Tucuman.
Sep 15th, 2015 - 05:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0After all, this is the same labour party that used to think Scotland was one of their electoral strongholds.
Sep 15th, 2015 - 06:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Serious disconnect from the real world going on here.
As for Corbyn, for a man who doesn’t like the press he has just stuck his head in the meat grinder.
@52 golfcronie
What! I voted 15 times (and at no extra cost), vote early vote often.
And he could not even sing the national anthem,
Sep 15th, 2015 - 07:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0anti British he was , anti British he is.
The UK will be returning the Malvinas within the next 25 years.
Sep 16th, 2015 - 04:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0@55 Hepatitis
Sep 16th, 2015 - 05:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0Wrong - again!
But 25 years never comes Hepatia!
Sep 16th, 2015 - 10:33 am - Link - Report abuse 055 Hepatia
Sep 16th, 2015 - 02:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina will return the Chaco it stole from Paraguay before anything changes in the Falklands. And when the Chaco is returned to its rightful owners, perhaps its starving people will get the food they deserve. To think that when the Qom aboriginal boy Oscar Sanchez died in the Chaco last week at the age of 14, he weighed 11 kilos. Shame, shame, shame on the corrupt, criminal, bankrupt, murderous Kirchner regime which allows children to starve to death. But, let's face facts, Corruptina is so ignorant and callous she has no concept of shame.
Why does anyone even reply to 55,
Sep 16th, 2015 - 06:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0he is obviously on leave from the nut house.
@ 58 ezekielman
Sep 16th, 2015 - 07:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Apparently it is only a problem when Gringos let children drown on the shores of Europe, CFK letting them starve in Argentina seems to be ok.
The president also indicated that she didn’t want “anybody to come and say the northern countries should be an example, those countries that expel immigrants and leave kids to die on their beaches.” Argentina is “a country of immigrants and I don’t want to look like those who let people die in the hold of boats”.
http://en.mercopress.com/2015/09/11/cristina-fernandez-wants-argentina-in-brics-and-asks-lula-da-silva-to-act-as-the-lobbyist
“a country of immigrants” nah an implanted population more like.
@59 Briton
Sep 16th, 2015 - 07:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I reckon it’s a she(ish).
Argentina is in good company. Corbyn backs many terrorists.
Sep 17th, 2015 - 05:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But a message to Argies. Corbyn wont last. He's considered unelectable by the vast majority of the UK population.
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