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Falklands/Malvinas, an advance to celebrate
By Andrés Cisneros (*) - With the reinstatement of the 'impasse' on the issue of the Malvinas Islands, the Argentine government has made a wise decision. Not only because it puts in course again something proven useful in the past, but also because, looking into the future, there is no better path to the solution of the problem. It's not the mere restoration of a policy (good or bad) which already happened. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rules“to generate a climate of understanding which will smooth the way towards a negotiation that inevitably will come”
Feb 23rd, 2016 - 08:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0Inevitably? No inevitability about it.
“The solution to the Malvinas will come when Argentina is again an important country”
The solution will come when Argentina accepts the will and rights of the Islanders.
More opium for the people.
World public opinion is not going to force a self-governing population to join Argentina against their expressed wishes and democratic will.
Feb 23rd, 2016 - 08:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0They still seem to think that the future of the Islands is in the hands of Westminster.
The islands and surrounding maritime and antarctic territories and RESOURCES are very important to the UK, we are not just going to hand over out territory and RESOURCES and future prosperity of the UK to Argentina or anyone else. No matter how nice they now want to be.
1- He has also “conveniently” overlooked that here in the Islands we have been on the receiving end of 14yrs of hatred and vile abuse from Argentina- so we just quietly are to forget that and shelve it and promise overnight to become friends and forget it all?????????????????
Feb 23rd, 2016 - 08:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0These folks do just live in such a little Fantasy Bottle! It will take 10 year minimum - probably 25 to just get back to where we were as regards Islands-Arg relations pre 2002.
Yep- best solution Argentina- quietly shelve the Sov. question - and allow it to permanently and quietly fade away and die.
These idiots are still living in a fantasy. Which bit of “The matter is settled” do they fail to understand?
Feb 23rd, 2016 - 09:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0Why can Argnetineans only ever fathom a single outcome?
Feb 23rd, 2016 - 09:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0Independence comes a long way before any possibility of Argentinean sovereignty.
So if I read this right, the [Falkland] Islands are a problem to Argentina...and the feel/wording of the article suggests quite soon Antarctica will be the same problem as far as Argentina is concerned.
Feb 23rd, 2016 - 09:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0Sounds to me like a 'problem' Nazi Germany had with Poland, and then the USSR.
As long as they have this attitude it would be better for the rest of the world to take steps to ensure Argentina never has the sort of stability, growth and standard of living that anyone would expect a country of their size to have: safer for the rest of the world to leave them rolling in the mud.
@6 screenname,
Feb 23rd, 2016 - 10:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0Couldn't agree more & have been saying that for years!
Although some people here think that we should “talk” to them & “accept” that they are here & we have to acknowledge their point of view.
As l said, they've got an attitude problem.
The matter is settled & there is nothing to talk about.
“The solution to the Malvinas will come when Argentina is again an important country in the world and has robust State policies with domestic support.”
Feb 23rd, 2016 - 10:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0The solution to the Malvinas will potentially come some very considerable time after Argentina accepts the right to self-determination of the people of the Falkland Islands, leaves us alone to develop our economy and our way of life, becomes a good and respectful neighbour, and convinces Falkland Islanders that there is some merit in working together.
Or alternatively when they drop their claim to sovereignty and clear their heads of all this nonsense.
If Macri thought .. “well 1850 peace treaty of perfect peace is clear.. The Falklands were legally British”.. it would be against the Constitution for him to say that, he is obliged to either defend the 1940´s invented claim to the Falklands or change the Constitution. Forty years of indoctrination were the cause of the 1982 war because they made it possible, a tool for the dictator.
Feb 23rd, 2016 - 11:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0Talks aren't possible on the Argentine side. The Constitution (and pure liquid fascist indoctrination in schools) fix the outcome regardless or right or wrong.
To make a possible solution I see two things which can be done:
1. That all Argentines get copies of ALL the original documentation including the 1850 treaty, and chronicles of the events of the Anglo Spanish Naval ceremony off the Falklands in 1863 etc etc.. no “Argentine” interpretation of anything... this would generate a genuine debate and lessen the power of indoctrination. The indoctrinated couldn't object to this without blowing their cover of fanaticism.
2. Incentive and subsidize sports, commerce, student exchanges and individual friendship, this has to be done over a very long time, after all an islander who went to play for Boca was considered by some as a traitor, and then there is Mr. Peck's ordeal.. All due mostly from the hatred after the war and the Kirchner period, all of which we must put behind us.
The solution will be arrived at when Argentina forgets her ambitions of a vast South Atlantic Empire where the Islander's home and HM base at Mount Pleasant are in the way, and Argentina accepts and respects the will of the Islanders who have always in the past lived in peace and treasure a peaceful life so much.
“Advances in such very important issues as human rights, narcotics, armed violence, racism or the environment, have happened because many rulers had no choice but to yield to the pressure of world public opinion and in their own countries.”
Feb 23rd, 2016 - 11:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0I see human rights is in his list that forced “many rulers” to yield to world public opinion. I guess human rights only apply to Argentina when it suits them, which goes against the very purpose of human rights.
Another deluded old Argie Fart! They cant seem to express a simple concept in a few words?
Feb 23rd, 2016 - 12:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Civilise Argentina ( Year 3000 a realistic target)
Rejoin the world
Cosy up to the Islanders (who will be independent)
Take over the Falklands! (Err.. Against the wishes of the inhabitants?)
Bahhahahahaha What a cretin!
“A war had to happen ... ”
Feb 23rd, 2016 - 01:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Really? really?
What fuckin' planet is this guy living on? The war did not 'have to happen' , wars only 'have to happen' when an aggressor attacks a smaller, weaker neighbour and other countries come to their aid, (cif; Poland/ nazi Germany WWII, or The Falklands/Argentina)
The War (1982), did NOT 'have to happen', Argentina made it happen.
Mr. Cisneros maybe entitled to his own opinion, but he is not entitled to his own facts.
What an absolute cock-womble of a man!
I realise Mercopress is run by Spanish speakers, but it is put forward as an English language forum. The standard of translation seems to be getting worse and worse.
Feb 23rd, 2016 - 01:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“We must celebrate that the Malvinas issue, seems to be filing down discrepancies to privilege coincidences.”
This is virtually meaningless............
As a gesture of goodwill Argentina could relax its insistence on no trade or other links with other Latam countries and so the traditional links between Uruguay and Stanley could be re-established. Idont think there is animosity in the Falklands against Uruguay and indeed many Falklanders were at one time educated there
Feb 23rd, 2016 - 02:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@12:
Feb 23rd, 2016 - 03:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0With respect, I don't think this guy is quite saying what you think he's saying :)
When he says 'A war had to happen and another quarter century for several important characters of this last position to start to temper down their intransigency...', I don't think he is actually saying that the war was necessary or required or literally 'had' to happen- rather he is expressing the sense that 'It took a war and another quarter century etc etc...'
What argies don't seem to realise is that there is no “problem”. Either from the point of view of Britain or that of the Falklanders. As the years go by, better and better technology is developed. The Airbus A330 and the Airbus 330 MRTT (known as RAF Voyager) has a range of £9,200 miles. And so passengers and freight (not to mention troops and equipment) can be flown directly from Britain to the Falkland Islands. In addition, there's a Voyager already on the Falklands. Meaning that, as a tanker, it can fly out and load more fuel to an inbound Voyager. That could be carrying fresh fruit or replacement missiles. It could, for example, transport a thousand Starstreak missiles. And argieland thinks it's got a solution?
Feb 23rd, 2016 - 03:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As long as Macri or someone as forward looking as him is the president then this crap is just that: crap.
Feb 23rd, 2016 - 05:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0However, should another K, such as the supersized Max, get into power than it may come to having to deal with the problem 'proactively' and strike first.
I like what Macri has done but there are still 15M Peronista deadheads in the country. I don't trust them a millimetre.
Its still a load of old tosh.
Feb 23rd, 2016 - 07:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What's needed is for Argentina to admit it was wrong and that the Falkland Islanders have a right to determine their own future.
The Argentine settlement with Chile is a good example for Argentina to follow now.
Agreed.
Feb 23rd, 2016 - 08:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This guy makes a compelling case for an Argentinian takeover!
Feb 23rd, 2016 - 11:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am only joking! With advocates like this the Argies have qualified for the Foot in Mouth finals. How can anyone resist?
The amount of money that Argentistan spends placing those silly Malvinas signs on buses and Playstations for Max could have been used to pay all the holdouts double what they were due.
Feb 24th, 2016 - 03:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0@ 15 SauveQuiPeut
Feb 27th, 2016 - 02:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0I accept what you are saying. Thank you for your comment.
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