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Brazil's strongest business lobby supports President Rousseff's impeachment

Wednesday, December 16th 2015 - 07:32 UTC
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The all powerful Sao Paulo Federation of Industries, FIESP, formalized on Tuesday its support to the impeachment process against Brazilian president Dilma Rousseff, thus becoming the first business corporation to publicly express such stance that could end with the removal of the head of state of Latin America's largest economy. Read full article

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  • ilsen

    TickTock!!
    ”The decision follows an internal opinion poll ordered by FIESP and which showed that a majority of Sao Paulo business and manufacturers favor the impeachment process.
    “The country is adrift, and there are no attitudes to solve the problems” said Paulo Skaf, FIESP president in a brief release. “The time has come to put EYES on where the problem is. In my view the problem is in the political system”.
    ================
    I think think the 'ayes' have it!

    brasiliero, do the 'eyes' have it? Have you lost?

    Dec 16th, 2015 - 07:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Skip

    Why doesn't she just quit?

    If someone is really this bad for the country they supposedly love above all else, then why do they put their own egos first?

    It is similar to Trump in the US. He can't get past his own ego to see what he is doing to his own party and own country.

    Dilma, Kirchner, Chavez, Maduro, Trump, Putin....... people who will rather destroy the social and economic fabric of their own country rather than their ego.

    Thank Christ I live in a constituonal monarchy.

    Dec 16th, 2015 - 07:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    Mr. Skaf is a whiner who does not want the return of the CPMF so to impede supervision of the IRS on the tax collection base.

    He is a coup leader demoralized from the extreme right parties.

    While Brazilian businessmen linked to agribusiness seeking new markets, innovate and improve productivity, the Brazilian businessman linked to the processing industry is a whiner who lives sucking the Brazilian state and that claims to the color of his girlfriend's panties. Skaf is one of them.

    Day by day the Brazilian agribusiness capitalizes and enriches. Until one day we buy the industries of Brazil and burn people like this guy.

    Dec 16th, 2015 - 09:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @1 ilsen,

    you called, and he came.

    @3 Brassiere,
    “Until one day we buy the industries of Brazil and burn people like this guy.”

    “we” ??? who's that?

    Dec 16th, 2015 - 09:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #4
    I have asked this question also but have never had a reply. Maybe it's the Royal “we”.....A duality .

    Dec 16th, 2015 - 10:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @3. Amazing how he's never been accused of anything corrupt. Unlike virtually everyone in the PT. Are you a member of the PT?

    Dec 16th, 2015 - 12:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    If Dilma quits she'll be in jail, right now she can somewhat control her destiny if she leaves she never will. She could take a runner like the Ukrainian Prez did.

    Skip putting Trump in with a bunch of Socialist Dictators shows how little you know about The USA. Your just embarrassing yourself.

    Dec 16th, 2015 - 01:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @7 It is 'you're'. I just knew you were a Trumpette.

    @2 'Dilma, Kirchner, Chavez, Maduro, Trump, Putin.' Sociopaths one and all. All countries have them and they usually get to the top. The political persuasion is irrelevant to them as long as they can use it to their advantage. Trump scores about as highly as Jeffrey Skilling on the sociopathic scale.

    Dec 16th, 2015 - 02:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    8. Grammar police.
    Yikes you're sad.
    Listen harpy, quit screeching at me and find yourself a man.
    You'll be happier. and we'll all be able to take a breather from your nonsense.

    Dec 16th, 2015 - 03:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @9 You dish it out but you can't take it. I was just surprised at such an obvious error given your claimed that you are 'in the 99.97 percentile for IQ'.

    Dec 16th, 2015 - 04:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    10 Actually witch I don't dish it out.
    You and Pops are attacking me at every post.
    Maybe if you lay off I will

    I was pleasantly surprised with the results. I am being recruited and they're putting me through a number of personality and intelligence tests. It's been a 6 mos process. Now we're just negotiating the pay package.

    Plus I knew if I posted it some idiot would throw it back in my face.
    Guess you're the 1st
    Congratulations

    Dec 16th, 2015 - 05:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @12 I guess an ability to write English was not part of the test.

    Don't play the victim. For far too long you have posted disgusting comments about the poor in Argentina. I hear some companies actively recruit people with personality disorders. A lack of empathy and conscience, combined with the inability to admit responsibility and grandiose bragging, can be powerful in business; though it makes for a thoroughly nasty person.

    I am sure you will be back here to brag about your amazing 'package'. No one will believe you.

    Dec 16th, 2015 - 06:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    You're right! It wasn't part of the test.

    I couldn't care less what you think.
    I never lie.

    Actually empathy was one of the tests and I scored at the top of the chart, They tested me on 5 personality traits, intelligence, thinking ability, stress and management.

    As I stated before your fake compassion is sickening.
    Progs are always revolting.

    I give away my own time and money to others
    Can you say the same?
    Doubt it

    Go find a man that might fix what ails you.
    You come across as a bitter dried up hag.

    Dec 16th, 2015 - 06:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @13 Oh, I am sure you scored brilliantly in your fantasy tests. You are a legend in your own mind.

    You post revolting comments about the most vulnerable people in Argentina. You have demonstrated to everyone how truly awful you are.

    Dec 16th, 2015 - 07:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Elaine, You're worse, every Prog I've ever met thinks they're doing good when in reality they leave a trail of destruction.

    I can look out of my window and see the good I've done in my city.
    Can you say the same?
    Doubt it

    As I've said I never lie. I learned long ago that people always get caught. Nobody on here has ever been able to trip me up. Not once in all the time I've been posting.

    You also think my posts are nasty because you have a very limited ability to think through policy.
    You're like the typical Prog/Dem here in the USA who can't figure out why 40 yrs of paying poor people to stay poor hasn't worked.

    Silly stupid cow.

    Dec 16th, 2015 - 07:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Skip

    Trump definitely deserves to be in the list.

    The list wasn't about where someone sits on the political spectrum but the sort of intolerance they espouse. However Dilma is probably borderline for the list now that I think about it.

    However if the list were to measure economic incompetence then she would be back in a flash. Again Trumo deserves to be there because can already see what he'd like to do to the economy because he wouldn't be able to keep his filthy mouth shut for longer than 5 seconds.

    But I suppose the silver lining is that Trump won't be president.

    Dec 16th, 2015 - 07:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    Although a bit late in my opinion, was glad to see that the FIESP has finally endorsed the impeachment request. Despite Industry being the segment of the economy that has suffered the most with the (PT-made) crisis, and without a doubt will be the one that takes the longest to recover, they remained slient too long. Not saying they didn't complain , or point out the bad situation they were going through, but they took too long to take an official stand against the fat, lying Dilma.
    As to the Skaf being against the approval of the CPMF, just another indecent tax that was created years ago, to finance public health - which never saw one cent of it - Skaf is just one of the 90% of Brazilians who are against it, as it's only purpose is to fill the public coffers so that Dilma and the PT can cover the hole in the budget, and keep on stealing. As to being an instrument to control money flow for IRS purposes, that's a load of baloney. If it were true, tax evasion would have been put an end to when the CPMF was first implemented, in 1993.

    Dec 16th, 2015 - 07:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @15 You are a ridiculous man desperate for validation. You cannot gain respect by bragging about things that you cannot prove you have done. (I suspect they are entirely made up).

    You love to try to deflect when you are caught out letting your true anger and bitterness show in the posts you make. You called for the poor to be denied any financial assistance and - thinking that through - would leave them starving. You call Argentines 'filthy animals' and worse. That makes you a thoroughly nasty person. You had no need whatsoever to make those comments other than out of spite. You failed spectacularly to make a successful life in Argentina so why not just get over it.

    Your insults aimed at me are pointless and pathetic. You spend a lot of time speculating about me but actually know nothing. Carry on making it up because it just reveals more of your revolting personality and your very real problem with women.

    @16 Yes, Dilma is probably borderline. Trump is a complete twat but a dangerous one. It hard to imagine how someone so intellectually stunted and bigoted could be considered as a candidate for leader of the free world. It does not reflect well on the U.S.

    Dec 16th, 2015 - 08:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Skip

    I agree Elaine it doesn't reflect well on the US but this is the sort of polarised politics their winner takes all culture has created. Compromise is seen as weakness not pragramtism.

    However each country has rich idiots that think their 'experience' directly translates. We have Clive Palmer. There must be a certain trait that attracts rich wankers to extreme politics.

    Anyway I don't need to tell you that high IQ or not, if someone can only argue with someone by restoring to ad hominems of “silly stupid cow” or feel the need to guess/accuse you of having a fat arse..... well they already lost the argument really.

    I guess Nostrils isn't alone now in telling everyone how intellectually superior he is.

    Dec 16th, 2015 - 08:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    Big dog fight! I satisfy myself with the bones.

    Tomorrow I write about the loss of investment grade of the Brazil.

    I just want to warn you that already produces pumps and chemical powders that can be sent over the net.

    hahaha

    Dec 16th, 2015 - 08:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @19 Yes, politics has become a team game for some in America.

    “There must be a certain trait that attracts rich wankers to extreme politics. ” I think that comes back to their personality disorders. Look up the traits of a sociopath/psychopath and you have a personality description of a lot of successful people. They can focus on success/winning without that conscience or concern for others getting in the way. They are not all bad by any means but when they have the grandiose trait and are so rich and powerful, they tend to develop a messiah complex.

    @20 What?

    Dec 16th, 2015 - 08:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    @21 Just a Brazilian saying: “Briga de Cachorro Grande” = Big dog fight = Superpowers fighting among themselves.

    Dec 16th, 2015 - 08:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @22 “I just want to warn you that already produces pumps and chemical powders that can be sent over the net.” This?

    Dec 16th, 2015 - 08:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    Ah. This is a joke! I said that we might laugh. Only

    Dec 16th, 2015 - 08:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @24 Ah, O.K. It must have been lost in translation.

    Dec 16th, 2015 - 08:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    You're being polite. Thank you!

    Dec 16th, 2015 - 09:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    @24 BRasshole
    Really funny.....when are we supposed to start laughing ?

    @25 Elaine
    His translations are pretty weak......but 'pumps' in Portuguese would be “bombas”, which can be translated back to English as 'bombs'......as for chemical powders, maybe his sick mind is thinking he can send 'anthrax' over the internet.....he's gone daft. But maybe he should spill some onto his keyboard, then snort it up.

    Dec 16th, 2015 - 09:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @27 I am sure you already know that a number of different people use the Brasileiro log-in. I can't imagine why they can't have their own individual accounts. When I asked why, the response was that they were a gang of like-minded people. Again, why not have their own accounts? It does explain the variation in lucidity and competence in English.

    Dec 16th, 2015 - 09:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    We are a family. An agricultural cooperative. We have desires and virtues. We have shortcomings and ignorance.

    We love for what we plant and harvest. We fear God. And we're happy!

    We have won so much money that maybe our grandchildren will know not pronounce that word.

    I'm sorry for my ignorance!

    Dec 16th, 2015 - 09:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @29 Brassiere

    “We have shortcomings and ignorance.”

    Here, let me fix that for you,
    “We have shortcomings, a political agenda, and spew ignorance.”

    Dec 16th, 2015 - 11:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Skip

    Brasileiros are all from a “family” that's is an “agricultural cooperative” and they “fear God”.

    Sounds like a cult to me.

    And would explain so much.

    But worse..... they're breeding.

    Dec 16th, 2015 - 11:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    Who has political agenda is you. We work, we produce, sell, suffer to receive and we will always support those who facilitate our work, development, dreams and achievements.

    Dec 16th, 2015 - 11:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Skip

    So you are just like us.

    Dec 17th, 2015 - 01:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    33

    except that they're a “family” in the same way Manson had a “family”

    Dec 17th, 2015 - 03:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Skip

    Dumda Dee Dumm *click *click

    Dec 17th, 2015 - 08:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    @28 Elaine
    I'm quite aware of the fact that name “Brasileiro” covers more than one moron. Why they don't have individual accounts is a good question, but perhaps it's because aren't intelligent enough to post sensibly on a regular basis.... and that they only have one computer between them.
    The fact that he claims to be part of an agricultural coop, is probably true, but I don't see him becoming a millionaire from it.

    @30 Troy/ @31 Skip
    They can choose to fear whoever they want, but whom they should fear is the PT....but they, as he confirms, are too ignorant to realize when they are being manipulated.
    After you have met a few 'petistas', and have experienceed first-hand what a bunch of ignorant, radical morons they are, and the mess they have caused in Brazil, will you understand why I despise them so much. Basically, if they defend Dilma and Lula, to form an accurate opinion on them is not very hard.

    Dec 17th, 2015 - 08:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Skip

    We have the same people in Australia. Thankfully our economy and social system makes them the kooks here and keeps them far away from any power.

    Dec 18th, 2015 - 07:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0

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