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Falklands' salvage of La Sanmartiniana, triggered minor air incident, reports Argentine media

Monday, October 19th 2015 - 06:40 UTC
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The loss of the Argentine yacht La Sanmartiniana which was abandoned and left adrift in the South Atlantic, but is currently moored in the Falklands as part of a salvage effort, led to a minor air incident according to Clarin when an RAF Typhoon from MPA warned a private search plane it was approaching Falkland Islands jurisdiction. Read full article

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  • Troy Tempest

    Routine story, routine events - Argentine La Campora crew abandon perfectly good vessel, Arg realizes the cowardly blunder, serviceable civilian aircraft are dispatched to locate it and prevent a humiliating propaganda coup from landing in the laps of the Islanders, Typhoon warns off unidentified foreign aircraft before it trespasses into Falkland airspace ...

    Argentina loses a vessel and Argentina loses face, too :-)

    Oct 19th, 2015 - 07:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • gordo1

    Can it be claimed for the HM Dockyard Museum in Portsmouth? It would be an interesting addition to the historical vessels already being displayed in the home of the Royal Navy.

    It could be displayed as “More b------t from Argentina”!

    Oct 19th, 2015 - 08:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britworker

    It does however demonstrate that a stupid political stunt can have unforeseen ramifications. Not sure what would happened if the Argentine search plan had entered our air space.

    Oct 19th, 2015 - 08:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @2. Far better proposition. Ram a couple of steel girders vertically through the hull. Plant the girders in concrete on the Falklands waterfront. Perhaps a little plaque indicating what happens when you try to invade British territorial waters. Maybe spain would also take notice.
    @3. Force down or shoot down? I'm in favour of shoot down.

    Oct 19th, 2015 - 09:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    “Any person who wishes to claim ownership of the above detailed vessel may do so by writing to: Receiver of Wreck; Byron House, 3 ‘H’ Jones Road; Stanley, Falkland Islands, providing full details of their claim within one year from the date of this notice, 16th October 2015.”

    So Maximo, you are wasting your time if you write to London.

    Let's see if there is a deafening silence from the owners.............

    Oct 19th, 2015 - 10:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • SebaSvtz

    These d-bags think that everything works like the corrupted politics were they like to play. They believe that people out there follow their stupid rules. They are convinced that they can go around acting like the big bosses they imagine they are.

    They could have caused a serious incident. They should be punished. No more child-play for them.

    And BTW ... a two-mast ship? a plane? where do they get all that stuff from?

    Oct 19th, 2015 - 10:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Swede

    It will be very interesting to se how the owners of this yacht will react now.
    In order to get it back I presume they have to go to the F.I. They must present their passports and get them stamped, thus admitting this is not a “domestic” destination. All fees and charges must of course be payed in £s and not in pesos. And they have to behave themselves, not making any “stunts”. Can they manage to do that or will they just give up and start talking about “piracy”?

    Oct 19th, 2015 - 11:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islander1

    Had the silly arses in Tierra Del Fuego- TOLD- Falklands Maritime Authorities about the vessel in the first place - none of this need have happened - FI could have assisted in the original search by air and once located the vessel could have been towed to an Argentine port and all sorted.
    But with their pathetic attitude of not talking to us - they get their just results.

    Now its crystal clear- get in touch - or in 12 months time the vessel will almost certainly be taken out to see and scuttled.

    Oct 19th, 2015 - 12:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    Can it be sold?
    Would anyone want it?

    Oct 19th, 2015 - 12:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    How life has changed for the better.

    1960s-Argy demonstration flights got through, (DC6 etc).

    A few decades later=a Eurofighter checks you out.

    Now they can't even get a protest yacht through!

    In ten years time, an unsuccessful attempt astride a tree trunk or inflatable beach dingy?

    Oct 19th, 2015 - 03:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    @8 Islander1

    My thoughts exactly. If they had cooperated with the Falkland Islands Government they'd have their ship back now without creating any kind of air incidents 'minor' or otherwise.

    But they can't possibly do that. Their 'pride' won't allow it. What the Argentines have to be proud about is anyone's guess, but they seem to have forgotten the old maxim “Pride goes before a fall.”

    But they Argentine government (whether this one or the next makes little difference) will, no doubt, be minting out 'medals' to the 'brave' sailors who couldn't even navigate 400 odd miles in the South Atlantic to the Falkland Islands.

    Anyway, it's always good to see Argentina humiliate itself. I mean has any other country in the world humiliated itself so often before?

    Oct 19th, 2015 - 03:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    I reckon the pilot and his passengers (if any) of the plane challenged by the Typhoon shit themselves there and then purely in solidarity with the argie cretins who did it in the Post Office during the Falklands War.

    I wonder if they will be in line for a 'we lost the war Malvinas Veterans medal' each. I bet they are, TMBOA gives one to all the losers including the alcoholic UYU Defence Minister who was in prison at the time but 'would have fought if he wasn't'. No Money Pepe's bestist mate at that.

    You just have to laugh at these argies and The Broad Fraud Tupas Brigade.

    Oct 19th, 2015 - 03:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • pgerman

    @11

    Let me correct you. This minor incident was not triggered by “regular” argentine people but for a buch of ridiculous peronist fascists who are the laughingstock of all the poeple that know someting about sailing. You might check this in facebook....

    From my point of view I would love to see these stupid guys being detained by FI authorities to see if they are “so bad ” as they like to show off with political protection in argentine territory.

    On the other sidek, it is much better to be humilliated after being defeated in the battle field than ejoying a fake freedom borrowed by someone that, in the propper moment, will sell you just for money.

    In addition, I was wondering where the peronists are in this forum now? They seem to be dissapeared...Axel ???...Enrique Massot ????...they are vanished.

    Oct 19th, 2015 - 05:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Voice

    At the bottom of the South Atlantic {hopefully)!

    Oct 19th, 2015 - 07:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    @13 german

    I don't need to be corrected. What incident?

    You mean the incident where a bunch of inexperience La Campora idiots abandoned their vessel? Or the incident where another bunch of Argentine idiots thought that they could fly through Falkland Islands airspace without permission?

    As I stated, they would've had their ship back by now if they'd've contacted the Falkland Islands Government for help.

    But they won't because they have a sense of misplaced pride which has now cost the Argentine taxpayer dear. And I guarantee that it was the Argentine taxpayer that paid for the yacht, and for the 'air search'.

    It must be so FRUSTRATING for you, pgerman, to know that your government is throwing away the taxpayers money with nothing to show for it, whereas the UK taxpayer is getting a bargain with the exceptionally visible result of the Falklands remaining free of the Argentine jackboot.

    Oh, but I forgot, you don't pay tax in Argentina, do you pgerman? You worry about the 'poor' British taxpayer having to fork out a less than a whole £ per year to defend the Falklands, yet you never worry about the 'poverty' ridden Argentine taxpayer, who is constantly ripped off by the government and has NOTHING to show for it, except poverty, inflation, stagflation, and children starving to death.

    Maybe you should return to Argentina and start paying tax. Maybe you can turn the tide so children don't have to starve to death in a country that used to be considered on of the world's biggest food producers.

    Oct 19th, 2015 - 07:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    come come people,
    CFK is getting used to having ships/boats detained by now.

    im surprised she has not complained to the UN ,
    and the rest of the world abt British islander aggression...

    just saying like.

    Oct 19th, 2015 - 07:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    1 Troy Tempest

    ”Argentina loses a vessel and Argentina loses face, too :-)“

    You could be onto something here Troy.

    Surely to underline the humiliation and the fact that argentina has lost a vessel, should the new owners of ”La Sanmartiniana“ take it on a whirlwind South American tour? the Islanders could hang placards over the rails saying things like :-

    ”La Campora take note, We now own your boat“

    and

    ”He's fat, he's funny, he's stolen all your money, He's Maximo, He's Maximo”

    Should be a great tour, I bet it will generate loads of interest.

    Oct 19th, 2015 - 09:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    17

    PMSL

    HA HA HA .... !!!!!

    Oct 20th, 2015 - 02:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • downunder

    “....when an RAF Typhoon from MPA warned a private search plane it was approaching Falkland Islands jurisdiction.”

    No need for Argentina to search, the yacht has been found and rescued!

    But its good to see that the RAF boys are on the job.

    Oct 20th, 2015 - 06:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Room101

    Both sides should stop playing silly buggers: return the yacht and forget it.

    Oct 20th, 2015 - 04:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    @20
    Yes I agree, just pay for the salvage and you can have your boat back once ownership has been proved.

    Oct 20th, 2015 - 05:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Frank

    @20 Bollocks!!

    Both the crews and the owners of the two ships involved - a kiwi fishing boat ( San xxx ) is shown towing her in some pics - have a valid salvage claim.

    Probably on the high side of 50% of her value so a bit more than beer money...

    If the diegos don't come and claim her and pay what is due then she can be sold in 12 months time and the salvors paid out of the proceeds...simples...

    Oct 20th, 2015 - 08:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    Have to agree with Frank.
    The RGs shouldn't start what they can't finish.
    They had malice in their hearts, so now they can pay for it.
    Sell it & we'll keep the money.

    Oct 20th, 2015 - 09:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Frank

    She would probably sell quite readily in the FI....the new owners could rename her 'Black Pig II'

    Oct 20th, 2015 - 10:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Perhaps the boat, with its argy flag flying from it, be towed out to sea, and set alight.

    Oct 21st, 2015 - 10:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Audi Consilium

    9 lsolde (#) - Give it to the Sea Scouts / Sea Cadets if there are any groups on the Islands.

    Oct 22nd, 2015 - 07:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • PepperJohn

    keep the boat, the sailors. argentina is much more than the campora and the claim is valid: 2065 is alive and kicking, uk will have to sit with argentina. does not matter what you say: the matter is not settled. https://factsandfictionsofmalvinasislands.wordpress.com/2015/09/29/fact-no-5-neither-the-un-nor-any-other-international-organizations-recognized-the-so-called-referendum/

    Oct 23rd, 2015 - 04:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marti Llazo

    @26 -- I am not sure that a group such as the Sea Scouts or other responsible organisation would consider taking over the vessel. After all, it has been detestably fouled by the earlier presence aboard of Argentines.

    Oct 23rd, 2015 - 04:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @27 PJ,
    The matter is closed.
    We are satisfied & don't care if you are not.
    That is your problem.
    Next.

    Oct 23rd, 2015 - 08:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    27 pj

    Ha haha ... so funny... you fucked up - Lol
    ... stupid socialist propagandist children..Lol...!!!

    Oct 24th, 2015 - 06:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    30 Troy Tempest

    “Ha haha ... so funny... you fucked up - Lol”

    PepperJohn does keep the one liners coming doesn't he? My favourite is the one:-

    “2065 is alive and kicking, uk will have to sit with argentina.”

    That really did make me laugh!!

    Oct 25th, 2015 - 08:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @31

    Hi there TooOld,

    Good to 'see' you.

    “That really did make me laugh!!”

    Yes... LMFAO !!

    Oct 26th, 2015 - 01:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    The UK should sit ON Argentina………heavily.

    Oct 26th, 2015 - 10:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marti Llazo

    The quaint silliness and inveterate incompetence of the sudacas can always be counted on to provide the greatest degree of entertainment.

    Oct 26th, 2015 - 02:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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