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Night of gun and bombs attacks in Paris: at least 150 people killed
France has declared a national state of emergency and tightened borders after at least 150 people were killed in a night of gun and bomb attacks in Paris. Eighty people were reported killed after gunmen burst into the Bataclan concert hall and took dozens hostage. The siege ended when security forces stormed the building. Read full article
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Nov 14th, 2015 - 09:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0Who goes to war have to be prepared for war. But it seems that the Franks never gave importance to this.
Nov 14th, 2015 - 10:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0Or do you think that a modern war is limited to a certain territory?
Men what Westerners call of terrorists, Islam calls soldiers.
Brarsehole/Nostril Shut up! And thankyou for confirming that you live in Europe. We know that you come from a race of frightened pussies. If you can think of something original to say say it. Otherwise keep your pathetic teenage ramblings for the walls of your cell.
Nov 14th, 2015 - 10:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0#2
Nov 14th, 2015 - 10:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0You assume that ALL Muslims support terrorism. They are just as likely--in fact MORE likely - to be victims of the crazed ideology oF IS.
Anyway, what would you know about anything.
Very interesting. When thousands and thousands of civilians are killed by the West in the Gaza Strip, Iraq, Afeghanistão (many of them children) the Western media is total silence.
Nov 14th, 2015 - 11:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0When a hundred Westerners (mostly tourists) die in a military attack by Muslims, there is a widespread revolt that same West murderer.
You are not worth what the cat buried in the sand!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAox6KWrEKs&list=FLmXPTu1f8AdGlizWNiASx2A&index=2
Brarsole/Toby. Shut up! You continually exhibit your illness. You suffer from the same warped mind that afflicts the pathetic cowardly murderers that conducted this outrage. Get treatment before you suffer the same fate as them.
Nov 14th, 2015 - 11:13 am - Link - Report abuse 05 Brasileiro
Nov 14th, 2015 - 11:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0STFU you clueless demented tosspot.
As for the supposed silence of western media about Gaza. Iraq and Afghanistan; nothing could be further from the truth, and all you are doing is proving that you don't read any of that media and instead resort to your usual propagandist RT drivel.
@2. Fine. We can remember this and your words. It's fine to turn up anywhere and start shooting.
Nov 14th, 2015 - 11:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0@5. Perhaps you'll notice that “Western” armed forces attempt to limit civilian casualties, whilst this was a deliberate attack on civilians. I hope that, amongst others, Israelis respond appropriately. Everyone knows that the entire population of that Gaza Strip you mention are militant jihadi terrorists. I trust that there will be no more stupid condemnation of Israel and that Israel will look to annihilate Gaza the next time there is cause for an attack. Time and again, so-called “palestinians” are seen to be at the centre of these cowardly attacks. Perhaps, when there are none of them left, others will get the idea that, when pushed far enough, no-one is more vicious than the West. The sort of actions that have taken place in Paris, together with your stupid words, are most likely to ensure that there will be no mercy.
What about the Hospital “Doctors Without Borders” annihilated by the West?
Nov 14th, 2015 - 12:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are the real terrorists and as you exist the world will not have peace.
Western Assassins!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rALVgdoMHk&index=25&list=FLmXPTu1f8AdGlizWNiASx2A
Brasileiro
Nov 14th, 2015 - 12:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0STFU you clueless demented tosspot.
Médecins Sans Frontières / Doctors Without Borders IS a western NGO and Nobel Peace Prize laureate (not just one hospital as your clueless twaddle would have us believe)
Crawl back under your stone, you vile warmongering pervert.
Can we ignore Brasileiro? He is bonkers with the mental age of a toddler and will say anything to get attention.
Nov 14th, 2015 - 12:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am in France at the moment, though not in Paris, and the grieving is palpable amongst the French. We all grieve with them.
Hopefully the world can unite at the meeting in Turkey this week and put together a serious plan to annihilate these nutters.
Nov 14th, 2015 - 12:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I just spoke with a good friend from Sweden and he is moving to the US or another safe country, “running for his families life” as he put it.
They are letting in 2000 immigrants per day with no identification if they say they are from Syria. 90% are males. Within 3-4 years he will be a minority in his own country.
The real irony of it is that anyone with Brasileiro's views would be right at the top of Islamic State's list of enemies, because they abhor socialism, democracy, women with a voice (and those who defend the rights of women), gays, Christians, Jews, Atheists, anyone who isn't a Muslim .. in fact anyone who isn't a radical Sunni Islamist (in other words, they even hate and declare fatwa against the Shia majorities of Gaza, Hezbollah, Iran, Iraq and Pakistan) and have even very publicly threatened his own precious Cristina Fernández de Kirchner, Dilma Rousseff and Nicolás Maduro.
Nov 14th, 2015 - 12:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He is so mentally ill hat he sits there cheering a massacre committed by those who would massacre him at the first possible opportunity.
Brasileiro
Nov 14th, 2015 - 01:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Truth is that countries such as your own will never really be in danger of terrorist attacks because they offer no threat.
Countries such as Brazil, and indeed many other developing countries, have no real power.
They hold no hard power to affect the ideals of terrorists and groups such as Al Qaeda and Daesh so they do not worry and fear what you could do to them now or in the future.
But more importantly, countries such as Brazil hold so soft power either. There is nothing about your country that scares them because there is nothing about your country that attracts people. The ideals of your government or people is not anathema to the intolerant and evil. Neither is the openness or freedom of your culture. You do not attract people from around the globe and nor does the allure of your culture, people and society resonate around the globe to the very people that these terrorists need to power them.
Brazil will not suffer terrorist attacks on the scale that has been witnessed by the U.S., U.K., France or Australia because it simply doesn't register as important enough to warrant attention.
The very fact that your country isn't seen as a current enemy to people such as this is more disgusting than you ignorant comments. You and your country stand for nothing. You ride for free and hide cowardly behind others that do the work for you. If you think that terrorists will continue to ignore Brazil if they are successful against the countries that are actually fighting them both physically and in ideas then you are not only ignorant but deluded. People that preach hate and blind obedience to their warped ideas of intolerance and evil will not let even the cowards and lazy countries such as Brazil remain unaffected.
You should be on your knees thanking the countries doing the hard work and losing lives so that you can continue to live in your bubble of stupidity.
As least we in the west are dying for ideals and not living because others pay the price
This worries me because without a doubt we are going to have to deal with this in the UK very soon and the structure of people that keep us safe is being dismantled by our government at a colossal rate to pay back the deficit that was run up by London bankers.
Nov 14th, 2015 - 01:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There are 6000 armed officers in the entire UK. Paris has access to 120,000. We are not safe.
TWIMC
Nov 14th, 2015 - 02:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As my late genetic connational, Henning Mankell, so concisely said at Davos...:
“They are coming here because you were there.”
Do you get his drift???
Think about it...
Then we have a million terrorists refugees in Dresden.
Nov 14th, 2015 - 02:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0West wants peace or war?
We, Brazilians, we do not have this problem because we are pacifists by nature. We destroy another country in another time, and the nightmare is too large to this day.
The Islamist problem has been brought about by craven politicians who have failed to understand the real threat that this damnable 'religion' presents to westerners. This is compounded by the people themselves, many of whom do not accept that the Quran and all the so called 'interpretations' written by 'Mullahs' is how these terrorists live. To kill kafirs, as none believers are called, is to 'do god's work' and if the murderers themselves are killed they are considered 'martyrs' who go to 'paradise' and have so many virgins for their amusement.
Nov 14th, 2015 - 02:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This has been shown on MercoPress with many, otherwise intelligent people, failing to face up to the many human right problems, especially with women and the status of the children born within this medieval religion as 'not true', 'that cannot be the case', etc. Well, it is true as far as the Islamists are concerned. Grow up and open your mind.
But now we see results of these denials to face reality and it will spread throughout Europe.
Many of our people will suffer death and injury and apologists like Corbyn will demand that the perpetrators MUST be arrested and tried in a UK Court instead of being shot on sight if they are carrying a weapon.
I personally think it is too late for Britain and the people themselves have been left defenceless as a result of the effects of BLiar's 'multiculturism'.
Don't rely on the police, they are useless and the armed ones unable to hit anything beyond 100M unless they are sniper trained and not many are.
I have no idea how this will work out in the end, there are too many 'British' Muslims that the law defends the same as the indigenous people, they cannot be sent back to where they came from, they were born in the UK.
It now seems that 'Jihadi John' who was (hopefully) killed recently has a baby daughter in Syria, she will be entitled to enter the UK in her own right. Great, eh?
Religion, who needs it?
@17 Nostril, shut up! The trouble with lunatics like yourself is that you just dont realise what you are saying. Get back in your cell and take your meds.
Nov 14th, 2015 - 02:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 016 Think
Nov 14th, 2015 - 02:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 01: stop trying to claim the Scandinavian heritage you don't have
2: it was Ambalavaner Sivanandan who coined the phrase “They are coming here because you were there”, in 'When Memory Dies' in 1997. Mankell was just being his usual habitual cheap plagiarist when he used the phrase at Davos in 2013.
(20) Kære, søde lillebror....
Nov 14th, 2015 - 03:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If your Scandinavian heritage goes back half as long as mine..., the chances of us being blood related are worryingly big...
The problem that Cameron - and most other European “leaders” - faces is that he (and they) have backed themselves into a corner by repeatedly mouthing the blatant lie that “Islam is a peaceful religion”. Despite what many here say Cameron is not a stupid man, he is a scared man. He cannot suddenly turn around and say he was wrong because he would lose face. And he certainly cannot say the sort of things that we are saying here because if he were to do so all hell would break loose and the muslims would retaliate with massive bombing and terror attacks far worse than what we have already seen.
Nov 14th, 2015 - 03:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0One way to divert the pressure - and to shift the onus from our “leaders” - would be to have a totally impartial investigation into Islam - something like a Royal Commission - to decide (1) is Islam compatible with Western democracy? (2) is Islam in the public interest of the native European majority?. Finally, (3) if the findings were negative (as it logically should be) - should Islam be totally banned or just restricted and controlled?
In order to be genuinely impartial such an investigation would have to invite submissions not just from the usual hand-wringing liberal apologists and taqqiya-spouting “moderate muslims” - but also from the likes of people who the media have dismissed and demonised as “Islamophobes” - Geert Wilders, Robert Spencer, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Bridgitte Gabriel, Pamela Geller, Douglas Murray, etc., and others who have studied the “Religion of Peace” and found it to actually be a “Religion of Hatred and Violence”
Of course, if the inquiry were genuinely impartial - and making it so would be the biggest stumbling block - it is obvious that it would find against Islam. Such an announcement would then make it much easier for our leaders to crack down on Islam in a big way - either making it illegal or (as I have previously suggested) restricting its practice to a few enclaves (where muslims are already a majority or near majority) on the basis that it was
Think, we are are all distantly related to primaeval things but you are obviously more closely related, it exudes from you. Hissing Sid springs to mind. You obviously dont share our disgust at yesterdays events and have no compassion for the victims of these murders so STFU and slither back into the ooze where you belong.
Nov 14th, 2015 - 03:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 021 Think
Nov 14th, 2015 - 04:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“If your Scandinavian heritage goes back half as long as mine...,”
30 seconds ... and still only in your imagination.
Trust me if you were in any way related to my family at any point in the last 2000 years, we would have had the good sense to have had you aborted shortly after conception.
You seem to forget that you once gave me a very detailed description of your connection to Scandinavian, and in no part of that was there any mention of Scandinavian heritage by birth.
France was anti American and anti-Anglo Saxon globalisation. The USA begins to withdraw from middle east and 120 lie dead in Paris.
Nov 14th, 2015 - 04:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ironic isn't it?
(24) Kære, søde lillebror
Nov 14th, 2015 - 05:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Please add to that “very detailed description of my connection to Scandinavia” an uninterrupted and documented Scandinavian bloodline since ~1080 AC.
No church records before that... so, the rest is legend...
Vi tales ved
El Tænk...
;-)))
#2 Shit - for-brains.
Nov 14th, 2015 - 05:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Have a look at this latest from ISIS. What has this got to do with the west ?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-34805466
It seems a simple case of ISIS hating ANYONE who disagrees with their creed, whether or not they are Muslims.
#26
I see you are claiming Danish ancestry...the people who the English kicked out of England whereas we kicked out the Norse.
ISIS kill more muslims than anyone else. Nothing like a tragedy for the anti-Islam bigots to use it as a platform for their prejudices.
Nov 14th, 2015 - 05:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 01 MK8 Torpedo
Nov 14th, 2015 - 06:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Vive La France.”
I'm with you on that.
The death toll ( according to the latest reports ) 192 Dead, 86 critically injured. I am not going to be the first to say “I told you so” because Nigel Farage ( Greatest Prime Minister we never had ) warned and warned that this was going to happen.
For all of his warnings he was labelled a “Scare-monger” and a “Racist” ( whatever THAT means these days ).
I hope that Angela Merkel can sleep well tonight and M Hollande as well. Their open borders and their “all are welcome” policies just killed 192 people.
My thoughts and best wishes go out to the families that have been torn apart by this tragedy.
@29 Utter rubbish. Don't blame anyone but the terrorists responsible for this. Why let them off and aim the blame at elected governments who are acting on the will of the majority.
Nov 14th, 2015 - 06:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am heartily glad that Farage has never been in a position of power and he stated he never wanted to be Prime Minister. So, how do you square that?
And btw you never 'told us so'. You may have vented your prejudices on here but said nothing that we didn't already know about the threat of terrorist groups on our civilised societies.. We are in a war against terrorism so stop posting for the terrorists because you are saying exactly what they want you to say.
I am in France at the moment and speaking to the French people, they are nowhere near as bigoted as you.
(27) Clyde15
Nov 14th, 2015 - 06:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nope... I claim Scandinavian ancestry...
And..., by the way.... Nobody kicked no one out...
During some 500 years the mighty Vikings taught them Brits everything that today they regard as“British Culture & Values”. (Including the language...)
In retribution, them ginger local female furies converted the Vikings to Christianity...
And..., as good Christians, the Vikings just went home when asked so by the Brits...
It used to be difficult to set up a Christian church in a basically Muslim country, I don't know about now but it was a few years ago.
Nov 14th, 2015 - 07:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 31 ThinkVoice
Nov 14th, 2015 - 07:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Clyde15,
This fake Scando, is the same one that claims to live in Dunoon, but denies he is British... etc etc ...
@31 Slither, a serious subject, hundreds of grieving families and you come on here with a bunch of lies about where you originate from! You are a sick twisted shit. Crawl back under your stone. Liar! Idiot! And a creep all rolled into one.
Nov 14th, 2015 - 08:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0IMO(not humble!)all this murder & mayhem can be laid at the door of spineless, soft-cock politicians & of course, the bleeding heart, pc crowd.
Nov 14th, 2015 - 08:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Governments have been warned repeatedly that islam is NOT compatible with western values, but prefer to ignore it.
Well it won't go away & it is time for something to be done.
l can think of many things that l would do, if l were running a country.
Unfortunately(or fortunately, depending who you are!) l am not.
There is much, much more to all this than meets the eye.
This whole scenario was designed to cause maximum disruption & it is doing so.
Anyone with half a brain knows that Arab people are volatile, violent & difficult to assimilate, yet still successive governments have welcomed these immigrants into once peaceful nations……why?
There is an ulterior motive……but what?
Gert Wilders is right, it is time to expel millions of muslims.
lt matters not to me if people don't like my views & you can label me as you like, l don't care.
All around the world, people are having trouble with muslims.
That speaks volumes.
lt is an evil religion & should be obliterated.
Do nothing & we will see more attacks.
My two cents worth.
Elaine,
Nov 14th, 2015 - 08:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0When these countries permit open borders and immigration to all whos valves are not the same as our this is what is guaranteed to happen.
Fill your country with middle easterners and it will be the same as the middle east with bombings and killings.
You don't see this happening in the Falklands do you? Why? Because it is not full of Muslims. Sunni Muslims are a plague
@ElaineB,
Nov 14th, 2015 - 09:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Before you throw the words “prejudice” and “bigoted” around like confetti perhaps you should check on their meanings.
“prejudiced” means forming an opinion - assumed to be an irrational or “unjust” opinion - with no prior facts or good evidence.
How can I be “prejudiced” when 1400 years of history and hundreds of terrorist attacks proves there is OVERWHELMING evidence that Islam is an EXISTENTIAL threat to Western Civilisation, as it has always been. Therefore I am “post-judiced”.
“Bigoted” means “to be intolerant towards other people's beliefs and practices.”
So, what is your solution to Islamic terrorism - more tolerance..?
Oh wait, hasn't that been tried..?
The UK does not have open borders. We did not sign up to the Schengen agreement. I absolutely do not agree with your assertion about muslims.
Nov 14th, 2015 - 09:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I respect other peoples views but think on this: The Nazis said that all Jews were the same. Exterminate the Jews. How are the anti-Islamist any different?
Are we to say that all Irish are terrorists because of the IRA? Of course not. The Islamic extremists kill more muslims than anyone else. They are not all terrorists. Check yourselves and think about what you are saying..
@2 brasshole (the one with 'merda' for brains)
Nov 14th, 2015 - 09:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Men what Westerners call of terrorists, Islam calls soldiers.”
Your observation shows us very clearly the disgusting piece of crap you are - just a dirty terrorist sympathizer.
I sincerely hope that one day, you, or someone from your family is killed by Islamic terrorists....maybe then, you'll change your tune, you sick bastard.
I could also draw a parallel to the shit you posted, by saying :
Men that honest people call thieves, the PT calls “cumpanheiros” (“comrades” in Portuguese, as spoken by the ignorant, corrupt Lula-rat.)
@17 asshole
“We, Brazilians, we do not have this problem because we are pacifists by nature. We destroy another country in another time, and the nightmare is too large to this day”....
“Pacifists by nature”.....that's one of Brazil's problems. If the Brazzos had balls, they send fat ass and the likes of you, to PQP !
So, the “nightmare is too large to this day” ? The only time Brazil got into a war and destroyed another country, was 150 years ago, during the “Guerra do Paraguai”. What an asshole, trying to sound apologetic for something that has nothing to do with you.....F*ck you !
30 ElaineB
Nov 14th, 2015 - 09:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“@29 Utter rubbish. Don't blame anyone but the terrorists responsible for this. Why let them off and aim the blame at elected governments who are acting on the will of the majority”
Really? M Hollande and Merkel opened the whole of Europe up, invited anyone and everyone in and they were “acting on the will of the majority” Really?
Nigel Farage warned them this would happen, stood up in the EU Parliament and warned them that ISIS said that they would send fighters over in the boats and they would “watch Europe burn” He warned them and no one listened.
I accept the fact that terrorists will be terrorists no matter where they are but to throw the doors of Europe open and not to check who you are letting in, well, is that not a tad silly? Is that not criminally stupid given the warnings?
This tragedy could have / should have been avoided, but as per usual, those that “know best” ignored the warnings and common sense and it's the ordinary person, trying to go about their daily lives that paid the price.
So no, I am not going to be the first to say “I told you so” because Nigel Farage will probably be saying it under his breath already.
As Bob Dylan once famously sang:-
You don't need a weather man to know which way the wind blows.
P.S:- I am not letting the terrorists off. But remember it's the “lected governments who are acting on the will of the majority” that allowed them to do what they did.
“Thanks” Bush and Blair for getting rid of Saddam and “creating” Isis.
Nov 14th, 2015 - 09:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Islamic science
Sheik Abdul-Aziz Bin Baaz, one of Saudi Arabia's most
respected scholars of Islam.
1993
“The earth is flat. Whoever claims it is round is an atheist deserving of punishment”
ElaineB
Nov 14th, 2015 - 10:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“The Nazis said that all Jews were the same. Exterminate the Jews. How are the anti-Islamist any different?”
So predictable - never takes a sanctimonious liberal long to inject the Nazis into a political discussion does it? May well be one of the shortest measurable periods of time. That said....
Hitler had no intention of killing the Jews - he wanted to deport them but the war made that impossible and it was the Mufti of Jerusalem who exhorted him to “burn them” since he feared they would all end up in Palestine.
(41) Marcos Alejandro
Nov 14th, 2015 - 10:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You say...:
“ “Thanks” Bush and Blair for getting rid of Saddam and “creating” Isis ”
May I supplement? ...:
“Thanks” Bush and Blair for double crossing your man Saddam and “creating” Isis...
Apparently one of the terrorists arrived on a Greek island in October,Claiming to be a refugee.
Nov 14th, 2015 - 10:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Was bound to happen.
43 Think
Nov 14th, 2015 - 10:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0May I elaborate? ...:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xw3gu_blowback-and-saddam-hussein_news
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xw3gu_blowback-and-saddam-hussein_news
TWIMC
Nov 14th, 2015 - 11:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As I mentioned at my post No. (16)...:
“They are coming here because you were there.”
Think about it...
I for one think that Islam is NOT a peaceful faith! The sutras exclaim 'death to the infidels' and most of them say aspecialy the Jews. By staying silent Muslims condone the terrorists, there is no such thing as a noderate muslim, we (GBR) should outlaw this 'reliligon' as we once did with the papists.
Nov 14th, 2015 - 11:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0TWIMC
Nov 14th, 2015 - 11:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Anglo Turnip at (47) says...:
“I for one think that Islam is NOT a peaceful faith! The sutras exclaim 'death to the infidels”
I say...:
The Sutras ??????????
What a prize turnip!!!!!!!!!!
The Truth is, the west always bounces back from these tragedies. Because the ideas and freedoms of the west are resilient.
Nov 15th, 2015 - 12:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Truth is that all the deaths from terrorism attacks in the west during past 20 years is equal to less than 10% of the ANNUAL homicide rate in South America.
Ten times more South Americans kill their hermanos and hermanas EVERY year.
The number of Parisians killed is pretty much equal to the number of Brazilians murdered every day. Day in day out. Venezuelans also murder roughly the same number daily. It takes Argentines a bit longer.....one month but they get there eventually.
Over 370 South Americans are murdered daily. That's the terrorism the South American posters on here turn a blind eye to daily.
It is hardly surprising their reaction on what happened in Paris. They value lives differently.
@49
Nov 15th, 2015 - 12:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0Think and Marcos do not live in SA. It is doubtful they are South American
My condolences to the families of the victims of the territorist attacs. I think we should all have a thought about what is happening to the world. Specially about foreign military adventurism. Providing weapons and training to terrorists in Syria and Libya is not a good way to protect themselves from terrorism. To dictate who has to be in charge of Syria either. This is not a chess game where France choose a “rebelion”(=terrorist) force to arm, against Russia that choosed Bashar al-Asad.
Nov 15th, 2015 - 12:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0The poorer nations will not present a formal declaration of war. They will just harm them all they cant, where it hurts. Its like the North American war of independence where farmers fighted the british empire in every way they could.
Terrorism is horrible, but ISIS will not go to militarilly invade France.
I confess I was wrong about the possibility that terrorists would conceal their presence within the flood of refugees besieging Europe. Perhaps it was France's laws regarding the wearing of face-concealing head-ware that flipped their switch.
Nov 15th, 2015 - 03:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0I don't buy the often vaguely expressed views I've been reading and hearing over the last 24 hours ( and for years actually ) that being a Muslim automatically equates to sympathy for terrorism or the version that ISIS 'advocates' though. The latter of which is more closely aligned with nihilism than any deity I've ever heard of.
@51 Liberato
The Syrians western countries have supported are not terrorists, they were inspired by the 'Arab spring' and opposed a repressive dictatorship. Of all the armed forces fighting in Syria's civil war, they are the only ones advocating democracy as a means of governing. The Islamist groups ( of which ISIS is only one ) that also joined the fight are opportunists. Iran and it's proxy, Hezbollah are Shia, which explains their presence. As for Russia, Syria, under Al-Assad, represents it's only middle-eastern influence, which they wold likely lose if those who either advocate ISIS extremism or western-style democracy ever gain power.
Vive La France!
Nov 15th, 2015 - 04:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0First off, MY condolences to: ANY and ALL families or relatives involved, should any of you be unfortunate enough to read this. It is almost always innocent people who pays the price for insanity.
Nov 15th, 2015 - 04:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0To the Keyboard-Warriors: I'm making one post. Deal with it.
That said: to the venomous white people who has written here, YOU on the other hand ARE deserving of this faith. That (white) Americans have the audacity to even speak, when they stole a whole country from its people. That They, the numerical majority (white people, in America) decide if Mexicans and are are welcome into “their” country? =lol...
Democracy... or rather hypocrisy, because why would white people be a numerical majority in a country they have no claim on?
This is the equivalent of my going into your house, murdering your family, and then moving into “your” house with MY family. Now we'll vote on who shall prepare dinner. By an almost unanimous vote: you, white dude, you've been selected to prepare dinner. You'll have it ready at 1800 hours. Failure to do so, will result in your immediate decapitation. Democracy.
This is but the tip of the ice-berg (another white disaster). Keep putting white lives above all else, and white lives shall become but a remnant in history. A testament to an out of control-ego, fueled by an insatiable need to dominate. You'll pay the price when the world grows tired of its...bully.
Question, how to you stop a bully? You end its existence. Total annihilation. No mercy, no pardon, no quarter. The END of all communication, BECAUSE your ACTIONS throughout history shown that your words mean NOTHING.
Thus, nothing you shall become
R.I.P.
I think some of the posters here have never read the Old Testament when condemning Islam.
Nov 15th, 2015 - 07:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0You know the terrorists group WANT to divide western societies and pit people against the peaceful muslims living there. The fundamentalist terrorists deliberately attack where they know there is already tension to further create division. From this they can further recruit and raise more money. You need to think about how easily you are being manipulated by the terrorists.
@41 Marcos & @43 Think,
Nov 15th, 2015 - 09:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0l never thought that l'd agree with you pair of misogynists, but in this case you are correct.
l was always against the ousting of Saddam & the interfering in lraqi affairs.
For all his brutality, Uncle Saddam at least kept his subjects in line.
We have created ISIL(don't call them ISIS, lsis was the wife of Osiris of Egypt. Goddess of women & healing). Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11.
Al Queida hated him as much as theY hated the west.
He led a secular state. One member of his cabinet was a Christian.
lt was all about oil & the bogey of WMD.
So now we(but not in my name)have destabilized the area & lsil have raised their hideous head. Bush & Blair(Blair did as he was told)did all this.
So now we are left holding the baby & they are long gone.
@54 Elaine,
That may be true, but if there were NO muslims in Europe then we would have NO home grown terrorists.
None of this is going to end well.
When l see the human race in all its glory, then l know just why l prefer cats.
@55 Ha! I agree with most of what you say. I was never in favour of ousting Saddam and protested against the war which was a vanity project for Bush and Blair. The consequences are what we are dealing with now. But other factors have played a part. Our one superpower has had a poor foreign policy which has allowed a space for the terrorists to flourish and we have 'looked the other way' over the involvement of 'friendly' countries in the Middle East.
Nov 15th, 2015 - 09:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0You will also know from my past contributions that I believe we should allow our security forces to fight ISIL in whatever way they need to. A lot happens that we do not, nor never should, know about in this battle. If we could keep from idolising the blabbermouths like Assange and Snowden, we would be in a much better placed position. We don't ever need to play by the rules when dealing with terrorists. JMO
What you are suggesting is simply impossible. 10% of the population in France is Muslim and they live here legally. I am in France at the moment and apart from some on the extreme-right, no one is suggesting such a 'solution'. It could never happen.
We must not confuse members of ISIL with Muslims. They don't represent Muslims. They kill Muslims. Though they do need to be a lot more vocal in condemning ISIL.
Nostril shut up! Your revolting racism is showing
Nov 15th, 2015 - 10:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0Brasileiro - So by you then you support those who when they went into thye Bataclan hall - the first people they deliberatley shot- one bullet each in the head - were a group of disabled defenceless unarmed civilians - in their wheel chairs? because from eye witness accounts THAT is what those thugs did.
Nov 15th, 2015 - 10:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0Give me ONE example of the West ever deliberately attacking a known defenceless and unarmed civilian target in Iraq-Afghanistan-Syria etc.
Mistakes and errors can happen in war yes - but deliberate is very different.
(59) Islander1
Nov 15th, 2015 - 10:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0You say...:
“Give me ONE example of the West ever deliberately attacking a known defenceless and unarmed civilian target in Iraq-Afghanistan-Syria etc.”
I say...: Problems with your short memory huhhhh?
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/03/kunduz-charity-hospital-bombing-violates-international-law
By the way...
Interesting thread this one..., in which, many of them Anglo posters that so violently defend the inexistent self-determination rights of some 2,500 British squatting citizens in the South Atlantic are more than willing to deport millions of British Muslim citizens from the UK...
As they say in me Ol' Country...:
Standards are good...
Double-standards are better...
@54
Nov 15th, 2015 - 11:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0You have written abject cr4p on these boards before, but your post above takes the cake.
Why would “white Americans” have less right to a part of the American continent than “Latino Mexicans”?
You can argue all day long about the European conquest of the Americas, or indeed the migration from Africa 10,000-30,000 years previously. It happened. The “white Americans” aren't going to leave Northern America, any more than the “Latino Americans” are going to leave the South.
The countries now exist, the North “white Americans” have chosen democracy to run their countries, the South “Latin Americans” have switched between despot to military Junta, to corrupt fascism.....as is their right.
None of this has anything to do with the events in Paris.
Those who are unafraid to click on links should do so on this:
Nov 15th, 2015 - 12:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/islamic-state/11996879/Islams-civil-war-between-medievalists-and-modernisers.html
This Muslim has put the problem facing us all, bat shit mad bastard Islamists, modern Muslims and all the other people of the world insofar as understanding what is going on with these radicals, and the reasons why, in an easily understood (apart from EB who 'never' clicks links, yes, that flies) article.
@62 Awww, begging for attention from me again? Grow up.
Nov 15th, 2015 - 12:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I don't click links because I want to hear you OWN words, not the words of others. Presuming you have an opinion of your own. I read widely and don't need you to choose what I read.
Terrible tragedy for the innocents of France... it was not their fight...
Nov 15th, 2015 - 01:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Interesting to see the Yanks exploiting an opportunity to drag Europe further into a an escalating situation that has no benefit to Europe...
The Yanks have always been keen to have it's battles fought outside it's own borders...
If the Yanks want to meddle in the Middle East...let them do it alone and let them bear the consequences...
If Muslims want to kill each other....pull out and let them....
IT IS NOT OUR FIGHT!!!....
As Mr. Think points out....They are here because we were/are there...
Remove the cause and benefit from the effect....Simple...
@63 EB
Nov 15th, 2015 - 02:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You just can't stop replying to me can you, even though you know that you are lying when you claim 'not to click downloads'?
Please tell us all how you access how you 'read' widely without clicking on links?
How do you access MercoPress without clicking the link from your email programme or do you not know that when you click on the MP item you are actually clicking on a link?
Enough of your prissy little attitude to the male sex. Go play with the rest of the feminists on here, if you can find one.
P.S. Isolde is a woman of the world, as well as being a worldly woman, I am hoping you can actually work that one out for yourself. She is always worth reading, she doesn't need feminism to hide behind when things get 'tough', like you do.
@64 thats a pretty good impression of a parrot! Do you sit on Slithers shoulders too squawking “pieces of hate!” Whos a pretty boy then?
Nov 15th, 2015 - 02:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“thats a pretty good impression of a parrot!”
Nov 15th, 2015 - 02:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0...Says the idiot calling himself Voice....Doh!
Let's think that one through....
@65 You mentioned me, what did you expect. Let me clarify it for you, befuddled old man, though it was perfectly clear. I don't click links in individual posts on here and I explained why. Why does it concern you if I do or not? Get over it. I don't need a bigoted old fool telling me what to read.
Nov 15th, 2015 - 02:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why do you think the word 'feminist' is an insult? Does it scare you?
Isn't it time for you to post about your two obsessions, anal sex and blow jobs? It has been a few posts since you did.
66
Nov 15th, 2015 - 02:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Do you have an opinion on the Events in Paris or any thing related to the article...?
No one is interested in your juvenile personal attacks on contributors to the forum...
If you don't have anything interesting or relevant to say....
Why not just fcuk off and leave it to those that have....
All your comments on this thread have only consisted of attacking others...
You give Trolls a bad name....
Yes, you're right, “says the idiot calling himself Voice” - who is that then?
Nov 15th, 2015 - 02:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Twat! Bahahaha - less of the liquid lunch parrot, and your wit just might be able to compete.
'THINK' that one through… .
@55 EB
Nov 15th, 2015 - 02:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“I think some of the posters here have never read the Old Testament when condemning Islam.”
This pathetic argument is always re-girgitated by appeasers of the Religion of Hatred and Intolerance, otherwise known as Islam (which means “submission”).
When was the last time fundamentalist Christians blew up a passenger aircraft or set off bombs or mass killings in public places? eh? crickets chirping......
I am very sure that IF a group of extremist “Christians” ever committed JUST ONE shooting or bombing atrocity against Muslims - even on a much smaller scale than this one - thousands of Christians would be out on the streets demonstrating against the extremists in their midst. Thousands of people would be helping the police by informing them of potential terrorists and of terrorist talk they had overheard.
How many “moderate” muslims are helping the authorities in this way? A tiny, tiny handful I would suggest. WHY are the “moderate” muslims not helping us defeat this scourge..? It leads one to suspect that they are shedding crocodile tears and not exactly grieving about these atrocities. I believe Margaret Thatcher made this point many years ago - long before things got as bad as they are now.
You are quick to blame those you slander as “extreme rightists” (presumably anyone to the right of David Cameron) for trying to make capital out of these events. And you claim we are being “manipulated by the terrorists”? No, it is the appeasers and apologists like you who have been manipulated. Your “solution” appears to be more “tolerance” and more “understanding” - IOW, if we keep behaving like Jesus, turning the other cheek and a blind eye, the attacks will stop.
As Thatcher would have said - “NO NO NO....AND NO AGAIN..!”
@71 It is a valid argument you don't like.
Nov 15th, 2015 - 03:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The rest of your rambling hatred of Muslims is a reflection of your bigotry, nothing else.
@69 Knob.. What can I add to this, you cant even read what I said to your sock puppet Think who thinks his false origin is the subject to discuss rather than the topic, the horrific events in Paris! And as for non contribution the genuine posters here have observed your consistent fatuous and irrelavent comments and bare faced lies for the last couple of years. Everyone agrees that you wouldnt be missed. Do try to keep up.
Nov 15th, 2015 - 03:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I rest my case...
Nov 15th, 2015 - 03:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0...more boring personal attacks and no opinion on the event...
@9. Are you trying to make a valid point? It was just an MSF whinge. As per Gaza, we're all aware that muslim terrorists like to use apartment buildings, schools, hospitals, markets to store and fire weapons. Were these so-called “doctors” wandering around challenging everyone? So they got splattered with the terrorists. Tough.
Nov 15th, 2015 - 03:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@17. That'll be why you murder so many people. 56,337 in 2012.
@28. No, Elaine, I think you'll find they kill more arabs.
@31. Typical bit of argie misdirection and lies. By the time of the Danes and the Norse most of the British Isles were occupied by Anglo Saxons. Thus England. Scotland is essentially Irish. Wales still has Brits. “Vikings” aren't a race. It's an occupation. As anyone of Scandinavian origin should know. The “Vikings”, except for a few, didn't go home. They got assimilated. In other words, they got bred out.
@35. Have to agree with obliteration.
@38. What shall we refer to? ALL or MAJORITY. Who protects them? Who hides them? Who makes excuses for them? Ever heard of conspiracy? If you're not AGAINST them, you're FOR them. Where's this wonderful, socially-aware, condemnatory community? Silent. Now think.
@46. So we dragged them down out of whatever trees they had? Or perhaps up out of their caves?
@54. Good try, but no banana for you. Should we take note of the Spanish etc invasion, conquest, occupation of South America and the subsequent murders. 400 years. Mexico, Peru, Rio de la Plata, Paraguay, New Granada. The population of the Native Amerindian population in Mexico declined by an estimated 90% (reduced to 1–2.5 million people) by the early 17th century. In Peru the indigenous Amerindian pre-contact population of around 6.5 million declined to 1 million by the early 17th century. Just look at that, 97 million people gone. There can be no question, ethnic type Spaniards in South America and Islam wherever should be subject to total annihilation. No mercy, no pardon, no quarter. Let them be done by as they did.
(64) Voice
Nov 15th, 2015 - 03:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You say..:
“Interesting to see the Yanks exploiting an opportunity to drag Europe further into a an escalating situation that has no benefit to Europe”
I say...:
I take it that you, as most of the inhabitants of the British Isles, do not consider the UK to be “Europe”...
The ongoing Anglo American Oil War against the Levant, has been raging for more than 100 years now...
Only novelty being that the killings are not exclusively on Arab turf any more...
Let's hope that ISIL ain't already investing some of their many monies in tertiary education... as, for example... atomic physics.
Nick was manning the merchandising table at the Paris gig, as he has for years in the UK. He was a well known figure in the music world and will be widely missed. If you want to help Nicks bereaved family with a donation you can do it here… https://www.gofundme.com/y7aaknp8
Nov 15th, 2015 - 03:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 076 Think
Nov 15th, 2015 - 04:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes Mr. Think...ask a Brit to point where Europe is and they will point Eastwards...
...and here we have it as I expected...the puppet master has manipulated the strings and hence the escalation...
latest news...
“France will intensify its air strikes against the so-called Islamic State in Syria and Iraq in coordination with the US, according to US Deputy National Security Adviser Ben Rhodes.
”First of all, we're clearly going to work very closely with the French in terms of intelligence sharing, also in terms of their military response inside of Syria,“ Mr Rhodes told the ABC TV channel at the G20 summit in Turkey.”
...maybe they should have shared intelligence before the attack...there is not much the Yanks don't know about...whether it's in their interests to withhold it is another matter...
Aw..Bill and Ben at it again! They have tabs on potential fifth columnists snapping pictures of submarines in the Clyde thats for sure.
Nov 15th, 2015 - 04:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@64 voice
Nov 15th, 2015 - 04:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“If the Yanks want to meddle in the Middle East...let them do it alone and let them bear the consequences...
If Muslims want to kill each other....pull out and let them....
IT IS NOT OUR FIGHT!!!....
As Mr. Think points out....They are here because we were/are there...
Remove the cause and benefit from the effect....Simple”
Apart from being a “voice” of “Think”, who do you speak for?
We're getting the message loud & clear from the Russian Troll Factory, you want us (UK and esp. the US) to leave the Middle East to Russia and those who share her interests.
By the way, Mr. Fake, did you go to visit the cenotaph in Dunoon to pay your respects on Wednesday??
You sucked the question last time.
@80 ”you want us (UK and esp. the US) to leave the Middle East to Russia and those who share her interests.”
Nov 15th, 2015 - 04:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Absolutely. Putin to the rescue as the Middle East mediator. He is involved because he wants to expand Russian interests and stop the flow of people from Russian and Central Asia heading to Syria.
Several cues from from ThinksVoice over the years.
Nov 15th, 2015 - 05:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Think”, a great supporter of the noble Soviet.
“voice” doesn't seem to have any appreciation of the UK
military man beyond wanting to know details about the RN submarine activities in and out of the Clyde.
Whether its under tbe banner of ISIS , ISIL, Daesh or Al Quaeda, bombing and wars will make little difference. Its the ideology of some young Muslim men, some young Muslim converts and those who never grew up that is the problem. These organisations are just a convenient banner for the impressionable stupid and evil to flock to.
Nov 15th, 2015 - 05:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The corrupted Muslim ideologies need to be shown to be cruel, unworkable and wrongheaded just like Peronism and Communism has been shown to be rottern ideologies that just dont work for societies. There are now very few countries that really believe in these Mantra, Cuba, North Korea, Venezuala and other SA states including Argieland are the only dumbheads who cling on to these failed ideologies.
There should be a worldwide push to demonstrate the futility of following this corrupted version of Islam, bombs and bullets only harden warped resolve. Just like Peronistas Daesh followers are just losers.
80
Nov 15th, 2015 - 05:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Who do I speak for...?
What kind of a silly question is that...?
Where am I and where are all my interests...
Who mentioned the Russians...?
If Russia wants to meddle in the East...who cares...it really worked out well for them in Afghanistan the last time...
Really worked out well for the British the first time....Auckland's Folly
...and really worked out well for the Yanks....
Russia don't have the resources to act on their own...
What is the next move in Yankee manipulation.....
How about NATO involvement....
Opps...too late...
“I think this will be a mission of NATO boots on the ground in the range of 10-15,000”
Admiral James Stavridis, a former Nato Supreme Allied Commander...
@84 hates Yanks, so would you if a Yank ran off with the Mrs.. Holy Loch was once crawling with Yanks. And Voice/ Thinks environs are No 1 on the UK nuclear target list. Wipe out the Trident base, no further support. Any sign of trouble and Trout Run is there to scuttle off to.
Nov 15th, 2015 - 05:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 085
Nov 15th, 2015 - 06:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Do you ever digest anything I have previously said....
The Mrs is a Yank....
I like Yanks...it still doesn't excuse Yankee manipulation of the Middle East...
Talk about Getting it Wrong...you are not related to Pascoe and pickled Pepper by any chance...?
Back to the boring personal attacks I see....
Anyone agree/disagree with leaving the Middle East to implode on it's own...?
@ 68 ElaineB
Nov 15th, 2015 - 06:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“You mentioned me,”
Of course I did. you are all about 'me, me, me' aren't you?
I didn't realise that I held so much potential power over you, but clearly I seem to: “Get over it. I don't need a bigoted old fool telling me what to read.” Well you are great at making your mind up despite the facts to the contrary, I didn't realise that you are clairvoyant, does your employer realise that, I bet not?. I had an MD who was famous for that until he made the mistake of telling the Group MD the same thing and found himself out of work.
“Why do you think the word 'feminist' is an insult? Does it scare you?”
Not at all, I have had many intelligent and well qualified women work for me over my career and they always sought employment from me because of it. You of course are unemployable in any role where what you say has any ramifications on the business and heaven forbid, the customers: they would soon suss your 'clairvoyance characteristic'.
“Isn't it time for you to post about your two obsessions, anal sex and blow jobs? It has been a few posts since you did.” Well, seeing as you ask me:
no, better not you seem a little flustered and repetitive as it is, just look at how many times you have accused me and others of being a bigot, bigotry, etc.:
29 toooldtodieyoung;
37 ernest shackleton;
71 ernest shackleton AGAIN;
Anyway, enough of the jollities; carry on accusing people of bigotry, you certainly should know what the word means, or don't you?
@86 ThinksVoice
Nov 15th, 2015 - 06:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0ah, the biggest perpetrator of the personal attack, is now using it as a criticism of others...
...your wife... Trout Run... blah blah... yeah, sure.
As a 'proud Scot', what happened to the 'righteous indignation' one would expect you to demonstrate when your patriotism is questioned? “Doh!” - what a faker!!
Hey, if it walks like a duck... You are calling for NATO and the US to stay out of the Middle East and stop “meddling”, yet we never hear from you any criticism of Putin or Russian intervention.
Not hearing any ringing endorsement of British values, British BOT sovereignty.
Oh, right - you steadfastly refuse to say you are British - why would that be? What are you hiding?
You know your views are inconsistent with that of patriotic British citizens, and you're not letting on what other associations you have, that shape your convictions.
Fake.... !
Cool ....as soon as we veer from a Falklands related topic the united Anglo front begins to crumble...at each others throats in no time....
Nov 15th, 2015 - 06:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A manipulative Troll I'm sure, could use this to their advantage....
Lucky.... I'm not a Troll eh..?
Hey ChrisR...I'm on your side...Women ...you can't live with them and you can't live with them...(Don't tell ElaineB)
Hey ElaineB...The Vote for Women too!!....( I have lots of friends who are women) (Keep it to yourself and don't tell ChrisR)...
@Stink
Nov 15th, 2015 - 07:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A complete miss-representation of history. How typically Argy of you.
Let me remind you, 9/11 came BEFORE the invasions of Afghanistan or Iraq.
As for an Oil war, oil has rarely been cheaper, how’s that work then?
Education of any kind, other than teaching their version of Islam, gets you a death sentence under ISIL.
@ 86 Voice
Naive in the extreme Voicey, if you think leaving them to it means it won’t end up coming our way.
That’s what the likes of you said about Hitler.
Anyway, much better to be dropping cluster munitions and big whizz bangs in Afghanistan, Iraq or Syria than have to in Western Europe.
Heh heh heh! Fake Scot, Fake Argy, the same person, chaos, everyone at each others throats. What a palavar?
Nov 15th, 2015 - 07:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Meanwhile hundreds of grieving and anxious French families. Should we be ashamed?
91 Pensar
Nov 15th, 2015 - 07:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What a cryptic comment.
Please explain what you are saying.
The Troll, Think /Voice is exploiting this terrorist attack to convey the message that NATO should stay out of Syria, and by default, leave it to the Russians.
That has been the Russian message all along.
Now that there has been a terrorist attack in Europe, as well as Beirut in the Middle East, there an be no fence-sitting.
“Should we be ashamed?”
Ashamed of what?
Who is “we”?
@ 72 EB,
Nov 15th, 2015 - 08:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“your rambling hatred of Muslims is a reflection of your bigotry, nothing else.”
I don't hate Muslims per se, but I do hate Islam (submission) and anyone who believes in freedom should do the same. You no doubt hate “Nazis” - do you also hate Germans?
Anyway, you have made it obvious that you prefer not to debate this issue but to wallow in your own misguided sense of moral superiority and throw insults at me.
Its also obvious that you know nothing about this hateful “religion” this evil cult which threatens death to anyone who dares to criticise it, or anyone who dares to leave it even though the religion is forced on babies at birth.
Christianity once did the same, but it reformed - albeit reluctantly. Islam as it stands is totally incompatible with Western democratic ideals and that is why we see all the terrorism - its their way of keeping the pot of anger and resentment, and their sense of (unjustified) grievance, on the boil. Islam is afraid of the truth, because the truth will mean the end of Islam (as we know it) and that explains why they are lashing out in all directions. Its difficult to think straight when you are angry.
You should stick to what you know - commenting on Arg and F.I. issues - you are good at that.
91
Nov 15th, 2015 - 08:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Or Palaver even....
dar que pensar....
...yeah I'd be ashamed of poor English....
MERCO PRESS
Nov 15th, 2015 - 08:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Night of gun and bombs attacks in Paris:
Who do you support?
If you sympathise with ISIS, then we already know,
If you support the innocent, freedom, democracy,
Then we are you al tearing at each other,
We all have an opinion, but we should all be united in condemning this atrocity should we not
No matter how much information we have or how diligent we are these evil murderers will find a way to get through and kill,
Governments talk big, but do little, the secret services try their best,
The military and police do a dam good job, but governments tend to fail them once the stouts die down and more cuts slip in.
Remember India, New York, London, Spain, France,
And now France again,
Who will be next, what can we do to prevent this,
A united front of nations, stop nations donating, supporting and harbouring them will help,
Stop the radical preachers from preaching this brainwashing crap,
Throw out all suspected terrorist, DNA them all with photographs and finger printing, iris scans,
Proper scans at airports that were stopped because some objected to them.
Remove rights from these people, in preference of the mases,
On the other hand we could all just PRAY.
Sometimes you have to sacrifice to make things safer.
Opinions are nice, debates are nice,
But stopping these brainwashed nutters are a priority
Just my humble opinion.
Sunday again..
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@87 Since you appear to be suffering from early dementia, you said @62 ”and the reasons why, in an easily understood (apart from EB who 'never' clicks links, yes, that flies) article.“ See, you mentioned me, hence my response, though I am more than happy to ignore you since you offer nothing of any worth to discussions.
Nov 15th, 2015 - 09:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You really do not know what feminism is, do you? It is not about who worked for you decades ago when you were still useful to society. ”I have had many intelligent and well qualified women work for me over my career “. Astonishingly ignorant about the meaning of feminism.
Feminism is just two words. 'Equal Opportunities'. Nothing more and nothing less than that. And yet you use the word as a form of insult to me.
Let me remind your dementia addled brain: ”Enough of your prissy little attitude to the male sex. Go play with the rest of the feminists on here, if you can find one.” Used as an insult. Feminism is about being given the same opportunities as men, nothing more. You seem to regard it as something wrong. Maybe you have more in common with ISIL members than you care to admit.
Yes, I am sick of you slavering over your keyboard panting about anal sex and blow jobs. You come across as a ranting old pervert but, hey, carry on if it is how you get your kicks.
@93 Nice attempt at a twist. ISIL are a terrorist group operating falsely in the name of Islam. They are nothing to do with Muslims. They don't act in the name of Muslims.
*sign* No I don't hate Germans - obviously. I made the comment that the idea of attacking all Muslims was akin to Hitler attacking all Jews. If you think about it, it is the same bigotry.
There are many religions that can live along side each other with tolerance. What cannot be tolerated is extremism. I extend that to all forms of religion and political ideals.
@93 Shackleton
Nov 15th, 2015 - 09:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What happened?
You don't seem to be “Ernest Shackleton” anymore.
The division between the posters regarding the attack in France, who are normally unified as pro-Falklands, is a good indicator that they are individuals. As opposed to “voice” and “Think” “vestige” “Hepatia” “Stevie”, etc. who are very united in their own message.
Troy, all the trolls sing from the same official hymn sheet. I am wondering whether their stipends will continue under Macri? It will be great to witness what happens after the 22nd.
Nov 15th, 2015 - 09:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@98 THE Voice
Nov 15th, 2015 - 10:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I really wonder if they are actually related in any way to Arg, or if their Troll
attacks on the FI are only part of a larger agenda to discredit NATO and non-socialist aligned countries.
@96 EB...
Nov 15th, 2015 - 10:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“They are nothing to do with Muslims. They don't act in the name of Muslims.”
Its amazing how easily some people are duped by the mind-numbing “Religion of Peace” mantra repetitively re-gigitated by the BBC and taqqiya-spouting “moderate” Muslims. Then you are either a fool, a liar, a self-deciever or simply too ARROGANT and self-righteous to see what is right in front of your nose.
I had to chuckle at your arrogant “because I am in France now I know better than any of you lot what the French people are thinking”. Marine Le Pen - who you would dismiss as “extreme-right” (i.e., a Nazi) was already way in front of the polls BEFORE Friday, with about 30% support. So if 30% of French were “extreme right-wing Nazis” before Friday then how many more now? Seems like your French friends are as out of touch with reality as you are.
While the average muslim might not be a terrorist, or even a sympathizer of Islamic extremism, the fact remains, that if they don't want all muslims to be labelled terrorists, they should speak out against it. Very few Islamic religious leaders actually openly condemn terrorism, so by ommission they end up supporting it. Quite frankly, I don't see why Europe is so tolerant of their fanatical way-of-life, that is bent on destroying the West. Must be all the fucking liberals.
Nov 15th, 2015 - 10:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And it's definitely high-time that Europe grew a pair of balls and put an end to all this massive, uncontrolled entry of immigrants and free circulation within the EU.
@100 shackleton
Nov 15th, 2015 - 10:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Did you get banned for your rants criticising insulting MP and ElaineB ?
While I find the inability to edit or delete posts retroactively to be annoying, it gives me pause to be careful what I write.
I actually like it - it shows the inconsistencies and hypocrisy of some posters when you look back at their previous posts that have been captured. No whitewashing or covering up serious gaffes.
Troy, the odd thing is that some of them appear to be quite intelligent in some ways, but totally myopic in others. My conclusion is that they must be just slaves to paymasters following some sort of politically inspired script. However when they claim to come from some joke spot like Dunoon its clear that someone somewhere is making a crass error of judgement :-)
Nov 15th, 2015 - 11:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0103 TV
Nov 16th, 2015 - 12:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0I think they are trying to make their multiple personas distinct from each other, by adding a few details.
The Troll who is running wee man “voice” is the same one who ran “DoveOverDover”, a fully fleshed out “Scottish” character, so detailed that it was unsustainable - too much effort, and so much information that he got tripped up.
“voice” started out as low-maintenance persona, releasing very little info, but as he started to create fictitious scenarios, he had to embellish. There are several other personas that have the same style and use of speech, that give NO info, “vestige” (doesnt the name alone, give him away?), and “Marcos Alejandro”, neith of whom strike me as Argie.
Think/voice,
No answer for my questions @80 ???
”Apart from being a “voice” of “Think”, who do you speak for?
We're getting the message loud & clear from the Russian Troll Factory, you want us (UK and esp. the US) to leave the Middle East to Russia and those who share her interests.“ ????
and,
”... Mr. Fake, did you go to visit the cenotaph in Dunoon to pay your respects on Wednesday??”
You sucked the question last time.
102 TT
Nov 16th, 2015 - 01:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Did you get banned for your rants criticising insulting MP and ElaineB ?”
No, not at all - I decided to follow Voice's advice (which turned out to be incorrect advice) and edit my profile, whilst there I decided to edit my name too. I'll probably change again soon - assuming I stay on this board, as I do find the comments section very primitive compared to Discus which they would be using if the skinflint owner were to pull his moth-eaten wallet out. Anyway I only chose the name ES because in my first few comments a couple of years back I attempted - without success - to ask the Argies what justification they had for claiming S.Georgia. crickets chirped....
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Nov 16th, 2015 - 02:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0Stupid question that's why....
SUNDAY!!! 8th November.....
Don't you know anything about the UK..?
It's always SUNDAY!!!
REMEMBRANCE SUNDAY...jeez.....
106 wee man “voice”
Nov 16th, 2015 - 04:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yes, yes, good try - it was all over FB on the weekend, I watched all the crap about Corbyn.
But - Wedneday was mentioned too.
Not that you went.
You're just trying to keep from answering. Stalling...
Well, did you go ??
Did you give thanks that somebody else have their lives to protect the way of living in Scotland?
Did you honour the military that liberated the 3000 civilians from a cowardly military junta in the South Atlantic?
Did you bow your head in respect and give the brave fighting men their due?
No, thought not.
#2 Brassass....Soldiers???????? Real soldier don't hide their faces and kill innocent civilians. And all in the hope of getting to rape 70 virgins. Twisted f%3ks.
Nov 16th, 2015 - 11:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0105
Nov 16th, 2015 - 12:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sorry about that, I should have been more explicit..
Some platforms put “keep me logged in” and others “remember me”...Same thing really....
Look for a box on your log-in to check...
109
Nov 16th, 2015 - 01:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There is a “remember me” tick-box there - I wasn't aware this would keep me logged-in though. But I'll try it now, thanks.
109 “voice”
Nov 16th, 2015 - 04:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Mr. Fake Scotsman,
Why can't you answer, “ did you go to pay respects at the REMEMBRANCE DAY ceremonies?”
Did you go?
Yes or no - simple.
re: my above spat with ElaineB, who kept accusing me of “hating” Muslims despite the fact (which I repeatedly emphasised, but she wasn't listening) that my ire is directed against Islam, not muslims per se.
Nov 16th, 2015 - 05:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just found this excellent short video by a very articulate guy who I'd never heard of before - he compelling makes the case that liberals take a “collectivist” view and are incapable of making a distinction between Islam and Muslims.
This entirely explains the closed mindset of EB and other so-called “liberals” and we already know she won't want to look in the mirror - since she has already arrogantly and pompously declared that she never opens links. (which is an utter lie of course)
https://www.facebook.com/EricAllenBell/videos/813305185414138/?fref=nf
96 ElaineB
Nov 16th, 2015 - 05:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So a blow job is out of the question then?
@112 “re: my above spat with ElaineB, who kept accusing me of “hating” Muslims ” Kept accusing you? Really? Exaggerating much. I once used the phrase 'rambling hatred'. Stop playing the victim.
Nov 16th, 2015 - 05:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why does it concern you? Are you so very desperate for my good opinion? Why not just be confident in your own opinion and accept we don't agree? Try being open-minded and tolerant.
“voice”,
Nov 16th, 2015 - 10:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0so much for the “Scottish patriot” of Dunoon
114 EB
Nov 16th, 2015 - 10:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Are you so very desperate for my good opinion?”
Ha, I noticed you said the same thing to ChrisR - phew, what a conceited self-important venomous shrew of a woman you are. Now we all know what the “B” in your name is.
Being “tolerant” means accepting and putting up with a bad situation. I cannot be tolerant of Islam because it is intolerant of everything that western civilisation stands for. I might have tolerated them if their numbers were small and they kept their mediaeval belief system to themselves. I also cannot be tolerant of sanctimonious hypocrites who vainly try to appease and tolerate this evil and outrageously savage death cult. Feeding a crocodile hoping it will eat you last.
Shakleton, I agree with your comments.
Nov 17th, 2015 - 12:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0Now comes the part where we need to find solutions to rid the world of this problem.
Here's my solutions.
1./ In conjunction with bombing campaigns and military force there needs to be a International effort to ostracize anyone linked in anyway to terrorism from Islam. A,/ Any terrorist or family related to them (uncles,cousins etc) can never attend ANY mosque ever and and anyone found breaking this rule stoned to death.
B./ Public campaign from the head Apple snack bars outlining very clearly that Islam is totally against what they are doing and everyone is to report anything suspicious.
C./ Rewrite the Koran with simple no bullshit clear interpretations relating to modern day life.
Massive international campaign going house to house in the Middle East documenting everyone and rooting out any sympathizers and shooting them in the street. (Tell the Press to F** off or they get shot for reporting it)
That is a start to solve the problem
@116 Since you have a problem with comprehension I will explain it to you one last time in basic language.
Nov 17th, 2015 - 12:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0I did NOT suggest you be tolerant of ISIL which IS a death cult and neither am I. Is that clear enough for you?
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Nov 17th, 2015 - 01:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0ISLAM is the Death Cult - ISIL is just a small offshoot - a distraction, a red-herring..
Watch the short (4 minute) video at 112 - he seems to know you personally.
You “might” learn something about yourself.
@119 No, Islam is not a death cult. There are 1.5 billion Muslims in the world and they are not all out to get you.
Nov 17th, 2015 - 01:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0115
Nov 17th, 2015 - 02:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0For goodness sake...what is wrong with you...?
The answer is no...I do not go to the Dunoon Parade...
...but
I do go to a smaller ceremony that is held at Lazaretto Point, it is quieter on the shore of the Holy Loch with the mountains as a backdrop and perfect to have a quiet moment to remember all my relatives that died in the Great War....
...happy now...?
see the spot for yersel...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-wHDKPMxsM
The “relatives that died in the Great War”, you refer to euphemistically,
Nov 17th, 2015 - 02:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0Would that be your Scottish relatives? You know, UK soldiers, fighting to keep Britain safe and free from totalitarian regimes and fascists of WWI and WWII ?
Just to be clear, did you pay your respect to the BRITISH soldiers who died to keep the Falklsnds from the Argies in 1982?
Just so's there's no 'confusion' like...
Thanks, brother.
Remembering mom's war? Good for you.
Nov 17th, 2015 - 03:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0#123
Nov 17th, 2015 - 10:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0Explain your comment...if you can.
@121 “voice”
Nov 18th, 2015 - 02:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0Still evasive, I see.
You're somebody's patriot alright - don't think its Scotland, though.
“Mike Summers met with members of the UK Home Office team recently in the UK, and Members have received extensive documentation on the process for selection and subsequent settlement requirements”
Nov 18th, 2015 - 05:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Turkey fans BOO during pre-match minute's silence for the victims of Paris attacks and chant 'Allahu Akhbar' before friendly against Greece”
Why don't you move to Ankara or Raqqa Mikey instead?
Why don't you, Marcos?
Nov 18th, 2015 - 08:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0No thanks Isolde, get ready for your new neighbors and don't forget to thank Mikey.
Nov 19th, 2015 - 03:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0127 Isolde,
Nov 19th, 2015 - 08:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0As we see @128,
uneducated bigotted sleazebags like Marcos making his kind of racist remarks, are part of the problem.
don't waste yer time with the fool.
WHO????
Nov 19th, 2015 - 11:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0When asked if everyone hated Muslims,
absolutely not came the reply ,
Not all Muslims are terrorist,
yet at this moment in time,
all terrorist seem to be Muslim.
Said Who ?
130 Briton
Nov 19th, 2015 - 09:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Not all Muslims are terrorist”
How true that is my friend and yet I am reminded of Mohammed Ali's “University Speeches”.
My, my, my how the world turns. He was talking about “The White man” when he said:-
“Let's say ten thousand rattlesnakes coming to bite me and in that ten thousand, there was one thousand who didn't mean no harm, and I knew there was a good thousand snakes out there. They all look alike so what should I do? Keep the door open and let the ten thousand in, hoping that the thousand will unite and save me even though one bite will kill me? Should I just be safe and shut the door? ”
Just think about the irony of this for one moment and it will make you smile. A muslim talking about the evil that is “The White man” and how easy it would be to use the same words to warn others about “Eeeek!!! a muslim!!”.
Life is funny, no?
When will the western world stop protecting their ally, Saudi Arabia?
Nov 20th, 2015 - 03:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0Saudis spread their brand of intolerant Islam everywhere. Taliban, AlQaeda and ISIS are all Wahhabis. Let us hope the West corrects their mistake ASAP and please USA and UK stop invading countries and replacing their leaders just to serve your special interests.
132 Marcos
Nov 20th, 2015 - 07:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0The West ( are you the 'East'?) are fighting “Taliban, AlQaeda and ISIS”
What are you doing? Nothing.
This is the week in which a bunch of loser jihadists slaughtered 132 innocents in Paris to prove the future belongs to them rather than a civilisation like France.
Nov 20th, 2015 - 03:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well I can't say I fancy their chances. France, the country of Descartes, Boulet, Monet, Sartre, Rousseau, Camus, Renoir, Berlioz, Cézanne, Gauguin, Hugo, Voltaire, Matisse, Debussy, Ravel, Sanson, Bizet, Satie, Pasteur, Molière, Frank, Zola, Balzac, Blanc.
Cutting edge science, world class medicine, fearsome security forces, nuclear power, Coco Chanel, Chateau Lafite, Coq Au Vin, Daft Punk, Zizou Zidane, Juliette Binoche, liberté, égalité, fraternité, and crème brûlée.
Versus what? Beheadings, crucifixions, amputations, slavery, mass murder, medieval squalor, a death cult barbarity that would shame the Middle Ages.
Well IS or Daesh or ISIS or ISIL or whatever name you're going by - I'm sticking with IS, as in Islamist scumbags - I think the outcome is pretty clear to everybody but you.
Whatever atrocities you're currently capable of committing, you will lose.
In 1,000 years' time Paris, that glorious city of lights, will still be shining bright, as will every other city like it.
Andrew Neil BBC
While you will be as dust, along with the ragbag of Fascists, Nazis and Stalinists who have previously dared to challenge democracy and failed.
UK stop invading countries and replacing their leaders just to serve your special interests.
Nov 20th, 2015 - 08:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0should this not be.
Argentina to stop trying invading the Falkland's and replacing their leaders just to serve your special interests.
yep,
we live in very odd times....
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