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Montevideo-Stanley, an integrating and necessary air link
By Jaime Trobo (*) - For some time now we have been arguing that Uruguay must strengthen its bonds and contacts with a neighboring territory, in the southern cone, part of our American continent, where families who arrived in our region during the first half of the XIX century live, and with whom those contacts, once very intense, have waned, particularly in the last decades. Read full article
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Feb 10th, 2016 - 11:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As Argentina under a pragmatic president seems to be less neurotic there exists the possibility that Uruguay might take advantage of commercial and cultural links with the Islands.
Feb 11th, 2016 - 12:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0“We insist in the need to rekindle those links. We can't lose time, it's possible that soon, quite soon, several others will try to offer and provide that neighborly community greater contacts to mutual benefit. Chile has had a privileged position, because it has acted with pragmatism, and it is from their territory that the world can reach the Islands, why can't Uruguay do the same? For it to happen it's sufficient that authorities don't appeal to mistrust or put up obstacles to the mechanism and communication means which enable the strengthening of the relation.”
Feb 11th, 2016 - 03:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0I do hope this is published on every bus, train and taxi in Lat Am.
@2
Feb 11th, 2016 - 03:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0You speak of pragmatism, yet you would be the first to cry into the heavens in dismay and opposition if there were flights between Argentina and the Falklands. You love flights between Chile, Brazil, Uruguay... anywhere to the Falklands is great and a positive. Flights from Argentina?? Oh how dare those Argies, once again attacking the Falklands! Hypocrisy x 10
#4 - Who wants to fly to Argentina? Nothing there that the Islanders' want.
Feb 11th, 2016 - 06:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0@4
Feb 11th, 2016 - 08:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0I think the point is that the Islanders are free to choose who they link with and who they don't. Argentina would love to provide the only air route so that it can have some degree of control over the islanders but clearly the FIs don't want that - and who can blame them? Would you want to be controlled by an unfriendly neighbour like that? How is that hypocrisy?
#4: Unlikely. When flights started to Gibraltar from Madrid and Barcelona, there was general approval here, although the feeling was 'why', mainly because there are few business links between Gibraltar and anywhere in Spain outside the local area.
Feb 11th, 2016 - 08:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0The flights ended after a few years due to lack of demand: which wasn't a surprise.
Nostrils
Feb 11th, 2016 - 08:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0I would happily praise flights between Argentina and Falkland Islands.
Yet again you have presented fiction in the place of fact. Is there no way you can actually argue without resorting to either outright lies or supposition?
The current barriers to direct flights between Argentina and Falkland Islands isn't due to any actions by your “anglo” bogeyman but due to Argentineans themselves. After the war, the Falkland Islands had valid security concerns with Argentinean flights and visitors. Mainly because the last lot had invaded and shat in their post office.
Most recently your own freely-elected government that supposedly reflects the will of the people has been the greatest hindrance to relations. And more so by the vigilante gangs and thugs such as La Campora and their ilk that burn tyres, picket, disrupt and harass anything that doesn't fit their idea of how the Falklands should act. See plenty of previous examples of cruise ships and let's not forget Top Gear.
The fact that Argentina had requested and create a blockade of shipping throughout Mercosur against the Falkland Islands is another example of how this dearth of connections is at the behest of your own people.
Own up to your country's own stupidity before you even attempt to besmirch me mate. Because honestly after all these years you still come across as a ineffectual fool when you attempt to take me on.
No go on, disappear. Honestly, it is the only think you do consistently well on this site.
Got no interest whatsoever in Argentina.
Feb 11th, 2016 - 09:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0Anything that they can offer can be sourced elsewhere.
You've done it all by your little selves RGs.
We would have liked to be good neighbours but its impossible with your belligerent mindset.
As the warden said in “Cool Hand Luke”, “yo' got an attitude problem, boy”.
Isolde
Feb 11th, 2016 - 10:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0I'd say your mindset is just as narrow and belligerent most of the time.
Although the flight Montevideo - Stanley or Mount Pleasant is a mere 2-50 there are many complications to the route. The upgrading of Stanley Airport to accommodate an aircraft capable of the route to say the least. That linked with the lack of capacity in Uruguay to operate the route and then the lack of interest from neighboring countries to provide aircraft is just the beginning.
Feb 11th, 2016 - 10:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0This route requires a certain kind of aircraft that can accommodate the inability to overfly Argentinian land mass (i have tried) or use Argentinian airports as a diversion point and so in reality the 2-50 flights time is significantly longer taking into consideration this element.
The route would definitely be worth doing for link purposes, but would be costly and very complex unless things change in both attitude / willingness and aircraft capacity.
An alternative air route would be welcome, but would it? Perhaps flights to the Islands would be more affordable from the UK as well and would lead to more tourism, both for the Falklands and Uruguay? It should remain the islanders choice where flights originate from. I suspect there would be more unwelcome Argentinian visitors from the River Plate region which is a hotbed for Malvinista idiots. A bit of a dilemma for the Islanders?
Feb 11th, 2016 - 10:36 am - Link - Report abuse 04# “Flights from Argentina?? Oh how dare those Argies, once again attacking the Falklands! Hypocrisy x 10”
Feb 11th, 2016 - 10:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0Are you serious?
After all that Argentine has done or tried to do the people of the Falklands?
What colour is the sky that you live under?
Sr Trobo makes a number of good points. Of course neighbours should get on and trade freely to mutual advantage. And note the isolation of Argentina is not new. Way back then in the 30's, 40's, 50's and 60's the shipping links were the Uruguay, not Argentina, because even then they could not be trusted.
Feb 11th, 2016 - 11:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0It changed in the 70's, not because the Falkland Islanders wanted it to, but because a short sighted colonially orientated UK Governemnt forced the Communications Agreement on the Falkland Islanders against our will.
Happily that cannot happen again. We are in different times, the FCO is under democratic control, and the right to self determination is deeply ingrained in modern thinking.
Very clearly the Man From Mars would wonder why there were not flights to and from Argentina, until he took a moment to discover how completely untrustworthy they are. Not even the most naieve of people would think that Argentina wouldn't immediately use flight communications as a means of control. So we choose to trade with Chile, Uruguay and Brazil. And it is logical therefore that is where flights come from and return to.
So Sr Trobo, thanks for your friendship and brave support for trade with the Falkland Islands. We look forward to continuing doing business with you.
@ 10 Skip
Feb 11th, 2016 - 11:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0I don't often (can't think of one example) disagree with you but I have to regarding Isolde.
We are fortunate NOT to live under the maw of a bat-shit mad, idiotic peoples who waged war on us in 1982.
Plus, it maybe you have never seen the film: the warden kills 'cool-hand-Luke' with his rifle that his pet prisoner always carried for him, sans bolt, wherever he went.
Despite the new regime nothing seems to have changed as yet. It will take at least one, perhaps two, generations for that to happen if the argies(the bat-shit mad ones) died now and the indoctrination stopped today.
Flights between Argentina could spell trouble for the Islanders with Malvinista morons likely to arrive in large numbers. If Argentina wants flights a weekly freight flight carrying fresh fruit and vegetables and a few islanders only for starters would be a good gesture from the new Argentinian government. They need to build trust and demonstrate good intentions.
Feb 11th, 2016 - 11:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0Chris
Feb 11th, 2016 - 11:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0I understand all that and see your point. But mindsets have to change on both sides. And being belligerent and narrow minded as a Falkland Islander is hardly conducive when that is one of the biggest complaints about Argentineans.
I know Argentina as a whole hasn't change just because of a new government. And there is nothing to stop a return to CFK's excesses by a future government. But while the Falkland Islands doesn't actually need anything from Argentina you cannot change geography. For better or worse, Argentina and Falkland Islands are neighbours. And knee-jerk dismissals of any kind can actually be more harmful than constructive.
Many countries go through this issue. Just as the UK and many countries have experienced with Germany. Australia faced this issue with Japan who bombed us more than 100 times during WW2 and then there Changi and Burma Railway.... and yet suddenly they are our largest trading partner, buying real estate left right and centre and Japanese tourists were everywhere.
And that was 35-40 years after the war. My neighbour growing up was in Changi and never spoke a word of it ever.
Eventually you have to accept the reality of the past and decide whether it hinders your future. I'm not saying Argentina has done this. Argentina has an extremely long way to go in maturing into a nation that can stop deflecting and attempting to rewrite history. But outright dismissal of any change, however minor, won't actually help the Falklands. It will only feed into the Argentinean neurosis.
Falkland Islanders lose nothing by being optimistic.... the worse that could happen is disappointment. Argentina is incapable of repeating 1982 but it is entirely capable of repeating the past decade.
Skip,
Feb 11th, 2016 - 12:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0All very well & noble, but you don't live here & have to put up with the constant lies & whining that comes out of Argentina.
Are you suggesting that we have to “compromise” with someone who is hell bent on destroying us, just be able to live here?
They are a belligerent, arrogant nation, who doesn't like their position in the world.
Just ask ALL their neighbours.
You've changed your tune. Funny would not have thought that about you.
And mindsets do NOT have to change on our side.
Any relaxing of our defences would be immediately exploited by Argentina.
Finally, there is nothing we could do, short of surrender that would satisfy the Argentines & we are definitely not going to do that.
Best that the flights be from Uruguay and Chile and not Argentistan. I am not convinced that direct flights between Argentistan and the Falklands would be in the best interests of either the latter or humankind in general. After all, there are likely to be froth-brained argentos on such flights, and whether at home or abroad they seem to insist upon sullying everything they touch.
Feb 11th, 2016 - 12:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The same perpetually delinquent argentos that glorify airplane hijacking and school-girl terrorism
https://defenceoftherealm.wordpress.com/2014/12/29/operation-condor-1966-argentina-invades-stanley-racecourse/
The philosopher coffee barista has never lived under siege. His whole life ( and much before) his nation has been protected by another.
Feb 11th, 2016 - 12:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You might want to thank the USA for making your current and former trading partners docile and part of the USA fold.
You have a lot of gall crowing about how well Austrailia is doing when it can devote a large part of the taxes back into your economy rather than spending on defense.
That may not be the case soon enough. Its so easy to be sophomoric and idealistic when someone else is paying the bills.
(16) Way to go Scandilatino...!
Feb 11th, 2016 - 12:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0El Think, I have sought out and spoken with Cmdr Allan Aldiss down here and he said he is just 'dying' to meet you. He likes meeting people who have enjoyed reading his books. He has noticed your somewhat creepy overtures towards Isolde which have been steadfastly rejected and concluded that you and he enjoy
Feb 11th, 2016 - 01:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0very similar tastes.
@8 “Mainly because the last lot [of argento greaseballs] had invaded and shat in their post office.”
Feb 11th, 2016 - 02:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Not just in the post office but in the middle of the floors of homes in the camp, and in other buildings and furniture in Stanley as well. Which gave rise to the little-known expression, “to argentine is to shit on the floor.” It was one of many endearing features which continue to remind the more decent of this world of what the argentos are truly, in their hearts and bowels, made of. And the sort of civilising potential that these improvising amateur scatologists might be capable of bringing to the islands.
When we refer to Argentistan as “un país de cuarto mundo” there is ample justification and evidence, and it should not be forgotten, because it is in their culture, in their DNA, and in their steaming dags.
@4. The position you chose. Did Chile, Brazil, Uruguay attack the Falkland Islands? You did. Maybe if you act honestly for 50 or 100 years. And every time you abuse or insult, we'll add on another 10 years.
Feb 11th, 2016 - 02:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@16. Try to understand. You're out there at the arse-end of the world. 34.3% of your population isn't even Australian. Change your flag and get lost. Listen up, Skippy, the Islanders having nothing to prove. Havene't you given in to the orientals? Here in Britain, we can do without you. It's notable that, during the Falklands War, it was New Zealand that sent assistance. Firstly with HMNZS Canterbury and then with HMNZS Waikato. When you forget your ancestry, you are no longer a proper country.
Any flight route into the Falklands goes far beyond the Uruguay and Argentina it's the whole of South America that's problematic. You only need look on the LAN Chile route map http://www.lan.com/en_uk/sitio_personas/destinos/mapa_rutas.html to see that they don't show the Mount Pleasant run. Mercosur /Parlasur means that no one country will go out on a limb to assist. That coupled with LAN and Tam joining forces to become LATAM. Even if you could get a neighboring airline to commit an aircraft to operate the route I doubt very much if they would be able to get the permissions required nor if the route would carry the costs of positioning and depositioning aircraft weekly.
Feb 11th, 2016 - 03:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I wouldn't go anywhere near a flight Argentina - Falklands as that would be asking for problems. Perhaps somebody out there knows something I don't, but what I do know is I've looked at this in detail on a number of occasions and always the same conclusions.
A lot of FANTASY here about flights from Argentina-that cannot happen:
Feb 11th, 2016 - 03:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 01 The Arg airline would have to open communications between it and the Dept of Civil Aviation of- The Falkland Islands Govt to seek landing permits, show its aircraft complied with appropriate regulations on safety and insurances etc etc - all the normal INTERNATIONAL aviation stuff.
How will any Arg Govt allow that to happen- Falkland Islands Govt officially does NOT exist according to them?
It would also require Arg Air Traffic to communicate with Falkland Islands Air Traffic - and thus recognise it exists!
Produce Imports - would require the standard International Biosecurity Phytosanitary Certificates - how can an Arg Govt produce such a certificate addressed to a Govt it says does not exists?
How could Arg Govt Customs likewise sign off the appropriate standard International Customs paperwork on any goods?
Me thinks in reality - before there are any direct flights with Argentina - Arg Govt has to actually recognise that Falkland Islands Govt exists and is the Govt of the Falkland Islands - sadly I cannot see that happening soon!
So flights with other S American Countries will continue and develop.
@ 25 “That coupled with LAN and Tam joining forces to become LATAM.”
Feb 11th, 2016 - 04:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Screw LAN. I never liked them anyway. Fortunately there is another international airline in Chile that, when international permissions allow, could be in the running to provide service perhaps once a week or so. The trick is in removing the prevailing restrictions that call for a Chilean airline stopover here in Río Gallegos. Perhaps the Macri government will be adult enough to promote or allow a change. Maybe Chile will have the gonads for once to cancel a stupid pact. Adult behaviour not likely anytime soon.
Here is one possible scenario that could be to everyone's benefit: there is probably going to be an opening this year around November of the expanded Puerto Natales airport, with longer and wider runway and all that. The ferry ship to Puerto Natales brings significant fresh fruit, vegetables, and other perishables. It's 20 minutes from seaport to airport there. And then a quick combined passenger-cargo flight from PNT to MPN once a week or so.
as an Uruguayan I totally agree with Trobo we really like the Falklanders and despise the portenos, it would be great to have a direct flight from Montevideo to Stanley, it would be nice to visit you and from Motevideo you guys can take direct flights to Europe and USA
Feb 11th, 2016 - 05:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Weak as water.
Feb 11th, 2016 - 05:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0My guess is that you don't have a personal stake in anything of consequence.
A friend of mine marched his command across Bataan to the point that those that weren't bayonetted or actually starved to death had their physical health wrecked to such a degree that they suffered the effects until the day they died.
You may wish to make cozy with the japanese but there was a day when the aussies viewed all things oriental with caution.
Your attitude makes me wish to take a good therapeutic puke on everything that you espouse and with justification.
Some acts and the people and culture that give arise to them are outside the bounds of redemption.
People who discount the weight of history and fail to sufficiently value the sacrifices of others rendered in their behalf are without merit.
It's good that you have finally revealed and defined yourself for the benefit of all present.
@29 “...marched his command across Bataan”
Feb 11th, 2016 - 06:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Por lo que valga, I personally knew Margaret Utinsky, though it was just after the war. You may recall her role in the resistance there.
Not sure who you were lambasting in @29 though.....
The object of derision knows.
Feb 11th, 2016 - 06:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Another flight to the islands , why ? There is so much demand. Moreover, very soon they are able to leave their ghetto by St. Helena . An English gentleman like you, need not have any contact with the underdeveloped America..! Total blockade of the islands…!!
Feb 11th, 2016 - 08:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Feel the way the winds blowing, Skip?
Feb 11th, 2016 - 09:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thanks, boys.
@32 I wonder if the yappie-dog argento proposing a blockade of the islands understands that a real blockade would be considered an act of war, as opposed to the mere economic terrorism of the CFK regime. And small-potatoes Argentistan does not have an enviable record when it comes to warring with NATO powers.
Feb 11th, 2016 - 09:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0..and he bounced off into the bush - boing boing boing… With friends like these who needs enemies?
Feb 11th, 2016 - 10:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina is a pussycat these days.
Feb 11th, 2016 - 11:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Think has always been a pussy.
Think lives off the State.
Feb 11th, 2016 - 11:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It hasn't seen Argentina since the 70s.
Much like Reekie
Neither one of them has ever had what most of us would call a job.
Failed Marxist Terrorists too scared to ever go back home.
Railing about the evils of capitalism which just so happens to be paying for their failed lives.
Pathetic
“He has noticed your somewhat creepy overtures towards Isolde which have been steadfastly rejected and concluded that you and he enjoy very similar tastes.”
Feb 12th, 2016 - 12:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0Lucky Lucan, Skipppy-dippy, ChrisCrasR, 'hoo is dis 'ere Isolde?
Perform a search for the name in this page.
Ya' ain't gonna get one single hit outside of some punks posts, bowser. Ain't no none Isolde 'er.
Can't read, must be Argy or antipodean.
Feb 12th, 2016 - 12:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0A direct flight from Montevideo (Carrasco Intrnational) to Stanley, avoiding Argentine Airspace is by 50 km or more, is less than 1,900 km (1,200 miles).
Feb 12th, 2016 - 01:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0Start the airline using a couple of UK fighterbombers armed with napalm and cluster bombs just to prevent any, totally unspected, unpleasantness. After at most three return flights the Argentine insurance companies, together with those suddenly ocurring widows, widowers, scorned people and orphans will go ballistic demandanding free access for the flights in order to remove the consequences of Argentine actions.
'cause this leavin being Mister Nice Guy, thwy may as well remove the velvet gloves, and give them a hot, loving and juicy 2,000 pounds napalm kiss or five and give them a helping hand getting rid of some of the obsolete Pampa III jets - as a friendly, neighbourly and civilized gesture, of course.
Jaime trobo, not presentable deputy, who will never be someone important , not even know that what matters is the distance between airports. Stanley - Ezeiza , 1873 km away . Stanley - Carrasco 1876. Need I say , what is the most accessible capital in Las Malvinas ?
Feb 12th, 2016 - 01:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0I mean Stanley and not Port Argentino, recognize each community has the right to name their localities in the way they want .Moreover , I believe that the Argentine government should call the Falklands islands. While considering that you are nothing but a tiny group of British, living in Argentine soil .
#41: Childish idiocy.
Feb 12th, 2016 - 08:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0@41 Turtle,
Feb 12th, 2016 - 09:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0And you are nothing but a group of Spanish squatters living on lndian soil.
I almost think Argentina should keep pressuring it's neighbors on choking the Falklands just to prove the point that they need to talk to Argentina more than the other way around and humiliate them out of their lordliness. If they think they don't need Argentina for anything because they can go to all the countries around us, then we should close all the countries around us for them...
Feb 12th, 2016 - 10:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0No matter how horribly Argentina has behaved in recent times, the reality is if other countries are made to choose between the Falklands and Argentina for good relations, it's not even a 3 second thought... especially if Macri's more pragmatic and friendly stance with Latin America augurs what is to come with more economic benefits, trade benefits, and political benefits from Argentina.
Don't talk about it, Tobi.
Feb 12th, 2016 - 12:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just do it.
lf you can.
Loser.
44. I told Think long ago if companies were made to choose between Argentina and the Falklands, Argentina would lose.
Feb 12th, 2016 - 12:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Its proven in the O/G and Cruise industries.
Argentina has nothing to offer the world that it can't get cheaper or better somewhere else.
Macri may have some success dragging Argentina out of the abyss it was falling into but only time will tell.
History is working against Argentina.
I don't see any reason it won't keep devolving.
I doubt in a decade the avg Rg will be able to communicate with the civilized world.
Surely a better way of supplying fresh, quality food, providing cheaper air services with simple connections to most countries, especially to the main London airports, assisting in the development of all commercial and social activities, would be a very important step forward for all connected with the Islands. Directly to and from Montevideo does not make too much sense. But Buenos Aires, yes! Of course there are political and other problems to be overcome, but where there is a will there is a way!
Feb 12th, 2016 - 02:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Who are / is Turtle Twat and St.Johny-cum-never?
Feb 12th, 2016 - 02:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How long have they been out of the asylum? I bet they are argie (old school) RCCunts!
Kepi Troll: “ I almost think Argentina should keep pressuring it's neighbors on choking the Falklands...”
Feb 12th, 2016 - 03:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How about turnabout? An economic blockade by the UK and its NATO allies preventing anything from getting into or out of Argentistan?
You think Griesa made life a little difficult for Argentistan? You ain't seen nothin' yet.
@44
Feb 12th, 2016 - 04:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“I almost think Argentina should keep pressuring it's neighbours on choking the Falklands ”
Sounds like more bullying to me.
Like the invasion of 1982 was supposed to make the UK give up the Falklands to a country they did not want to be part of?
How did that work out for Argentina then?
If no one wanted to take the Islander's money for flights, supplies etc (the Falkland Islands are NOT asking for South America to GIVE them money or to sell anything to South America-the Islanders are willing to BUY from South America) then the Islander's will go somewhere else in the global market.
So your Nazi, colonialist attitude will not only get you no where, but any South American countries losing trade with the Falkland Islanders, will not place. garlands of flowers over your necks.
If you blockade the Falklands that will ensure war.
Your borders are currently patrolled by Turboprop aircraft.
You don't appear to have many submarines and ships capable of operating for anytime.
So I can't see how you could enforce a blockade or how you are going to stop what would come your way (I doubt your machine gun equipped Tucanos could catch and down Tornado and Typhoon aircraft), as a result of imposing one?
Yankee boy, Mr Bataan March
Feb 13th, 2016 - 01:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0Australia's engagement with Asia post WW2 was driven by pragmatism and necessity and it has proved to be a happy relationship for all. Asian immigrants to Australia are industrious, honest and have adapted well to our way of life and our system of government.
The Japanese military committed many atrocities during their rampage through SE Asia in WW2, the Bataan death March was but one of these. Only yesterday, in my hometown, we remembered the Sandakan death March where thousands of Australian and allied POWs were marched to their deaths, there were no survivors.
Australians will always look back in gratitude at the generosity and sacrifice of the people of the United States during the Pacific War and there is no doubt that the eventual victory over Japan was largely down to the US; however, it was an ALLIED victory and despite its diminutive size and the other military commitments it already had, Australia made an important contribution to that victory.
As Skip says many of the old combatants have had to put their differences aside and forge new alliances and friendships in order to face emergent new threats to our security and way of life. This is not a bad thing. Today Japan is one of the United State's oldest allies. So, like us, the US has set aside the past and embraced the sort of pragmatism that Skip talks about in his post. It's a shame that countries like Argentina aren't mature and sensible enough to try doing the same.
As far as 'somebody else paying the bills', Australia continues to make a military and civil contribution, that is commensurate to its size, in troubled parts of the world. Many Australians are concerned about the fiscal policies pursued by recent governments. But, to be fair, we are not Robinson Crusoe when it comes to debt and deficit.
You obviously haven't attended a Pearl Harbor commemoration in Hawaii.
Feb 13th, 2016 - 04:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0Montevideo es and should be the link to the Falklands. For tourism it's a much better link than PuntaArenas. I never understood the monthly flight from Rio Gallegos.If the vets want to go to the Falklands a passage subsidised by the Argie govt through Montevideo would save the govt a lot of money. S a subsidiary question how does the flight from Rio Gallegos work? For air traffic control as Argentina says the Malvinas are their country how is control handed over to MPA airport.
Feb 13th, 2016 - 08:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A flight from Montevideo would mean cheaper food for the Falklands,more tourists and might even give the Falklanders the option of a holiday in the sun in Uruguay
@53 Better still, flights to and from involving both Montevideo and Punta Arenas. Competition and flexibility. Nobody cares about saving Argentistan any money so there is no point in even taking them into consideration. In fact it's best to throw in some complications to prevent them from even visiting. They're just like seagulls -- fly in, shit on everything, fly out again.
Feb 13th, 2016 - 09:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Punta Arenas has a Zona Franca where a good many Falklanders already do their zero-IVA shopping. Many of the islanders have links to family in southernmost Chile anyway.
I seem to have upset a few people. Not that I'm worried.
Feb 14th, 2016 - 06:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0Chronic you go and puke, it will be the hardest intellectual workout you've experienced this decade.
And Yankeeboy, I thank you for your country's sacrifices in keeping us safe. I'll never begrudge you keeping up your end of the bargain.
Isolde I never said you should compromise. Please reread my post and note the ABSENCE of the word 'compromise'. I also would never argue that Argentina isn't arrogant and belligerent towards its neighbours.
However that doesn't change your attitude. Nor how it is perceived. I haven't changed my tune. I've always been pragmatic and never wedded to one way of thinking like many others on here. I don't doubt that the Falklands is scarred by its experience with Argentina. Just as Yankeeboy was scarred (and scared) by his experience in Argentina.
But if you never move on nor attempt a different path then you are actually being controlled by the event you despise so much. Yankeeboy can't hardly step outside the US these days. The world is too dangerous and scary and run by dangerous progs everywhere you look. Much safer to stay at home and experience things through the Internet as Nostrils does.
The point I was making lsolde is that Argentina isn't going anywhere. The Falklands are defined by geography. Your constant simplistic knee-jerk reaction to any change of Argentina's status quo makes you no different to their worst Malvinistas.
This article is on links with Uruguay and your first response is that you “got no interest whatsoever in Argentina”. We all get that. It is as repetitive as Yankeeboy's predictions of collapse. Perhaps you could have tackled the actual article and potential links with Uruguay?
I don't believe Argentina will ever realise its goals regarding the Falklands. But by allowing their actions to influence you so deeply, you are unwittingly being controlled by Argentina's actions.
@downunder... kenoath!!!!
Skippy, with aussie's fragile position in the world they pretty much have to go along to get along.
Feb 14th, 2016 - 09:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0Sad that they are reduced to mere survival versus flourishing with principal.
I guess oz has always been a pawn in a seascape populated by predators.
China's already took a chunk of your economy.
Maybe Japan will come back for another - perhaps next its the Indians next.
The fear and accommodation in your thinking is undeniable.
If the chinese actually require something from dunder in the future and you guys don't skip right to it - they'll just take it and no one is going to do anything material to stop them. No more Kuwait rescues. Dingos are on their own. Weak people and a weaker country. Hey but you can always get drunk with the best of them.
lol.
p.s. The U.S. and a lot of the rest of the world is less than impressed with the prattle out of newscorp and rm. First he poses as a conservative but now acts like a socialist - is this guy taking estrogen treatment? Is going to fully dejennerate for us?
One thing that I'll give rottingroadkill and I've said this before - at least they appear to bring some level of emotion intensity to the game. Oz runs on the right hemisphere even when it should grow a pair.
@55 Skip,
Feb 14th, 2016 - 09:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0Show one skerrick of weakness & the RGs will be there.
Did you read how Think immediately applauded your surprising(to me)post?
The thin end of the wedge.
Actually what you think of me, worries me not a whit.
l am not going to change my views or attitude for you or anyone else.
lf you think that l have a bad attitude then thats your problem.
lf we relax for a minute it will be taken advantage of by Argentina.
l don't know why l'm even explaining this to you, as actually its none of your business.
Fini
Oh chronic
Feb 14th, 2016 - 09:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0I'm so glad you out so much effort and emotion into thinking about Australia.
Reality is as it is.... no matter how removed from it you are.
Skippy, no one cares for your opinion.
Feb 14th, 2016 - 10:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0Go lie with your rg pals.
(55) Skippy, aka Scandilatino...
Feb 14th, 2016 - 10:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0Pragmatic??? You!!!
You surely won't remember... (you were soooo young then) but a couple of years ago..., you attacked my pragmatic position on a possible solution for the Malvinas Issue (The Åland Islands agreement between Finland and Sweden) because , I QUOTE...: It was an “OLD SOLUTION”!!!
If memory serves me right you stated you preferred a Sout-Sudan / Timor-Leste kind of solution...
Please check the position of the four above mentioned Nations in the following link...:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Fragile_States_Index
... Is that what you young people define as “Pragmatism”?
(37) Isolde, dahling...
Play it nice and cool lass.. nice and cool...You know what I mean?....
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Fragile_States_Index
;-)))
comparing Japanese enemies that become best friends with Argentinians makes absolutely no sense. The Japanese are honorable people hard working creative democratic crteois clean make excellent cars etc, The Argentinians are none of that
Feb 14th, 2016 - 11:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0No Think!
Feb 14th, 2016 - 12:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I didn't state any such preference unless you have misinterpreted my belief in eventual Falkland Island independence.
I don't believe there is any future, in any way; shape or form; where Argentina has any form of sovereignty over the Falkland Islands
In case your age prevents you fully comprehending what I have said, let me be clear: THE FALKLAND ISLANDS NEVER HAVE BEEN AND NEVER WILL BE PART OF ARGENTINA.
If that isn't clear by now then that is more a reflection on your limited cognitive abilities than my communication skills.
Chronic
I apologise if you ever were under the illusion that I was on 'your' side. As if there is some simplistic and infantile them and us on an anonymous online forum and we must choose sides without deviation.
However as you are both simplistic and infantile, your recent reaction against me is neither surprising nor particularly effective.
And finally lsolde
I suggest that if you want nothing to do with Argentineans and want to be just left alone that you probably should start by actually acting on this very theme that you repeat in a slightly different form in almost every one of your comments and actually stop.
Stop interacting with them. Stop posting to stories about Argentina. Stop replying to the creepy remarks from Think and just be content to be actually left alone.
However, if you just continue to keep posting on articles raising the topic of Argentina (even when the article doesn't concern it) and replying to Argentineans then you will have to accept being called out as a hypocrite.
I may support the Falkland Islands but that does not mean that you worthy of some blind loyalty because of that. Intolerance and narrow mindedness is not the preserve of just the Argentineans.
(62) Sorry Skippy, i was a bit wrong above...
Feb 14th, 2016 - 12:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It wasn't me you said it to...
It was to Islas Malvinas...
Some three years ago...
I quote...:
”12 Anglotino (#)
Mar 24th, 2013 - 08:12 am
@5 Falklamd Islands
Åland Islands?
You go back to 1920 and a pre-UN adjudication? You do know what happened to the League of Nations don't you?
I prefer the examples of a CERTAIN LEVEL of capacity by these UN supervised referenda:
South Sudan in 2011
East Timor in 1999
Much more recent than a 93 year old decision by an organisation that doesn't exists any longer.”
http://en.mercopress.com/2013/03/24/falkland-islands-dispute-timerman-to-meet-un-ban-ki-moon-this-week-in-new-york#comment231546
Thank you for proving me right Think!
Feb 14th, 2016 - 08:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“I didn't state any such preference unless you have misinterpreted my belief in eventual Falkland Island independence”
I clearly support Falkland Islands independence.
And have not deviated from that belief since..... March 24th, 2013.
How many nails in that English coffin have you claimed during these past 3 years? And not a millimetre closer to any result which you support.
How's that for consistency. Now would you like to talk about share prices or something..... or would you like to talk about my unwavering support for a non-Argentine, and potentially one day independent, Falkland Islands.
Independence lets a country's population control its own destiny. Now if that means a failed state then that is up to the citizens of that new country. If you were to compare the paths of both Australia and Argentina after independence from their colonial empires you would be more likely to claim Argentina is a failed state in comparison especially when you consider it had a 125 year head start on being independent.
Or does Australia's placing at 9th least fragile state compared to Argentina's 38th least placing not make the same point you made above?
Drop those stones Think before you need to call a glazier for that run-down glass shack you call República Argentina.
@62 weather-cock Skip,
Feb 14th, 2016 - 08:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Squirm baby, squirm.
Who are you to put labels on people or tell them what to do?
l may be many things but l have never been a hypocrite.
Don't remember ever posting stories about Argentina, but l have fought back to refute their lies.
And will continue to do so.
Think is more silly than creepy & is not going anywhere.
l'd worry about Australia's problems if l were you.
i.e.
shrinking industrial base(no more car manufacturing, white goods all imported).
mining in the doldrums,
Aussie dollar dropping like a lead sinker,
Chinese buying up your farmland,
Chinese buying houses & helping to push house prices out of the reach of working people,
The Liberal party's constant attack on wages & conditions,
Home grown terrorism,
The threat to raise the GST from 10% to 15%(who rules out further rises?)
Maybe 20% one day.
Aussie troops being used(& dying)in places like Afghanistan, Syria etc.
Yes my lad, you've got plenty of domestic problems to worry about, without coming on here nitpicking & moralising.
As l said before, its none of your business about our troubles with Argentina.
(64) Skippy
Feb 14th, 2016 - 09:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Every word of your above comment proves my point at No.: (60).
You are NOT a Pragmatic...
You may wish to be one, but you are NOT a Pragmatic...
You can be called many things...: Theoretical, idealistic, fanciful, romantic, sentimental, cheerful, rose-coloured, impractical, unreasonable, half-baked, illogical even irrational... but NOT a Pragmatic...
Um, tink, “pragmatic” is not a noun.
Feb 15th, 2016 - 12:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0Another of your many shortcomings.
A Pragmatist Mr. Think...
Feb 15th, 2016 - 02:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0...is what you meant...
but hey, it's damn good english for an RG....;-)
Isolde
Feb 15th, 2016 - 07:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0Finally you get it. Instead of one-dimensional answers that invariable repeat the same theme you've finally veered into something more.
Compare, contrast, critique, construct..... the crucial verbs in many a university assignment.
This is what your posts usually lack. You have a prime opportunity as a Falkland Islander to use articles to do just that: compare, contrast, critique, construct. You could tell us so much about the Falklands. Give insight into your society, your government and your civil society.
It's why I enjoy Jo Blogg's posts because they do just that. While he feels much like you do regarding Argentina, he at least offers more in one post than you do in a dozen.
As for the many problems facing my country. Why thank you for taking the time to familiarise yourself. I am capable of concentrating and forming opinions on multiple topics. For instance I support raising our GST, Chinese investment, removing subsidies for manufacturing, fighting terrorism and a lower dollar.
Thankfully the mining boom ended and we didn't end up in recession. We have an enviable amount of wealth, stability and economic growth compared to similar countries such as the UK, Canada and the US. So we can't be doing it all wrong can we?
See how easy it is.
@Think
“Pragmatism is a philosophical movement that includes those who claim that an ideology or proposition is true if it works satisfactorily, that the meaning of a proposition is to be found in the practical consequences of accepting it, and that unpractical ideas are to be rejected.”
I would say that my support for the Falkland Islands and my belief in their ability to be one day independent is entirely practical. And that any Argentinean sovereignty is entirely unpractical considering their own actions in alienating the Island population and international law.
Argentina's sovereignty claim is not some fait accompli just because of its longevity.
Ever thought Mrs Think has been flirting with herself?
Feb 15th, 2016 - 09:12 am - Link - Report abuse 070#
Feb 15th, 2016 - 09:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0That's putting it politely!
@69 Skip,
Feb 15th, 2016 - 10:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0Well l wrote a great reply & then lost it. 2nd go!
You come across as an arrogant patronising person.
l don't need your approval to think or post anything so kindly keep your advice to yourself.
You will get no local information from me as everything about the Falklands can & will be used by the malvinistas in any way they can.
Your remarks about the Australian economy show me that you are most likely one of those pseudo-intellectuals that have no practical knowledge or experience at all.
Ever get your hands dirty, Skip?
Ever picked tomatoes in 40degree heat, in Queensland, Skip?
Ever milked cows at 5am, Skip?
l have.
Or worked in a hot noisy factory?
My brothers have.
And you like Chinese buying up your good farmland?
l didn't say just investment, but good farmland.
And you support a raise in the GST?
Your PM is having a hard time selling the idea.
l have friends & rellies in Australia & they tell me its not the rosy scene that you think it is.
Why would Joe Average like an increase in taxation.
And that is on everything this time, fresh food, education,medical costs.
All things that were exempt before.
How high would you like it to go Skip” 15%, 20% or maybe 24% like it is in Finland.
Unemployment is rising & all the Govt can do is outsource to Asian countries.
l saw on the news that they are considering outsourcing your Medicare system.
So solly mate, the indications are that Australia is heading for a recession.
My Aust shares have ALL lost money.
Even the safe railway shares.
Perhaps you'd like to have a rethink.
See how easy it is?
LLAZO: SOS UN CARA DURA HIJO DEPUTA, IN DECENT ENGLISH, JAAAAA, YOU ARE A DAGOO SHIT FOR EVER, LA PUTA MADRE QUE TE REPARIO, NO TENES LOS COJONES NI SIQUIERA DE MUDARTE PAIS HIJO DE MIL PUTA, TE HACES EL ANGLO EN TIERRA CRIOLLA, FORRO PINCHADO, SOS UN SORETE CHUPA PIJA, TE ENCANTA BAJARTE LOS CALSONES, MARICONAZO.ILSEN: WE WILL PUBLISH EVEN IN YOUR ASS, MALVINAS ARE ARGENTINES, IDIOT!.ISOLDE: NOBODY GIVE S A FUCK IF YOU LIKE ARGIES OR NOT, REMMEBER YOUR PROFFESSION AS PROSTITUTE DOESNT ALOW TO CHOOSE, YOU BIG COCK SUCKER.I DONT KNOW WHAT YOU WILL DO TO CHANGE 43 MILLIONS MALVINIST DJUMB WHORE.INDEPENDENCE, HAAAAAAAAAAAAA WHEN WAS YOUR INDPENDENCE DAY?? DATE AND YEAR?? HAAAAAAAAAAAAA YOU NPOT EVEN A FUCKIN GNATION DUMB TRANPLANTE IT SQUATTS WIHT BRIT PASSPORT SHIT.GALLAMOSA: DURING 70 YOU WAS A TRHIRD CLASS SHIOT FOR THE BRITS, NOTHING HAPPEN DURING THAT ITME EXCEPT AFTER 1982, (1981, CITIZENSHIP SHIT) DURING 70S WE PROVIDED OIL , MEDICNES, EVEN SCHOOLS IN THE CONTINENT FOR THE SQUATTS, WE MADE THE RUNWAY TOO, DUMMY.SKIP:: KEEP DREAMING BOUT FYIING TO OUR PRECIOUS MOTHER LAND, IT WILL NEVER HAPEEN, THE SQAYTTS ARE BAN HERE, RAT. THIS IOS WHAT I CALL A NATION WILL.....SUCKER.LLAZO: EVERYONE SHPOULD ASK YOU WHERE YOU FROM JAAAAAA, EYYYY EVERYONE ASK DUMB LLAZO WHERE IS HE FROMM, YOU ARGY DIRTY CRAP, MOTHER FUCKERRR.ARE YOU MOVING YOUR ASS TO THE FALKLANDS??? HAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Feb 15th, 2016 - 06:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That's “impractical” Skip.
Feb 15th, 2016 - 08:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Unpractical is so Middle Ages....
But hey, it's damn good English ......for an Aussie, so no worries.
Georgeyouranus seems to be off his medication again. Though I can't make out what he is trying to say. Anyone have an idea?
Feb 15th, 2016 - 09:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@73 georgeneurus,
Feb 15th, 2016 - 09:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Silence, peasant!
You are an imbecile.
You should be put out of your misery.
lts better that way.
Isolde has her finger on the pulse of the Australian economy. Impressive
Feb 16th, 2016 - 12:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0All I could make out was that he hates living in Argentina, would like to claim benefits in the UK and wants to shag Isolde. Perhaps it's Mrs Think?
Feb 16th, 2016 - 09:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0lsolde in comment 72 you finally get the point.
Feb 16th, 2016 - 10:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0Congratulations! So much better than your incessant whining about Argentina.
It is great to see your passion. Great to see you get outside your zone.
You've even proven my point. That you can't always understand local conditions without sometimes hearing from the locals. You are the local that we need to hear from.
The multiple topics regarding Australia you raised are case in point. Have you wondered why the GST may need to rise? You probably don't understand federal-state taxes. Where does the money for hospitals come from? Unemployment has dropped even after we sent all those jobs to Asia. And it's not like the Chinese can take those farms to China anymore than Japan could take the golf courses to Japan in the 1980s. See how much you just learnt!
And Australia's been “heading to recession” multiple times in the past quarter century.... it'll happen. But not this year. Melbourne is booming. WA not so much.
40 degrees.... pfft it is Australia!
Anyway, glad to actually get to know you more. You seem much more real in those few posts than for the past year.
Re post 73, This troll poster has broken every rule in the book for this board. The report abuse button doesnt not seem to work for me.Not only should this post be removed by the editor but he should be banned permanently. Does anyone else agree?
Feb 16th, 2016 - 01:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(80) redp0ll
Feb 16th, 2016 - 01:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I absolutely agree...
Please MercoPress take Conqueror too...
Just to, at least pretend some balance, you know...
Shame to ban the only real Argentinian on here.
Feb 16th, 2016 - 02:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Not right to shut him up just because you disagree with him.
Anyway I want to know how he gets on with his claim for benefits and whether he gets to take Isolde out for a candlelit dinner.
80
Feb 16th, 2016 - 02:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We are all adults here...
I've heard worse on TV...
...I wouldn't mind paragraphs though, or even sentence breaks...
(80) redp0ll
Feb 16th, 2016 - 03:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Qué le vás a hacer, Ché...
Vós sós Anglo de la vieja escuela...
Yó, en vez, soy Ario de la ieja escuela...
Evidentemebte, a los botijas les gusta leer porquerias...
[84] De verdad, don Think de Chubut.
Feb 16th, 2016 - 04:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0weve crossed swords on many occasions over the past few years but niether of us have descended to such infantile vituperative filthy graffiti.
if thats going to be the norm from now on, ohne mich mein Freund, ohne mich.
LLAZO: DAME UN ADIREECCION ASI TE LO HAGO ENTENDER, PEDORRO CHUPA CACA, TE VA A TENER QUE COMPRAR UNA CARA EN ANGLOLANDIA, FORRO HIJO DE PUTA, TE VAS A REPENTIR DE TODAS TUS NINERIAS, CULO ROTO, LA PUTA MADRE QUE TE RE PARIO,ISLODE: YOU WORE IGNORANT , YOU NEXT...
Feb 16th, 2016 - 05:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@79 Skip,
Feb 16th, 2016 - 09:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You sound like a true Argentine.
Deflect & evade & never answer anything that is asked.
You also jump to conclusions.
l am a person of the world & have had many experiences that l don't have relate here.
The main topic on these threads is about the Argentines constant attempts to illegally take over these lslands & so that is what l have concentrated on.
lt would not be relevant for example to relate how Dad managed a coffee plantation in lndonesia.
But it was still a part of my life.
You are the one making accusations about my lack of sophistication in events outside of the Falklands.
And now its “constant whining?”
l realise now that you are not a very nice person, will not admit when they are wrong & like to deride & patronise someone who disagrees with you.
“pfft” you say. “40degrees heat, this is Australia”-- but you wouldn't answer.
Have you ever worked in it? Most likely not.
l don't need your congratulations. l need your honesty. lts sadly lacking.
Now that l have ascertained your character, l will not converse with you again.
Before l go, l was saving this one up for last.
Of course l know how Hospitals etc are funded.
Australia funded them pre GST & also funded them at 10% GST.
But now you say the GST has to be raised to “fund” services.
lf a country raises or imposes new taxes, that is not a sign that all is well.
Squirm out of that one if you can.
Loser
87.
Feb 16th, 2016 - 09:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Correct. 1 in 20 Australians receive some form of govt welfare payment. Iron ore prices have collapsed. The immigration property Ponzi scheme has been exhausted, some 30-40% of Australians being born overseas mostly from Asia. Skip sees the illusory wealth around him in Sydney and Melbourne but the governments running out of funds fast. Hence the desperate need to raise the GST. When it hits the fan it's not going to be pretty.
75 Marti Llazo asks “Georgeyouranus seems to be off his medication again. Though I can't make out what he is trying to say. Anyone have an idea?”
Feb 17th, 2016 - 11:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0As far as I can make out, george-neurondefect is trying to write:
Banzai! die for the emperor!
Good transport links to the Islands are imperative in this modern world, that’s if the islanders actually want the influx of tourists? Maybe they don’t? It’s not easy or available for those that would love to visit this wind swept but amazing place. Unfortunately, I doubt it could take the numbers required to enhance it’s status on to one of the must see places lists. It still remains a major hassle for its accessibility and for its costing. I have never seen it advertised in the mainstream media and it must be one of the best-kept secrets in Europe, which at the moment still includes the UK. The tragic part of this situation is that the flights are full everyday to Buenos Aires from every major airport in Europe including the UK. Tourists are travelling in huge numbers without a thought of conflicts, past or present unless they visit Ushuaia. Hopefully better transport connections will be made, the days of the SS Darwin are over.
Feb 17th, 2016 - 11:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0@73“MALVINAS ARE ARGENTINES”
Feb 17th, 2016 - 04:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well, you can keep your rotten vineyards with their mouldy grapes, the Falklands are British with the choice of the people that live there, and you are too stupid to prove otherwise.
“FUCKIN GNATION DUMB TRANPLANTE IT SQUATTS ”
They can't be transplanted from the UK if they ARE.BORN.ON.THE. FALKLANDS.-Dumbass.
DURING 70 YOU WAS A TRHIRD CLASS SHIOT FOR THE BRITS, ”NOTHING HAPPEN DURING THAT ITME EXCEPT AFTER 1982, (1981, CITIZENSHIP SHIT) DURING 70S WE PROVIDED OIL , MEDICNES, EVEN SCHOOLS IN THE CONTINENT FOR THE SQUATTS, WE MADE THE RUNWAY TOO, DUMMY.
You are not providing medicines now or schools. And now the Islanders have a better school than they could attend in Argentina. And the Islands Government pay for Islanders to attend UK Universities , not those kindergartens in Argentina that you call Universities (mutton dressed as lamb).
And yes the Argentines put down the airstrip at Hooker's Point-the runway matting of which was blown to shit by the wind.
So Johnsons, not your Malvinas Chunnel ex-spurts, (A BRITISH COMPANY you fuckwit) built Stanley airport that, unlike your pathetic effort at Hooker'sPoint was only damaged after our Vulcans hit it.
“ KEEP DREAMING BOUT FYIING TO OUR PRECIOUS MOTHER LAND,”
You seem to confuse the word 'Dream' with the word 'Nightmare', idiot.
“ EVERYONE SHPOULD ASK YOU WHERE YOU FROM”
We have.
If the Falkland Islanders are born in the Islands they aren't from England.
How many years will it take that rats maze inside your skull to work that one out?
@75 Marti
Alarmingly I get the gist of some of it-that kind of worries me that I think I do.
Maybe it's a good thing. perhaps I might make a psychiatrist rather than a 'thick' farmer.
Georganus still hasn't done much research-so easy to unravel-like the fallacy that the Argentines built Stanley airport.
I might be wrong in assuming that Hooker's Point Airstrip was made by Argentina from metal runway planking that got blown away.
@91 “Georganus still hasn't done much research-so easy to unravel-like the fallacy that the Argentines built Stanley airport.”
Feb 17th, 2016 - 08:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentos are great enthusiasts of inventing things that they invented.
I understand that it is an essential component of their nationalism to insist they they were the first to create the concepts of serial defaults of sovereign debt, double-digit inflation, and the curious notion that the lower socio-economic classes are somehow stigmatised when a government agency collects sufficient data to determine that their numbers are legion.
petebog: you right dumb ignorant shit you are british with brit passport living in a place that it isn't a nation yet, not even your fake sd gave you the stauts as a nation, just one party votiking for yes, DUMB TURKEY.we did it during the 70ms fucking ape, try your neurons for once only, idiot.your brain ,usless, was blown long ago dummy.fucking delude, attached to uk and then saying we got nothing to do with them fucking lousy, who told you you are a nation , then?? your fanthon ancesters?? heeeeee, weak idiot.you are always worng , trying to invent a bunch of lies as usualignorant, NOW IF YOU GOT BALLS , TRY TO BECOME A ONE NATION WITH NOTM UK SUPPORT , YOU FUCKING PARROT, I DOUBT IT, YOU NEED TO DO LOT THINGS BEFORE BECOMEING A NATION , INFRASTRURE IS ONE AMONG MANYH OTHER THINGS, AND RAISE YOUR COMUNITY, WITH 2900 WONT DO SHIT , DUMB IDIOT.DON ALBERTO:: OTRO CHUPA CACA, I WISH TO MEET YOU , IS UP TO YOU , I WILL EXPLAIN IN YOUR DJUMB FACE, DUMMY, MAKE ME THAT FAVOUR, RAT.POBRE LLAZO, SIGUE EN SILENCIO, PUTO COBARDE
Feb 17th, 2016 - 08:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@93 georgeneurus,
Feb 17th, 2016 - 08:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0l don't often swear, gorgeous george, but l'll make an exception just for you.
SHUT YOUR STUPID FUCKING MOUTH, YOU DICKHEAD.
Love, l♥
In 1973, the United Kingdom signed a Communications Agreement with Argentina to fund an airstrip on the islands. Flights took place again from Comodoro Rivadavia, this time with Fokker F-28 twin jet aircraft. This service was maintained until 1982 representing the only connection to the islands. At first, these flights landed at a temporary airstrip at Hookers Point at the east end of Port Stanley where the runway was constructed of Pierced Runway Planking. This situation continued until 1978, when a storm tore up large areas of the runway, rendering it unusable. Clarification albeit probably not rquired
Feb 17th, 2016 - 11:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Excuse my outburst at #94.
Feb 19th, 2016 - 09:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0Not normally like that.
@88 Lucdeluc,
Well that saw mr Skippy off.
Don't suppose he'll be back.
How easy it was.
I get the impression that georgeyouranus is periodically let out of his cage and allowed into the day-room to play on the asylum's computer.
Feb 19th, 2016 - 01:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Though he seems to be increasingly resistant to the medication.
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