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Scioli continues ahead in polls despite having missed the presidential debate

Wednesday, October 7th 2015 - 06:41 UTC
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Argentine incumbent candidate absence from Sunday's presidential debate has not altered the electoral landscape for next 25 October, according to the latest public opinion polls released in Buenos Aires. On Sunday night Daniel Scioli did not show up to the debate with all presidential contenders, particularly Mauricio Macri and Sergio Massa, the two closest challengers. Read full article


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  • Englander

    Something strange going on in the British sector of the South Atlantic.
    Humpback drill is either a duster or a huge and I mean huge oil find.
    Hope Royal Navy have a few subs nearby in case the Argies get over excited again.

    Oct 07th, 2015 - 07:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • falklandlad

    @1 what the hell has that comment got to do with the article? Absolutely nothing I would contend.
    Best if you concede Scioli is a chicken who doesnt like the heat emanating from the election kitchen, and the most honourable and decent thing he can now do is step back and exit out of the kitchen.
    Some decency might then begin to prevail in the horrid personalisation of Arg politics.

    Oct 07th, 2015 - 10:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Mendoza Canadian

    Some decency???...did you see la cretina dancing like a fool at cadena #42?

    Oct 07th, 2015 - 11:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Englander

    Not interested in Argy politics apart from where it impacts on Falkland Island oil industry. They are all disgusting fascists, trying to control what people say and think.

    Oct 07th, 2015 - 11:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • pgerman

    Enrique Massot, good morning !!!

    This post will be of your interest:

    It seems that “El Fondo” is coming back to Argentina !!!...good news after all !!!

    Oct 07th, 2015 - 12:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Tarquin Fin


    Which one is the “good news”? Return to the IMF or finding out that Scioli does have an economic advisor?

    It all still looks grim to me.

    Oct 07th, 2015 - 05:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ernest shackleton

    Regardless of economic policy, etc, etc, whichever candidate makes the most aggressive noises against the “English pirates” occupying “Puerto Argentino” will win. That probably means Scioli - its a no-brainer.

    Oct 07th, 2015 - 11:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Enrique Massot

    #5 pgerman
    Ah German, German!
    Come back to the IMF?
    That, apparently, is very good news for you. Perhaps you don't remember or did not see how Argentina was doing when its politicians went, hat in hand, beg the IMF for an extension.
    I see Blajer is not proposing to borrow from the IMF...but we'll see how it goes.
    In the meantime, the popular opinion is backing Daniel Scioli even if he missed the candidates' debate.
    I believe he was right in not attending and letting Massa and Macri unsuccessfully attempt to appear presidentiables.

    Oct 08th, 2015 - 02:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • pgerman


    I might happen that having millions of argentine people isolated and without any public or private ingvestment is good for you. Who know the way you make your living after all??

    By the way the argentine Central Bank is totally empty so Argentina will have to get some funds to regularized the national reserves. Who is going to lend millions of U$D to Argentina?...otherwise the devaluation would have to be even worse than the devaluation made by CFK presidency. Each dollar might end costing 22, 23 or even more pesos.

    Of course that it was good for Scioli not attending the devate...he prefers to hide his opinions...he cannot make them public !!...but it was bad for the argentine public opinion. And it was also bad for democracy. But you don't care about that....

    Oct 08th, 2015 - 02:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Enrique Massot

    #9 pgerman
    Como on German. “Millions of argentine people isolated?”
    Do you know a thing about poverty in Argentina? I suspect not much.
    And you suggest borrowing from outside is the solution for those “isolated” millions?
    I remind you that previous massive borrowings benefited only large corporations and never the poor (a large part of the debt contracted by private local companies during Videla in the 1970s was assumed by the state). Profiteers also were outside corporations, financial institutions and their local associates.
    Borrowing will not magically solve Argentina's problems. Prudent borrowing that strengthens local business opportunities, on the other hand, may play a role. Reducing poverty, improving health and multiplying educational opportunities will create a strong domestic economy, reducing dependence on exports.
    And don't worry much about the Central Bank reserves. The opposition and their economic gurus and Moody's have all been anticipating catastrophe for several years now.

    Oct 08th, 2015 - 04:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • pgerman


    Are you old enough as to discuss topics without acting as a boy? Are you?

    From where is going to get funding the country if the Government cannot take money from private or multinational institutions? Just printing money?

    In addtion, don't came to me with “don't worry much about the Central Bank reserves”. I WORK with the official data of the argentine Central Bank so I know quite well the current situation of the reserves, and other accounts, of it.
    I don't need to read it in the media.

    As regards poverty I travel regularly to Argentina, every three months, so I know exactly the current situation of my country, it is quite evident in the strrets compared to Canada,....

    Oct 08th, 2015 - 06:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • axel arg

    In just 2 months, Cristina Elizabeth Fernandez de Kirchner will be one more ex president of our young democracy, she will have ruled the nation for 2 periods, and she will have completed a cicle of 12 years, 6 months and 15 days, which are the best years of Argentina in the last 5 decades.
    I have always said that after the fallen of Arturo Illia, who was our last great president, and who was broken down by a military coup d'etat in 1966, after rulling the nation for almost 3 years, Argentina started a slow but notorious decline, leaded in different moments by the last dictatorship, Menem and De La Rua.
    Raul Alfonsin was also a great president, but he inherited a too weak economic situation, and he couldn't solve the problem, but it would be absolutly unfair to consider him as a neoliberal.
    In the context of the menemist Argentina, unemployment always continued to increase, that's why the legacy of post menemism in 1999 was a country with a very low inflation, but with a too large number of unemployed people, in fact, many of them made long queues in the embasies to leave Argentina, because of the lack of opportunities.
    Whoever wins the elections in 2 weeks, the new president will find a country with many pendent debts in social terms, like a high unequality, poverty, institutional violence, insecurity, etc, but the leader will find also a citizenship who has already empowered of all the achievements that workers could get in all these years of kirchnerism, which were unthinkable 12 years ago and in the 90's, in fact, even conservatives, who don't agree in asbolut in them, make campaign saying that they are disposed to keep them, that's the reason why i often say that they are suffering a hard cultural defeat. It's evident that Argentina won't never be the same country, after these long and interesting 12 years.

    Oct 11th, 2015 - 04:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Mendoza Canadian

    There is a newly coined word:
    A system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers.

    Oct 11th, 2015 - 07:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Enrique Massot

    #12 axel arg
    ”...the new president will find...high unequality, poverty, institutional violence, insecurity (but) also a citizenship who has already empowered of all the achievements that workers could get in all these years of kirchnerism.“
    Axel has provided us with a well-balanced analysis of today's reality in Argentina, that is, much remains to be done but much has already been accomplished in the last decade.
    Axel presents the ”glass-half-full“ vision. Those who aspire to turn back the clock will instead argue that the same glass is just ”half empty.”
    No matter what, as Axel pointed out, those who want a return to the 1990s will have a hard task before them, thanks to the people's empowerment of the last decade.
    Argentina won't be the same country after these interesting 12 years, Axel said.
    I agree.

    Oct 11th, 2015 - 09:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • axel arg

    ENRIQUE (14).
    Thank you for your words. It's evident that some people haven't understood yet that beyond how citizens vote in two weeks, nobody is disposed to lose what they got in all these years, that's why, if they didn't have such a mediocre mentality, they wouldn't underestimate all those voters who are pro kirchnerist.

    Oct 12th, 2015 - 01:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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