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Falklands' government congratulates new Labor leader, Jeremy Corbyn
The Falkland Islands Government has congratulated the Leader of the Labour Party, Jeremy Corbyn MP on his election success. Mr Corbyn’s campaign to take up leadership after Ed Miliband resigned in May, touched a raw nerve with some Islanders after media picked up on a BBC interview from two years ago in which he said a “degree of joint administration,” could be used as a solution to the dispute over the Falkland Islands. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesIt seems the Labour mob have a death wish as demonstrated by electing this idiot as Leader. Good!
Sep 18th, 2015 - 11:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0Perhaps Diane Abbott will give him a consolation shag when he loses the election.
To Editor
Sep 18th, 2015 - 12:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It is NOT the “Labor” Party but the “LABOUR” Party.
Corbyn is quite capable of giving serious thought to selling out the Falklands. For him it would be a highly suitable epitaph for Thatcher - that her great triumph, the cornerstone of her political career was all for nothing. It would put a quite different perspective on the war - History could end up opining that it was a not particularly well run campaign which turned out to be fruitless in the light of subsequent events. The attraction of this scenario, when pitted against the rights and aspirations of a bunch of sheep farmers who have no particular claim on Corbyn might prove to be overwhelming. And surrendering the Falklands could give Corbyn added legitimacy in the third world, though why he would want that is not clear - the appeal of having Latin American, Asian and African politicians slapping him on the back must eventually wear thin.
Sep 18th, 2015 - 02:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He isn't going to sell out the Falklands. And the reason he isn't has nothing to do with principle, nothing to do with self determination or whether the Brits did or did not throw some Argies off the Islands in the Nineteenth Century. It has solely to do with oil. Whatever Corbyn would like to do, his party will not allow him to give away oil reserves to Argentina. That of course assumes a) there is enough oil to make development worth while, b) that the physical challenges can be met and c) Argentina does not take it into their heads to bomb the platforms. Absent oil and with Corbyn in power, however, I would say all bets are off.
And that, finally, is the biggest question. Is Corbyn electable ? Highly improbable. Let's hope it stays that way.
The people on the islands are not 'a people' by any international law, they're British citizens and as such any negotiation is between the UK and Argentina.
Sep 18th, 2015 - 05:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The tens of millions of people of GB shouldn't have to leave their foreign relations in the hands of 3000 seasonal residents with vested interests.
Even in the Labour party, Corbyn is one of a very few who support the idea of dialogue with Argentina on the subject of the Falklands.
Sep 18th, 2015 - 05:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If indeed that is still his position.
In the somewhat unlikely event he does get to be PM, can’t see even his own handpicked cabinet supporting him on that, never mind Parliament.
Unlike a Presidential system the PM cannot do whatever he/she want regardless.
@ 4 Wastage of Space
Sep 18th, 2015 - 06:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Wrong again.
General Assembly resolution 1514 (XV) of 14 December 1960
5.
“Immediate steps shall be taken, in Trust and Non-Self-Governing Territories or all other territories which have not yet attained independence, to transfer all powers to the peoples of those territories, without any conditions or reservations, in accordance with their freely expressed will and desire, without any distinction as to race, creed or colour, in order to enable them to enjoy complete independence and freedom.”
Seems the UN regard them as “a people”.
And no mention of third party interlopers so Argentina are the ones who are not involved, it would seem.
Vestige must be related to FCK to have such a view....or maybe just a foolish Marxist.
Sep 18th, 2015 - 06:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.un.org/apps/news/infocus/UNdecoded/UNdecoded.asp?NewsID=1320&sID=48
Sep 18th, 2015 - 06:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Today, fewer than 2 million people live in what the UN terms Non-Self-Governing Territories (NSGTs).
The UN monitors progress towards self-determination in the Territories, of which there are currently 17: American Samoa, Anguilla, Bermuda, British Virgin Islands, Cayman Islands, Falkland Islands (Malvinas), French Polynesia, Gibraltar, Guam, Montserrat, New Caledonia, Pitcairn, St. Helena, Tokelau, Turks and Caicos Islands, United States Virgin Islands and Western Sahara.
Falklands are definitely on the list of NSGTs and no mention anywhere of them not being “a people”.
@4: Seasonal residents? Which banana boat did you just get off? My wife and I, along with 3000 others, live here all year round. Have you visited? Do you know for sure?
Sep 18th, 2015 - 07:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And, in what way are we not a “people”? You might want to take your idiot point up with Ban Ki-Moon and the rest of the UN. The Resolution you so often spout about refers t a “population” and “inhabitants”. So, perhaps, you should take up this particular point with your president.
We have more right to be regarded as a people, than you and your population in S. America. We've been here longer than you, not that that makes any difference!
@ 9 FitzRoy
Sep 18th, 2015 - 07:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Everyone has been in S. America longer than the Argentinians.
They are the most recently implanted population on the continent.
When corbyn offers to make CFK a knight at his round table,
Sep 18th, 2015 - 07:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0then start to worry,
until then, don't worry.
9 - where were you born.
Sep 18th, 2015 - 08:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0thats right. along with all your colonist neighbors.
You can't dupe the world into thinking you're anything more than a colony of UK citizens. The UN didn't observe or legitimize your sham referendum.
So keen to keep the UK out of it when it suits, yet settled by the UK and backed up by the UK. Seems democracy is the thing you fear most.
@12 ....The UN didn't observe or legitimise the Scottish referendum....it that a sham too. The UN did how ever have something to say over the Ukraine/Crimea referendum which they declared not legal (not legitimate). Did they do that with the Falklands referendum if it was neither legal or legitimate? So you are talking out of your Arse. Congratulations, another redundant poster.
Sep 18th, 2015 - 09:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0UN 2065 . ....'and Peoples relating to the Falkland Islands' Why do the trolls and Tin hat man et al say it only mentions the population, it clearly states the “granting of Independence to colonial countries and peoples relating to the Falkland Islands”, the word peole is quite clear.
@12
Sep 18th, 2015 - 09:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0With your ignorance of international law it is certain that Argentina will never be a developed country.
@4 Vestage
Sep 18th, 2015 - 09:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“The people on the islands are not 'a people' by any international law, they're British citizens and as such any negotiation is between the UK and Argentina. ”
If the Falkland Islanders are not a country or 'a people' then presumably they'd not fall under the jurisdiction of the C24 (or to give it it's full name Special Committee on the Situation with Regard to the Implementation of the Declaration on the Granting of Independence to Colonial Countries and Peoples), so presumably we'll all be spared Humorous Hector's annual speech?
If, of course, they are 'a people' then they should feel (justifiably) entitled to expect that the C24 actually act on their behalf and respect their wishes rather than act as an accomplishment-free talking shop.
Vestige -12
Sep 18th, 2015 - 10:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0WE never asked the UN to organise or oversee our referendum. Nor have we ever asked then to officially publically accept it.
But at the same time the UN Gen secretary has never rejected the result either - has he?
We had another recognised independent organisation whom we asked to oversee and inspect how the referendum was carried out They all accepted it and signed it off a totally free and fair.
Why do you not ask the 2 Uruguayan Deputies who were here as part of the team?
I am a 5th generation born Islander - I am a FALKLAND ISLANDER first and foremost - but I am also proud to call myself British from my heritage, traditions and the Country that stands up for us and the basic International Principles of a people.
Rights of peoples.
16 Islander1
Sep 19th, 2015 - 12:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0“ I am a FALKLAND ISLANDER first and foremost - but I am also proud to call myself British”
Good for you, but we don't care if you are British, Chinese, Zimbabwean or Pakistani...we just want our islands back.
@12: A colony? Define “colony”.
Sep 19th, 2015 - 12:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0Do we have our own judiciary? Do we have our own laws? Do we have an economy? Do we export? We rely on Britain for defence, but were it not for the bullying we are subject to from just across the water, things would be much, much different. Until 1982 there were only 35 Royal Marines and a ship. (Mind you, even that small number managed to hold things up for the invaders).
Read your history books, get out more and get to know your subject before you start spouting your malvinist rubbish.
17 Marcos- Bad luck then - We Islanders have a simple message for you- The Islands are OUR Homeland - never were yours - never will be - Your Country had its chance in the 1970s to 1982 to win us over - they screwed it all up - tough.
Sep 19th, 2015 - 01:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0@17 Marquitos Alejandrito
Sep 19th, 2015 - 06:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0More juvenile drivel! You are just like a infant who has just thrown its toy out of his pram!
By the way, just when are you going to answer my question?
The guy was our local MP for years. I live in Islington.
Sep 19th, 2015 - 08:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0My Mother has met this guy. She was applying for a move due to another local resident giving her death threats and she was getting no help. She escalated the matter to her local MP. Who invited her to come to his office to talk about the situation.
Only to be told, by Jeremy Corbyn himself that as she was not a minority he would not be able to help her.
This guy is a train wreck waiting to happen.
@17 Mark
Sep 19th, 2015 - 09:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0...we just want our islands back.
You never had them or perhaps your cast iron case rests on November 1832 to January 1833, and April to June 1982.
A total of 6 months occupation vs 180 +years.
On your bike.
“The people on the islands are not 'a people' by any international law”
Sep 19th, 2015 - 09:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The term 'people, is not defined by any international law.
It is beyond me why you don't ignore the clown who calls herself “Vestige”.
Sep 20th, 2015 - 02:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Vestige” is always and only trolling and never accepts any arguments based on documentation. Cut “Vestige” out.
4 & 12 Voice, Vestige, Think et al
Sep 20th, 2015 - 06:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“The people on the islands are not 'a people' by any international law, ..” In your entirely unqualified and unsupported personal opinion, since you're unable to produce any viable citation. That “old chestnut” “The UN didn't observe or legitimize your sham referendum.” that you claim. But, are entirely unable to refute the contention that “silence in law is consent”, therefore the UN has given legal approval of the referendum.
To the intelligent and well informed right as argies,
Sep 20th, 2015 - 06:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0tell us mere mortals,
What do you call a country that threatens , abuses , intimidates , insults ,
A country that , without provocation attacks and invades an innocent unarmed and peaceful little country,
What do you call a county that wants to take, what is not theirs from a people that does not want to go,
what do you call a county that wants to force another country to surrender and do what its dictators tell it to do,
what do you call and country that that tells lies to the world and manipulates the innocents,
We call such a county like this==ARGENTINA,
a dictatorship who has imperialistic ambitions to control the whole of the south Atlantic for its Argentine EMPIRE,
what do you brainwashed call em....
http://en.mercopress.com/2015/09/18/falklands-government-congratulates-new-labor-leader-jeremy-corbyn#comment414648: You arrogant Limey SoB. How dare you attack the US like that. If it was not for the US your tin pot country would not even exist!
Sep 22nd, 2015 - 02:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0@27
Sep 22nd, 2015 - 05:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0voice, is that your Hepatia persona - playing silly buggers again??
Perhaps “Hepatia” is our old friend, the American pretender, “Sussie”??
#27
Sep 22nd, 2015 - 12:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Have you had a stroke or something? What the hell are you on about?
28
Sep 22nd, 2015 - 01:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0eh...?
No idea what that is all about....someone obviously touched a nerve....
30 Admit it, you have no idea about anything… .
Sep 22nd, 2015 - 01:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0/You arrogant Limey =
Sep 22nd, 2015 - 07:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hepatia , now you are American...lol
I remember when Argentine leftists were delighted that a fellow-socialist called Tony Blair won the UK elections.
Sep 22nd, 2015 - 11:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://en.mercopress.com/2015/09/18/falklands-government-congratulates-new-labor-leader-jeremy-corbyn#comment414822: I am today what I was yesterday. And what that is is none of your business you arrogant Limey!
Sep 23rd, 2015 - 03:25 am - Link - Report abuse 032 briton
Sep 23rd, 2015 - 04:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0hepatia
wee voice
stevie
vestige
et al...
's funny how they all try to give the impression they are American, or Scottish, RN or whatever, to imply credibility, but they never tie themselves to a national identity... except “Stevie” of course, he changes personal details every 2 minutes
They are but day dreamers.
Sep 23rd, 2015 - 06:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0to our Argie friends:
Sep 24th, 2015 - 02:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0please visit http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-34335103 and then come back and remind us as to why you have the gall to pretend that you are a civilized nation
UKIP on TV today,
Sep 25th, 2015 - 07:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0get Britain out,
and soddy offy to corbyn the turn coat.
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