In a Christmas message to Falkland Islanders, UK Prime Minister David Cameron is hopeful that the election of a new Argentine president “will allow us to move towards a more mature relationship”. Read full article
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This idiot can jabber on all he likes but the EU have just broken him into two parts: dumb and dumber.Dec 18th, 2015 - 10:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Osborne is the new power and he's an avid euro idiot, just so he can keep his job.
The referendum will not happen or be a fix to keep the status quo.
I have been a Conservative voter all my life until these idiots arrived. The Blessed Margaret must be spinning like a top at these useless bastards.
Best thing for the Falklands is to work toward full independence once the oil money rolls in and leave the UK to be a paid mercenary force for protection only.
#1Dec 18th, 2015 - 11:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Got out of bed on the wrong side this morning? :-p
Cameron is a bit useless, I agree, but his incompetence will work in favour of BREXIT because many people can see his sham renegotiation for what it is. He is the greatest asset to the out camp, ahead of Juncker and Schultz. If it is any comfort, once he loses the referendum and the UK breaks free of the EU, his position will be untenable and dozy Dave will have to resign.
@ 2 Chris01Dec 18th, 2015 - 12:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
The referendum will not happen or be a fix to keep the status quo.
Check out the 'little stunts' that are being put in place to negate the result if it's likely to be an 'out' result.
If Camoron is still in place and the populace think or decide there has been a fix to stay in then all bets are off. Even the most Con-centric poll is showing 50/50.
Check out Camorons CV prior to becoming Leader, it's like going back into the end of the 19th century to select a 'leader'. The reason The Blessed Margaret was so good she knew how to say NO, not only to Denis when she had a headache but to stupid ideas, the unions, and cunts like Camoron. She, of course, came from a relatively lowly background and completed a chemistry degree AND ran a large section of a serious business prior to entering politics.
Camoron wasted his time at Brasenose obtaining a first-class honours degree in philosophy, politics and economics because he appears to have forgotten the context or is just incapable of applying it.
The day he was scheduled for a job interview at the Conservative Central Office, a man from Buckingham Palace, called the CCO, put in a good word for Cameron. According to a March 2007 Daily Mail article, the testimonial, of which Cameron was unaware, was an early intimation of how the ambitious Etonian was helped by well-placed friends and family.
In 1994, Cameron left politics to work as the director of corporation affairs at Carlton Communications, a British media company. He resigned from that role in 2001 in order to continue his pursuit of a Parliamentary seat, which he won, representing the Oxfordshire town of Witney. [bio.]
Even the bloke who worked in a circus had more about him than this twat.
PS I DO hope you are correct in your final paragraph, it's just that I do not trust him at all.
Islanders, - Take anything DC says with a pinch of salt. He did everything he possibly could to woo us Scots last yera in our Indy referendum, (and the illegal stuff they did - Ruth Davidson - vote sampling - Police investigation)Dec 18th, 2015 - 01:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
He does not care about the Falkland islands - Only the wealth you can generate.
Thats why he can not let Scotland go.......
Go for your own independence - You Islanders do not need the UK.
Oh, my. Margaret Thatcher was of her time. The right leader for that moment in history. Like Churchill she would never be elected now. (If they were alive and in their prime, as it were).Dec 18th, 2015 - 01:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Still, no need for you to worry, Chris, you can see out your senility in Uruguay making up stupid nicknames for everyone like you are in a sixth form common room. One would think at your advanced age that you would have the ability to disagree with someone's politics and make a good argument against it.
I am no fan of Cameron but what is wrong with his C.V.? Do you have education envy or is it the fact that he had a better job than you that you can't stand?
The UK should never have been part of the expanded EU. Its all well and good to have an FTA with them but that's all.Dec 18th, 2015 - 01:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
The EU is going to break apart soon enough it won't look like it does now in 5 years. It should only have ever been a free trade zone.
You can't have a uber government and nation states existing at the same time.
It will never work in the long run and the long run is running out now.
The UK should get out now while it still has time.
Free Trade also does not work between nations, it's been proven time and time again that eventually imbalances occur and the deal is abrogated. Tell me of a free trade-agreement that has lasted more than 40 years.Dec 18th, 2015 - 01:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
No point getting your knickers in a twist . All will be revealed prior to the referendum.Dec 18th, 2015 - 02:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Our Dave would be well advised to follow the sentiments of this song.......
You've got to know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em,
Know when to walk away, know when to run.
You never count your money when you're sittin' at the table,
There'll be time enough for countin' when the dealin's done.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jj4nJ1YEAp4ealed in time
@1, 3. You don't really have much idea of government, politics or diplomacy, do you? I've noticed this in many of your comments. Head down, barge in with not an ounce of finesse.Dec 18th, 2015 - 02:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Five years of being undermined and frustrated by traitors like Cable and Clegg. It's easy enough to see the ideal politician/statesman as someone like Churchill. But Churchill failed many times until he was selected to lead the nation, the ones who stuck in Britain, through World War 2.
You haven't even stuck in Britain. Do you get the same intelligence, information, guidance, advice he does? Your view is based on something incomplete.
There have been a number of things that David Cameron has done with which I do not agree. I don't even agree with his view about British membership of the EU. But he has a right to his view. Or belief. Isn't it right that British people should stay in Britain and support their country? What are you doing in Uruguay? Where your views of the British political scenario are irrelevant. Do you care about British people? Then why did you leave?
@4. In reality, the UK government acted with morality. Would have been too easy to cast off the worthless.
@6. You should note (research) that the USA wanted the UK to be part of the EU. Still does. Perhaps if the USA were to offer the UK a trade agreement for the UK's benefit. Britain fought for the freedom of the world while the USA cowered behind thousands of miles of ocean. Britain said Give us the tools and we will finish the job. The USA said that it would be the arsenal of democracy. Yet the USA made the UK pay for every bullet.
We will do what is good for us. Shoot treacherous Corbyn. Build our own missiles. Dump worthless F-35Bs in the ocean. Demand unimpeded technology transfer. How much of your technology is sourced from BaE anyway? Have you seen how your Navy had to ask our Type 45 destroyers to switch off their systems in an exercise to give you a chance?
As long as British military vessels entering Argentine waters and fisheries cooperation is out of the question (cased closed and nothing to be discussed), then Macri can go ahead and talk with Cameron. I don't think anything that threatens Argentina's safety and sovereignty if those two issues are off the table.Dec 18th, 2015 - 02:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Chris is trying to make the point that Britain suffers from a plague of PPE graduates running things that have little real world work experience. This, and priveliged backgrounds mean that some of them are incapable of understanding the life lead by most people and what it means to be poor.Dec 18th, 2015 - 02:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Nostril.. SHUT UP! Like CFK you are an impediment to sensible respectful relations.
What exactly did I say that was so unsensible?Dec 18th, 2015 - 02:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
We don't want British guns in your ports, seems reasonable enough.
Argentine waters and EEZ are Argentine. Case closed. Seems reasonable enough.
12. There wouldn't be anything Argentina could do about it if they wanted to sail right up the RDP and park right in BA.Dec 18th, 2015 - 02:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
No one thing.
@13Dec 18th, 2015 - 02:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
There wouldn't be one thing if Russia tonight decided to vaporize you.
No one thing.
So... what's the point.
14. That is simply not true.Dec 18th, 2015 - 03:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
@9. Concur. FDR should be dug up and burnt. Hindsight gives pretty good clarity. Swing by in the time machine and pick up my young self and we can go back and fix WWII.Dec 18th, 2015 - 03:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
A long time ago a read a study that wanted all English speaking countries to form a trade/political block because when there's a global downturn English speaking countries do better than anyone else but when there's an upturn we do much much better than anywhere else.Dec 18th, 2015 - 03:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
I've long thought the UK and USA should have an FTA. I think our exports are too alike for that to ever happen though.
I said before FDR was a terrible Prez he was a traitor to his class and put the USA on a unsustainable welfare state path. The Progs never learn their good intentions always end up destroying what they were trying to help.
@9. Oh and just before we desecrate FDR - what do you want to do with Neville Chamberlain?Dec 18th, 2015 - 03:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
3Dec 18th, 2015 - 04:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Did you think that one through Chris....?
Which would be more useful to lead a country...a degree in chemistry or perhaps something in the Social Sciences...I don't know..maybe Politics...Economics...Philosophy even... understanding reason and logic...
Possibly even a background in Media might help...
All PM's select experts in their field to run a country...
Leading a team is all they need to do....
NostrilsDec 18th, 2015 - 04:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Tell me of a free trade-agreement that has lasted more than 40 years.
New Zealand Australia Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA), which was signed on 31 August 1965 and came into force on 1 January 1966. It was replaced by the Australia New Zealand Closer Economic Relations Trade Agreement (ANZCERTA) which came into force on 1 January 1983
So that is 50 years in 12 days.
@19 ..and you have that well known blathering economic genius pulling Nichola's strings and lots of low value oil. Good luck with that. As for Scotch project management and cost control thats a nice parliament you have :-))))Dec 18th, 2015 - 04:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
And, the Halifax quality of life survey shows where the best places to live are and not one is in your country???? You dont need a second home if you live in the best place already but its nice to have one anyway :-)))) But if you live in a damp dump you do need it to get away…
It's rather sad to compare the expansive empire that was Britain in the 19th century with the proper little finance house that the City is today.Dec 18th, 2015 - 05:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
The City, the financial part is only about 10% of our economy. London is about 20%. We were big in colonialism but whats left, mainly islands depends on us rather than us depending on them. Some, like the Falklands are virtually independent. The age of colonialism is over. Its nice to travel and see the remnants of it, some good and some bad. It seems odd to Britons that some people around the world still hark back to those days. As far as the Nazis are concerned we have moved on, except in a few places where their ideology still clings on… Its not sad, its dead and buried by the British at least.Dec 18th, 2015 - 05:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
21Dec 18th, 2015 - 06:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
It does not take a genius to see that all the money in Britain is in the South of England which makes life a lot easier for people living there. Better housing, infrastructure, higher wages etc. Isn't it telling that hardly any places in the NE and NW of England made it into the list either....only Hambleton
However, another pole has a completely different result...
Scotland comes out well with Edinburgh the top place.
Or you could try the Tory rag...the Telegraph
I am sure that this will disappoint you, having a complete dislike for Scotland and the Scots in general. However, thousands of your compatriots are beating a path North to get away from the overcrowded and polluted South causing an increase in property prices here.
Just a point, but Dunoon and the Cowal peninsula is a pleasant area in which to live. Since the American base closed, it has become a much better area.
Yes, it has a high rainfall but this benefits some of the best gardens in the UK
I note finance only as it is one of the few areas where the UK has recently distinguished itself on a global basis.Dec 18th, 2015 - 06:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
@ 5 ElaineBDec 18th, 2015 - 06:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Sexism insult right from the get-go as usual and commenting on ‘stupid’ nicknames. I have a stupid name for you: it’s ElaineB and the attributes are rampant feminism, inability to keep to what a poster has posted and lying through her teeth in a feeble attempt at appearing intelligent.
BTW the sixties Quantesque bottle blond hairstyle and brown or black hair-band in your poorly exposed selfie is comical in the extreme AND you claimed on here you are not middle aged: another lie then. You know what I told you about being 50, don’t you and that photo clearly shows you to be 50? Now we KNOW where all the tantrums are coming from.
As usual you missed the point of my post due to the red mist coming down when you saw my nick so have a look at 11 The Voice who managed to see what I meant, but there again he doesn’t have issues like you have.
As for your final paragraph! Oh dear, another miss at the target, clearly you have no idea what qualifications a Chartered Engineer must have. Is there ANYTHING that you do know, it seems not and I thought you claimed to be in education, or was that a lie as well?
@ 9 Conqueror
“You don't really have much idea of government [thank the sky fairy], politics [industrial and business politics very much so] or diplomacy [not when Camoron has sunk my party – which I am sure was YOUR party], do you? I've noticed this in many of your comments. Head down, barge in with not an ounce of finesse.” LOL!!!
Have you had a brain transplant? YOU telling me that as if you are not a head-banger, ex HMRC “I am above the Law” HM Customs Officer? Do us all a favour and go back to your usual “hang, draw and quarter them oh, you have in your second sentence, final paragraph with Shoot treacherous Corbyn”, ha, ha, ha.
You KNOW why I left the UK, it was primarily for the health of my wife so stop doing an 'ElaineB' and lying through your teeth about it.
ChrisR - you are a buffoon!Dec 18th, 2015 - 07:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Cameron has sent a message to Argentina in exactly the right terms and it is up to Argentina to behave accordingly.
Munching popcorn and warming myself via the meltdown.Dec 18th, 2015 - 07:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
I don't know whose photo you have been looking at but it is not me. Are you sure you were not looking in the mirror? Is that where you have been all day? Trying to find a photo of me? It is more than a little creepy, old man.Dec 18th, 2015 - 07:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Bless you that you think you are somehow better qualified to run the U.K. than Cameron and better qualified to deal with the unions than Macri. You have a hugely inflated opinion of yourself when, in fact, you are doing nothing but rotting in Uruguay moaning about Argentina and the UK.
This is fun.Dec 18th, 2015 - 07:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Guess I'll have a Coke and some Gummi Bears before the feature starts.
Any one have any actual ideas on the world and the events as they unfold?
Clyde, dont take me too seriously. I am familiar with the area and have nipped up Ben Lomond quite a few times, good training for the easy bits of Torres del Paine! And all the islands are faniliar to me as well. I realise all these surveys are very subjective and depend on what sort of elements of lifestyle you value the most. I have many Scottish pals not far from Dunoon. A lot of them remember Billys view of it. It just amazes me that some people up there are such prize arses, but those sorts are everywhere I guess. Happy Hogmanay!Dec 18th, 2015 - 07:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
@ 29 ElaineBDec 18th, 2015 - 07:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
The problem with liars or 'interpreting the post in a way not intended”, as you have done again is that eventually nobody believes anything they post. That is where you are with me.
I never claimed I could run the UK better than Camoron, WHO would want to do that job other than a politician? Nor did I claim I could handle Argy unions better than Macri - but heh, why let the truth get in the way of what you think?
The only person on here with an inflated opinion of themselves is you.
But thank you for your kind thoughts! LOL
@ 27 gordo1
Another one that misses the point (but not through lying I must say) and immediately shoots off an insult.
Well, you started it, but I will refrain, I will just 'pat you on the head' and say there, there, you must try harder.
Oi Chronic - yes you!Dec 18th, 2015 - 07:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Coke! Popcorn! Gummy Bears?
You are no doubt on of those rather, ahem, FAT, Americans that one dreads sitting next to on a plane? :-))))
@32Dec 18th, 2015 - 07:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
What a sick, sick, sick old man you are, ChrisR . Imagine trawling the internet looking for a photo just to make disparaging and sexist remarks about someone. It says a lot about the lowlife you are. The poor woman - whoever she is - you were taunting about her hair and age is someone's wife, mother, sister, child. You should be heartily ashamed of yourself. Don't you feel like a complete twat for posting that?
All this because I showed you up for the idiot you are. You think calling someone a feminist is an insult? I explained to you in very simple terms what feminism is so why is wanting equal opportunities and rights for women abhorrent to you? Are you so insecure?
By the way, trying to imply I must be suffering from a hormone imbalance just because I disagree with you makes you look even more like a knuckle-dragger.
Actually I'm a bit of a hard body - but not by choice though. It's getting harder and harder to keep up on the polo pitch so I've had to pretty much watch everything I eat.Dec 18th, 2015 - 07:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Also, you won't be sitting beside me on the plane unless I invite you onboard.
And yet you're on here just like the rest of us.Dec 18th, 2015 - 07:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
36. Guilty passion. I love choripan & polo and argentina's is the best.Dec 18th, 2015 - 07:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
@ 34 ElaineBDec 18th, 2015 - 07:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
You can lie and obfuscate the truth as much as you like but it won't wash.
Keep on with the insults, it makes you look like the true feminist that you claim to be.
How's the blood pressure? There has to be a health reason for you foolish and untruthful replies.
Calm down people.Dec 18th, 2015 - 07:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Nothing wrong with the message he sent,can't imagine what Red Corbin would have said.
I don't agree with Camaron on everything but come on he is not that bad.
In comparison to some of the PM,s in the last 60 years he is quite good.
Given the oil price Scotland made the right decision,the people decided and made the right choice in my opinion,it was up to people that live in Scotland.Edinburgh is a great city.
@38 Yes, I am a feminist, I want equal rights and opportunities for women. Why don't you? Why don't you want that for women?Dec 18th, 2015 - 07:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Obviously you are feeling embarrassed about your massive mistake and I am glad to have humiliated you. Old pervert.
will allow us to move towards a more mature relationship”.Dec 18th, 2015 - 08:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Like he has just done with our masters in Europe,
1 ChrisRDec 18th, 2015 - 09:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
The referendum will not happen or be a fix to keep the status quo.
Course it won't!!! Or, if it does, there will be ballot box rigging ( a la Thanet South election ) and then the victory through postal votes ( a la Eastleigh by election ) and please do NOT try and tell me that both of those results were not rigged, 'cos they were.
No, Dave is campaigning for an In vote and an In vote he shall get, by fair means or foul, he dare not go against the will of his masters in Brussels.
Our vote does not matter any more!!
Our voice will not be heard!!
The French pulled some dirty tricks to deny 27% of their population a voice at their last polling day. This is the sort of monster we are up against and our PM has no backbone and a yellow streak a mile wide!!
We are all doomed!!!
@35 Wow you have your own jet! You love Choripan! I'm impressed… trust it has a wide body :-)))))Dec 18th, 2015 - 09:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Elaine has gone after me with the same tired diatribe. She's nothing more than a dried up bitter old hag with nothing to offer but lies and deliberate distortions of what people post.Dec 18th, 2015 - 09:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
@44 Elaine is picking on poor me Grow up yankeeboy. You are usually smiling when you write about starving the 'filthy animals' - your words for the poor in Argentina. Did I wipe the smile off your face?Dec 18th, 2015 - 09:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Tiresome cow, as you've seen I've not back down. I am just pointing out that YOU USE THE EXACT SAME DIATRIBE or I will say SCREECHING against me and Chris.Dec 18th, 2015 - 09:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Its obvious to everyone but you that you have a problem with men.
Maybe if they were starving they'd figure out how to work instead of getting gov't handouts and robbing people. I stand by that statement and I couldn't care less what you think.
Trying to shame me into saying something I don't believe won't work
Progs are all the same.
@45 ElaineBDec 18th, 2015 - 09:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Go for the jugular - you have my support!
Somebody who is as erudite, knowledgeable and well travelled as ElaineB can hardly be ”a dried up bitter old hag with nothing to offer but lies and deliberate distortions of what people post.
47. If you can't see it I can't help you. Flowery words hide her evil stench believe me. She's nothing more than a Think type. Don't be fooled.Dec 18th, 2015 - 09:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Go back and read the nonsense she's posted about me and Chris over the last few days.
She an unhinged evil old hag.
@46 I don't have a problem with men. I have a problem with you and ChrisR. That is two men. You in no way represent men in general, just a dying breed of misogynist old codgers.Dec 18th, 2015 - 09:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Maybe if they were starving they'd figure out how to work instead of getting gov't handouts and robbing people.
You are revolting and stupid to think that is the reality. Good to see you showing your lack of compassion, it is one of the traits of NPD
Stupid Prog that is the reality.Dec 18th, 2015 - 09:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
You have a problem with men and it is clear to everyone but you.
I can almost guarantee I'm younger than you
dried up old hag
O negócio tá feio, moderador! Faça alguma coisa!Dec 18th, 2015 - 10:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
@50 Hahaha. Crying victim again. Your own words condemn you.Dec 18th, 2015 - 10:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
I owned my words or can't you read?Dec 18th, 2015 - 10:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
@53 I said they condemn you.Dec 18th, 2015 - 10:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Only if I didn't believe them, stand by them and repeat them.Dec 18th, 2015 - 10:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
You've wasted your life thinking you help people only to leave a wake of destruction in your path.
You really are reminding me of Think.
Bitter alone lonely sad...yet haughty and single-minded enough to believe the nonsense you write.
Erm.. Save it for the trolls.. Matter of fact, where are the trolls?Dec 18th, 2015 - 10:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
That witch has been trolling me for a week.Dec 18th, 2015 - 10:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
I can't shake her.
Liberals will try to shame you into admitting you're wrong. They get unhinged when you don't just roll over and agree with the nonsense.
I have always stood by everything I write
Not only because I believe it
but because its correct
with history and facts to back it up.
@57 Yes stand by your disgusting comments and they condemn you as a disgusting man. (You do understand the meaning of condemn?)Dec 18th, 2015 - 10:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
You've wasted your life thinking you help people only to leave a wake of destruction in your path.
Absolute fantasy and nothing to do with my life. However, it speaks volumes about your wasted life. How many years did you waste in Argentina before you went home with your tail between your legs?
You dried up old hag, I've said many times that I was basically on vacation the whole time I was in Argentina. I didn't work. Why the heck would anyone work for Pesos? I came back to the USA when the filth, corruption and violence got too much for me to stand.Dec 18th, 2015 - 10:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
As I said on another thread, I don't lie so you can't trip me up and no matter how much you change my posts or add/delete words to fit your arguments it won't work.
You live in a fantasy world not me.
I think you started trolling me when I figured you werea a fat assed BA stewardess.
I'm guess that hit a bit too close to home...thats when you became unhinged.
@59 I think you started trolling me when I figured you werea a fat assed BA stewardess.Dec 18th, 2015 - 11:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
There you go again with your projecting your own life experiences - limited though they are. Did a female member of the cabin crew turn you down and you couldn't handle the rejection? (Another NPD trait). Now all BA female cabin crew are 'fat assed'. That is what you said. You said ALL B.A. stewardesses have 'fat asses'. You are showing your age there - they haven't been called stewardesses for decades.
You do not possess the intelligence or life experience to guess my profession.
By the way, if you genuinely had any positive relationships with women, you would not use the language you do and you would not think feminism was an insult. As I said before, you own words give you away.
Well Chris has been married a long time and you tell him the same exact thing...Dec 18th, 2015 - 11:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Pretty sure I never said all, just you Elaine, just you.
And no I would never ever date a stewardess...
And no I was not jilted in BA
Good gracious you think a lot about me...
I don't like big boned, butch haircut, no make up, man hating feminist with a chip on their shoulders
To all this, I opened a special bottle, Cabernet franc 88% - 10% Malbec - 2% Tempranillo.Dec 18th, 2015 - 11:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Let summer begin and yes in three weeks my annual 7 day vacation arrives. Can't wait to enjoy the time.
More popcorn please. And hold the butter.Dec 18th, 2015 - 11:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
,Cameron said he would take the following to Brussels:Dec 19th, 2015 - 12:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0
The Key points that names the price for Britain to stay part of Europe are:
Forcing Brussels to make “an explicit statement” that Britain will be kept out of any move towards a European superstrate. This will require an exemption for the UK from the EU’s founding principle of “ever closer union”.
An “explicit statement” that the euro is not the official currency of the EU, making clear that Europe is a “multi-currency” union. Ministers want this declaration in order to protect the status of the pound sterling as a legitimate currency that will always exist.
A new “red card” system to bring power back from Brussels to Britain. This would give groups of national parliaments the power to stop unwanted directives being handed down and to scrap existing EU laws.
A new structure for the EU itself. The block of 28 nations must be reorganised to prevent the nine countries that are not in the Eurozone being dominated by the 19 member states that are,
Apart from the confusing element of what details may or may not be issued to A) the general public and B) Brussels – there is, in the space of just about one month a huge shift in this policy.
All of a sudden there is no “forcing Brussels” to make an explicit statement about anything, let alone Britain’s exclusion from the EU superstrate. There is no mention of the demand that the Euro is not the official currency of the EU
Or indeed explicitly confirming the status of the pound Sterling. There is no mention of bringing back powers to Britain, and no mention that the 19 member states within the Eurozone cannot dominate over the nine that are not.
The only point in the “Price of Britain to stay in Europe” is the requirement of an exemption for the UK from the EU’s founding principle of “ever closer union.”
We are being conned, but will the people listen,
When Germany France and the rest, the president and others pilling on the pressure
It’s our vote not
@62 Peronist K supporter,Dec 19th, 2015 - 04:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0
To all this, I opened a special bottle, Cabernet franc 88% - 10% Malbec - 2% Tempranillo.
Let summer begin and yes in three weeks my annual 7 day vacation arrives. Can't wait to enjoy the time.
In Canada, Desert Hills winery in the Okanagan Valley is producing excellent Cabernet Franc. I'm enjoying some right now. The whole valley is perfect for producing Pinots, Cab Francs, and award winning Merlots.
In Australia, if I recall, the government mandates generous Maternity Leaves, and at least 4 or 5 werks of paid holidays a year.
I'm sure Skip knows the details.
Not sure what you are excited about. You sound like you are being short-changed.
Enjoy your 2 day bus ride. Hope you don't get Shingles from the last person to sleep in the unclean sheets.
Italy to claim Canada:Dec 19th, 2015 - 04:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
66Dec 19th, 2015 - 05:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0
it's a non-political story
Why TroyDec 19th, 2015 - 06:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Thank you for that introduction. Ahem.....
You are correct, full time working Australians are guaranteed a minimum 20 days annual leave a year. Also 10 sick leave days. And I think 10 public holidays.
40 days all up. Or TWO MONTHS.
We work for 43-44 weeks a year. Nostrils crows because he works 51 weeks a year.
Maternity Leave is 18 weeks for the primary carer. 2 weeks for the non-primary carer. Regardless of sex or married status for both. Mind you this payment is at the minimum wage. Mind you that is A$656.90 or A$17.39 per hour.
I always laugh at Nostrils' annual week off. Mostly because he races back here afterwards for a reaction.
Some will call my country socialist because of these rights. I'm happy to wear that monicker because I think that rights like these should exist. I am especially proud of our minimum wage as it is considered a living minimum wage so we don't have working poor.
Argentina's equivalent works out at A$3.35.
The US equivalent is A$10.10.
Ours is the highest in the world.
Supposedly socialists ruin countries. Supposedly....
Noble SkipioDec 19th, 2015 - 07:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Thanks for the details.
What a contrast - the Socialist Utopia of Argentina vs the callous oppression of the Capitalist Overlords of Australia!
I'm waiting to hear NOSTRILS and the ensuing spin...
Nostrils stays on topic about as much as diarrhoea can be pinned to a wall.Dec 19th, 2015 - 08:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0
@70Dec 19th, 2015 - 08:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0
As an Ozzer, seems you have done plenty of research in this field.
@71 New Unknown PosterDec 19th, 2015 - 09:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Welcome friendly stranger. Enjoy our wine and fruits. Oh no, forget it, I know our fruits don't like you.
Thank you, I am new to this forum, just getting settled in.Dec 19th, 2015 - 09:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Huh...what time is it...?Dec 19th, 2015 - 10:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Is everyone in the UK now...?
@64. So the goals of WWII Germany are realized in fully integrated europe vis a vie the EU only it's a bit more of a polyglot?Dec 19th, 2015 - 03:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
The deal for the UK was done months ago when Merkel visited Cameron at Chequers. What is happening now is a charade, a punch and judy show for the ignorant and uneducated to show that Cameron is working hard for a good deal for the UK.Dec 19th, 2015 - 11:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
He will use every trick in the book to try and keep us in the EU and unfortunately many people are going to fall for it.
Brussels knows that if we go, this will start a domino effect. Its like a boy band, when the maverick rogue leaves the group, the others keep going for a while and then it all falls apart.
I think as regards the current posturing over the Falklands, both sides are setting their stalls out and letting the other know where they stand. The last 10 years should however have shown Macri where Kirchner policies got them.
The EU won't fall apart because the UK leaves. Pure hubris.Dec 20th, 2015 - 09:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0
It's departure might change the EU permanently but it won't cause it to fail. If anything it will cause it to succeed more.
As long as we are not part of it,Dec 20th, 2015 - 07:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
the EU seems dead bent on destroying everything British,
the sooner we get out the better.
that's my opinion.
The EU, as an uber-nation will go down in history as a failure. I hope the UK votes to exit this year. It never should have been more than part of a free trade zone.Dec 20th, 2015 - 08:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
I'd watch Italy its mighty shaky.
They do nothing but interfere with our laws , way of life and what we do,Dec 20th, 2015 - 08:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
they are like loan sharks, they give nothing but take it all,
and Cameron is frankly just embarrassing us, if he crawls much more upwards he will be hanging out of the Germans backside..
Remember bureaucrats are terrified of becoming irrelevant.Dec 20th, 2015 - 08:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
They must make rules and regs or what else are out of a job
that's their whole reason for existance, the only reason they get up in the morning
to make other people's lives more difficult and costly
True.Dec 20th, 2015 - 08:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
TWIMC...Dec 20th, 2015 - 10:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Always wondered why, some of the habitué beacons of Engrish, Kanuk & Ozzie Turnipidity in here never suspected that bald & abnoxious fredbdc aka Yankiboy personage to be one of el Think's sockpuppets...
Hume's empiricist approach to logic would strongly suggest so...
Really Think?Dec 21st, 2015 - 07:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0
You need to post this on more than one thread?
Feeling irrelevant much?
Sad, so very sad.
You need to learn the difference between nation and state. Very, very different. Your recent proclamation of your abilities is let down by very basic mistakes such as this.
@4 Escoses DILDODec 21st, 2015 - 02:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
What was the result of the vote for independence? 55% against I recall!
With the oil price at 2004 levels today and independent Scotland would be bankrupt.Dec 21st, 2015 - 06:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
The vote was the right decision.
Great Britain, full stop.Dec 21st, 2015 - 08:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
and out of the crazy money grabbing Euro gravy train.
The UK will return the Malvinas within the next 25 years.Dec 22nd, 2015 - 12:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0
#88Dec 22nd, 2015 - 09:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0
We've missed you. Glad to see you have something fresh and relevant to say.
In a week its should go to 24Dec 22nd, 2015 - 02:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Hepatitis - wrong..................again¡Dec 22nd, 2015 - 04:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
HepatiaDec 23rd, 2015 - 01:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Your enthusiasm is commendable, yet somehow futile in its conception don't you think.
#88 Heck! I will be long dead and gone before your 25 year deadline passes. Every year it's In 25 years... Personally, I prefer to watch the truth about the ignominious surrender of the Argentine forces https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhLzDC6bLPE and say that the Argentinians should be thanking us for helping them to get rid of the Galtieri junta and putting them back on the road to democracy (of a sort).Dec 23rd, 2015 - 07:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
I read this in earth daily planet today,Dec 23rd, 2015 - 07:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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The UK will return the Malvinas within the next 25 years
Hepatias 20 x gr gr gr gr gr gr gr gr gr gr gr gr gr grandson wrote it…lolol