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Malvinas 'a constitutional issue, not optional'; plans for a South Atlantic secretariat which includes Antarctica
Argentina's foreign minister Susana Malcorra stated that the conflict with the United Kingdom over the Falklands/Malvinas Islands sovereignty is “a constitutional issue, not optional”, and described the position of the former Cristina Fernandez administration on the matter as “too tough”, while pledging that the “conflict must and will be integrated into a wider perspective”. Read full article
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Dec 28th, 2015 - 07:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Falkland Islands will remain British for the next millenium, as they have for hundreds of years.
Dec 28th, 2015 - 10:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0Susana, and Argentina's mythical Malvinas claim is based on? https://www.academia.edu/17799157/Falklands_-_Some_Relevant_International_Law
Dec 28th, 2015 - 10:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0i'm sorry my dear, but we discovered it and named it first, its called Queen Elizabeth Land and surrounding South Atlantic Territories belong to the UK.
Dec 28th, 2015 - 10:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0I have to say, she seems to be doing as good a job at ramping up the rhetoric as a Kirchner at the moment, can't see there is likely to me much of an improvement in relations based on the crap she is spewing so far.
As the worlds resources get tighter, it will become increasingly obvious that you only get to keep what you can defend. If we intend to hold on to the South Atlantic Territories, then we need a permanent and well equipped naval base on the Falklands, one rotating destroyer and a river class frigate is not going to be enough.
So change the constitution then, and remove “Argentina Nation ratifies its legitimate and imprescriptible sovereignty over the
Dec 28th, 2015 - 11:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0Falkland Islands, South Georgia and South Sandwich Islands and the maritime areas and corresponding island, being an integral part of the national territory.
The recovery of said territories and the full exercise of sovereignty,
respecting the way of life of their inhabitants and according to the principles of law International, are a permanent and irrevocable goal of the Argentine people.”
It's been changed and rewritten many times before. It would be a lot easier than trying to win the Falkland Islands and the rest of the South Atlantic.
Sounds like - 50 shades of grey LOL
Dec 28th, 2015 - 11:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0She sounds like a typical, two bob each way, politician.
Dec 28th, 2015 - 11:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0Why even mention Antarctica, no nation of relevance lays a claim on a continent used for science. I say leave the Islands alone and allow them to be another British former colony, the history is impressive:
Dec 28th, 2015 - 11:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0Aden
Botswana
East Africa
Central Africa
Guyana
New Guinea
South Africa
Somaliland
Cyprus
Gambia
India
Ireland
Malaysia
Misquito Coast
Nigeria
Rhodesia
Sierra Leone
Suden
Uganda
India
Palestine
And the list goes on, but the general direction is the middle east and Africa....and all the success they created there.
Is she really as stupid as she sounds? Has she not noticed that the bit about the Falklands etc is in the section headed Temporary Provisions? So there's no change coming.
Dec 28th, 2015 - 11:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0This woman sends out so many economist types of arguments: on the one hand BUT there is always another 'hand' that she is beginning to sound like 'No Money Pepe' who is famous for saying 'and I tell you this while I tell you that'. And we all know what a superb job he made of ruining the country.
Dec 28th, 2015 - 12:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Perhaps I am mistaken but hasn't Argentina always been a riven society since the twat Peron and his whore were around?
Ohhhh Suzzannah, it's a polarized world
Dec 28th, 2015 - 01:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Black is not white just as right is not wrong.
Hate a commie but the technocrats are ten times worse because they 'll willingly sail under any flag
“ .. no nation of relevance lays a claim .. ” Wrong again Voice. The Antarctic claims are “frozen” not forgotten. What do you think the British base at MPA is about? Just the Falklands?
Dec 28th, 2015 - 01:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So disapointing. With so many problems one would think that Argentina would focus on clearing up the mess left by CFK rather than expending energy on a lost cause. The Falkland Islands will remain British without any Argentinian involvement, likewise S Georgia and the other islands, safe and improving steadily under careful British stewardship. As for the continent, that is safe under the stewardship of a colaboration between all nations with claims.
Dec 28th, 2015 - 01:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's called the Alicia Castro Virus and it primarily strikes in the intellectually stunted regions of the Paises de Cuarto Mundo. Its principal symptoms include hallucination, diminished cognitive ability, illusions of grandeur and competence, dressing up like Milanese Italians, and making someone and their entire supporting organisation look immensely egg-face foolish. The condition is exacerbated by excessive ingestion of hierba and unfunded expenditures for chiches. For treatment of ACV, specialists in the civilised nations often treat the patient with hours of derisive laughter.
Dec 28th, 2015 - 01:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It seems ironic how just, perhaps less than two months ago during the Argentine floods, the Brits were crowing how primitive the RG infrastructure is because or blah, blah and blah. One would think with the ingenuity, brilliance and the plain old, outright amazingness of the self proclaimed number one country in the world......BRITAIN, they cannot prepare for there events either?
Dec 28th, 2015 - 02:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Now unlike like the Brits, I will not laugh at the victims, nor provide any material or call the Brits clever, yet juvenile names. I will wish the victims well because anyone who has survived the wrath of nature knows that man is always on the losing end.
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/dec/27/floods-army-called-continue-devastate-northern-england
I suggest you little Islanders say a prayer for your bigger Islander overseers.
@15 yet just a mere few days ago you were taking the mickey you must keep up with what you have posted.
Dec 28th, 2015 - 03:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Marti - LOL! Have a banana.. :-)
Dec 28th, 2015 - 03:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0V0ice . I cannot recall seeing anyone in Britain laughing at any flood victims at home or abroad except your noxious namesake? But, we all recognise him as a prime twat with no skills of reasoning, in fact no skills whatsoever except perhaps making himself look a… .. twat!
@15 ” ...less than two months ago during the Argentine floods, the Brits were crowing how primitive the RG infrastructure is ....
Dec 28th, 2015 - 04:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Uh, no. Nobody in the UK or in any decent nation cares about what happens in the roiling blackwater of Argentina so long as they leave their neighbours alone. And pay their bills. That is part of Argentina's principal problem: they believe themselves worthy of being noticed by the civilised nations.
I'm flattered that I'm so popular that that folk wish to pose as me...
Dec 28th, 2015 - 04:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Is it the title or my endearing personality....?
..2/8/15/17...
...not me.... just a bunch of trolling wannabes....trying to fool you....
ps....It's @17 that is taking the piss he switches between the two....
V0ice..
The o is a zero 0....
Crikey, the noxious twat sounds sober ? And he can tell the difference between o and 0 !
Dec 28th, 2015 - 05:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Whenever I look in the mirror, I hate all three of me. We have a headache.
Dec 28th, 2015 - 05:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Please note, there is only a Malvinas issue, not a Falkland Islands issue. Seeing as the Falkland Islands are a British Overseas Territory, there isn't a problem at all, is there? (Come on hepatia! Let's have the twenty five year joke again!)
Dec 28th, 2015 - 06:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@19 wee voice,
Dec 28th, 2015 - 07:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0we all dismiss y0ur nastiness as V0ice just being Voice ...
Who cares what Canadians think....
Dec 28th, 2015 - 07:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No one...
@24. Maybe the Japanese
Dec 28th, 2015 - 07:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Who cares what VoiceofThink Thinks or says. Its all fantasy anyway. Sad little bitter lonely old man living in a dismal dump just off the Clyde.
Dec 28th, 2015 - 08:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Wow!
Dec 28th, 2015 - 08:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Voices Voice from The Voice is merely just another .....Voice, no? I think I am suffering from multiple personalities disorder. Am I:
1 - A Voice
2 -The Voice
3 -Voice
4 - VOice
5 - V0ice
6 - vOice
7 - v0ice
Oh dear, this is quite the conundrum. Mirror mirror on the wall, who is the smartest voice of them all? Why...the smartest voice is........voice of course.
Silly irredentist claims can only be “constitutional” issues in fascist dictatorships.
Dec 28th, 2015 - 08:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No doubt about that!
Philippe
Question, I get the obscure territorial fantasy claim to the Falklands arg's have but why do they believe they are entitled to South Georgia and all the rest of the islands. Can somebody give a brief explaination or a relevant link
Dec 28th, 2015 - 08:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@29 The only reason is territorial expansionism, claiming “ anything nearby.” Nothing to do with any legitimate claims.
Dec 28th, 2015 - 09:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 024 voice
Dec 28th, 2015 - 09:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 027 voice
“Who cares what Canadians think....
No one...”
Obviously y0u d0 - y0u keep resp0nding...
Ha ha, for someone with a fake Scottish identity - you sure care what we think of you.
wee m0n - chuckle chuckle ...
awaiting your next b0n m0t
This voice person whoever he/she is, is right about one thing, we certainly cannot afford to be handing out 12 billion a year in overseas aid and ignore the needs of our own people. If it costs 12 billion a year over the next 5 years to improve our flood defences, then there should be no overseas aid for 5 years.
Dec 28th, 2015 - 11:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0OMG! I am having a multiple personality disorder! But then I never had a personality anyway, I'm just a wee poor little man. Help where is Mr Think
Dec 28th, 2015 - 11:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Voice
Dec 28th, 2015 - 11:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How quickly you fall into the trap of equating someone's nationality with their importance. Must be why you don't proclaim yours.
Quite a low moment for you.... again. However I seem to remember that your attitude sours at this time of the year. You became hypersensitive last Christmas too.
Also think (lol) about changing your name to one without an 'o'. Why do you think I changed mine? However I think you may enjoy the attention and ability to dominate a thread.... your modus operandi helped along.
The Voice, V0ice, V01ce are the biggest losers on this site.... and that is saying something considering some of the posters here. They are quite incapable of actually standing out for what they say but rather who they attempt to impersonate.
I dare say they feel some form of attraction to you. Lucky you.
Mercopress could easily ban names with a zero in them but it chooses not to for the very same reason that this site is so lightly policed regarding racism, antisemitism and misogyny.
And where would we be if all the trolls disappeared? Quite bored I suspect.
But always keep your old login.....
Dec 28th, 2015 - 11:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Actually after reading you on another thread Voice, I realised that the narcissist in you actually enjoys the attention of multiple impersonating trolls.
Dec 29th, 2015 - 12:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0Guess this will be a common feature of 2016.
I can already feel a yawn coming on.....
Well spoken from the cheeky egotistical jingoist from utopia, aka, Australia. I take it when you look in the mirror, no one is telling you it is a glass window. Because gaya can be.....gay, hardly makes Australia a human rights haven. Look a little closer chappy.
Dec 29th, 2015 - 12:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0@37 v01ce
Dec 29th, 2015 - 12:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0“ Because gaya can be.....gay, hardly makes Australia a human rights haven. Look a little closer chappy.”
wow. what does that really mean? What are you trying to say?
Do you support gay rights?
Let's hear something definitive from you for a change. Yes or No?
Skip...
Dec 29th, 2015 - 12:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0V0ice and The Voice are not the same person ....
The Voice is not the sharpest knife in the draw...and it shows...
V0ice is somewhat sharper....
It's someone at Merco....they have been pulling the same trick for years now...also goes by the name ....MuppetPaster....
If folk ignored them they would disappear...
....they will not distract me from my arguments or views, it is not me they are duping ....only the fools that encourage them...
....naming no names....
Troy Tempest...whoops fingers slipped....
@39 v01ce
Dec 29th, 2015 - 12:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0“ Because gaya can be.....gay, hardly makes Australia a human rights haven. Look a little closer chappy.”
wow. what does that really mean? What are you trying to say?
Do you support gay rights?
Let's hear something definitive from you for a change. Yes or No?
40
Dec 29th, 2015 - 01:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0You are such a fuckwit how the fcuk can I answer someone else's post....
I don't even know what he is trying to say...it's friggin cryptic...
.....Friggin D'oh!
The UK will return the Malvinas within the next 25 years.
Dec 29th, 2015 - 01:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0@37 v01ce
Dec 29th, 2015 - 01:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Well spoken from the cheeky egotistical jingoist from utopia, aka, Australia. I take it when you look in the mirror, no one is telling you it is a glass window. Because gaya can be.....gay, hardly makes Australia a human rights haven. Look a little closer chappy”
I'm quoting your post, voicey.
Beats me what the fcuk yer saying though?
Something snide, doubtless.
Is this a jibe at Anglotino?
Do you support gay rights?
Yes or no?
Simple
You seriously need to get some glasses....@37 is V0ice not Voice....
Dec 29th, 2015 - 01:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0Beats me what the fcuk he's saying too....
Are you quite sure... ? It sounds like you.
Dec 29th, 2015 - 02:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0No comment on gay rights though, huh?
Voice
Dec 29th, 2015 - 02:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0Spend sometime and thing of a new login. Make them chase you. I know you like to dominate a thread but it is them doing it. Mercopress needs click bait so it wouldn't surprise me as few of us are here for their journalistic talents.
And I can't work out what V(zero)ice is trying to say either. He did get the Australia is utopia right. Compared to his unnamed sh!thole country of residence, I'm not surprised.
But when you you only use that login to be a second rate copy of someone then I guess your posts are just second rate.
I have no comment on gay rights...I neither care one way or the other....
Dec 29th, 2015 - 02:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0I've never had cause to dwell on the matter and form an opinion..
None of my business, it's up to Skip to ask him to clarify his post...I got lost half way through it...the glass window bit...
Is he saying Skips views are based on the fact he is gay....I don't know I can't second guess it...
Nah, I have no bloody idea.
Dec 29th, 2015 - 03:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0Can only guess that gaya is an attempt at sounding like Australia. Straya.... Gaya.... geddit?
Yeah I yawned also.
Who knows! As I said, second rate copy who pretty much sounds like a wanker and definitely acts like one.
27 Voice, Vestige, Think et al the fabricator
Dec 29th, 2015 - 09:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0So the old V0ice versus Voice sock-pupppery stunt again, its always your claim that you are not the author, and then disavow your own post, I don't accept that it is not you doing a self- impersonation, it is just simply more of your trollism. Must be so-o-o-o frustrating that the only person interested enough to be aware of this disparity is yourself, the fabricator.
49 TH
Dec 29th, 2015 - 09:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0Same thing occurred to me - what better way to create more attention for himself.
“Original” Voice and “2nd rate imposter” V0ice... just too similar to call it a parody - more of a “reproduction”
And..all the UK based Voice fan club posting well into the night. Sad people.. Get a life you lot!
Dec 29th, 2015 - 10:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0Still, it makes a change from Wiki based pointless arguments about sovereignty I suppose? Failure to recognise reality, focus on pedantry, and missing the point are all characteristics of halfwits. But Voice takes the halfwit crown. Perhaps we shouldnt mock the afflicted?
51 Voice, Vestige, Think et al the fabricator
Dec 29th, 2015 - 12:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Amazing the Great Impostor, who breaches all the rules of the forum has the audacity to criticize those who use forum properly. Tell me who's the one that loses all issues, that doesn't need to get a life?
Congratulations...break out the cigars and the bubbly...
Dec 29th, 2015 - 04:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Terry has finally grasped the difference between a zero and an o...
He got there in the end...
..but he's lost it again...(as per usual)....
He now thinks I'm also 51....
Let me inform you...(as per usual)...
The Anglo camp impersonate me to detract and deflect from the thorough good hidings I continuously give you...slapping down your tired old rhetoric...
Demolishing your British historical claims and ICJ bars that are always based on supposition and opinions....with Facts...
I have only one account and only one login...there is only one Voice....
If you feel strongly enough send an email to the editor of MercoPress complaining ...claim I'm using multiple logins or changing my name....
They will either ignore you or they will inform you that you are mistaken....
Then... when you know this as a fact, ask yourself why I'm impersonated so much...
...because some folk don't like what I say....
@53 v01ce
Dec 29th, 2015 - 09:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“...because some folk don't like what I say....”
Likely because you are snide and deliberately insulting, and given to personal attacks.
Thorough good hidings?
Dec 29th, 2015 - 09:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Woah there Trigger.... let's not just start making sh!t up now!
I don't remember anybody acknowledging that v01ce has ever “proved” a damn thing, except v01ce himself.
Dec 29th, 2015 - 09:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Any snow in Trout Run this Christmas?
Shoot your own turkey?
53 Voice, Vestige, Think et al, sock-puppeteer extraordinaire
Dec 29th, 2015 - 09:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“…from the thorough good hidings I continuously give you...slapping down your tired old rhetoric…with Facts...” Oh! Please enlighten as to any supported assertion that might be. This should be fun, as I'm calling you a liar to your face, prove me wrong. Don't forget the onus is on you to prove how you are such a winner, come on refresh us. It isn't inheritance since Spain didn't hold sole sovereignty. Couldn't be the Treaty of Amity, Commerce, and Navigation of 1825 as it is not a peace treaty so has no effect as to territorial rights. The UN Charter is specifically barred from being applied retroactively, as is any other legal opinion. There is no Treaty nor international law that supports you and Argentina's spurious claims. Conversely there is nothing that I've asserted that has not been supported by expert legal opinion. So make my day and show one bonafide legal judgement or fact that has ever buttressed any of your profferings.
VOICE THE ISLAND I SUNDER DISPUTE, UN NEVER PRONOUNCED IN FAVOUR OF THE BRITISH, FACT. BOBBRIT SAID THAT INTERNATIONAL LAW OF THE TIME NEVER SUPPORT UTIS POSEDITIS WHIT NO SETTLEMENT BEFORE.... THEN BOBBRIT , POST HERE WHERE IT SAUYS THAT.....POST HERE WHEN SPAIN GAVE UP THE ISLAND TO THE BRITS, AND THE YEAR.I THINK YOUR FANTASTIC DOCUMENT IS JUST RELEVANT TO YOUR WEAK CELLS.IS UNDERSTANDABLE THAT A OLD DUDE LIKE YOU, RETIRED, NOTING TO DO AT HOME, SEAT IN THE KITCHEN AND START WRITING FANTASTICS LITERATURE. BRITWORKER:: TO SEE AND NOT TO MAKE STTLEMENTS DOESNT MEAN IS BRIT. THE 1690 FAILED, NO SETTLEMENT AT ALL, THE 1765 WAS ONE BRIT SETTLEMENT ONLY IN SOLEDAD, TILL SOANIARS KICKED YOUR ASS OUT IN 1774.ONLY 9 YEARS, CAMEBACK 59 YAERS LATER... ENOUGHT TIME TO GIVE UP YOUR CLAIM, INTERNATIONAL LAW STATES THE MINIMAL IS 50 YEARS. FITZROY: NO DUMMY NOBODY WILL REWRITE SHIT EVER.... THE CAUSE IS A PRIORITY, ANS ALWAYS WILL BE, TRY IN YOUR NEXT LIFE, MAYBE.....DUMB LORTON THERE ISNT 50 SHADES OF FJUCKING COLOR IN OUR SYSTEM, THERE IS ONE AND THAT ONE CALLED MALVINAS, MAYBE YOU ARE SUFFERING SOMEM KIND OF DESEASE IN YOUR SIGHT, WEAR GLASESS. VOICE :: ILL EXPLAIN WHY TO NAME ANTARTICA , WHY EVERYONE IS WORRY BOUT IT, CAUSE IT HAS SEEWT WATER TO SUSTAIN THE WORLD FOR MANYYYYYYYYYYYY LONGGGGGGGG YEARS, AND TO CONTROL THE ISLAND IS TO MEAN THE PROYECTION ON THE ANTARTIDA.IS TRUE NOONE IS OWNER OFM IT BUT LETS SEE WHAT WILL HAPPEN IN 2041... JEEEE TOO MUCH NICE NATURLA SOURCE TO CONTROL, AND UK WANT THAT PIECE SINCE THE COLONIAL TIME, UNDERSTOOD, IDIOT??. LLAZO:: POOR BOYY, WHERE YOU LIVE?? SOUTH?? AND YOU GO TO THAT LOUSY BRIT CLUB IN THE AREA?? REMIND YOU THAT YOU ARE FROM THE FOURTH WORLD?? CAUSE YOU NOT FROM USA OR OTHER EURPEAN NATION, RIGHT?? NEGRITO VILLERO HIJO DE PUTA.TERENCE HILL, THE 1825 WAS PERFECTLY A AMNITY TREATY AND WHERE UK RECOGNISED US AS A SOVEREIGN NATION, GOOLGE IT AND POST HERE.Spain never hold no sovereignty?? prove it here, it will be a long task .
Dec 30th, 2015 - 04:37 am - Link - Report abuse 058 george - nino
Dec 30th, 2015 - 06:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0you remind me of another TROLL who used to 'shout' in upper case letters all the time...
he was stupid, also
@58 georgeneurus STILL SHOUTING? VERY IGNORANT BEHAVIOUR!
Dec 30th, 2015 - 06:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0Just read this and be PROPERLY informed http://www.falklandshistory.com/historia-falsa.pdf
Please pay extra attention to the Arana Southern Treaty!
@63 Whoa there wee man. I never impersonated you, I took over your login because you were too IT illiterate to stop me. I have never ever tried to pretend I am you. Why would anyone want to emulate a halfwit? You constantly miss the point here and regurgitate streams of irrelavent facts and involve yourself in pointless arguments about sovereignty which will not be surrendered.
Dec 30th, 2015 - 10:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Falkland Islands are British
The Falkland Islands will remain British until the Islanders decide otherwise
The defence of the Falkland Islands is paid for by UK taxpayers who willingly support the Islanders.
The majority of English taxpayers want the Barnet formula scrapped and resent subsidising you and your country.
Please continue tossing the log with Stink and the other more recent member of your fan club. Its quite amusing watching you try to dig yourself out of the hole that you dug. But remember your ramblings won't make an iota of difference to a situation that isn't going to change. Dream on…
@53 Voice
Dec 30th, 2015 - 11:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0You really should be more modest! Your claims to have given us “good hidings” are, of course, delusional. What a silly boy you are!
#53 All I see from you Voice is the same old bullshit; the same old propaganda. I doubt you could knock anything down ... even in a truck :-)
Dec 30th, 2015 - 12:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Facts? That would be a first :-)
Dec 30th, 2015 - 01:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0TROY, TONTITO!! I ANSWERED ALREADY, LETS PLAY LOOSER, OR YOU SCARE?? IF YOU DO YOU CAN USE DUMB LORTON FOR YOUR THESIS-JAAAAA.GORDO IT SEEMS YOU BEND DOWN TO THE BRITS....KEEP SUCKING THEIR DICKS AND STOP COPYING LOROTN /BOBBRIT STUPIDITIES, BE ORIGINAL AND AT LEAST CREATE YOUR , DUMMY.GORDITO POSTE HERE ARANA TO DISCUSS IT, IF YOU CAN....VOICE:: TONTITO, YOU JUST REPEAT WITH NOT BACK UP, PROVE THAT TH EUNITED KINGDON WAS THERE AFTER 1771, GOOD LUCK.UNDER DISPUTE ANS SD IS FAKE WITH NOT SUPORT FROM UNOR INTERNATIONA COMMUNITY. NOBODY SUBSIDY US ANYMORE TONTITO.I DONT THINK BRITISH ARE HAOPY PAYING TAXES TO THE SQUATTES, IN FACT NOBODY TALK THERE BOUT THE WAR OR THE ISLAND ALMOST NOTHING, TONTITO.IM NOT TOSSING , IM TEACHING YOU HOW TO THINK DUMMY. I TRY TO SHOW YOU HOW YOUR CORRUPT TORI IS LAUGHING AT YOU SO BAD, HOW STINK YOUR CAMORON IS TOWARD BRITIS SITIZENSHIPS.KEEP BEIUNG AMUSE FROM A GOOD THINKER LIKE ME WHO DIG YOUR HOLE STINKY SYSTEM THT BRAINWASH YOUR NONEXISTENCE BRAIN.KEEP DREAMING TONTITO.
Dec 30th, 2015 - 01:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 064/65 Trust you are now enjoying the weather. Gosh, you impress us all with your impecable logic, wide knowledge and command of the language. Well done lad..
Dec 30th, 2015 - 01:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@65 U speeky di eengleesh?
Dec 30th, 2015 - 02:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 058 georgeneurus the ignoramus
Dec 30th, 2015 - 02:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“UN NEVER PRONOUNCED IN FAVOUR OF THE BRITISH” they where silent. The legal effect of silence on international organizations and nations is as following: “Customary international law; Silence as consent;
Generally, sovereign nations must consent in order to be bound by a particular treaty or legal norm. However, international customary laws are norms that have become pervasive enough internationally that countries need not consent in order to be bound. In these cases, all that is needed is that the state has not objected to the law....” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Customary_international_law
Alvarez (1909: 290), for example, notes that the uti possidetis of 1810 “was, moreover, recognized in fact by all the states, and proclaimed in the Congress of Lima in 1848.” www.paulhensel.org/Research/iowa06.pdf
Such an application of the doctrine in law is only to the parties to those nations that are signatories, and no others. In any case it could not be applied to Islands as the dispute arises from 1833, and it was not accepted law formally among the former Spanish colonies until 1848. As there is in international law a bar against applying laws retroactively.
“TILL SOANIARS KICKED YOUR ASS OUT IN 1774” True, but you have omitted the restoration and compensation from Spain to stop the British declaring war on them. The Spanish declaration of 1771 stated “…that the engagement of his said Catholick Majesty [the king of Spain], to restore to his Britannick Majesty the possession of the port and fort called Egmont, cannot nor ought in any wise to affect the question of the prior right of sovereignty of the Malouine islands, otherwise called Falkland’s Islands…” So both nations agreed to question each others claim.
“ISLAND..AND UK WANT THAT PIECE SINCE THE COLONIAL TIME” Was once true from a military perspective but, it is well documented that they haven't considered it so for many years. True, but the Treaty of Amity, Commerce, and Navigation
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Dec 30th, 2015 - 02:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Are you having a larff...
You began by impersonating me...
You never took over my login...
You thought you were clever by producing a visual copy of my login “The Voice”...
I allowed you to think you had me baffled and lulled you into a false sense of security and then exposed you for the chump you are by switching to a login you couldn't emulate and left you with your copy...I can switch to “The Voice ” original login anytime I choose...
IT Illiterate....I began writing HTML code early 1995, before that late introduction of Windows 95 and produced the first Commercial clickable graphic maps in the UK for a French company....using Microsoft Execl to flow the data and Netscape Navigator Beta versions for access....
You are an amateur Gramps...
As you can all see from @64....
Just because you can't see it...doesn't mean it's not there
No professional calls HTML HTML code, and thats all long past its sell by date like yourself. You remain an object of mirth and you still havent made an iota of difference. Less is more… Back to your ice cream van loser.
Dec 30th, 2015 - 02:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Dec 30th, 2015 - 02:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Wrong Again...
http://www.ascii.cl/htmlcodes.htm
Show us what you are made of - https://youtu.be/PEO1ny91MoA :-))))
Dec 30th, 2015 - 03:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 058 georgeneurus the ignoramus
Dec 30th, 2015 - 03:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Cont. #68 …of 1825 as it commercial treaty so has no effect as to territorial claims to the Islands. Spain withdrew from Islands in 1810 and formally acknowledged their relinquishment in 1863.
Sorry omitted the word NOT from the sentence “So both nations agreed NOT to question each others claim.”
It is duly noted that 53 Voice, V0ice, Vestige, Think et al, sock-puppeteer extraordinaire. Cannot produce one solitary piece of evidence to support his bragging. Like I've said before talks the talk, but doesn't walk the walk. Proof absolute of empty rhetoric totally lacking in any meaningful substance. The only thing he has some ability in is trivial pursuits.
That's it Terence, keep winding his spring up. Thousands of words and VoiceofThink hasn't made any difference whatsoever :-))) The frustration is palpable. Lets hope Ms Sturgeon succeeds.
Dec 30th, 2015 - 03:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Fact...
Dec 30th, 2015 - 04:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Britain did not Discover the Islands...they had already appeared on maps...
So no historical claim to Discovery...
Fact
Britain were not the first to settle the islands...
So no historical claim to first settlement...
The French had a very strong claim to settlement....
The French sold their claim to the Spanish....a legitimate transaction...
The Spanish then had the only LEGITIMATE claim to the islands....
The British having no claim to Discovery and no claim to first settlement had no claim at all ...and so had no basis to demand the expulsion of the settlement that appeared after the Spanish abandoned the islands...
“The difficulty of our position is that out seizure of the Falklands in 1833 was so arbitrary a procedure as judged by the ideology of the present day” that it would not “ be easy to explain our position without showing ourselves up as International bandits.”
John Troutbeck (Foreign Office legal advisor, American Department..1936)
@65 georgeneurus
Dec 30th, 2015 - 04:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0https://es.wikisource.org/wiki/Convención_Arana_-_Southern
Véase BIEN párrafo 7° “Mediante esta Convención, queda restablecida la perfecta amistad entre el Gobierno de la Confederación y el de S. M. B., á su anterior estado de buena inteligencia y cordialidad.” Voy a seguir su ejemplo de ser gritón - POR MEDIO DE ESTE TRATADO ARGENTINA ACEPTO LA SOBERANIA BRITANICA POR NO HABERLA RECLAMADO.
VoiceofThink, totally irrelavent.
Dec 30th, 2015 - 05:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Falkland Islands will remain British until the islanders decide otherwise.
Fail once again
A 99 for me ..
75 v01ce of Think,
Dec 30th, 2015 - 05:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I can see at least two holes to drive a bus through, and Roger and Terry can argue the finer points.
75 Voice, V0ice, Vestige, Think et al, sock-puppeteer extraordinaire
Dec 30th, 2015 - 05:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“The Spanish then had the only LEGITIMATE claim to the islands….” Same old only a personal opinion. Hardly, since the British had already publicly announced their discovery and claim. Were already in possession before the Spanish made any claim against the French. “So had no basis to demand the expulsion of the settlement that appeared after the Spanish abandoned the islands.” Another unsupported opinion. Whereas the British could claim a right through three Anglo-Spanish Treaties, further supported by subsequent tribunal rulings “Titles of acquisition of territorial sovereignty in present-day international law are either based on an act of effective apprehension, such as occupation or conquest, or, like cession,…” Island of Palmas case (Netherlands v. USA) (1928), RIAA 2 (1949),ß, Permanent Court of Arbitration.
As he states “..arbitrary a procedure as judged by the ideology of the present day…1936”. So it has no legal significance to an event from 1833.
So you have failed yet again to produce one scintilla of legal support for your sophisms.
...and I take it...you can't...
Dec 30th, 2015 - 05:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0figures...
Troy, an ice cream van too perhaps? No doubt his would have a megaphone on the roof announcing how clever he is? Now he is bragging about writing stuff in HTML at the time I was writing CAD programs in assembler! Bahahahaha noxious twat! He doesnt seem to understand that whatever he says is irrelavent.
Dec 30th, 2015 - 05:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 080 Voice, V0ice, Vestige, Think et al, sock-puppeteer extraordinaire
Dec 30th, 2015 - 06:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Moreover, the legal consequence of Argentina ignoring two British protests of their prior claim to the Islands. Means, Argentina's silence is acknowledgement of the truth of the British claim. Therefore, Argentina had acquiesced to their title claim.
82
Dec 30th, 2015 - 06:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In 1823 the new Argentine Government gave a concession of land on East Falkland to Don Jorge Pacheco and Louis Vernet...
Britain recognised the new Government in 1825 without making any reservations about Argentina's attempts to exercise its sovereignty over the Malvinas..
They failed to protest Jewitt's or Vernet's acts of possession in the name of the new republic...
...is...Britains's silence an acknowledgement of the truth of the Argentine claim. Therefore, Britain had acquiesced to their title claim...
Is that a case of Silence as consent....?
83 Voice, V0ice, Vestige, Think et al, sock-puppeteer extraordinaire
Dec 30th, 2015 - 07:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No, not at all there are limits to what a commercial treaty covers. Perhaps you could support your sophism by producing such a commercial treaty that has ever involved territorial claims. The British could only protest what they were aware of, and subsequently acted in the only legal way open to them. To protect their interest after Argentine acquiescence. As Argentina was well aware of Briton's claim, as she had been prepared to go to war with Spain over her contention.
80 small v01ce
Dec 30th, 2015 - 08:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0really, why bother...?
You know yourself that your claims are a baseless time-waster. You are saying no more than you have repeated time and again
Game, set and match to Terence… Stumped, shot, finished, washed up. Possession is what counts. Spain had everything, then lost the lot. It and its dependencies will never ever get any of it back.
Dec 30th, 2015 - 08:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 084
Dec 30th, 2015 - 08:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Is that your answer....
....“The British could only protest what they were aware of”
So I suppose they were not aware of the...
The Times of 3 August 1821, announcing David Jewett’s actions in claiming the Falkland Islands for Argentina.
...and yet they were still not aware of it till November 1829...when they finally protested....
That's a pretty long 8 year acquiescence.....
87 Voice, V0ice, Vestige, Think et al, sock-puppeteer extraordinaire
Dec 30th, 2015 - 09:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thought your sophism would lead you to blunder into that vagary. They are required to be officially communicated. Acting underhandedly and trespassing is not an accepted manner of official communication.
87
Dec 30th, 2015 - 10:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0pwnd !!
http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Pwnd_d589fe_1608696.jpg
Dec 30th, 2015 - 10:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Chuckle chuckle
Facts Voice?
Dec 30th, 2015 - 10:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0These are facts -
1. 1 st recorded discovery of the Falklands archipelago by the English in 1592. (note the word “recorded” - in fact they had been seen by the Portuguese around 1505/6)
2. 1 st recorded claim to the Islands by the English in 1594 (the 1st Englishman was davis in 1592 but there is no suggestion that he claimed the islands)
3. The French settled in 1764 in the east. The English in 1765 in the west (being on one island does not provide sovereignty over all islands - take a look at the Caribbean). The Spanish came in a poor 3rd in 1767 having compensated Bougainville for his settlement. Spain could not purchase any sovereignty as it refused to recognise that France had any. After its arrival Spain had a claim to the east - not the west.
4. England did not “abandon” its claim in 1774 any more than Spain abandoned its claim in 1811. Argentina was not Spain. Argentina had no claim at all.
5. Quoting obscure civil servants from nearly a century ago affords you no support. Troutbeck et al were told to shut up by the Foreign Minister anthony Eden in 1936 when he dismissed their doubts.
As I said before Voice - you don't know any facts
With all these facts flying about, why aren't the Falkland Islands Argentinean?
Dec 31st, 2015 - 12:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0I mean tomorrow is 2016 and they're still British.
Until the UN officially retracts the right of self determination, there is only one group of people who will decide future sovereignty.
Events in the 19th century are so..... last, last century.
It's the 21st century and the 19th is unimportant not only because events in the 20th overtook the, but because mewrly 200 years of arguing the same puerile points haven't changed anything.
As for Jewett?
Dec 31st, 2015 - 12:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0A privateer with no official mandate, “takes possession” of territory already subject to two claimants on behalf of a country which did not exist and whose government refused to acknowledge Jewett's actions.
If Jewett had been anything other than a joke, Manuel Moreno would have mentioned him in the protests of 1833 and 34.
Try to learn something Voice :-)
https://falklandstimeline.wordpress.com/chapter-pdfs/
“and so had no basis to demand the expulsion of the settlement that appeared after the Spanish abandoned the islands...”
Dec 31st, 2015 - 12:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0The UK never made any such demand. The garrison was expelled. The settlement remained.
Tell this nice lady, that a peace treaty has not been signed at, nor after, the end of hostilities after Argentina's unprovoked attack in 1982.
Dec 31st, 2015 - 01:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0Use the new UK carrier, HMS Queen Elizabeth, to firebomb Buenos Aires, as a wake-up call for these lunatics and tell them that we have had ENOUGH.
LORton CAN YOU POST HERE THE RECEIVE OF THE PAYMENTS MADE BY UK TO THE FRENCH?? CAN YOU POST HERE ON WHAT DOCUMENT SAYS UK WAS IN THE ISLAND THE WHOLE TIME??.DOGGY WE WILL WAIT FOR YOU ,, JUST TRY, SECOND 1982 WAS AN INVASION AT ALL, but the south Georgia was a eviction in 1982.94 dab14763: the settlement was expelled as rivero was taking to uk .LORTON YOUR FAMOUS FLAKLAND TIME WRITTEN BY YOU IN GOOGLE, no one givs a shit bout that crap.PUERILE SKIP : IN THE U CHARTTER APPEARS ,TERRITORIAL INTEGRITY AND SELF DETERMINATION, AND?????AND THE UN NEVER SAID THE 19 CENTURY IS UN IMPORTANT, TRY TO BACK UP MORE YOUR NONSENSE. Terrence what the treaties got to do with the claiming?? being silent less than 50 years don't influence shit(international law) learn Terrence.as the 1965 resolution neither. and prove that utis isn't legal anymore.... was used in 1881 bet us and chile and in 2014.
Dec 31st, 2015 - 06:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0@92 Skip
Dec 31st, 2015 - 06:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0You have hit the nail on the head! Argentina has no claim - all they have are fairy stories, myths, lies and mistaken interpretations of historical events. And, of course, a complete lack of common sense.
#96 georgeanus ( what a strange name) Have you lost control of your caps lock?
Dec 31st, 2015 - 06:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0The British took sovereignty of the west, while France was in the east. Payment? What for?
Document? You are missing the point. The British garrison was withdrawn in 1774 but our claim was not abandoned, relinquished or lost. Spain remained in the east, and was unable to gain control over the whole archipelago due to our businessmen who continued to operate unmolested in the west. It is notable that although we withdrew our garrison in 1774, Spain was too afraid to confirm it until 1776.
Argentine most certainly invaded in 1982. That is recognised by the UN. It was Argentina's 2nd invasion, the 1st having been in 1832.
My Timeline, written by me? Hmm - you are not entirely sober are you Anus ... or are you smoking something your mother would disapprove of? A man for instance :-)
For the record, the matter is settled. Has been for years.
show us the receive like spain got one when they paid to thr French and where French acknowledged it that the island was spaniar.dumb oldm Lorton claim wint no possestionm osnt valid(international law).what bussines?? can you prove what bussines was on that settlement? and don't tellm me that crap of fishing cause you got no license to operate, the one that was issued by bs gov.if spain confirmed it then where is the document?? cause you and everyone else can say whatever alcoholic boy. was anninvasion in 1982?? nope at all was an invasion in 1833 over a legal and formal gov siuporered by Monroe?? yes, was an eviction the on from south goergia in 1982?? it was.if un recognized it that we invaded twiced post it here.your tomline is yours , everyone have been seein it since long as the use you do of the google crap boyyy, IMINVITE YOU TO COME TO BUENOS AIRES TO CHECK MTHE ARCHIVES , IF YOU GOT SOME BALSS BOY.GORDO , WHERE YOU LIVE??MJAAAAAA, YOU NEED TO BACK UOP YOUR CLAIMING GORDITO AND STOP SUCKING LORTONs DICK.FOR THE RECORD LORTON NOBODY SAID , NOT EVEN THE UN THAT NO MATTER IS SETTLED, ONLY YOUR DRUNK BRAIN. AGAIN COME TO BUENOS AIRES.... JEEEEEEEEE, YOU WILL???
Dec 31st, 2015 - 06:57 am - Link - Report abuse 099 nino
Dec 31st, 2015 - 07:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0you are cute when you are angry. stupid, butt cute.
Do you want me to come to BA to meet you? *simper*
Receive like Spain Georeanus? Why would we want to do that. We were in the west first. Quite sufficient.
Dec 31st, 2015 - 08:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0We didn't need fishing licences to fish our own territory in 1774 - 1833 lad. Long before the Falklands fishery zone. Are you confused? Spain didn't have to confirm anything. Spain had no right to confirm anything. England and Spain were in dispute. Haven't you heard?
1833? Nothing happened of any great interest in 1833 georgieanus - merely a small police action to eject some trespassers from BA who had been warned in 1829 and again in 1832. Those trespassers should have listened. Fortunately they left without getting killed.
Monroe? His doctrine was incapable of enforcement without the British Royal Navy. The USA was not so big back then.
South Georgia has never been in dispute child - it's always been British. Had to throw some trespassers off that too in 1982.
We've read your archives georgieanus. We know them all.
The UN knows the matter is settled - which is why Argentina hasn't been able to get a Resolution in 27 years. 2065 is long dead and without a replacement, Argentina has no argument.
Argentina is impotent georgieanus - about as impotent as you.
Funny.....receipts, I like that. It's not a receipt Geo, it's called a treaty. But acts as a receipt. Ever see a receipt in any of Great Britain's (hehe) path of world wide destruction?
Dec 31st, 2015 - 11:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0Perhaps Britain should be outcast to some island. Oh, wait a minute, we are!
“………………….and don't tellm me that crap of fishing cause you got no license to operate, the one that was issued by bs gov.if spain confirmed it then where is the document?? cause you and everyone else can say whatever alcoholic boy. was anninvasion in 1982?? nope at all was an invasion in 1833 over a legal and formal ………………………”
Dec 31st, 2015 - 11:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0Wow! That’s a hard act to follow.
georgeneuru, of course, you make it all so crystal clear, why hasn't someone from your country explained it that way before? You have solved Argentina's 'constitutional issue' all on your own. Well done son!
You should get a position as an adviser in the new Argentine government, a man with your superb intellect and rhetorical talents will have the whole world sorted in no time.
I must say that georgeneurus makes much more sense than most of the Argie trolls here. The Argie FO could do with a man of that calibre, and if he visits Britain he should definately bring a few cases of whatever he is on!
Dec 31st, 2015 - 12:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0WE DID WELL SUNSHINE 103, CONSTITUTION IS SACRED, DONT FEEL ENVY...NO 103 SUNSHINE I WILL BE WORKING WITH BOY CORBYN TO GET THE ISLAND BACK FOR EVER.
Dec 31st, 2015 - 12:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@99 & 105 georgeneurus
Dec 31st, 2015 - 12:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Please stop shouting, gritón, and compose your English better. it is almost impossible to understand what you are attempting to say!
I am making no claim - I am suggesting you read the content of the Arana Southern Treaty, especially Paragraph 7, which clearly states, by omission, that Argentina was happy with the status quo i.e. sovereignty of the Falklands archipelago pertained to the United Kingdom.
Back Georeanus? You cannot get “back” what you have never had in the first place.
Dec 31st, 2015 - 01:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your Argie Constitution is quite irrelevant. As for the mad Corbyn - chances of him making PM are nil :-)
The relevance of the Argentine constitution is on par with the relevance of the British constitution. Oh, wait, you don't have one.
Dec 31st, 2015 - 02:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A most interesting search:
Is Britain relevant on the world stage.
“Is Britain relevant on the world stage?”
Dec 31st, 2015 - 02:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We do the best comedy - look at Corbyn!
More relevant than Argentina Voice. But then, that is not actually very hard is it? Singapore is more relevant than Argentina. La La Land is more relevant than Argentina Voice... but then, I suspect that you know that already.
Dec 31st, 2015 - 02:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Not having a written Constitution is our strength .... saves having to “Amend” it every few years.
As Argentina will have to amend its Constitution over the Falklands.
Once a loser, always a loser Voice :-)
georgeneurus,
Dec 31st, 2015 - 03:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0will you believe the words of:
Argentine president Bartolomé Mitre in his 'state of the nation' speech to the Argentine congress on 1 May 1865? [1]
Argentine president Domingo Faustino Sarmiento in his 'state of the nation' speech to the Argentine congress on 1 May 1869? [2]
Argentine vice-president Marcos Paz in his 'state of the nation' speech to the Argentine congress on 1 May 1866? [3]
These speeches are found in Archivo General de la republica Argentina.
If you won't believe the words of two Argentine presidents and an Argentine vice-president, there is no reason whatever to discuss anything with you.
[1] “Los Mensajes 1810 - 1910”, editor: Heraclio Mabragaña, Buenos Aires 1910, vol. III, pag. 227
”Mensaje del Presidente de la República Argentina, Bartolomé Mitre, ante la Asamblea Legislativa (1865) “
http://constitucionweb.blogspot.com.ar/2010/09/mensaje-del-presidente-de-la-republica_5176.html
http://constitucionweb.blogspot.com.ar/2010/09/mensaje-del-presidente-de-la-republica_5176.html
[2] ”Los Mensajes 1810 - 1910“, vol. III, pag. 238
”Mensaje del Presidente de La Republica Argentina Domingo Sarmiento al Abrir las Sesiones del Congreso Nacional en 1° de Mayo de 1869“
http://constitucionweb.blogspot.com.ar/2010/09/mensaje-del-presidente-de-la-republica_5176.html
http://constitucionweb.blogspot.com.ar/2010/09/mensaje-del-presidente-de-la-republica_5176.html
[3] ”Los Mensajes 1810 - 1910“, vol. III, pag. 286
”Mensaje del Vicepresidente de la República Argentina, Marcos Paz, en ejercicio del Poder Ejecutivo, ante la Asamblea Legislativa (1866)”
http://constitucionweb.blogspot.com.ar/2010/09/mensaje-del-presidente-de-la-republica_5176.html
http://constitucionweb.blogspot.com.ar/2010/09/mensaje-del-presidente-de-la-republica_5176.html
Who gives a fly shit leap for Argentina, certainly not I. But I would venture to guess the “Brits” posting here, more appropriately the “islanders” talking as Brits here do. You hang here like flies on shit and I find myself constantly asking, “who is the shit and who are the flies?”
Dec 31st, 2015 - 04:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Actually, Benny Hill is much more pleasant to watch and more representative the the English political system. Here, here!
99 georgeneurus the ignoramus
Dec 31st, 2015 - 04:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Argentina also protested to the United States, claiming the British action violated the Monroe doctrine, and demanded American intervention. US Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard, however, maintained that, since the British claim to the Falklands predated the Monroe doctrine, the US did not consider the Monroe doctrine as having any application”
A. Bushnell Hart, The Monroe doctrine, An Interpretation 105-06 (1916)
http://scholarship.law.nd.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2402&context=ndlr
Have you sought help for your troubling propensity for paedophilic and homosexual fantasies?
The UN in fact by their silence supports the UK's position. Overview of International Law and Institutions, Sources of International Law
“Nations that remain silent, however, may become bound by the rule, even if they did not expressly support it. Silence, in other words, is considered a form of implicit acceptance.”
p. xxv, FOREIGN RELATIONS LAW
http://scholarship.law.nd.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2402&context=ndlr
@ 106 “Is Britain relevant on the world stage.”
Dec 31st, 2015 - 04:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ha ha.
UK, world's sixth largest economy. That speaks of relevance. Certainly more so than this fetid fracaso of a backwater in Letrine America whose miniscule significance and dimming hope for affording their next choripan revolves around the sale of beans.
I am not an Islander Voice .... didn't you know? I would find that you didn't surprising. In fact, I suspect that the only thing you give a “fly shit leap” for is your own ego. Which is strange - as you simply do not know enough.
Dec 31st, 2015 - 04:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Come back when you've learnt something :-)
Lord Ton...
Dec 31st, 2015 - 04:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I haven't posted since @87....
You have got to look closely.... an o or a zero....
I have got lot's of replies, but no time at the moment to deliver them...New Years Eve and tons to do....
I have read Mr. Think's replies to you often enough to know who you are....
When Constabulary duty's to be done....to be done,
An Ex- Policeman's lot is not a happy one...(happy one)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IM2vju0Mp-s
ps...I've never heard of the phrase...“fly shit leap” in the UK...:“take a flying leap.”..“a flying fcuk” or even a “flying shit” perhaps, but I would probably go for the alliterative one....
@114 Marti Llazo
Dec 31st, 2015 - 05:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You direct a comment to @106 - ME! I have never questioned Britain's place on the world stage! (As a Brit I am far too modest!!!!!)
Roger Lorton, it's just his latest sock-puppetry. So I don't miss the chameleon's many trollistic facets you have to be inclusive. E.g. Voice, V0ice, Vestige, Think et al, sock-puppeteer extraordinaire .
Dec 31st, 2015 - 05:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh my VoiceofThink, we can't wait to hear your next missive and rebutal! No doubt it will just be another droning delivery of meaningless irrelavent drivel. Do get a life.
Dec 31st, 2015 - 05:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This is a looney bin. Everyone picks on me!!...Why me? Me, myself and I are always being accused of something. I mean Voice, The Voice and V0ice are always picked on. Fack it! Gives me the willies.
Dec 31st, 2015 - 08:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0120 v01ce
Dec 31st, 2015 - 08:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0tell us about Dunoon
@117 Gordo, sorry, the comment was directed to Voiceterous and should have been written @108. Apologies from the fat fingers.
Dec 31st, 2015 - 08:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@120 “ Why me? ”
Take a good look in the mirror.
@ 120 Noise: “ Everyone picks on me!!...Why me?”
Dec 31st, 2015 - 09:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well, why not you?
If not you, then perhaps me ... better they pick on you :)
Dunoon? Well if you want to impress someone, its the last Frickin olace on the planet you would claim you are from. Billy Conelly takes the pee out of it wholesale because he rembembers it from living there briefly in his childhood. Now, its a sort of run down seaside resort of the past. Its one claim to fame is the nearby annual Cowal Highland Games, where people dress up, blow bagpipes and toss the log. The Americans were nearby in the past at Holy Loch where they had their nuclear deterent, but they couldnt stand it either and left. It rains a lot, a damp and dismal place inhabited by aged folk. As Voice says, we all pick on him because he thinks the Falklands are a dead loss to Britain when in truth folk like him and places like Dunoon are. I dont believe Voice, I think he has been to the Falklands, hates the islanders for some reason, has an agenda and likes agueing for the sake of it. He consistently fails to see the main point, the Falklands will remain British. He is king of the lost cause…
Dec 31st, 2015 - 10:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@101 “1833? Nothing happened of any great interest in 1833 georgieanus - merely a small police action to eject some trespassers from BA who had been warned in 1829 and again in 1832. Those trespassers should have listened. Fortunately they left without getting killed.”
Dec 31st, 2015 - 10:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yeah, subjugating Latinos isn't of great interest... after all, you British do that all the time.
I am oogff now wiv my coal.
Dec 31st, 2015 - 11:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0VOice or V0ice - this ex-policemans life is a very happy one despite my eyes not being up to spotting the difference. If I've run you down wrongly then I apologise.
Jan 01st, 2016 - 12:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0I thought “fly shit leap” was a strange phrase too .... I even tried Google.
Happy New Year everyone. As 2016 dawns (here at least) think of the poor bugger in the Secretary-General's office who will be getting the 3rd of January letter from Argentina .... same as every year. Bet he/she doesn't read it.
183 years since Onslow kicked the trespassers out of Port Louis. Here's to the next 183
:-)
Voices care less than not if the Falklands are Falkland or Malvinas. Who cares in a world of over 7 billion about a desolate hunk of penguin rock. Stay British......become Argentine....so what. It's a flying shit leap. I' m certain the natives are friendly, but friendly people are closer than there. The world does not evolve around Britain or the Falklands, either island. Perhaps you brits will eventually learn, lest Yea be taught. Rather dwindle away as you currently are, you do that best. The Great British Empire.......flushed.
Jan 01st, 2016 - 12:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0MagnusMaster tells us: “Yeah, subjugating Latinos isn't of great interest... after all, you British do that all the time.”
Jan 01st, 2016 - 12:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0But because he is a stupid liar, he has never answered the crucial questions:
Now tell us, MagnusMaster, how did Argentina acquire Patagonia: by treaty or by force?
Now tell us, MagnusMaster, how did Argentina acquire the provinces Chaco, Formosa and Misiones: by treaty or by force?
Now tell us, MagnusMaster, how did proto-Argentina acquire a part of el Virreinato del Río de la Plata: by treaty or by force?
Now tell us, MagnusMaster, how did Spain acquire Virreinato del Río de la Plata and the rest of Spanish America: by treaty or by force?
Now tell us, MagnusMaster, have you bought a one-way ticket back home, now that you are going to hand all of Argentina back to the original owners?
dago alberto, culo con caca:how can dumb brits subjugate whrn they cant even prove if uk were in the island the whole time. 1)patagnia belonged to the empired when the papal bull made the world division, and treaties signed by spain and pirates in 1604/1763/1773/1790/1783 ratified the ownership of each coast by both parties.the three provinces were adqueired by an unfortunate war that argentina wasn't part of it at first, and paraguuay knew once they put a foot on a national soil argentina would have no chance to enter at war.we warned them , they didn't listened, their bussines, as we lost the war in 1982 and pirates took 200 milles around.viceroy was crated in 1776 wihtn no force , is true spain got brawl withnthe Indians but peace treaty showed that their bitterness become a peaceful relation as the criollos did the same with them in national territory.vice and Spanish America had some reisitance and killings but not much, 20 millions Indians against 54.881 spaniars.... they how come they conquered the Indians??at least from 1493 to 1600, and the kilings wanst ordered from the corona at all.studies from Harvard and paleontholoigist serch found that in the Aztecs bones were this cocolistli virus that exterminated millions and the wars among them.in 1998 juan Pablo the second,m opended the secret archives of the congregation for the doctrine of faith and affirmed it how it was in reality.magnusshit: brits warned as spainiars warned and??? it proves something?? no what it proves was that in 1749 was the year when brits asked permission to the brits to got to the island, permission was denied.1832 yanks tookover illegally 0ver a legalm and formal gov. suporetred by Monroe doctrine.. but the Connecticut court ruled wronged and apologies were sent.and is true the claimimmgs predated Monroe, but that doctrine was a support of the free nations, thank you.gordito chupa pija: the 7 poaragrapgh stated that relations restores as it was and the 1825 ratified it,.TONTIN, PUTI
Jan 01st, 2016 - 03:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0@130 George/Sussie/Nino
Jan 01st, 2016 - 04:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0What are you talking about??
Forum rules say posts must be in English, and should not be obscene, racist or rude.
Come back later.
Toodles....
GeorgieAnus
Jan 01st, 2016 - 06:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0Papal Bull? Nah - just Bull. Ignored by everyone, even Spain and Portugal who sat down and agreed their own deal at Tordesillas. Did you know that the Pope refused to recognise the Tordesillas Treaty for 15 years?
Patagonia? Stolen from the indigenous tribes by the United Provinces in the 1880's. Never a part of the Viceroyalty and never 'occupied' by Spain. The southern border of the Viceroyalty was set at 39 degrees South Latitude. Have you got a map. Look it up :-)
1749? no permission sought and Madrid told that we would go when we were good and ready. You really need to learn some history Anus.
The Lexington raid was supported by the Monroe Doctrine? Are you drunk again GA? Oh, and there were 2 court cases over the seal skins. Certainly no apology from the good ol' US of A
1825? A commercial treaty with no recognition of UP de jure rights. Have you read the Nunez letter? No? You should.
https://falklandstimeline.wordpress.com/chapter-pdfs/
@ 130 georgeneurus
Jan 01st, 2016 - 06:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0FELIZ AÑO NUEVO
But - you really must learn NOT to keep posting “mentiras, cuentos de hadas, mitos y representaciones equivocadas de eventos históricos”.
Re Arana Southern Treaty and thanks to wikipedia.
“A number of historians have commented on the relation of the Convention of Settlement to the Falklands dispute. The Mexican diplomat and historian Carlos Pereyra considers that General Rosas gave up the claim to the Falklands in order to end Britain's involvement in the River Plate.
The impact of the treaty was also raised in a 1950 debate on Argentina's claim to the Falklands by a member of the Argentine Chamber of Deputies, Absalón Rojas.
”Other Argentine historians have commented on the impact that the Convention of Settlement has upon Argentina's modern sovereignty claim, such as historian Alfredo R. Burnet-Merlín. Ernesto J. Fitte considers that the Argentine Confederation should have included its restitution in the treaty.”
125 MM
Jan 01st, 2016 - 07:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Yeah, subjugating Latinos isn't of great interest... after all, you British do that all the time.”
Do they? When do they do that and to whom? – elucidate.
The cult of victimhood fits in neatly with the Malvinas myth; one involves a perceived injury that happened nearly two hundred years ago and the other is about perceived injustices that are being done to Argentina right now that demands the attention of the UN, US, EU, IMF, the world in general - anybody except Argentina. This manifests itself in a false sense of national grievance, constant complaining, whingeing and whining by Argentina about how it is being treated by the rest of the world. Argentina is so obsessed with being a victim that it ignores proper political discourse.
When you compare Argentina’s cult of victimhood, on the one hand, with its historical abuses of human rights against its own people and the way it treats its smaller weaker neighbours, the conclusion is that Argentina is a hypocritical, bullying loser that is incapable of governing itself let alone be accorded the status and respect on the international stage that it considers its right.
georgeneurus
Jan 01st, 2016 - 11:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0you admit that Argentin took the threeprovinces by force, yet you blame Britain for doing the same with the Falkland Islands.
You claim that the papal bull made Spain the owner of Patagonia, using force to subjugate the indigenous people. The same bull made Portugal the owner of e.g.Japan. If you are unable to see how ridiculous such a “gift” is, then you should be happy in your padded cell.
Why do you use a new name “georgeneurus”?
You seem to be too stupid to realize, that you expose yourself when you use expressions like “culo con caca”. Are you really that stupid - I would have thought it impossible to be so stupid and yet able to write in a funny English-like language.
“treaties signed by spain and pirates in 1604/1763/1773/1790/1783”
Read them one day and realize how you have been lied to, poor dear.
Happy New Year, Sussie, Hepatia and your other pseudonyms.
I wonder if georgegeneurus could possibly be “cara de culo podrido” as I used to call him?
Jan 01st, 2016 - 01:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0gordo chupa pija”: the only way is meeting me, where?? traga leche..alberto:no idiot , if you want to become a dumb victim then be it , but wasn't us who commited a mistakes.the Malvinas issue wasn't a takeover we just got back to recuperate whats our, but the 1833 was an illegal took over, the 1982 south Georgia was an illegal evciton, than you dummy.papal bull just divided it, and was normal to take places like uk did and lay sovereignty there.alberto the conquest wasn't like the way official history says, the king sent people to roam places not to kill but it was the conquistadors, some of them that took advantage outn of the natives that's why much later the king and Isabel create a law to ban any abuse toward them.and not , to tell you culo con caca isn't funny , cause you are one idiot, un come mierda, que entrega el orto a los piratas, la reconcha de tu malparida madre!.read what?? did you read them you fucking lousy piece of shit, mother fucker?? nope your didn't, pero te gusta la soifsticacion pirate de lavar el cerebro. go and suck yout dick dumb shit.downnunder:smaller weak neigbours, you referring to the squats?? no they aren't neigbours, they are dumb brits usurping, dummy.GORDO TROLO: read groussac then , batel,gjunther, de martenson the juridiclatin doctrine and international lawover Malvinas idiota, and why we shoud restitute the island on the 1850?? no reason, but as I said tell me on what articles says the island was tranfered??dummy.lortontito:argetine independence 1816, when dumb brits came to the Patagonia abckmin mid 1800 what flag they found on the contienent?? to difficult for you to see it?? I see.peace treaty bet spaniars and natives, peace treaty bet criollos and natives, second not even natives are form the continent , they came form another continent dumb ignoranton, so stop repeating your boring ranting old rat.tell us where is says spain told you to go dumb ass?? post it here imbecile.one of the court apologied us.nunez?jaaaaaaaaaaa
Jan 02nd, 2016 - 01:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0BINGO!!!!!!!
Jan 02nd, 2016 - 01:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0where, CULO ROTO?? CHICKEN!!
Jan 02nd, 2016 - 01:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Cara de orto podrido! I would be very pleased to meet you in Stanley, British Falkland Islands where, in your previous guise, you were forever threatening to visit. Just give me a date!
Jan 02nd, 2016 - 03:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Malvinas 'a constitutional issue, not optional'; plans for a South Atlantic secretariat which includes Antarctica
Jan 03rd, 2016 - 12:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0And the world thought Argentina had turned over a new leaf,
well,
you know what thought did for you..
Declaring Independence is not the same as achieving it GeorgiAnus and the UP didn't “acquire” Patagonia until the 1860's. In fact the Nunez letter even talks about BA attempting to “purchase” Patagonia from the tribes - hardly the action of an owner.
Jan 03rd, 2016 - 01:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0It could be argued that Britain's takeover of Soledad in 1833 was unjustified, but then Spain did not complain and so the long-standing dispute was settled.
Argentina was never in the game.
137# “downnunder:smaller weak neigbours, you referring to the squats??”
Jan 03rd, 2016 - 02:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0After nearly 200 years of formal settlement including habitation and culture, the Falkland Islanders are not squatters, they are owners!
GORDO:gordito come caca, me haces reir, si vos vovis en Stanley ,yo soy rey, gil, well lets meet you in Puerto argentine, Malvinas, address please, and phone if you want, may be in 3 months ill get there. ADRESS.. cagon piece of shit, te voy hacer tragar clavos imbecil.BRITON:keep dreaming on, as the ilsnad is on the constitution and macri said wont be change, and new secretariat is coming, keep eating your shit.LORTONTITO:who was controlling the Patagonia there all the time?? and thanks to roca-rosas, no one dumb shit like you couldn't entered....porove that nunez boughted the Patagonia old shit?? jeeeeee.spain diodnt complain??jaaaaa you fantazise too much lortonto... in fact and this is so funny coming form an old idot like you, that even google says you left in 1774 leaving a plaque , mother fucker.jaaaaaaaaa 59 years of absence , enough time to give up your fake claiming.prove here that uk was in the island the whole time, SORETE MAL CAGADO!! DOWNI DER:DUMB boy the island is still undr dispute and nothing were resolved yet why?? uk scre to seat down.un never said whos the owner yet, culture?? yes british borught by uk and then the corrupted fic did thje rest.keep dreaming with all these dirty idiots. brits.GORDIN: traga leche en dinde te encuentro hijo de remil recontra puta, transvesti hijo de puta!!
Jan 03rd, 2016 - 11:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0Spoken with the calm reflection of a true agento, that georgeaurus.
Jan 03rd, 2016 - 01:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The garrison left georieAnus, not the British. I can produce the import/export records for 1776/77 and 1778/79. And then there was the British act of sovereignty in 1801/02 when the French demanded a base on the islands from ..... England :-)
Jan 03rd, 2016 - 02:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Read and learn GeorgeUanus
https://falklandstimeline.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/4-1775-to-1822.pdf
@144 paulcedron aka cara de orto podrido now appearing as georgeneurus
Jan 03rd, 2016 - 02:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You really are a nut case! ¿Tu madre sabe que hablas así? I do not live in Stanley; however I am prepared to travel there to confront you, huevón!
Oh, its Pauline back. He hasnt improved and is even more of a loon than he was. Someone slipped a mickey in his Mate!
Jan 03rd, 2016 - 02:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Falkland's will remain British ,
Jan 03rd, 2016 - 06:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0as long as the islanders want to be,
and as long as we are able to
and that's the be all to end all,
So Hepatitis should pack up and go home? Right?
Jan 03rd, 2016 - 07:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I suspect Panlo 'Cabanabot' Cedron had his account blocked and had to come back with a new Username and possibly a new IP.
Jan 03rd, 2016 - 09:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@151 -- With my ISP and service in Río Gallegos I get a new IP address every time I log on, or as the provider says, “en forma dinámica.”
Jan 03rd, 2016 - 10:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0144# DOWNI DER:DUMB boy the island is still undr dispute and nothing were resolved yet why??
Jan 04th, 2016 - 12:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0Nearly two hundred years of continuous settlement including cultivation and culture mean that there are a people called the Falkland Islanders who inhabit the Falkland Islands. Their island home!
Sporadic, facile objections from Argentina do not change that fact. The self-declared United Provinces of La Plata’s attempts to establish a settlement and control on the Falklands in the 1820s failed because it was not taken seriously by the subjects of other nations and when the government of UP tried to enforce control, its ‘government’ was expelled from the Falklands first by the US and then Britain.
One of Argentina’s big problems with its Falklands claim is that, while it may have established a momentary possession, it has never been able to establish “a formal tranquil settlement which includes habitation and culture that is needed to establish dominion.” (Manuel Monroe, the Argentine Minister in London to Palmerston in London in 1833)
When it comes to the sovereignty of the Falklands, Argentina was a Johnny comes lately and, as has been pointed out a number of times on this blog, Argentina is not Spain.
Let me bring the British back to their reality:
Jan 04th, 2016 - 05:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Oh slave of the White House, oh mule of the Jews. How strange it is that we find ourselves today hearing an insignificant leader like you challenge the might of the Islamic State. How strange it is that the leader of a small foul island threatens us with a handful of planes. One would have thought you would have learned the lessons of your pathetic master in Washington and his failed campaign against Islamic State.”
“It seems that you, just like your retard predecessors Blair and Brown, are just as arrogant and foolish,” he continues. “In fact, David, you are more of an imbecile. Only an imbecile would dare to wage war against a land where the law of Allah reigns supreme. And where the people live under the justice and security of the Sharia.
”Only an imbecile would dare to anger a people who love death the way that you love your life. Oh British Government. Oh people of Britain. Know that today your citizenship are under our feet. And that the Islamic State, our country, is here to stay. And we will continue to wage jihad, break borders and one day invade your land and all your neighbor's lands where we will rule by the sharia... Imbeciles make weak enemies.”
Well, that sums it up. Europe (and North America), are F---. And by their own hand may I add.
Thank goodness Argentina is not at war with these maniacs.
lortonto , the british business always continue till today making bussin
Jan 04th, 2016 - 05:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0, many others nations fieshed and hunted wales ariund the island even before and after the 1833 , we got many proff also of spaniars and argentines making business aroun the island,question: did this makes the island become brit?? keep sucking your dick.no I don't think you wojuld be able to proff that in 1776/7/8 uk holed the island , you just used the same link allmover again, nobody else bileieves that crap just you looser.especially when uk left a plaque in 1774 , even goggle can tell you that weak brain.gordito: as I knew you don't live there , then why you invited me to meet yoju there ,gordo grasun come pito, dame una direccion en donde estes, si es que te la bancas , zapallo. y tu mami si sabe como yo hablo,preguntale pijoso... ill wait for your reply dumb monkeydownnunder:we got there for 13 years till coward brits tookover illegally, they didn't asked , they just evicted as the same happened with chagossians dumb dimwit.uk isn't available to talk bout that ....why?? jeeee, Monroe doctrine suporeted , mexico, spain ,usa, france, knew uk intentions, everyones news appeared when usa-uk usrped national soil.usa usurped with no court permission, afer a while they releiazed and apologied , but business was common around that time , and many ships from others nation sttoped to hunt and buy stuff, the thing is no one got license till vernet ordered from bs.jewett david, took it in front of americans-engish and others , then lift our flag and no one ever made an objection, poor boy.again wrong dummy:2000 lives -horses-cow-even people in jail. yes it was a jailthere, a documntationn is in the archives when san martin ask the bs for more men to fight others wars, the gov aissted him by letting thos men form that jsl in the island to go with san martin.whos manjuel Monroe?? well another brit then....utis poseditis sound to you?? still alive today used it in the chile-argentine conflict in 1881.
155 Sussie
Jan 04th, 2016 - 06:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0just noise and insults from you, poor girl.
While you are at it - purse your lips together and blow through them, then hold your index finger of your right hand horizontally across your mouth and move it quickly up and down
- makes a pleasant fun noise like you're blowing bubbles underwater... !
I don't know who you imagine 'Bubbles' might be, it's up to you, but here's what you do with the index finger of your left hand... ready... ??
:-D
GeorgieAnus - does idiocy run in your family, or just saunter from generation to generation?
Jan 04th, 2016 - 08:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0TROYTROLO: IT WILL BE APLEASURE TO BLW YOUR LIPSAND THEN ATTACH EACH LIPS WITH CRAZY GLUE.DUMB TRANS. LORTONTITO: YOU RANTING SHIT ARE FROM A TIPICAL OLD BOY WHO SHIET IN HIS PANTS DAILY AND MAMA WIFE NEED TO WIPE OUT YOUR ASS-JAAAAA LET ME LEAVE YOU SOMETHING TO READ HERE AND FOR THE IDIOTS PRO PIRATES CIRCUS-JEEEEEEE.
Jan 04th, 2016 - 10:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.chubut.edu.ar/pensar/?p=1419
155# “monkeydownnunder:we got there for 13 years till coward brits tookover illegally, they didn't asked , they just evicted”
Jan 04th, 2016 - 11:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0No you didn’t, here is a timeline of the events of 1820:
1820 COL D Jewitt ‘took possession of the Islands’, stayed for a few months then returned to BA.
1823/1824 First attempt by L Vernet to establish a colony fails and he returns to BA. The attempt failed largely because foreign vessels refused to respect the ‘exclusive rights’ to cattle and fishing granted to him by the BA government.
1826 Vernet’s second attempt to establish a colony.
1829 Vernet appointed Political and Military governor of the Islands.
1829 The British government protests the occupation.
1831 the Lexington incident once again leave the Islands free of all government.
SEP 1832 Third attempt to establish a colony under Mestivier. Mestiever murdered when the colonists revolted.
JAN 1833 Britain removes the Argentine garrison from the Island.
You were there for about 5 years, not 13 years and Argentina never managed to establish a formal tranquil settlement due in part to Vernet’s overreach in trying to impose his control over the fisherman and because the attempt to establish a colony was challenged both by the United States and Britain.
“whos manjuel Monroe?? well another brit then....utis poseditis sound to you?? still alive today used it in the chile-argentine conflict in 1881.”
My spelling mistake, Don Manuel Moreno was the UP minister plenipotentiary to the Court of St James, he was entrusted the task of securing satisfaction from the British. But I am sure that you know that!
The principle of uti possidetis applies between South American states; it would not sustain a claim against another state, like Britain.
How does the May 1850 Convention of Settlement sound to you?? Still alive today. But of course Argentina isn’t very reliable when it comes to treaties that it signs.
(Julius Goebel, The Struggle For the Falkland Islands, 1926)
55#
It doesn't matter. All of Argentina now belongs to the Falklands, not the other way around. Eviction notices soon to be in the mail. But first there will have to be a lot of tidying-up. A Herculean task.
Jan 04th, 2016 - 11:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0@160
Jan 04th, 2016 - 12:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well if a country can't claim someone else's dependency, certainly a dependency can't claim a country. So, even under your wildly errant mind, there is no way to rationalize your claim.
161#
Jan 04th, 2016 - 01:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Well if a country can't claim someone else's dependency, certainly a dependency can't claim a country. So, even under your wildly errant mind, there is no way to rationalize your claim.”
Yes there is, just look at Argentina’s behaviour!
Argentina is trying to claim that the Falkland Islanders are illegitimate. How would Argentina feel if the Falkland Islanders did the same to them?
It wouldn’t be hard, after all Argentina behaves like a complete bastard.
@161 “...no way to rationalize your claim.”
Jan 04th, 2016 - 05:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Rationalise? Don't be silly. We are dealing with Argentina. Reason is out of the question.
The falklanders should submit a sovereignty claim on Argentina with the UN,
Jan 04th, 2016 - 08:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0it may not solve the problem,
but it will give Argentina a very big headache,
and confuse and belittle their claim a lot more.
After all, what have they to lose.
@155
Jan 04th, 2016 - 10:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“bs.jewett david, took it in front of americans”
Jewitt later fought against the United Provinces for the Brazilian Navy.
Care to explain that if he was acting for the United Provinces?
http://www.chubut.edu.ar/pensar/?p=1419
Jan 05th, 2016 - 03:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0@165 Pete bog
Jan 05th, 2016 - 06:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0Notice Georgy-Sussie is posting a spanish language source - could say anything... :-)
paulcedron/cara de orto podrido/georgeneurus/idiot child
Jan 05th, 2016 - 06:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0Nobody is interested one iota in your vulgar ramblings - why don't you just disappear again?
Moderator - good morning! Please deal with this individual who fails to respect the norms for posting here viz: ”However, rude or foul language, discriminative comments (based on ethnicity, religion, gender, nationality, sexual orientation or the sort), spamming or any other offensive or inappropriate behaviour will not be tolerated. Please report any inadequate posts to the editor. Comments must be in English. Thank you.”
@168 Gord01
Jan 05th, 2016 - 06:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0MI6 must have some reason for letting these guys ramble unchecked - probably don't want them falling off the map...
trolo tempest:use your traductor dummy, harry up very interesting things await for you.GORDO CULEADO: YA TE DIJE , DIRECCION ASI TE PARTO EL OROT HUEVON.MODERATOR PLEASE.... JAAAAAAAAAAAAA CAGON HIJO DE PUTA , TRAGA LECHE.M16 JAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA FNATASTIC DUMB BOY, LISTEN TROLO TEMPEST READ MY LINK ABD FIND OUT WHY MISSIONARIES SENT BY UK GOV TRIED TO CONQUERED OUR PATAGONIA, IGNORNATON
Jan 05th, 2016 - 11:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0Must be the deleterious effects of the cheap hierba with excessive choripan from the precios cuidados gondola. Classic Kirchnerist symptoms. There is medication available to treat it, in 9mm.
Jan 05th, 2016 - 12:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@170
Jan 05th, 2016 - 06:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Post in English please, Sussie
@172 et alia ...The link that georgeasaurus posted was interesting in that, while it was probably intended to further the usual nationalistic proper-gander about the mythical malvinas, it has a lot of material that reminds us instead how Argentina brutally subjugated and murdered the native people of Tierra del Fuego, usurped their lands, and colonised the territory. Which of course they should be restoring to the original and rightful inhabitants. In fact I'm including a description of that little project in a paper since it demonstrates effectively how the provincial (Chubut) education budget has been hijacked and used to promote political ideology over more pressing school matters (e.g., the high rate of chubutenses who never finish secondary school).
Jan 05th, 2016 - 09:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I've always liked that word, chubutenses. It sounds so much like some sort of morbid disease.
it seems lsd hit your ass cells delirious momentum with a riachuelo effect, LLAZO, and I'm not k dumy but if you meet me I will explain your smoking cheapy wee from la salada hood teeth my own thruth.TROY USE THETRADUCTOR DUDE!!.DUM BLLAZO, you not even read the material idiot, so stop wasting your ass fucking stinky tongue ranting of minventing stupidity as you are so fucking dumb ass boy.again with the cheapy concept OF HOW ARGENTINA SUBJUGATED ANDD KILLED AND USURPED THE TIERRA DEL FUEGO-HAAAA NEVER READ??? IT SEMMS NOT, TELL YOU THIS IMBECILE, papall bull divided the world bet spain and Portugal, Patagonia , latin American and all that was already part of I, so no one ever stole especially with the treaties sigend by later on uk-spain:1604-1640-1673-1763-1783-1790 respecting both nation their each coast, SECOND:native aren't form the Americas either, some theories says they come form asia, so who stole what?? third: that chubutenses never finishedschools?? ranting of a dumb ape who love to repeats anlgo ideas......well my frinds in Chubut wont like to hear your stup description, cause in uk also there is educational issue, especially in 2014 where cuts was kind of massive.even in usa education is still a problem in high schools, and if chubutnseis a desease then move your fucking monkey ass out of the territory mother fjucker, or are you a mapuche shit who loves talk crap bout us while living in our city?? listen LLASO FATSO!!! LET ME KNOW YOUR BRIT CLUB WANNABE , POST YOUR ADRESS MOTHER FUCKER I LIKE TO SEE THE PIGSTAY BEFORE TO BASH YOUR LOUSY MOTHER FUCKING FACE, FUCKING RAT!!!, again trolo tempest use traductor
Jan 06th, 2016 - 07:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0@174 Sussie
Jan 06th, 2016 - 10:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0“...or are you a mapuche shit who loves talk crap bout us while living in our city??”
Is this how La Campora Juvenil speak?
Thanks for showing us that you are a racist.
We are worried about you Sussie - take your meds.
Are you angry?
173 Marti Llazo (#)
Jan 06th, 2016 - 11:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0I think that you managed to get under his skin.
Well done!
@176 Wherein georgeasaurus is concerned, it is useful to be periodically reminded of the true nature of the average peronista, and he does this for us very authentically. You can almost sense the foaming froth and the sullied britches.
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