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Guns are our shared responsibility

Monday, January 11th 2016 - 13:29 UTC
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By Barack Obama - The epidemic of gun violence in our country is a crisis. Gun deaths and injuries constitute one of the greatest threats to public health and to the safety of the American people. Every year, more than 30,000 Americans have their lives cut short by guns. Suicides. Read full article

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  • Klingon

    Even though I am very pro gun I also support him on most of these things.
    The NRA is a joke now.

    Jan 11th, 2016 - 04:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Icepilot

    Too difficult for the average guy They only understand guys like Trump or perhaps Stalone or Willis.

    Jan 11th, 2016 - 04:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    A lot of what he says has merit but he is damaged by previous hysterical actions and the latest crocodile tears performance.

    What about the responsibility of the gun owners to keep them safely out of the hands of others? Electronic locks don't always open, have you ever been locked out of your hotel room because the electronic lock failed, I know I have on many occasions over the years. If you need the gun to function and you lose your life because it hasn't unlocked is Obama going to cry tears over you? No fucking chance.

    And how can a gun being fired in the correct sequence be a product liability fault?

    Cue the deniers!

    Jan 11th, 2016 - 05:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    There is much I don't support Obama on but this I do.

    Jan 11th, 2016 - 05:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    He's a liar.
    He's the worst Prez we've had in the last 100yrs..maybe ever

    30,000/340,000,000 is not an epidemic
    I don't think he understands nobody takes him seriously

    The best thing he did was turn most of the USA conservative again.

    Jan 11th, 2016 - 06:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard2

    Watching a WWII movie, I spotted a denier (I recognize a fine stocking when I see one).
    I guessed that Elaine #4 would be next up to check out her stockings, no matter what denier they are;
    and Chris R #3 is a man of fine taste no matter what the denier.

    [Not dead yet!
    Geoff.]

    Jan 11th, 2016 - 06:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @6 Glad you are still with us. :)

    Jan 11th, 2016 - 06:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Skip

    “30,000/340,000,000 is not an epidemic”

    Yeah... it is!

    The fact you can't see it shows how out of touch you really are.

    Jan 11th, 2016 - 08:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    8. Its less than auto fatalities and nobody says that's an epidemic or ban cars.

    Jan 11th, 2016 - 08:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    Hello GeoffWard2,
    Long time, no see, or no hear.
    Welcome back.
    ********************************************************
    lts a difficult subject.
    Although l don't like to see a public defenceless, its very hard to filter out the crazies from owning a gun.
    e.g. lf the troops(& their guns) left the Falklands tomorrow, the RGs would be here within hours. Extreme example, they are not civilians l know.
    But if you are going to outlaw ALL guns then you have to be able to account for & confiscate ALL guns.
    No use taking them off the law abiding public & leaving them in the hands of criminals etc.
    Don't know the answer.

    Jan 11th, 2016 - 08:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @10 They are not trying to take the guns away are they? I agree it would be near impossible as they are so entrenched in the culture of the U.S. and it would take a massive change of thinking. Gun owners seem incredible attached to their killing machines and some seem to need them to feel macho.

    I just don't accept the criminal argument. If we were to follow the logic of that why have any laws because the criminals don't respect them. Criminals in the U.K. have guns (some criminals) but we don't have the same level of gun fatalities.

    I don't think there is an easy answer but it should be debated.

    Jan 11th, 2016 - 09:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    They are trying to make it more difficult and chip away at the constitutional rights. of law abiding citizens.

    The debate has been over long ago.

    National polling shows there's no public outcry for any changes.

    Jan 11th, 2016 - 10:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Icepilot

    Life's tough. It's tougher if you're stupid.” - John Wayne.

    Jan 11th, 2016 - 10:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HansNiesund

    @13 It's even tougher when the stupid are armed.

    Some of the reasons Americans got shot in September 2015:

    My cousin and I found a gun. I was posing with it to take pictures to post online and unintentionally shot myself to death. (TX, 9/1)

    My neighbors threw a benefit BBQ to raise money for funeral services. I tried the chicken and it was cold. I got in an argument with them, beat them up, and shot two women. (TX, 9/5)

    I invited my neighbors to hang out but they didn’t want to, so I shot at them through their door. (OK, 9/8)

    I needed to use the bathroom, so I unholstered my gun, unintentionally discharging it through a wall and into the kid I was babysitting. (AZ, 9/8)

    I was at a memorial service and some people drove by playing loud music, which seemed disrespectful, so I shot the driver and passenger. (IL, 9/11)

    Two football players told me to leave a college party I tried to crash, so I shot them both. (UT, 9/12)

    I didn’t like the musical selections at our karaoke party, so I shot three people to death and then killed myself. (LA, 9/13)

    I thought a 43-year-old man was a squirrel, so I shot him. (WI, 9/13)

    I was having a dispute with my girlfriend, so I went to her church and shot her, her pastor, and an infant. (AL, 9/20)

    I saw somebody getting carjacked, so I started shooting. I shot the carjacking victim in the head. (TX, 9/26)

    The guy I was tailgating tapped his brakes. So I shot him. (TX, 9/28)

    I saw a guy painting a peace mural. I got into an argument with him and shot him. (CA, 9/29)

    https://www.facebook.com/ParentsAgainstGunViolence/?fref=nf

    Jan 11th, 2016 - 11:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    Tradition

    http://youtu.be/MQyoSLOlglw

    Jan 11th, 2016 - 11:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    14. Most likely democrats.

    'All horse thieves are Democrats, but not all Democrats are horse thieves.'”

    Jan 11th, 2016 - 11:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @16 YB

    “14. Most likely democrats.”

    For someone of your IQ, I see you are easily manipulated into repeating Tea Party dogma that makes no sense.

    Jan 12th, 2016 - 12:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    17. Maybe your IQ doesn't allow you to see the patterns as easily as I can.

    Jan 12th, 2016 - 12:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    18

    Then again, you are perhaps betrayed by your own IQ

    Jan 12th, 2016 - 04:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Skip

    Deluded by his supposed IQ. Haven't seen an iota of proof of it. Indeed push him too hard and he does a Nostrils.

    Oh well, at least the chances of Yankeeboy and his family getting shot are much higher than those of us that live in other English speaking countries.

    Silver linings and all.

    Jan 12th, 2016 - 10:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @20 TTT and YB are two sides of the same coin. The similarities are compelling.

    Fortunately, YB is does not think the way the majority of Americans think. He is incredibly insecure about any changes.

    Jan 12th, 2016 - 10:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Elaine/Think/Voice, My thinking on just about everything is now how the majority is shown in every poll, guns, Progs, Welfare on and on. The USA is more like me than like you.

    The best thing abour Odumbo is he's done more for Conservative America than any Repub has done since Reagan.

    Skip, you are over 25 and probably in your mid-30s and live in a group house. I wonder if your parents cry themselves to sleep every night wondering if you will ever grow up and not be a loser.

    Jan 12th, 2016 - 01:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @22 Bless you, I didn't say you were TTT, I said you were the equivalent of two peas in a pod. (You are very literal, like TTT) You think putting everyone else down elevates you. (It doesn't) You are desperate for attention. You are nationalistic to your toes about your country. You have been inculcated from birth that your country is the best in the world and everyone is jealous. (Nope). You claim to speak for everyone in your country. (You don't). You want every other country to fail so you can gain some self-esteem by being on the 'winning team'. (It is not a competition).

    Don't you have an individual identity? Why can't you own your own opinions rather than claim they are the opinions of all Americans. Are you not confident standing alone?

    Fortunately Trump has done a lot to turn people away from Republicans. You need those floating voters and they are moving out of reach.

    Jan 12th, 2016 - 01:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Do you read old polls? Trump is doing just fine, he's getting more Independent votes than the Dems and he's not even the nominee yet. Self-identified Dems are at their lowest point since Carter.
    I never said I speak for All Americans, you often do that with posters, ALL MEN, ALL CONSERVATIVES, ALL blah blah blah whatever you don't like.

    You don't seem to realize that you are usually the one that starts the fight. You are such a ridiculous, smug self-satisfied sanctimonious stupid prog. You believe so much in your “rightness” you can't see where you are so very wrong.

    Its not just me saying this.

    I don't care if other countries succeed or fail. I just point out where I think they're going wrong. Like Germany. I said it here first and you and loser Skip said I was off. Watch and learn. The dominos are just beginning to fall.

    Jan 12th, 2016 - 01:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 6 GeoffWard2

    DENIER! DOH.

    My Freudian slip must be showing. I bet it raised a 'titter'.

    Hope both you and your partner are in good health, any chance of coming back to Brazil? ;o)

    Jan 12th, 2016 - 01:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @24 All you can't stand that I call you out on your nonsense.

    I do quite the opposite to making emphatic statements.

    If I piss you off I must be doing something right.

    Jan 12th, 2016 - 02:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    You don't make me mad.
    I think you're stupid and pathetic.
    Not sure why you'd read that as being mad or upset?

    Think/Voice often did the same...
    wonder why?

    Jan 12th, 2016 - 02:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    TWIMC

    Continuing the “fine meshed” analytical line of Mr. Geoff Ward at (6)..., I will use the opportunity to educate (yet again) that youngish, haughty but ignorant Anglo Ozzie poster at (20)...

    He says...:
    “Oh well, at least the chances of Yankeeboy and his family getting shot are much higher than those of us that live in other English speaking countries”

    I say...
    Oh well, at least the chances of Yankeeboy and his family getting shot are much higher than for those that live in SOME other English speaking countries...
    (Excluding..., from the top of me mind..., them brownish/blackish English speaking Countries as Belize, Botswana, Cameroon, Chana, Guyana, Jamaica Kenya, Leshoto, Namibia, Nigeria, Pakistan, Philliphines, Rwanda, Uganda, Zimbabwe and Zuid Afrika...)

    [Not dead yet!
    Think.]

    Jan 12th, 2016 - 02:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    I think we should limit the use of autos since they cause more fatalities than guns.

    Said no one ever.

    Stupid progs can't argue facts only emotions.

    Jan 12th, 2016 - 02:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hepatia

    Yet again Mercopenguin, a British government run propaganda organ, has offered an article on which their “subjects” can use to attack the US. But we could care less what you Brits think. You place is to take orders and shut up. That is all.

    Jan 13th, 2016 - 01:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Voice

    6
    Mr. GeoffWard...good to see you posting again...
    Hope you are getting better...;-)

    Jan 13th, 2016 - 01:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    30 Hepatia

    ...as American as apple schnitzel.

    Jan 13th, 2016 - 03:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @30 Hepatia,
    Since when has an Argentino had the authority or the guts to order anyone to do anything?
    Even the Americans on here know that you are a fake.
    You are just so transparent, & also stupid.
    As John Wayne said, “you're a special kind of stupid”.
    Go back to your 25 year predictions, you're no good at anything else.

    Jan 13th, 2016 - 10:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Skip

    Oh Yankeeboy
    “Skip, you are over 25 and probably in your mid-30s and live in a group house. I wonder if your parents cry themselves to sleep every night wondering if you will ever grow up and not be a loser.”

    My father is inordinately proud of me for following my dream.

    I mean, I could have become yet another chubby, white, middle aged, guy trussed up in a suit that lives to work because money is the goal in life perhaps joking with Facebook friends how they could buy me some expensive townhouse for my next birthday.

    But honestly that is just so cliched and..... well common really.

    But hey it's working out for you! Kudos!!!

    Guess your parents just had little real ability to install drive in you.

    Guess getting shot is another thing that I don't have worry about in my life either. But again, kudos to you for living with that part of the American Dream as well.

    Aaaah Think
    You would think at your age you would have finally learnt your lesson with me. But seems not. Hardly surprising. Old dog... new tricks.... etc etc.... yawn yawn.... wank wank....

    There's a reason I said “....those of us that live in other English speaking countries.”

    Unless you know of some posters on Mercopress that hail from ”Belize, Botswana, Cameroon, Chana (***misspelt), Guyana, Jamaica Kenya, Leshoto (***misspelt), Namibia, Nigeria, Pakistan, Philliphines (***misspelt), Rwanda, Uganda, Zimbabwe and Zuid Afrika (***Afrikaans requires a hyphen as in Zuid-Afrika)”

    But considering you can hardly spell all the countries it won't surprise me that you won't find any of us that come from them.

    Jan 13th, 2016 - 11:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    If you think your parents are proud of a 30+ y/o living in a group house and still in school you're wrong.
    They're lying to you and crying themselves to sleep every night.

    If they're immigrants from LatAm to Austrailia they expected you to work and start a family 10 years ago.
    They put their lives on the line to give you a better life and you are frittering it away.
    and You know it.

    Jan 13th, 2016 - 01:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Voice

    35
    When you say start a family...I'm thinking you may not quite have thought that one through...

    No offence Skip...;-)

    Jan 13th, 2016 - 03:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @34 Well done for having the balls to tread the path you want. You don't get prizes for mediocrity.

    Careful of old YB. He insults to gain personal information so he can completely misrepresent your life. He has a limited understanding of any life not devoted to the pursuit of money and is too afraid of anything different. Whilst I know you couldn't care less of his opinion -the opinions of those you respect are the only ones that count - he is a nasty character to his core.

    Jan 13th, 2016 - 03:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Unless Skip is studying to be a Brain Surgeon or the like he'd be considered a loser in the USA.
    Just sayin....

    Elaine, Download Tinder you need to clean those cobwebs out.

    I do love love love that I live rent free in so many people's heads

    Voice, Even gays have kids now. You really do need to get in this century.

    Jan 13th, 2016 - 06:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @38 No he wouldn't, fool. Many people change direction and increase their qualifications. Others take a five year vacation. I know which one would be considered a loser in the U.S. and it isn't Skip.

    Jan 13th, 2016 - 09:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Well I could afford a 5 year vacation.
    And lived well doing it
    Just like I live well now

    I can't imagine anyone with a decent job going back to school and being forced to live in a group house in their 30s not being considered a loser.
    Most would take night classes wouldn't they?
    Or is it he doesn't ever want to grow up
    like pajama boy?

    Did you install Tinder yet? Clean out the cobwebs? You need it.
    Second thought, go to Cologne for a weekend.
    I hear just outside the train station is nice and friendly

    Jan 13th, 2016 - 10:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @40 We were talking about perception. An American would admire someone who dedicated full-time to retraining and gaining further qualifications. They wouldn't admire someone who bummed about for five years.

    It really is incredibly easy for a person from America to live well in a developing country. It is not impressive at all.

    Jan 13th, 2016 - 10:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    41. Not if they were living in a group house in their 30s they wouldn't.

    People in the USA expect people to grow up and be responsible for themselves by their mid 20s unless they're getting a doctorate in something really difficult.

    As I said, I wasn't trying to impress anyone. I went there to have fun and I did, lots and lots of fun but when it got scary I left.

    Why is that so difficult for you to understand?

    Go to Cologne and help the refugees.
    Let me know how it turns out for you.
    I wish you lots of luck.

    Jan 13th, 2016 - 10:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @42 You are speaking rubbish again. People make sacrifices to retrain. It takes real commitment and courage to work through it and come out with new qualifications. Dossing around for five years and having nothing but bitterness at the end of it is a complete waste of time. I know which would be admired.

    What is your obsession with housing?

    Jan 13th, 2016 - 10:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Elaine, world traveler, all knowing, all seeing, you are a blockhead. You must travel in a circle of liberal losers.

    If my kid quit work to go back to school in his 30s I would be very disappointed and he's be counseled to go to night school after work.

    Group houses are for kids going to school not for adults not wanting to grow up.
    Frankly its creepy that a 30 something found a place that would accept him.

    Its almost like you don't live in the real world.

    Jan 13th, 2016 - 10:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @44 You have a very narrow-mind and a tiny set of parameters for what constitutes success.

    If my kid quit work to go back to school……

    If my kid quit work to laze around for five years……….

    Which would be most disappointing? I guess your parents.

    What is your obsession with housing?

    Jan 13th, 2016 - 10:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Can't you read?
    I said above what my problem was with a 30 yo living in a group house.

    My version of success is most people's version of success and I can't imagine who'd think a 30+yo still in school living in a group house is successful.
    Most people would think its creepy.
    And the rest would think he's a loser.

    I could afford to live well for 5 years without working, playing, traveling, eating well and doing whatever I wanted.
    Not many people, unless they were born into money, can do that.
    I am lucky.
    I know that
    and most would call that successful.

    Go to the Cologne train station and help the savages you love so much.
    It may solve the itch you can't scratch...

    Jan 14th, 2016 - 02:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Icepilot

    Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.

    Martin Luther King

    Jan 14th, 2016 - 10:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @46 No, that was not the entirety of your insults to Skip. You made the following vicious comment:

    YB: “Skip, you are over 25 and probably in your mid-30s and live in a group house. I wonder if your parents cry themselves to sleep every night wondering if you will ever grow up and not be a loser.”

    To which Skip corrected you by stating: “My father is inordinately proud of me for following my dream.”

    But you seem to think you know Skip's parents but most likely are projecting your own relationship with your parents and said:

    YB “If you think your parents are proud of a 30+ y/o living in a group house and still in school you're wrong.
    They're lying to you and crying themselves to sleep every night.”

    You have huge issues you project all over this message board. In your last post you stated:

    “I can't imagine who'd think a 30+yo still in school living in a group house is successful.
    Most people would think its creepy.
    And the rest would think he's a loser.”

    Completely failing to understand that Skip in not STILL in school but had the courage to change direction in life and retrain. Huge respect to Skip as most people would be too afraid to make the sacrifices involved in doing that - including shared housing.

    You, on the other hand claim to like work but wasted five whole years of your life dossing with '5 or 6 staff', you claim. Really? What on earth would one grown-up man need with '5 or 6 staff waiting on him? Lazy much.

    Skip has told us how proud his father is of him but we haven't heard your parents are proud of their lazy son wasting away the best years of his life.

    What is your obsession with property? Is that your benchmark for success? Living alone in a big house?

    Jan 14th, 2016 - 10:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Clearly you read through the whole thread. I am sorry you don't have good reading comprehension.

    My Staff in Argentina:
    Maid
    Cook
    Driver
    Gardener
    Intern

    All very much needed and easily affordable.
    I've never in my life cleaned my own house. The driver was mainly for protection. I had 25 hectares/pool/tennis courts so too much for me to handle. Cook...obvious and Intern so I didn't have to stand it lines to pay bills and do errands.
    You must know how everything in Argentina or any 3rd world country takes 10X longer to do anything than it does in the UK or USA. Why if I had the $ would I spend my time doing crap I don't like?

    Yes STILL in school at 30 something and not shared like he has a roommate, no he's got multiple roommates in a group house.
    Instead of arguing with me and looking like a fool. go on USA Craigslist, look at apt/room shared and see how many group houses would take someone in their late 20 or 30s. You're not going to find many if you can find any at all.

    Elaine, I don't know why you think taking an extended vacation is not enviable?
    When people ask about my life they're very interested and nobody thinks its something to be ashamed of, most people are envious.

    You're an odd duck and a complete fraud.

    Jan 14th, 2016 - 12:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @49

    Cook - A grown man who can't cook for himself? Now that is sad. (Did your Intern have to feed you?)

    Driver - You can't drive? You need security? What a baby. I never needed security.

    Gardner and Maid - Reasonable

    Intern - Hahahaha. You mean errand boy.

    'Very affordable' Of course it is in a developing country. That is why it not impressive, though you seem to want to brag about it like it is an achievement.

    'I don't know why you think taking an extended vacation is not enviable?' Of course you don't Mr. Bragger. Nothing about you is enviable though you crave it so much. Five wasted years.

    What is your problem with Skip making something of his life? You think putting other people down elevates you but it just makes you look a complete prick.

    This obsession you have with housing is peculiar. Is it your trade?

    Jan 14th, 2016 - 01:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    I don't have an obsession with housing but you obviously do. I wouldn't bring it up but you keep asking about it.

    I think the cook was U$150/mo or about the same as 1 nice dinner for two at a decent restaurant. Total luxury and totally worth it.

    He called himself an intern and it did get him his next job practicing his English everyday. He's doing well now living in UK. He was so lucky to escape.

    Its not bragging if you answer a question is it?

    I don't have a problem with Skip. I will never meet him. I don't care about him.

    Like you, he's always the ones that starts something and I am not one to back down.

    Your shaming doesn't work on me and it has you absolutely insane.

    Thanks for thinking about me.

    When are you going to Cologne to help the needy peaceful refugees?

    Jan 14th, 2016 - 01:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @51 I don't need to shame you, sleazy boy, you do it yourself.

    Jan 14th, 2016 - 01:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    You try but fail.
    I imagine you're used to it.

    BTW keep in mind and I know you're not very smart but when I answer a question honestly it's not bragging. The parts of my life I have told people about are always an honest answer to a question.

    If you think that bragging that says more about you than me.

    You're used to being able to shame people or use emotions as a weapon rather than use facts.
    Doesn't work with me.

    Jan 14th, 2016 - 02:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @53 Your own words shame you. I just tee you up and you do the rest.

    Jan 14th, 2016 - 02:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Except I don't feel ashamed of anything I've posted.
    If I did do you really think I'd keep on posting?

    Clearly you don't know any better.

    Jan 14th, 2016 - 02:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    Anyone else notice that Mr. Chronic has gone to ground and is staying there, ever since he was called out by Derke Blake?

    Mr Derke Blake announced he will be at O'Hare today and would gladly accept a lift and a meeting with his Chicago host as so generously and ostentatiously offered to a complete stranger by Mr Chronic.

    'Chronically' in Mr. YB's shadow until just very recently, but where is he to be found now?

    Jan 14th, 2016 - 02:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @56 Quite. As I said he is all mouth and trousers. Just like sleazyboy.

    @56 'Except I don't feel ashamed of anything I've posted'. Of course you don't. If you had any decency you wouldn't post the repugnant insults you so favour.

    'If I did do you really think I'd keep on posting?' Yes because you desperately need this and lack a conscience.

    Keep posting. Everyone here can see what you are.

    Jan 14th, 2016 - 02:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Icepilot

    This forum seems to be a place for people to have serious personal arguments. The 'I am' losers and braggers are under sniper fire constantly. You need to be careful in case you overstress them and they burst a blood vessel. Whilst not doubting the justice of this treatment I am sure their carers will take a dim view of it and no doubt wheel them off to the TV room.

    Jan 14th, 2016 - 02:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Elaine, All the ridiculous tripe you post about me you should be saying in front of a mirror.

    I just was thinking about you and Skip chiding me about the savages they let into Germany.
    Funny how your tune has changed
    Not only are you stupid you're a fraud.

    Troy, I'm not Chronic. I do love his posts though.

    58. I also worry about Elaine bursting a blood vessel. How was your vacation Stevie? Quite familiar with the TV room are you?

    Jan 14th, 2016 - 03:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @58 It is unseemly but necessary.

    @59 Please, sleazyboy, try thinking about something else.

    Jan 14th, 2016 - 03:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    YB

    As I was saying,

    Black Hawk down, Black Hawk down!

    Jan 14th, 2016 - 03:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Icepilot

    Stevie? Is that someone else that was having a poke at you? From what has been alleged and your responses sounds like you deserve it. But then you do claim to be a yank - known the world over for over inflated egos, and bellies, and using a fork as a shovel!

    Jan 14th, 2016 - 03:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Our Egos are the appropriate size.
    We are rich

    I don't think we're fatter than Mexicans, Germans or Brits.

    At least from what I've seen.

    Jan 14th, 2016 - 06:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Icepilot

    You havent travelled far have you, America holds the world cup in fatness, its even worse than Chile! America even has cops the shape of soccer balls, that isnt allowed in Europe. America also holds tbe prize for the worlds worst food which it exports all over the world. That is very strange. Colonel Sanders face is more widespread than Chairman Maos in China. America is the primary source of the worlds fatness.

    Jan 14th, 2016 - 07:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    64. I've been to 30+ countries. There's plenty of fat people everywhere I've been.

    KFC, MCD, etc. It just goes to show you how well accepted aand sought after American products are across the globe.
    Seems like everyone wants what we have.

    Jan 14th, 2016 - 08:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Icepilot

    “Seems like everyone wants what we have.” Delusional too!

    Laughed at and pitied would be more accurate, especially as so many of you have to carry guns to feel safe.

    Jan 14th, 2016 - 11:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Whatever, loser.

    You may not like us but we will be the richest most powerful nation long after your ggg grandchildren are dead.

    Good luck living in whatever sh*thole you come from.

    Jan 14th, 2016 - 11:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hepatia

    http://en.mercopress.com/2016/01/11/guns-are-our-shared-responsibility#comment427132: Seems that you are a magnet for fat people, probably a result of your attractive personality.

    Jan 15th, 2016 - 02:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @68 hep-C

    Whoa ... Heppy...!

    Just a day after you were saying YOU were an American too!

    Jan 15th, 2016 - 03:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Heisenbergcontext

    From a smart redneck:

    Saturday Night Special

    Two feet they come a creepin'
    Like a black cat do
    And two bodies are layin' naked
    A creeper thinks he got nothin' to lose
    So he creeps into the house, yeah
    And he unlocks the door
    And as a man's reaching for his trousers
    Shoots him full of .38 holes

    Mr Saturday night special
    Got a barrel that's blue and cold
    Ain't good for nothin'
    But put a man six feet in a hole

    Big Jim's been drinkin' whiskey
    And playin' poker on a losin' night
    And pretty soon ol' Jim start's a thinkin'
    Somebody been cheatin' and lyin'
    So Big Jim commence to fightin'
    I wouldn't tell you no lie
    Big Jim done pulled his pistol
    Shot his friend right between the eyes

    Mr Saturday night special
    Got a barrel that's blue and cold
    Ain't good for nothin'
    But put a man six feet in a hole

    Oh, it's the Saturday night special, for twenty dollars you can buy one too

    Hand guns are made for killin'
    They ain't no good for nothin' else
    And if you like to drink your whiskey
    You might even shoot yourself
    So why don't we dump 'em people
    To the bottom of the sea
    Before some fool come 'round here
    Wanna shoot either you or me

    Mr Saturday night special
    You got a barrel that's blue and cool
    You ain't good for nothin'
    But put a man six feet in a hole

    Mr the Saturday night special
    And I'd like to tell you what you could do with it
    And that's the end of the song

    Ronnie Van Zant 1975

    Jan 15th, 2016 - 08:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @69 Troy,
    Hepatia is an Argentine.
    @68 'Patty old girl.
    Make a little slip did we?
    Snigger

    Jan 15th, 2016 - 09:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    71 Isolde

    Thanks Isolde. I know Hepatia is an Argie - I like to point out her inconsistencies to her.Hep is not very clever, but quite tiresome.
    More than one of our “American” posters is not what they claim to be.

    Hope you had a good Christmas and you're enjoying your summer.

    Troy

    Jan 15th, 2016 - 04:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    CAD$ $0.69 and falling.
    :)

    Anyone know when they'll turn out the lights in Alberta?

    Jan 15th, 2016 - 04:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    73

    yawn...

    exporting products and selling for USD - good for me

    Jan 15th, 2016 - 06:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Looks like Canada is going to have some trouble with its trade balance soon.

    These are interesting times we have coming up.
    I wonder how many people realize it...

    Jan 15th, 2016 - 11:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captainsilver

    Trump and Cruz, Hillary's dream team. Bahahahaha

    Jan 16th, 2016 - 10:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    76. She's most likely going to lose NH and Iowa. I will be very surprised if she's the nominee. 2 FBI investigations with 150 agents assigned.
    Dems are getting desperate...

    Jan 16th, 2016 - 01:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captainsilver

    Err.. Don't you mean Republicans are getting desperate. Looks like a wipeout - again!

    Jan 16th, 2016 - 07:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Not by the polling it doesn't.

    Even Trump is polling 20% of self declared Dems
    and has about 100% of the white blue collars...

    The Dems are trying hard to corral the cats of the various and sundry dregs of society that they used to win last time.
    Problem is nobody likes Hillary
    and their ideas are spent

    They know Odumbo was their last great hope...
    alas...

    Jan 16th, 2016 - 08:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hepatia

    http://en.mercopress.com/2016/01/11/guns-are-our-shared-responsibility#comment427304: !00% of the white blue collars? Don't make me laugh. The GOP trashed them decades ago. They are dying demographic.

    I haven't heard of Odumbo. Is he some guy born in Kenya....?

    Jan 18th, 2016 - 03:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    YB

    Hepatia needs to talk to his other operators. Wasn't one of them claiming to be as American as you and Chronic??

    Jan 18th, 2016 - 03:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @80 Hepatia,
    lf you're talking of the US President(not your actual Argentine Pres)then he was born in Hawaii.
    You're not a dumb Yank, you're just not a Yank, are you sister?

    Jan 18th, 2016 - 09:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    It has not idea what it's talking about:

    Frankly there's too many good articles to even reference here.
    Just use google news and ”white blue collar polling' as the search term
    Its the reason the Dems are in panic mode.

    They won the last election because they had historically high turn out of various and sundry dregs of society voting for the first minority Prez. I can't imagine that will happen again.
    Plus what scares the Dems even more is Trump is polling well with 20% of their base, good with blacks and good with latinos. They can't will with just the trans vote.

    Jan 18th, 2016 - 01:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard2

    yankeeboy #83

    I don't like the idea of you calling them the US's 'dregs of society'.
    I hope you don't mean the AfroAmericans.

    My partner would kill him if the 'damned yankee' called him a 'dreg'.
    She was an Embassy person, an intellectual and stunning.

    Jan 18th, 2016 - 03:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    Where is Bernie Sanders in all this? He seems to have a much higher profile all the time. He even agrees with things Hillary says at times - could he be the one who bridges both camps?

    Jan 18th, 2016 - 05:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hepatia

    The GOP has very little chance of gaining the presidency - especially, as seems possible, they elect Trump as the candidate. But the last consecutive two-term presidents from the same party were James Madison and James Monroe. The only way for the Democratic Party to avoid a one term presidency is for them to elect Sanders as the candidate.

    Jan 19th, 2016 - 12:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    84. Dregs can be any color.

    Bernie Sanders is certifiably insane.
    Although with the way Hillary is polling he may be the nominee. It seems this new and improved Hillary is the same as the 2008 Hillary. Who'd a thunk it?

    Jan 19th, 2016 - 12:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @87 YB

    Bernie is volatile.

    Lots of wackjob comments from fake Americans on this thread.

    Jan 19th, 2016 - 06:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @88 Troy Tempest,
    lndeed there are fake Americans.
    You wouldn't be thinking of that half-wit Hepatia, perchance?

    Jan 19th, 2016 - 09:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Bernie's campaign is running on tripling our taxes to pay for “free” healthcare very few people want.

    Hillary is crashing just like in 2008. I hope she ends up in jail so Bill can spend his time on having sex with minors on RapeIsland with his buddies.

    Jan 19th, 2016 - 12:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @89 Isolde

    amongst others.

    “chronic” has shown that he knows exactly what a “piker” is, and he uses the term quickly and freely - because he is NOT a real American.

    Jan 19th, 2016 - 04:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    My Grandfather used that word...
    He was American.

    So doesn't really prove anything.

    You all have a weird obsession of knowing where someone comes from and then not believing them.

    I believe Skip eventhough I haven't personally witnessed him boxing a kangaroo.
    or Troy eventhough he doesn't end every sentence with an Eh buddy.

    Jan 19th, 2016 - 06:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @91 Troy,
    l've never had a problem with “chronic”, l thought that he was from the US.
    Does it really matter?
    You can see that he doesn't think too much of the RGs.
    So that makes him an ally at least! lol.
    @92 yankeeboy,
    Earlier generation Americans had more in common with older generation British than modern American generations have with modern British.
    We are moving apart & if it were not for television & films then its quite possible that our languages would have evolved that much that they would be separate by now.
    Peace

    Jan 19th, 2016 - 09:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    If “chronic” were not instigating confrontation and making caustic remarks, specifically representing them as the US point of view, then it would not concern me.

    However, as the object of such unwarranted 'anti-Canadian' trolling attacks that seem so out of character for Americans, I wonder if he is lying, or what his motivation is.
    The use of “piker” is archaic and unheard of in America.

    The bragging that he can prove he is American, while insulting all those who are not, and then backing down, leads me to think he is a liar and his opinions as a real American, are worthless.

    It would be like Hepatia claiming to be an Islander and dissing Rex Hunt, and then offering to meet ElaineB at the pier in Stanley.

    Jan 19th, 2016 - 10:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Anti-Canadian anything isn't out of character for an American.

    We make fun of Canadians all the time.

    I was listening to some Canadian on CNBC yeterday talking about the loony crashing and people feeling the increased inflation already. You guys are in a tough shape. Good thing you're next to the largest free market in the world.
    Yet another reason to Thank US.

    Jan 19th, 2016 - 11:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    92 YB

    “You all have a weird obsession of knowing where someone comes from and then not believing them.”

    Why do the Trolls have a weird obsession with saying they are from somewhere they ain't?

    Chronic claims to be a Yank, which clearly he is not.

    Claiming to be something you are not, is a good BS detector - what else is he lying about, and what are his motives?

    Jan 20th, 2016 - 01:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hepatia

    http://en.mercopress.com/2016/01/11/guns-are-our-shared-responsibility#comment426738: Rubbish. George Bush is the worst president the US has ever had - by far! At worst Obama has managed nothing more than to drag us out of the financial mess that Bush left us in when he trashed the US. Unfortunately, he has not managed to drag us out of the mess left by Bush when he trashed the Middle East. But who could have done that? Certainly not McCain (and Sarah Palin!) or Clinton.

    In any case the Middle East is a European problem. The US has very few vital interests there.

    Jan 20th, 2016 - 03:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    Hepatia,
    Please limit your “observations” to Argentine domestic affairs or continue to forecast that “something”is going to happen “within 25 years”.
    Nothing else you say is believable, lol.

    Jan 20th, 2016 - 06:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    96. Motives? What are your motives? What are Elaine's motives? Thinks?

    You think too much about this board.

    98. Don't pay attention to that nutter. It lives in some sort of delusional alterverse that exists only its it head.

    Jan 20th, 2016 - 11:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0

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