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Argentina: Double celebration for Kirchnerism, in Chaco and Tucuman provinces
Double victory for Cristina Fernandez and the 'Kirchnerite' model: her candidates won the governorship in the northern province of Chaco and the Tucuman Supreme Court validated the result which confirmed that former Healthcare minister Juan Manzur last 23 August was the clear winner and the next governor of the province. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesTold you so...the ruling in Tucumán was baseless, a travesty of justice. Things coming back to normal now.
Sep 22nd, 2015 - 06:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0Another resounding victory in Chaco as well. Capitanich wins! This time, significant police resources were deployed to avoid any repetition of the Tucumán incidents.
Even Clarín has published an almost fair article about the election in Chaco--(even if I had to find the story by doing a search).
Anyway, these are great news, especially considering that in both provinces the Kircherism faced an united opposition front. A good preview of the October presidential elections.
Now, many will speak about dumb electors. That would be a mistake. In this case, the Kirchnerism reaps what it sow. Electors recognize social inclusion when they see it. Period.
Arriba Argentina!
@1
Sep 22nd, 2015 - 07:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0No it just proves the point that someone made earlier that the judiciary are in Kirchners pocket. How can you announce a win when clearly some ballot boxes ( 40 ) were burnt? Argentina the creater of the unknown.
When you bribe the poor on the scale that CFKs administration has. When you eliminate people who accuse you of rank corruption. Its no wonder that you are somewhat popular. What ordinary Argentinians are missing out on is a society that makes the most of its massive natural resources and delivers a decent honest standard of living for all free of corruption and nepotism. It amazes me that idiots like Think, Voice, Axel and Reekie support the corrupt and incompetent Kirchners who are holding back a potentially rich country which is sliding bit by bit into the third world. Its a disease that is afflicting much of South America.
Sep 22nd, 2015 - 11:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0You get the government you deserve. Hope they don't come screaming for help after the fact. You are right Voice. It is a sad state of affairs.
Sep 22nd, 2015 - 11:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0@1
Sep 22nd, 2015 - 02:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I know that you, fascist, won't never answer any of my post basically becuase you “own the thruth”. Either in Tucuman or in Chaco there were lots of cheats in the election. In addtion, the Supreme Court of Tucuman accepted the results of the election but the opposition parties will go to the National Supreme Court. I don't want to read your posts crying for any National Supreme Court decision.
In addition, I would like to point out something that's is, now, more evident than never. Those who are the “new” peronists governors are people like: Manzur, Capitanich, Urtubey, Conservative fascist people with nothing in common with “leftist” ideas that you, Enriuqe, have always defended.
We can add Anibal “La Morsa” Fernandez, Denial Scioli, Delfina Rossi, Mariano Recalde...all rich people quite conservative with fascist ideology.
In addtion, Daniel Scioli promissed a “dollar rain” during his presidency...it seems that peronism have lost the “cultural battle” against the dollar !!!!
Peronism is the perfect dictatorship method of pretending to be a freely elected democracy and yet truly run as the Mafia. Argentina remains a major example of how not to run a country.
Sep 22nd, 2015 - 03:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@6
Sep 22nd, 2015 - 04:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I totally agree with you.
Let me add something that Enrique Massot might ignore. It is that General Juan Domingo Peron, being president, decorated Augusto Pinothet (being president of Chile) with the highest award of Argentina: “La Orden del Livertador General San Matrin” in year 1974. What a pair of democrats !!!!
The K-fascists “won” in two provinces where the citizens don`t have shoes and the judiciary is among the most corrupt in the World. These elections are as valid as a U$S 200 bill.
Sep 22nd, 2015 - 05:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@1 Reekie
Sep 22nd, 2015 - 06:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You have earned yourself a spot in the “Brasshole - Axhole - Terence” coalition. You should be proud of yourself. You fit in nicely after 'brasshole', so you can all be known by the acronym “BRAT”.....Congratulations !
@1 Time for you to go home and enjoy your utopian dream in Argentina, isn't it? Absolutely nothing to stop you.
Sep 22nd, 2015 - 07:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 9 Jack Bauer
Sep 22nd, 2015 - 07:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think you are definitely over promoting The Brainless One!
:o)
Thanks! I thoroughly enjoyed the outpouring of attention.
Sep 22nd, 2015 - 07:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Will just say something about The Voice's comment @ 3.
1. “When you bribe the poor on the scale that CFKs administration has.”
What you call “bribing the poor” is in fact, Kirchnerist social inclusion policies, which consist of income re-distribution benefitting the least affluent. You may call it “bribing” but the poor know the difference. That is why they are voting for Kirchnerism again.
2. When you eliminate people who accuse you of rank corruption.“
Please provide names of the ”eliminated.”
@12 It is bribing the poor. We had a maid that used to take time off when her welfare check came in. Her husband was a deadbeat that used to abuse her and take a cut of her earned income in additional to the welfare. He lost his life because he decided to drive recklessly in the rain. At least she had a will to work to a degree. The majority of the recipients of welfare are worse.
Sep 22nd, 2015 - 07:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There was a pedophile in a neighborhood on the outskirts of town. Everyone knew who he was. Some of the parents used to sell their children to him for a few hundred pesos.
Hard work cultivates a sense of appreciation and ownership for everything one has. If you remove that incentive by giving people money so they “don't have to work”, they will end up being useless, and often morally depraved.
Proverbs 16:27 says “Idle hands are the devil’s workshop” and these are perfect examples of that. I am not an overly religious person, but it makes a lot of sense.
@10
Sep 22nd, 2015 - 08:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He's a real coward and a scumbag, isn't he? The children who are living under a tree outside my office here in Buenos Aires send their greetings.
@11 ChrisR
Sep 22nd, 2015 - 10:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Perhaps. But you need to give merit where it's deserved....after all, they all excel in one thing : stupidity. Reekie's comments @12, prove just that.
@12
Sep 23rd, 2015 - 12:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0“What you call “bribing the poor” is in fact, Kirchnerist social inclusion policies” This is quite simple a false statemente. There are plenty of material proof of people selling their votes for AR$ 500.- (around 40 U$D).
In addition giving less than U$D 100 per month per person that allow people to live without working during two weeks cannot be considered “social inclusion policies.”
If poor people have no acces to secular and free education, no medical service, no drinking water, not a decent home, no food...how is that you can consider they they are being included?.....just for receiving less than U$D 100 per month?
That's quite clear bribery !!
In addition, people are not voting for Kircherism...they are voting for peronism...Scioli was invited to be part of the peronist party by Carlos Menem (today's kirchenrist senatos).
@16 pgerman
Sep 23rd, 2015 - 01:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Plenty of material proof of people selling their votes...”
Come on, German, be serious! The two judges who “annulled” the Tucuman election would've LOVED to have proof of such thing occurring in significant numbers. They didn't, and that is why five upper judges unanimously quashed their ruling.
Then you fuss about whether the money poor people get is enough, etc. etc.
I could agree with you that help is not enough and more is needed to help people get out of the cycle of poverty.
But you know what? Kirchnerism has done something. Those before them did nothing. And people appreciate it. That is why a marketer like Maurico Macri cannot win.
And finally, your ramblings about Kirchnerism vs. Peronism...por favor! Boring.
@17 Be serious?
Sep 23rd, 2015 - 12:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You can find by yourself in the media lots of tapes of people selling and traidng thir votes in Chaco, Tucuman and Formosa. You can see them with your own eyes !!
In addtion, would you consider people such as Urtubey, Allperovich, Manzur, Anibal “La Morsa” Fernandez, etc people with “new ideas”?....be serious !!! Do you consider them leftist revolutionary people?
@18
Sep 23rd, 2015 - 12:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are wasting your time. This guy isn't interested in the truth - likely has he ever been. As long as his favorite ideology is in place he simply doesn't care whether children starve or not.
@17 Reekie
Sep 23rd, 2015 - 11:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Have you ever stopped to consider the possibility that the two judges who 'annulled' the election , might have based themselves on the facts, and that the judges from the higher court were paid off to overturn the decision ??
It is pretty clear that both courts can't be right.....but the fact that ballot boxes were burned , and that creative vote counting took place, will not go away just because CFK wants it to. This is not about all the 'good' you might believe CFK has done, and therefore think she is entitled to break the Law and get away with it, it is about a very suspicious provincial election. No more, no less.
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