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Macri slashes agriculture export duties; farmers promise 30% larger crop next year

Tuesday, December 15th 2015 - 08:18 UTC
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Argentina's business friendly president Mauricio Macri, announced on Monday large tax cuts on agricultural exports and emphasizing that “the camp was essential to get Argentina back on its feet”. Macri, who took office Thursday, had promised to slash the steep taxes on agricultural exports, which triggered major protests by producers against former president Cristina Fernandez administration. Read full article

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  • zathras

    Slowly but surely undoing the damage done by KFC to the Argentinian economy.
    We will have to count how many of her policies will be mediated or abolished completely.

    Dec 15th, 2015 - 08:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Skip

    Smart move.

    Increasing the size of an industry by removing burdensome taxes can actually increase the size of the economy and increase the tax take from profits, income tax and sales tax.

    Dec 15th, 2015 - 08:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • tHroUGH_THE_lOOKING_GlASS

    What is “the camp”?

    Dec 15th, 2015 - 08:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Voice

    “The camp” is anywhere outside BA! Nostril, you are ignorant about Argentina and yet you claim to live there! We know you don't, where are you and what institution are you confined in, do tell?

    Dec 15th, 2015 - 09:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • tHroUGH_THE_lOOKING_GlASS

    I still don't know what the Camp is.

    Is that Macri's answer to “La Campora”?

    Dec 15th, 2015 - 09:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Voice

    Idiota! I just told you! Do try to keep up.

    Dec 15th, 2015 - 09:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    We want to buy all the wheat surplus of Argentina. We paid in the currency of Argentina want.

    Only we do not want to buy wheat from 5 Eyes, because besides being a lower quality product can still be contaminated with some poison to harm the Brazilian people.

    Dec 15th, 2015 - 09:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @7 You do know that paranoia is the result of all the drugs you consume, don't you?

    Dec 15th, 2015 - 10:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    I wish it was paranoia. But it is not?

    You are the real enemies of our South American people.

    Dec 15th, 2015 - 10:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #7
    You are well behind the times. We are now the 41 eyes...this even includes Afghanistan.
    In your case, who are “we” ?

    If you have the US dollars, then no doubt Argentina will sell you any surplus if you bid the highest price. Do not ask for credit as a refusal often offends.
    I thought that Brazil was doing a good job of poisoning it's own people.
    Anyway, you told us that you were hardy and used to wallowing in filth and disease.

    Below is a link to a PDF report on Argentinian wheat production. When you have read and assimilated it, please come back with an Intelligent thought...
    although that is asking too much

    ww.google.co.uk/search?sclient=psy-ab&biw=1344&bih=701&noj=1&q=argentine+wheat+quality&oq=argentine+wheat+quality&gs_l=serp.3..0i30.9704.12922.1.15346.9.9.0.0.0.0.97.798.9.9.0....0...1c.1.64.serp..0.9.796.nDt1tfWGL8U

    Dec 15th, 2015 - 10:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    @10
    I do not trust anything that originates in a country of 5 Eyes. Anything!

    Your world is decadent and you and your media will do everything to return to the top.

    Dec 15th, 2015 - 11:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Frank

    Is it just me that has withdrawal issues...
    I'm rather missing my daily issue of 'Comic Cuts' featuring KFC, Bogbrush and Gollum.... used to give me my morning larf
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtXH5w0Q5ug

    Dec 15th, 2015 - 11:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Devonian

    Well that sounds like a very sensible decision. A promising start - let's hope it continues.

    Dec 15th, 2015 - 11:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Skip

    ”the camp was essential to get Argentina back on its feet”.

    Nostrils

    It means the farmers will begin dressing fabulously, livestock will be judged on the glitter scale and barn dances will be replaced by warehouse parties.

    Dec 15th, 2015 - 11:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    #3 Nostils if you lived in Argentina you would know the “camp”

    Bras'ole de Tobi Nostrils is starting to sound very desperate, like the Bolivarian Taliban.

    Dec 15th, 2015 - 12:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Having an “export” tax on anything is nutty. Its one of the reason Argentina has never been able to sell their good competitively.
    It will be interesting to see if this causes more grain growing though, the commodities crash is really just starting.

    Dec 15th, 2015 - 12:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @7. Do you understand that “Five Eyes” is about intelligence co-operation? Probably not. You and intelligence don't seem to have much in common.
    @9. This from someone that, supposedly, lives somewhere that murders more of its own people than anywhere else in the world!

    Dec 15th, 2015 - 01:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    Demand down.

    Supply up.

    Cheap commodities.

    Sounds like a winner for the consumers.

    Dec 15th, 2015 - 02:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • zathras

    17 Conqueror (#)

    Some people, well one nutter really. Stumbled across the Intel gathering wiki and now absolutely everything is about this.
    I suspect he may have read 1984 recently too.

    At least he has not discovered the emergency committee in the UK (military & civilian) is named COBRA. Not after an fictional comics, but you wait he'll make the link.

    I won't be posting for a little while as off on my hols to sunny, ahem northern California. Oh and with the US$1000 cash the UK allows me to keep. In fact within reason I can have any foreign currency I require. How's that work in Argentina?

    Dec 15th, 2015 - 03:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    14 Skip

    Thank you for the massive grin you just gave me!

    Fabulous comment!

    Dec 15th, 2015 - 03:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    Macaroni seems to be adopting a fondness for decrees. Reminiscent of Kentucky Fried Chicken? Obamy? Caesar?

    Dec 15th, 2015 - 04:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Voice

    It amuses me how, in a banana republic like Argieland, the President can just rule by decree! Imagine the uproar if Camoron or Her Maj was to try that? It turns a so called Republic into a dictatorship. If you get a total moron like Cristina in charge the whole place rapidly goes down the pan! Its going to take decades to get Argieland out of the shyte she created!

    Dec 15th, 2015 - 04:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Enrique Massot

    This decision of the Macri government means a transfer of resources, from the public coffers to agricultural producers.
    Macri, who as Chronic noted above, has chosen to govern by decree as much as he can, claims producers will now increase production and pay more taxes, somehow compensating the state for its lost revenue which is problematic at best.
    The move would be an example of the famous “trickle down” theory: If the rich get richer, some wealth would spill down and eventually reach the poor. This, of course, is just a promise never fulfilled.
    The reality is, the reduction in duties will need to be compensated by foreign borrowing, which is already in the cards.
    Former Canadian PM Stephen Harper did a similar thing: lowered corporate taxes starving the state of resources, then produced a series of budget deficits. He was ousted when Canadians realized the economic consequences of such policies.

    Dec 15th, 2015 - 05:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    23. I guess there's still time to get the prize for the stupidest post of the year.
    Keep trying you're almost there.

    Dec 15th, 2015 - 06:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    Enrique,

    You miss the whole point. Argentina will not realize any export tax revenue anyway, if they do not export. The farmers have been holding back under CFK's export laws, simply because they have to offer their products at a very low price to keep their products competitive after the government added the Export Tax. The government was the only one making money on the deal, the farmers got little. The reality, and I'm sure you will agree, was that their labours returned little to them, and the government “re-distributed” what would have been their profits to people who did not work, had jobs in “Nationalised” industries like Aerolineas Argentina, YPF, or eventually trickling down to CFK herself. The Export Tax stagnated industry, reduced Corporate Taxes, Income Taxes, Investment, and added to the rolls of the Unemployed needing government assistance, which with CFK's lower tax base and no foreign investment, led to galloping inflation, and widespread poverty.

    If you take away profit from producers, they have no incentive to produce beyond their own needs.

    If you restrict the ability to export goods, you take away revenue for the country.

    Dec 15th, 2015 - 06:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Zaphod102

    @21 “Macaroni seems to be adopting a fondness for decrees.”

    Given that Congress doesn't meet until March what realistic other option does he have to undo the CFK damage?

    Also, despite some disinformation (aka lies) posted by K supporters Macri has not yet issued more decrees that CFK and he's got some way to go. He's issued about 30 while she issued over 300.

    Also, Macri has repeatedly said that he'll listen to advice or feedback if he makes mistakes so I'm sure he'll reverse some decrees if necessary. What opportunity, never mind possibility, was there to change a CFK decree?

    Either stop complaining about his decrees or push to get Congress back to work sooner!

    Dec 15th, 2015 - 06:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    #23. Reeeekie, you should have probably just quoted me as opposed to characterizing my comments. Looooooooser.

    Dec 15th, 2015 - 07:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Enrique Massot

    #26 Zaphod
    Macri, as most democratic governments have done before him, could have called Congress to extraordinary (recess) session.
    He chose not do do so, and instead is rolling over his program by issuing necessity and urgency decrees.
    That gives him about 80 days until the Congress starts regular session on March 1.
    This is a seldom-exercised constitutional loophole that Macri has used to even resort to the unprecedented step of appointing two Supreme Court judges, which could be illegal.
    “...Macri has repeatedly said that he'll listen to advice or feedback if he makes mistakes so I'm sure he'll reverse some decrees if necessary,” notes Zaphod.
    You may choose faith. As for me, actions speak louder than words.

    Dec 15th, 2015 - 07:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DerkeBlake

    @23 Enrique

    Hello Enrique, I trust you are enjoying the mild Alberta winter thus far.

    I don't think corporate taxes are a legitimate point to explain the rather narrow (39.5% - 33%) Liberal election win.

    The Conservatives (Harper) and Liberals (Trudeau) both promised to reduce the small business tax rate from 11% to 9% (as did the Greens & NDP); and both promised to maintain the current 15% corporate tax rate, down from 21% when Harper introduced his very first budget (and down from 36% in 1980, under Trudeau's father). Those figures don't include an (average additional) provincial rate of 11.3%.

    Unlike the very discernible ideological gorges that distinguish many competing political parties elsewhere in the world; there is hardly an onion-skin's difference between the Canadian Conservatives/Liberals/NDP. They are on the same page on almost everything; all crammed into the mushy-middle, displaying only minimum, superficial differences at most.

    Cheers & have a Merry Christmas,
    D

    Dec 15th, 2015 - 07:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Cuts backs now==jam tomorrow,
    we have seen it all before..

    Dec 15th, 2015 - 08:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Zaphod102

    #28 Enrique

    “This is a seldom-exercised constitutional loophole that ...” ...CFK used over 300 times.

    “...issuing necessity and urgency decrees.” Given the state of the country after 12 years of Kirchner's organised destruction I can imagine that Macri's decrees were very likely urgent and necessary. When the ship is sinking you don't ask for permission to plug the holes, man the pumps etc. you just get on with it!

    “...the unprecedented step of appointing two Supreme Court judges, which could be illegal.” Well, one of them is a Kirchnerite and the other a Radical.

    Were all of CFK's decrees legal?

    “actions speak louder than words.”

    I agree, and his actions so far are a fantastic step in the right direction after the relentless march into criminality of his predecessors.

    Dec 15th, 2015 - 10:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @29 Derke

    As a Liberal voter this time around, I will affirm there is no deep ideological rift between parties.
    The Conservations are pro business, but not radically so. The Loberals are pro business and healthy economy also.

    My friends in the U.S. continue to tell me that even our Cons. are “Lefties”.

    A little perspective never hurts.

    Dec 15th, 2015 - 11:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    25 Troy Tempest
    Best post on this thread.

    Succinct and clear. Excellent.

    Thank You. I wish you were the Finance Minister for Venezuela!

    Dec 16th, 2015 - 01:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    33 ilsen

    Thank you. I always respect your opinions.

    Galbraith in High School and first year Macro Economics at University - pretty basic stuff in the First World.

    I am baffled by the likes of Kicilarf, and Maduro and his bankers...'

    Dec 16th, 2015 - 04:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    @34 Troy T

    “... bankers...”, INDEED!

    Other similar words have crossed my mind, some quite unsalubrious, I am ashamed to say!
    Yet, you are so discreet, and so subtle with your language! (*swoon*).

    “... bankers...”, INDEED! (heeheee!)

    Truly an Educat'd Gentl'Man, unlike this Po'or Flower Girl....
    Please do Thank your Dear Mother for me, having Brung you up So Well, such as not to speak I,ll of such Bounders but to shew them for Such Fools as they Art Be.., by your own clever inter-actions!
    (*curtseys*)
    - ilsen xx

    PS: On another note. I look forward to watching the downfall of these sick bastards who have robbed my children of their heritage. It will take at least two generations to rectify...
    Looking forward to the DEA coming in, but I will never get back what they took from me and family.

    Dec 16th, 2015 - 06:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    Mother is always right, she always knew you were a true lady, Miss Dolittle.

    I know well of your difficult 'beginnings' and your blossoming. You must tell of your latest adventures one day.

    Salut !

    Dec 16th, 2015 - 07:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    @26 lol.

    I could care less about the propriety of Macaroni's rule.

    The country hasn't changed - only the face of it.

    The dirty masses still want their choripan.

    The technocrats and unions still want to be paid like they were actually productive.

    And those is business still want to cheat the government and consumers.

    The Falklands are still the malvinas.

    Albeit the face isn't quite as haggard or delusional but it is just as guilty of pumping sunshine.

    Lol.

    Dec 16th, 2015 - 03:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Enrique Massot

    #29 DerkeBlake
    Derke:
    Good to hear from you!
    I do enjoy the mild--and hope, shorter--Alberta winter, thank you very much.
    You brought good points. I may have oversimplified the causes for Stephen Harper's defeat in the last election.
    But I do believe Canadian voters also became wary of Harper's ruthless ways, his arrogance and controlling behaviour, his cult of secrecy and an absolutely lack of empathy permeating his decisions.
    In spite of presenting himself--as Conservatives do--as an efficient manager, Canadians saw the economy slump while the U.S. surged ahead.
    I agree with you in that both the NDP and the Liberals are pretty tame and status quo.
    Nevertheless, I believe new PM Justin Trudeau represents much better what has made Canada a well-respected country across the world.

    Dec 16th, 2015 - 05:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @38 “ruthless ways, his arrogance and controlling behaviour, his cult of secrecy and an absolutely lack of empathy permeating his decisions”.

    CFK's ruthless ways, her arrogance and controlling behaviour, her cult of secrecy and an absolute lack of empathy permeating her decisions.

    Dec 16th, 2015 - 06:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    38 Enrique,

    I quite agree with you about Harper and the reasons for his defeat. Likewise, I think you are correct about Trudeau and how he represents better, Canada's ideals and Nationsl Identity.

    However, one cannot blame Harper and the Conservatives for the Canadian “economy slump whilst the U.S. surged ahead”.

    Being in Alberta, I am sure you are very aware that Canada is primarily a natural resource/commodity based economy. Good management or bad, all commodities and commodity based economies faced a severe downturn recently, with the weakening of China as a consumer of commodities and the OPEC driven reduction in oil prices, effectively making Canada's products unprofitable to produce. This has resulted in bringing investment to a stop, massive layoffs, and less consumer spending.
    The U.S., on the other hand, is unfettered by this. They enjoy cheap energy and commodities, which is good for their manufacturing industries, and means their consumers have more purchasing power.

    Dec 16th, 2015 - 07:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    I hope Canada isn't counting on the price of oil recovering anytime in the near future.
    Maybe with global warming you can grow more grains.
    :)

    Dec 16th, 2015 - 07:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    Canucks! lol.

    Dec 16th, 2015 - 08:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    41,42,

    Yankeeboy/Chronic,

    What's up ?

    Have you run out of people to attack, so you're provoking Canadians now?

    You seem to have deliberately antagonised every poster you come in contact with, as though you just thrive on controversy.

    You have completely undermined your credibility.

    Dec 16th, 2015 - 09:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • tHroUGH_THE_lOOKING_GlASS

    The United States is a country that has been falling off a cliff since the 60s, all stats point to that. Which is why Americans have become so nationalistic and nasty, when before they were very benevolent and friendly (before the 1980s beloved all over the world): back then they had no insecurities, they knew they were the best, did not have to repeat it to believe it.

    Now they know they have been surpassed by almost everyone in some category, except military which is always a LAGGGING indicator (on the way up and down), so of course they sense this deep insecurity about their waning place in the world and therefore predictably lash out in a fit of psychological self-defense.

    Normal behavior, nothing new. The British are like that too.

    Dec 16th, 2015 - 11:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    @43. Rave on. lol. No one cares.

    Dec 17th, 2015 - 06:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @45

    considering the source, it doesn't mean much.

    Dec 17th, 2015 - 08:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Have I undermined my credibility on an open rant board?
    Have I?

    Aww I'm crushed.
    :(

    Dec 17th, 2015 - 12:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    Here is the thing on Canada:

    Leadership wise some countries punch above their weight class while others punch below theirs.

    Canada occasionally makes an impact internationally but usually not.

    Why do the vast majority of the Canucks live within 100 miles of the border?

    Dec 17th, 2015 - 07:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Skip

    Because it's warmer?

    Ignorant much?

    Dec 17th, 2015 - 07:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    Canucks want all the advantages of proximity to Americans without any of the responsibilities or costs associated with actually being one.

    Few countries benefit so greatly from a relationship with a benefactor as does Canada and yet feel so threatened by that benefactor at the exact same time.

    And most Americans remain blissfully unaware of the seething bundle of insecurity that lies just to its north.

    Dec 17th, 2015 - 10:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @45 47 48 50

    “Rave on. No one cares.”

    Dec 18th, 2015 - 01:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Skip

    Wow Chronic

    Your ignorance is...... all too common.

    So when most of the US population lived closer to the Canadian border then was your same theory in play?

    Look at the historical settlement and density patterns of US population before the invention of air conditioning.

    You take a fact and make up a simple theory. But then being simple you probably thought you'd discovered something amazing.

    But I will agree that most Canadians don't want to be American. You got that very right.

    “Few countries benefit so greatly from a relationship with a benefactor as does Canada and yet feel so threatened by that benefactor at the exact same time.”

    Really?

    Ireland and the U.K.
    Ukraine and Russia.
    Mexico and the US.
    China and Taiwan..... Mongolia..... Japan
    India and Bangladesh.... Sri Lanka..... Nepal
    Argentina and Uruguay

    Your ignorance and parochialism isn't surprising.

    As for your comment about “most Americans remain blissfully unaware” of a neighbouring country, never a truer word spoken. That doesn't reflect badly on Canada though.

    Dec 18th, 2015 - 08:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    Confronting the truth can be painful.

    Dec 18th, 2015 - 08:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #53
    Whose truth ?

    Dec 18th, 2015 - 01:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    One thing I will grant. Canada makes a pretty good pet - even if it is neutered.

    Dec 18th, 2015 - 04:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @55 Chronic

    You seem to re-directing this slug-fest away from the original bone of contention, - you being a prick with your unwarranted, unrelated, off-topic slagging of Canada for no apparent reason, other than your need to be condescending towards others.

    @41,42, YB Chronic
    “I hope Canada isn't counting on the price of oil recovering anytime in the near future.
    ”Maybe with global warming you can grow more grains.
    :)
    42 chronic (#)
    Dec 16th, 2015 - 08:15 pm
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    Canucks! lol.”

    Canada is only mentioned within the context of the article - economic downturn and the global commodities slump. The U.S. is mentioned favourably in the context of being less affected by commodity prices.

    Unless you just had a childish urge to be a dick, I can't imagine why you posted in the first place - but you are doing your best to be divisive and insulting.

    Fortunately, most posters on here with the exception of NOSTRILS, and possibly Enrique, realise that neither of you personas represent the USA and your comments are self-satisfying, worthless distractions.

    You are caricatures of 'The Ugly American' - which would appear to be your mandate.

    Cheers,

    Troy Tempest

    Dec 18th, 2015 - 06:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Oh Troy I've said many times I'm not Chronic.
    I wish I could be that witty and concise.

    Canadians are always so touchy
    I guess it comes from always thinking you're inferior to us.

    Say “about” for us...

    Dec 18th, 2015 - 06:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    57,

    Thanks for making my point

    Dec 18th, 2015 - 06:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    Ouch, something must have hit really close to home. Immaturity is sometimes reflected in the ability to separate personality from discourse.

    Dec 18th, 2015 - 06:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    58. Say “about” for us?
    Come on.

    America Jr.

    Dec 18th, 2015 - 09:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    59,

    Sure, Chronic...

    I suppose that's as close as close as you'll get to an apology...

    Trash Talk ... FTW !!!

    Dec 18th, 2015 - 10:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    American Jr.
    Yes that's all you get
    because that's all you deserve

    Dec 18th, 2015 - 10:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    59, 62 YB/Chronic

    You've been “pawned”, as they say... :-)

    Dec 18th, 2015 - 11:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Retreat Troy..........let him pissed in the wind with itself. The comedic value alone is worth an ocassional return. He sliced himself into several mini me's. Check out the intellectual, yet witty discourse he is having withElainr.....er, I mean the fat assed hag. Words certainly uttered by Buckley, Cato, Burke and Babbitt......and now the colosselly ignorant. Notice similarities of the other xenophobia and jingoists, south or a boarder?
    Seriously though, give him a few pats, he's is in charge of 300......minions now......new job......lolololololol

    Dec 19th, 2015 - 01:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    Now, we have the wee man with the fragile ego weighing in with YB/Chromic - what's with that???

    'Guilt by association' or something more...?

    Chuckle

    Dec 19th, 2015 - 03:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Skip

    Aussies think of our smaller neighbour as our cousins. Funnily enough we also have more in common with Canadians (and they with us) than we do with Americans.

    What I do know is that Kiwis aren't our junior, we don't make ASSumptions thinking they believe themselves to be inferior and nor do we think of them as our pet.

    Cousins. Because family creates a stronger bond than a misplaced superiority complex.

    Dec 19th, 2015 - 09:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    Can't separate your own identity from that of where you're from?

    Classic pathology.

    Dec 19th, 2015 - 07:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Skip

    Yeah I'm from Australia. That's part of my identity.

    Classic idiot!

    Dec 19th, 2015 - 09:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    67 Chronic

    Wasn't it you who was just bragging about your identity and self-worth based on where you're supposedly from?

    What a hypocrite.

    Dec 19th, 2015 - 09:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    Canucks are utterly confused. lol

    What's up with Miss World.

    China refuses Miss Canada admission without explanation.

    Imagine the gall of them.

    Canada is totally disrespected by the Chinese.

    Who do they think they are messing with?

    What will Trudeau do to hold china accountable for this slight?

    lol.

    Dec 20th, 2015 - 04:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    70

    did you really go to all that trouble and waste all that time on behalf of talking to Canadians?

    wow... I feel so important now

    Dec 21st, 2015 - 04:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Skip

    What is Chronic ranting on about now?

    It's like he can't create a coherent argument and stick with it.

    Why do the new guys to this site act like this? You'd think they hung around a bit and felt out the lay of the land before arguing so much.

    Dec 21st, 2015 - 08:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    I've yet to find anyone who knows Canadians, been to Canada or lives next door in the USA have bad things to say about Canadians. It's kind of like trying to make sherriff Andy Taylor into a bad guy. Poor ol Jeff.

    Dec 21st, 2015 - 11:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    Skip & Poppy

    I really have no idea what his problem is.

    Enrique and I were having a discussion about the global commodities downturn, and SA fiscal mismanagement, when YB and Chronic, started slagging Canadians.

    Then Chronic mentions in several posts that Canadians aren't worth bothering and he doesn't care what they think - it's actually quite funny.

    The Limbaugh/Gingrich twins have systematically turned on everyone - they're taking CFK's dethroning and disappearance very hard. They miss her and haven't a clue who to rail against.

    They're as lost as ThinksVoice and his “boy” Kicilof

    Dec 22nd, 2015 - 12:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Skip

    Isn't Chronic a new poster?

    I honestly can't remember ever reading any of his posts. Honestly he hasn't made an impression on me at all.

    But I'll admit that Yankeeboy has taken CFK's electoral loss quite badly. It reminds me of Nostrils and Voice who have obviously been living under the impression that there was some united front that hated Argentina. When the reality (that I, at least, have been operating under) is that we were never united and most are not anti-Argentine.

    Yankeeboy seems to have lost his raison d'être and can only operate if he is attacking someone. Chronic seems to be his cheer squad because he really doesn't have the same force or impact.

    Yankeeboy has run off to lick his wounds but will be back. I wonder if he'll ever reply to this post:
    http://en.mercopress.com/2015/12/15/tragedy-in-north-argentina-bus-runs-off-a-bridge-killing-43-gendarmes#comment424241

    Probably not. Like Nostrils he disappears when the going gets tough.

    Dec 22nd, 2015 - 03:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    He may be licking his wounds but is spirit carries on incognito and via alias. That attack was beyond baseless aside from hate and anger. A strange individual indeed. I've seen a lot and can't recall someone filled with that much hate and anger. I can't narrow in on his age, but he is not an American.

    Dec 22nd, 2015 - 11:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Skip

    Poppy

    If you follow the trail then I do believe he is an American. Before he took this nick he was stupid enough to join this site using his real name and location.

    If you don't believe me, read his comment here:
    http://en.mercopress.com/2010/11/29/cristina-kirchner-clearly-imposes-her-leadership-and-is-frontrunner-for-2011#comment28203

    You can change a name but you can't change an attitude, syntax or language as easily. He still says the same thing 5 years later.

    Fred or Yankeeboy is just shy of 50. For all his supposed genius level intelligence he only ever completed an undergraduate degree at the University of St Louis.

    His bitterness seems to stem from the fact that he measures success by money and assets. Both are tangible and when someone else has more than you then you keep striving for more. It's a competition he can never win.

    Dec 22nd, 2015 - 09:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Because he only possess an undergrad degree makes him less? I am not defending his intelligence as much as I look twice at your statement. As an American when I read his posts, he is incredibly disconnected with the feelings of most Americans if he is an American. But I am convinced he is filled with more hate and anger than I've ever seen. However, being from the midwest I can see that attitude in a 50's white male.

    Dec 23rd, 2015 - 05:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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    Poppy

    I'm not saying having or not having any degree is reflective of abilities. I was pointing it out as an inconsistencies with his proclaimed abilities.

    Supposedly a genius but 30 years after finishing an undergraduate degree he's done what? Not even an MBA?

    He keeps telling me I'm not as smart as I think I am. However I've got the ability to contemplate a double masters already (commencing mid 2018-you read it here first) and the will to go all the way to a PhD.

    See, a goat herder can be a genius. But if all he does is herd goats then what good is it? Yankeeboy equates supposed genius intelligence with some sort of ability or success. But all he does is make money selling real estate.

    However I don't believe his claim anyway.

    For me, I plan on changing something in the world. And I will. It won't be world shaking. But one day somewhere in a city, my idea will change the lives of people. That's how I'll measure my success, not by how much money I make or whether I've met some arbitrary milestone by a certain age.

    And I'm definitely not a genius (not that I've been tested).

    As for his attitude. It is unfortunate that this is a side of the US that many foreigners see frequently. Not because it is common but because it is the loudest and most shrill and hence stands out from the crowd.

    I'm careful not to tar all Americans with the same Yankeeboy brush. It is what his juvenile taunting wants most. To then turn around and say 'see what Aussies really think of us' and cause others to get defensive.

    You can't generalise an entire country because of one arsehole.

    Even one as big as Yankeeboy.

    Dec 23rd, 2015 - 09:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Wonderful clarification and I totally agree with everything that you stated, as I feel much of the same way. I've become jaded and have had a multitude of epiphanies based on my career. I am so sick of the hate from all sides, it repulses me. I know I had impact on the world, but I am far from being convinced it was for the good in the end. Good luck on your path.

    Dec 24th, 2015 - 02:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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