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UN requests to know why Argentine social leader Milagro Sala remains in jail
United Nations Working Group on Arbitrary Detention wants Argentine President Mauricio Macri to explain why social leader Milagro Sala has been in jail for almost two months. The request comes two weeks after the UN Group accepted a filing submitted by the Centre of Legal and Social Studies (CELS), Amnesty International and Andhes, a group of lawyers from the northern area of the country. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesUN requests
Mar 05th, 2016 - 11:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0UN requests
UN requests
when it suits,
what abt UN demands Argentina stops abusing and intimidating the Falkland's
and drops its pathetic claim.
“Kirchnerite Parlasur lawmaker ”
Mar 05th, 2016 - 11:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0I am having difficulty with that phrase. To laugh, or to cry?
Will no-one think of the children? What a god-forsaken land this has become.
I think Macri has an immense job on his hands, far bigger in reality than just the economy whilst he has the 15M Kircherner and Peronista scum to deal with.
Mar 05th, 2016 - 12:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Executing the 'leaders' would see the rest run away or keep their mouths shut. Cowards don't like the threat of personal injury.
Geeeeeeeeeee.......
Mar 05th, 2016 - 12:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Three Anglo comments above... one more stupid than the other...
Now, above that beautiful Negra Colla this article refers to...:
She ain't alone and every day they keep her unlawfully jailed, she becomes stronger and the other side weaker...
Just a reminder to them Argentinean turnips that may be reading this...
We are NOT in 1956 or 1976...
We are in 2016 and la negrada is here to stay...
It's their Country too..................................................., you know?
Maybe Sala is in jail because she's a criminal. And because the number of charges seems to keep increasing. And because she's a criminal.
Mar 05th, 2016 - 01:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Unlawfully jailed?
Mar 05th, 2016 - 01:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So she hasn't been charged with anything that is keeping her incarcerated?
Correct Skippy, unlawfully jailed...
Mar 05th, 2016 - 01:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your Anglo “brainwash” is soooo evident...
Why don't you inform yourself before asking turnipy questions...?https://es.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milagro_Sala
@4: Well spotted, we are, indeed, in 2016. Time we all moved on.......
Mar 05th, 2016 - 03:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Geeeeeeeeeee.......
Mar 05th, 2016 - 03:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Six Anglo comments above................ one more stupid than the other...
I hope Macri stands firm and tells the UN fuck off, we're a sovereign nation. An organization that hands out a Human Rights award to Moammar Gaddafi should take a walk. Why does the UN always seem to elect corrupt 5th world dinks to run the UN. They are nothing but a piss hole in a snow bank. Elected dictators and commies all seem to stick togather. He should have used a kirchner technique on her.
Mar 05th, 2016 - 06:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Geeeeeeeeeee.......
Mar 05th, 2016 - 06:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Seven Anglo comments above................ one more stupid than the other
Just a reminder to them Argentinean turnips
Mar 05th, 2016 - 07:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0................ one more stupid than the other
Seems to me that only one idiot points a finger. Too bad Macri follows the rules, I would have paid for a green ford falcon.
Mar 05th, 2016 - 07:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Let me guess, Gaddafi earned his UN Human rights award?
Most would wonder why every one in the room is an idiot but you. It must eat you alive living under a non peronist.
Geeeeeeeeeee.......
Mar 05th, 2016 - 08:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nine Anglo comments above................ one more stupid than the other...
...This article tells the story of a brave indian woman of the humblest origins that has had the intolerable insolence to stand up and fight for her people's rights...
This article tells the story of that same indian woman being illegaly detained by the rancorous white oligarcy recently reinstaurated in her northern province...
This article's comments section is pollluted by ignorant Anglo turnips, two of them (Nr.. 3 & 13) directly call for the murder of the aforementioned indian woman...
Geeeeeee.
What a bunch of turnips!
British turnips,
Mar 05th, 2016 - 08:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0round hard and mighty robust,
tough hardy and tasty.
argy turnips,
soft soggy and weak,
tasteless dull and horrible.
turnips the choice is yours...lol
Pobrecita .......Think doesn't like free speech so he is forced to insult others.
Mar 05th, 2016 - 08:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Only eight years of Macri Think....then Vidal.
So is insults always your first Salvo of choice? Must be lonely way out in, where is it you claim to hail from, Chubut? Yes, yes and tobi is from Mendoza, yb was from some secret place in the USA...and...and.
Calling for the cold blooded murder of a Southamerican indian woman as you do at (13) and your Engrish pal does at (3) would hardly classify as “Free Speech”...
Mar 05th, 2016 - 09:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Kirchnerism doesn't seem to have any qualms about murdering those who might question their roles in criminal practices.
Mar 05th, 2016 - 09:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Geeeeeeeeeee.......
Mar 05th, 2016 - 09:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Twelwe Anglo comments above... one more stupid than the other...
What's your point? I have no problems with small sacrifices for the bigger good. Shit, my entire career was based on that.
Mar 05th, 2016 - 09:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You're like a broken record and you won, I feel sorrow for you.
We will go with Chubut as you say, 8 years of Macri will kill you seeing him take argentina out of the sewer. A failed state like North Korea is what you prefer with peronista's.
Geeeeeeeeeee.......
Mar 05th, 2016 - 09:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thirteen Anglo comments above... one more stupid than the other...
However, Tinkle, the stupidest anglo comment is still a great deal more meaningful than the most clever of argento comments.
Mar 06th, 2016 - 12:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0Think
Mar 06th, 2016 - 10:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0You seem quite agitated. Perhaps you should calm down because you really aren't saying anything.
I asked if she was being incarcerated because she had been charged with something. Wikipedia is hardly a worthwhile reference. Even I can update her page if I so desired.
Calling foreigners turnips or names because your own politicians are incarcerating innocent people as political prisoners is a reflection on YOUR country not mine.
You vocally supported a government that for a decade eroded civil liberties and civil society by browbeating any dissent and the use of vigilantism through groups such as La Campora.
And NOW you get agitated because of the consequences.
Welcome to reality. It must hurt.
“... for allegedly committing fraud in a housing program and with the distribution of federal funds”
Mar 06th, 2016 - 11:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0I always thought fraud was a crime. Could that be why she is jailed?
(23) Skippy
Mar 06th, 2016 - 11:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0Stop trying to sound cool and try for once to Think out of your brainwashed Anglo box, boy...
1) “I aren't saying anyting”, you say???... Can't you read, boy???
I'm saying that two Anglo turnips in here (Posters No. 3 & 13) openly call for the murder of the Indigenous activist woman this article is about...
An open call for murder on Internet..., that happens to be a grave felony in their respective countries...
2) Wikipedia pages are a valuable starting point for almost any information gathering because of three main reasons...:
a) Contrary to other “serious” sources, it is subjected to constant, real time peer reviews...
b) In parallel with other “serious” sources, it offers a wealth of references and links...
c) Wikipedia offers any discerning, thinking individual posibilities of information no other media on Earth does...
3) I will use this opportuniry to honour Berta Caceres , another inconvenient Latinamerican Indigenous Woman Activist... murdered a coulpe of days ago...:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zh9Sn9oJR94
Watch and learn, boy,..., watch and learn...
So Tinkle is suddenly concerned about how Argentistan murders its own?
Mar 06th, 2016 - 12:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A belief in wikipedia as a reliable source? Evidence of diminished capacity.
Geeeeeeeeeee.......
Mar 06th, 2016 - 12:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Seventeen Anglo comments above... one more stupid than the other...
Anyone have a green ford falcon.......think needs a lift.
Mar 06th, 2016 - 02:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your turn think.
Funny thing........you still see them in Argentina.
Shame the Working Group on Arbitrary Detention has damaged their authority in these matters. Macri should do he right thing anyway and ensure her release if there is no or insufficient evidence.
Mar 06th, 2016 - 03:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Geeeeeeeee...........
Mar 06th, 2016 - 03:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nineteen Anglo comments above.... finally some meat in the last one...!
Think
Mar 06th, 2016 - 08:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I read your comments at 27 and 30..... and you proved my point.
Welcome to the country you desired so much over the past decade. The damage to your civil society runs deeps and will take longer than a decade to repair.
But hey as long as you can ignore most articles on Argentina and just call people names on the others..... the choice of which is telling on your current disappointments in life.
Please regale us with what you have done to help this poor woman..... you've never been backward in voicing your actions and support of your passionate beliefs before.... who have written to? Petitioned?
Anyone?
Anything?
Yeah yeah I get. -insert number- -insert name calling-
Funnily enough this article doesn't seem to get many comments from the supposed Argentineans and South American hermanos. Guess they don't give a sh!t either.
Welcome to Cristina's country.
Geeeeeeeee...........
Mar 06th, 2016 - 09:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Twenty Anglo comments above.... and we return to the usual stupidity...
52 stupid comments by Twinky in just one thread. Amazing.
Mar 06th, 2016 - 09:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 012 comments above by one idiot posing as an RG, each one more stupider than the other.
Mar 07th, 2016 - 12:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0Who is surprised......not even the idiot himself.
An aboriginal woman, but a K.
Mar 07th, 2016 - 02:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0She is true to the K formula - responsible for distributing Federal funds to other aboriginals, she chose to commit fraud and rip them off.
As to Wilipedia - how much credibility can you give it when there is no journalistic integrity, and anyone can post their biased views of the truth, or outright lies for that matter, with no oversight?
Poor Think is trapped.
Mar 07th, 2016 - 03:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0He can't voice support for his country.
And he can't bring himself to criticise it either.
So he falls back on the very typical Peronist tool of attacking foreigners.
The fake 'righteous indignation' of the Peronists.
Mar 07th, 2016 - 03:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0This woman is thought to be a criminal - absconding with money she was supposed to be distributing to her people.
The K's are grandstanding, as it suits them.
Aboriginal? What is that?
Mar 07th, 2016 - 06:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0There are no aborigines in Argentina.
Also there are no indians, there are only Argentines in this country. But best of all there are no EUians and Anglos. Thank goodness we don't have that horrendous heritage.
Great party last week here in Mendoza, the winners of the Wine Queen crown are now official:
Queen: Giuliana Locowski
Vice-Queen: Rocio Silene Fuster
Wine, wine, and party. Mendoza at the best time of year.
Geeeeeeeeeee.......
Mar 07th, 2016 - 09:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0Twentyfour *Anglo and 1Troll comments above... one more stupid than the other...
* Mr. Rico's concise post at (29) is, of course, excluded from the above Turnip count...
This would be the same United Nations Working Group on Arbitrary Detention, that seems to think a suspected rapist who skipped bail and has been hiding in an embassy is also being Arbitrarily Detained.
Mar 07th, 2016 - 10:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0What was kinda funny is the people who put up the bail money were really shocked when after he skipped bail. The money was taken from them. they didn't seem to understand that's what happens if someone jumps bail.
Now we know that
Mar 07th, 2016 - 12:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0”Centre of Legal and Social Studies (CELS), Amnesty International and Andhes”
are pointless.
This scumbag was jailed NOT for President Macri. And she is jailed accused of being the head of a gang of criminals.
Because she is a crook plain and simple. Besides anyone who listens to the UN is an idiot
Mar 07th, 2016 - 12:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Geeeeeeeeeee.......
Mar 07th, 2016 - 12:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Twentysix* Anglo, 1Troll and 1 Argie comments above... one more stupid than the other...
* Mr. Rico's concise post at (29) is, of course, excluded from the above Turnip count
(42) Mr. TomKey
As much as I agree with your evaluation about the oil union in Argentina and their ridicously high vages you express here...: http://en.mercopress.com/2016/03/07/argentina-s-ypf-planning-to-cut-capital-expenditure-by-at-least-20-25#comment433038
.... I completely disagree with your comment about Milagro Sala...
Would you be so kind to post some proof or valid reason for your opinions?
Kind regards
El Think, Chubut, Argentina.
Update on corruption investigation into Sala's organisation
Mar 07th, 2016 - 01:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.clarin.com/politica/Denuncian-Tupac-Amaru-Banco-Nacion_0_1535846518.html
So, if this RG is so innocent and you are in such an uproar over this travesty of justice, why not share with the MP community exactly whatyou are personally doing to get the wheel of justice moving?
Mar 07th, 2016 - 02:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Protesting?
Letter writing campaign?
An RG march with the good old road blockage and tire burning?
Naw.......juvenile postings on MP. Probably the same shit you did when the Junta ruled, bitched from the safety of your basement, only now you have a computer.
Marti....money laundering is not a crime to Kirchnerites, it a modus operandi.
Come on Think, the alledged Argentine, lets hear # 27 and the brilliance of an IFC......Idiot First Class.
Heed some jewish advice instead of killing them:
“If one person calls you a donkey, get a second opinion. If two people call you a donkey, look in the mirror. If three people call you a donkey, get a saddle.”
Milagros Sala
Mar 07th, 2016 - 03:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.argentinaindependent.com/currentaffairs/thousands-protest-detention-of-milagro-sala-in-plaza-de-mayo/
That's hardly a secret to anyone who has been then. But I ask my question again to El Think........What have you done Think?
Mar 07th, 2016 - 04:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@43 - Tax evasion, illicit enrichment, threatening to kill two police officers, and lest we forget association with the K´s.
Mar 07th, 2016 - 04:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(48) TomKey
Mar 07th, 2016 - 04:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sorry pal, but, those are no “proof”...
And they will become valid reasons only when proved...
But, strange enough, they are almost standard accusations from the dominant societies all over the word against indigenous activists that succeed in organizing their people...
But, by the tone of your answer, I must infer that you don't give a shiat about all that...
Have a nice stay (hopefully short) in Neuquen...
Milagros Sala became famous for receiving millions of pesos to “help” poor people and for starting a sort of “parallel” state in one of the poorest provinces of Argentina (Jujuy). She, dressed up as indigenous leader, used, and abused, the privilege of managing public funds to make a sort of Viceroyalty (loyal to CFK) where people must follow her without any hesitation or complaint.
Mar 07th, 2016 - 05:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Let's say, that this extremely poor province (with social stats similar to African countries) has been ruled by peronist leaders most of the time. In addition, peronist governments ruled Jujuy from year 1983 onwards. So, poverty there, in Jujuy, is a direct responsibility of Peronist Party.
She was accused of promoting social violence when the new provincial government (the first in 33 years of a different part from the Peronist one) ordered her followers to collect their subsidies through the official banking systems instead of receiving the money cash directly from Milagros Sala's hands. This is quite strange since all private companies must pay the salaries through the banking system. The law forces both, employers and employees, to
use the banks for mutual benefits but she fiercely refused to operate this way no matter that the money comes directly from the National Government. Afraid of losing her privileges? Afraid of losing her power and influence?
In addition, other legal investigations found her suspicious of diverting money to her personal accounts and to the accounts of some of her collaborators. She, and her direct family, were not able to clearly explain some properties (houses, luxurious cars, expensive vacations abroad, etc.)
She has always being protected by CFK, FPV and by Francis the Pope. A clear proof of the links between Peronist Party and the Catholic Church that has always felt itself quite comfortable with the privileges warranted by peronists leaders.
Think doesn't give two flying fucks about Milagro. There are few if any who really care about her outside of Argentina and Think is not one of them.
Mar 07th, 2016 - 05:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@49, Once they are proven, will I get an apology for your rudeness? Doubtful. Secondly, your constant whining and crying about the same subjects are old and tiring, Thirdly, I will be here in Neuquen for many years, come visit.
Mar 07th, 2016 - 06:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Isn't 30,000,000 arg pesos “missing” from the funds she was supposed to use to build houses for her constituency?
Mar 07th, 2016 - 06:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Keep her in jail until they figure out where it's gone.
If she is part of the Kirchner crowd she's more than likely guilty.
Geeeeeeeeeee.......
Mar 07th, 2016 - 06:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thitrytwo* Anglo, 1Troll and 2Argie comments above... one more stupid than the other...
* Mr. Rico's concise post at (29) is still excluded from the above Turnip count
Just a couple of observations about Argie turnip Pgerman comment at (50)...
He says (quite condemning)..:
...”She, and her direct family, were not able to clearly explain some properties (houses, luxurious cars, expensive vacations abroad, etc.) ”
I say..:
Well....
Firstly, her most direct family would be her husband, an pensioned white middle high class journalist from the ultra-conservative paper La Nacion, Mr. Raul Noro...
Mr. Raul Noro and family have long been membersof the Porteño middle high class and his pension alone must amount to about 2-25.000 pesos. (~3.000 US, last year)
Let's now make another low guess and say that Milagro Sala's salary for leading an organization of 70.000 people is roughly the same as her husbands pension...
Would those (low estimated) 6.000 US be enough to finance that India Pata Sucia's lavish lifestyle...???
Let's have a look... shall we???...:
“ Her luxurios house in a middle class neighbourhood in Jujuy”...:
http://www.jujuyonlinenoticias.com.ar/u/fotografias/m/2016/2/1/f500x0-5475_5493_0.jpg
“Her luxurious car... a 1.0 liters, 3 cylinders Smart for Two”...:
http://www.jujuyonlinenoticias.com.ar/u/fotografias/m/2016/2/1/f500x0-5475_5493_0.jpg
“Her luxurious holidays with her hubby abroad... one week in Uruguay”...:
http://www.jujuyonlinenoticias.com.ar/u/fotografias/m/2016/2/1/f500x0-5475_5493_0.jpg
What do you Turnips T H I N K ??
PS...:
(52) Mr. TomKey
Of cours you would... “IF”
Let's think about this a bit, since Think doesn't want to, if someone were to steal loads of money, do you think they'd be dumb enough to buy nice car, upgrade their house, live a lavish lifestyle in the country you stole the money from or would you buy a place in, where do all the gross Argentines go that think they have money, Miami, PDE and would you buy it in an LLC name or a family member's name so its not traced back to you?
Mar 07th, 2016 - 07:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0For gosh sakes she's not a Kirchner who goes out and buys a U$2MM drug lord compound for her fat pig son with cash from who knows where and nobody asks anything.
Yet.
Please notice the “yet”
Ahhhhhh.... Mr. Lucifer... the pretentious Anglo Turnip & name dropper from another thread...
Mar 07th, 2016 - 07:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A pearl for you, matey...:
VWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen...”
ĹW
@50pgerman
Mar 07th, 2016 - 07:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0”She was accused of promoting social violence when the new provincial government (the first in 33 years of a different part from the Peronist one) ordered her followers to collect their subsidies through the official banking systems instead of receiving the money cash directly from Milagros Sala's hands. This is quite strange since all private companies must pay the salaries through the banking system. The law forces both, employers and employees, to
use the banks for mutual benefits but she fiercely refused to operate this way no matter that the money comes directly from the National Government. Afraid of losing her privileges? Afraid of losing her power and influence?”
If this is true and she has been distributing Federal monies and benefits personally, the door is wide open for corruption and political influence.
No accounting for who gets the money or what they have to do for it.
This is morally and legally unacceptable in the developed world.
Only K's like Think would defend this.
The K supporters are still exploiting the aboriginals and this woman's aboriginal
status, to their advantage.
How many aboriginal people did not get what they were due?
How many loyal supporters of Sala got money they were not entitled to?
@54
Mar 07th, 2016 - 07:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As a regular fascist/peronist you have never learned to discuss without offending (or trying to) people....
A Smart costs around U$D 20.000 in Argentina so, it is an expensive car and only whealty people can afford it. Not to mention the Jujuy (an extremenly poor province) has almost not paved routes. Why on the hell does she need a Smart car in Jujuy??
Her properties are also very expensive in terms of the poverty of Jujuy and the fact that she always said the media she started her life in the streets. She has never had a formal job so, the source of her money is still a mistery.
Some islandres or british people might ignore the fact that in “her territory” she, and her followers, took control of the schools, changed the programs, fired the teachers that refused to work this way and there are not argentine flags (there are not provincial symbols either). Just symbols of her political group.
Think, May I ask you one question? I need just one answer from you.
Why did Sala's followers refuse to collect their subsidies through the official banking systems? The law forces all argentine people, employers and employees, to use the banks for mutual benefits.
The very same (using the banking system) was implemented in La Plata (the Capital of the Buenos Aires Province) and it is working perfectly well.
Why is Sala rejecting the usage of the regular and official banking system?
It's very possible Jujuy fucked up and screwed the pooch here.
Mar 07th, 2016 - 08:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Charge her, trial her or release her. It's over active fear on the Governors part and it appears he fears protests. That being said, the right to protest should never ne allowed to impede of others freedoms by blocking and stopping others, commerce etc and certainly not by allowing highways to be stopped from use.
Release her on bail.
Dear All
Mar 07th, 2016 - 08:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentine and British people. Islanders. May I ask you one questions?
Why did Sala's followers refuse to collect their subsidies through the official banking systems? The law forces all argentine people, employers and employees, to use the banks for mutual benefits.
Why is Sala rejecting the usage of the regular and official banking system?
I would like to read posts about this fact.
Argie Turnip at (58)
Mar 07th, 2016 - 08:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 01) I established long ago that you are an Argie Ex-Pat Prize Turnip on all things Argentinean...
Therfore I choose to interact with you only to show that turnipidity...
2) I have made abundantly clear through the years on these pages that I am a Social Democrat of the Olof Palme / Bernie Sanders school of thought...
3) A Smart fortwo costs today about 22,000 US in Argentina...
Any medium family car costs the same... OR MORE!!!
Don't take my word for it... check it yourself...:
http://www.acara.org.ar/guiaprecios/precios.php
4) As why a woman would want a smart, little, economic, easy to drive, easy to park, dependable, convertible city car when living in a hot city.....
Well ... Search me!
5) As I explained in my above post (54)....,her income is no mystery ...
Of course in Argentina certain, um, influence-seeking people just freely give US$28,000 Smart cars to their local corrupt “social leaders” ... all the time...... as.....“ gifts” .
Mar 07th, 2016 - 08:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.infobae.com/2016/01/30/1786555-el-auto-usd-28-mil-milagro-sala-fue-un-regalo-12-personas
(59) Captain Poppy
Mar 07th, 2016 - 09:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You say...:
“It's very possible Jujuy fucked up and screwed the pooch here.”
“Charge her, trial her or release her.”
“Release her on bail.”
I say...:
What a generous change of harth since your post No. (13), Yanki...
But....
You paid for that green Ford Falcon, remember... No India Pata Sucia “returns” from that!
Could'd it be possible that you fucked up and screwed the pooch here?
But don't worry, Matey... You did it for the bigger American good!
THE REVENGE OF THE FALSE DEMOCRATS.
Mar 07th, 2016 - 09:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Conservatives in Argentina often make a great defence of democratic institutions, and of constitutional order, however, since Macri's government is in office, all his administration has done is to burn the institutions of the republic, in fact, if Cristina had designed judges for the supreme court by decree, or if she had changed laws by decree, as Macri did, everybody would have said that she was a dictator who acted like if she was the owner of the argentine state, however the critics against Macri weren't as strong, as they had been, if those decisions would have been taken by Cristina, the good thing is that unless in the case of the candidats for our court, Macri decided to submit their references to the congress, as our constitution signalizes.
In the case of Milagro Sala, according to the procuvin, which is a public entity that takes care of the cases of institutional violence, it determined that Sala's detention was arbitrary, because as a parlasur lawmaker, she has constitutional guarantees (fueros), that's why she can't go to prison, although she can be investigated, she can't be arrested, and in case that justice determines that she commited a delit, then it will be necesary to eliminate her guarantees, and after that she can go to prison, beside, the public institution also determined that provincial justice from Jujuy commited serious irregular acts in relation to Sala's detention.
I paid for nothing. And I am not charging my heart other than I now believe I was wrong, not because of sorrow or remorse. However, that being said, don't feel for one nano second that I would think twice on pulling a trigger on an enemy. I didn't hone a career for 30 years only to retire and get all warm and fuzzy glow in my belly. Besides mi amigo, the Falcon was for you, not Sra. Sala, did you mis-read that?
Mar 07th, 2016 - 09:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What would someone who doesn't even reside in this hemisphere even remotely know about American good? or good period? Your facade of the old fool from Chubut can't last forever. You don't carry the balls of your erasable convictions.
By the way, MercoPress
Mar 07th, 2016 - 09:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It is considered journalistic malpractice to crop others peoples photograps...
Hereby the uncroped version of Milagro Sala used in this article...
http://www.planbnoticias.com.ar/v2/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/papa-sala.jpg
Think, Axel Arg.
Mar 07th, 2016 - 09:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why did Sala's followers refuse to collect their subsidies through the official banking systems? The law forces all argentine people, employers and employees, either in private companies or in public institutions to use the banks for mutual benefits.
Why is Sala rejecting the usage of the regular and official banking system?
I would like to read your posts about this fact.
(65) Captain Poppy
Mar 07th, 2016 - 09:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You say...:
“Besides mi amigo, the Falcon was for you”
I say...:
Still sore I didn't want to meet you last time you were in Bari, huhhhhhh?
Will be in town the 24/24 of this month...
Tell them drivers to look after a 6.2 feet, 11.5 stones distinguished older gentleman....
Chuckle chuckle...
Think, Axel Arg.
Mar 07th, 2016 - 10:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why did Sala's followers refuse to collect their subsidies through the official banking systems? The law forces all argentine people, employers and employees, either in private companies or in public institutions to use the banks for mutual benefits.
Why is Sala rejecting the usage of the regular and official banking system?
I would like to read your posts about this fact.
Never been sore or angered in my adult life, it's like being drunk. And youre in Argentina like tobi is in Mendoza and hep c and yankee boy is in the USA. As I said, you need balls to carry your pencil written convictions. You're as distinguished as a relieving morning glory......steaming no less.
Mar 07th, 2016 - 10:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Woooooooow.....
Mar 07th, 2016 - 10:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We got a never sore, never angered, never drunk women Terminator!!!
Run Sarah Connor, run!!!
Chuckle chucle...
Read booboo, read.
Mar 07th, 2016 - 11:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Think, Axel Arg.
Mar 08th, 2016 - 01:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0Why did Sala's followers refuse to collect their subsidies through the official banking systems? The law forces all argentine people, employers and employees, either in private companies or in public institutions to use the banks for mutual benefits.
Why is Sala rejecting the usage of the regular and official banking system?
I would like to read your posts about this fact.
I know that you are trying to ignore me but, please....I cannot believ you have no answer !!!
73 pgerman
Mar 08th, 2016 - 04:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0Think does not live in Argentina.
As much as I have differences with you, I realise that you have a better grasp of the reality of Argentina than he does.
Think's many alter egos include “British Kirchnerist” - a transparent K supporter
skip:stop talking shit DELUDE, she is a corrupt as CAMORON IS, DUMMY,TROY: THEN YOU CAN ANSWER TO 73 PGERMAN.WHY??LLAZO:: TODAVIA ESPERO UNA DIRECCION, HIJO DE REMIL PUTA, CARETA, PEDAZO DE MIERDA!!BRTION:ARGY TURNIPO...SOFT... MEET ME RAT. TROY TEMPEST:: IT SEEMS YOUR WEAK KNOWLEDGE OS WHO REALLY IS MILAGROS SALAS, AND IN FACT YOU ALSO CAN GIVE THE POORS LOT THINGS THEY NEEDD BY DOING IT ILLEGALLY, SO DONT POST YOUR SHIT AS USUAL WHEN YOU GOT NO MUCH IDEA, DUMMY.PGERMAN: ISNT ANY CONTACT BET CATHILIC CHURCH AND SALAS, IS BET POPE MAND THIS CRIMINALS, THAN K YOU
Mar 08th, 2016 - 05:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0@75 George's Anus and ThinkVoice
Mar 08th, 2016 - 06:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ultra K's
The whole of South American needs to find away to move on from this system whereby your treatment by the justice system is highly dependent on whether you support or criticise the government in power.
Mar 08th, 2016 - 06:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0We see it with past governments in Argentina but also in so many other countries. To say nothing of the decision by Ecuador that sexual assault is not a crime if it is committed by a critic of the USA government.
Hopefully Argentina can break out of this but I won't hold my breath waiting.
PGERMAN.
Mar 08th, 2016 - 07:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I have no idea about the reason why Sala's followers refused to accept the system that you mention, beside, i am not saying that she is inocent of all the accusations, i'm just saying that her detention is illegal, and i explained why i say it.
On the other hand,i am not ignoring you, in fact, you are one of the few people who don't insult me, to tell me that you don't agree on my opinions, i only ignore all those reactionary people who just insult, i'm not such a mediocre person to waste my time with that sort of social scum.
Well, well, well...
Mar 09th, 2016 - 10:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Good news today...
This travesty of justice is slowly but surely falling apart...
Two of Milagro Sala's closest colaborators..., two ”morochas de labios gruesos... or, as THEY call them..., negras de m..... , arrested under ridiculous charges a couple of weeks ago were set free today...
http://cb-producciones.com.ar/liberaron-a-las-dos-colaboradoras-cercanas-a-milagro-sala/
I have to agree with axel and Think on this one: Milagro Sala's detention is unlawful.
Mar 09th, 2016 - 11:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Beyond that, misuse of funds is the very opposite of what her organisation has achieved. One of their successes was to deliver a very high return of social benefit/housing per peso of funding.
Marci has done much right in the first couple of months. Will be interesting to see if he does right here.
@pgerman
I recall there was a “Negra Colla” poster on here before, who like you was very against the church:
http://en.mercopress.com/2015/08/28/argentine-catholic-church-in-the-dock-over-snatching-of-babies-during-military-dictatorship
Maybe you have more in common with Milagro than you like to think.
Thanks, hermanito Allende (presente) la cordillera...
Mar 09th, 2016 - 11:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just to provoke a bit of envidia Shilena...:
Life from Patagonia...:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=95DhKYTE1GY
That link is a apt metaphor for Argentina;
Mar 09th, 2016 - 11:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0beautiful country in slow collapse.
Or Patagonia is as boring as watching a glacier move...
Your pick.
Patagonia boring...?
Mar 09th, 2016 - 11:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No way...!
http://en.mercopress.com/2016/03/09/falklands-celebrates-tussac-tuesday-one-of-the-most-valuable-native-plants
Chuckle chuckle...
Think.....did you fly to Argentina yet to protest for her release?
Mar 10th, 2016 - 11:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0The arrest of Milagro Sala is the responsibility of the Justice of Jujuy and doen not pedend on the Federal Justice. So, the responsibilities are attributable to the Judicial Power of a Province governed uninterruptedly by peronism during the last 32 years.
Mar 10th, 2016 - 12:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The arrest of Milagro Sala has nothing of illegal.
She threatened the Governor of the Province of Jujuy to “ignite the province.” This is the crime of “sedition”. Sedition is a serious crime either in Havana and Miami. It is a serious crime in Belin, London or Pto Stanley. With the aggravation that she is a person with great political influence over a large group of people in the poorest districts of the province. So, her detention is the best, and safest, way to preventively ensure peace in the province.
Other causes, such as threats, tax evasion, money laundering and espionage over provincial officials joined the crime of sedition.
Two of her people were also arrested when they appeared in a Bank camera video in the moment that they were retiring almost a million and a half dollars in cash (in argentinos9 pesos) but can not prove, with reliable documentation, the usage that was given to this money.
There is no illegality in these judicial acts from the Provincial Justice of Jujuy.
TWIMC...
Mar 10th, 2016 - 03:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In less than two hours, a request for the immediate liberation of Indigenous Activist Milagro Sala will be presented to the Argentinean Supreme Court...
The ground is getting hotter for President Macri and his allies...
@86
Mar 10th, 2016 - 09:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0K-activist, ThinkVoice says,
“In less than two hours, a request for the immediate liberation of Indigenous Activist Milagro Sala will be presented to the Argentinean Supreme Court...
The ground is getting hotter for President Macri and his allies... ”
Geeee....
“Think” is right on top of this, and not sounding at all unbiased.
K-booster, rather than an Argentine patriot.
Why would a writ be going to the Arg Supreme court without first going through the Provincial courts and governor?
Mar 11th, 2016 - 02:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentine's don't understand process or how a system is supposed to work.
Let her rot in jail until she tells them where the 30,000,000 went.
Many here are full of joy by the new Argentine president 's offensive against a grassroots leader.
Mar 11th, 2016 - 08:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They feel that finally, “order” is returning to the country.
To do so, they woefully ignore numerous voices that point to the irregular arrestation of Milagro Sala.
So much for Macri demagogic campaign promises to unite the Argentines in the “joyful” revolution.
All he's doing is to restore the power of Argentina's most reactionary class.
To do so he's using the police, the judiciary and every opportunist he can find among friends and foes.
I say shut up or....or stop being tits on a bull in Canada and go there and protest? You can fly on the same flight with Think....image that....even hold hands and sing Kumbaya.
Mar 11th, 2016 - 08:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think not though. Life is too comfy in Canada......right Quique?
When was the last time you where within 1500 miles of Argentina? 3500 miles? 5000 miles?
Jupppppppppppppp.....
Mar 11th, 2016 - 09:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“The Joyful Revolution”
By Macri.
http://estatico.eldia.com/frontend/media/40/152340/big_b83437952b707a7045d6178337b607fe.jpg
Strange that something as important as distributing benefits to the poor, with Federal funds, should not be monitored and held to account, according to Enrique and Think.
Mar 11th, 2016 - 10:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The interests of the poor are best safeguarded by documentation and a regulated process, to make sure the recipients qualify, and funds are not just distributed to cronies of Milagro.
The Populists want no record of who gets what, and how much.
Think, Peruvians Think you are all crooked haughty untrustworthy idiots fixated by your drubbing in 1982. Why is that? They are hoping for their own Macri in the forthcoming election. Have you got ant red and white paint?
Mar 11th, 2016 - 11:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@93 ... speaking of which, Nobel literature prize winner Vargas Llosa has some fine words for Peronism and Argentina in the news today:
Mar 12th, 2016 - 12:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0“La Argentina se jodió con el peronismo” ( Peronism screwed Argentina )
http://www.infobae.com/2016/03/10/1796081-mario-vargas-llosa-la-argentina-se-jodio-el-peronismo
@94 Marti. Llosa, great man, visited his library here the other day, very interesting. With the forthcoming elections here in Peru its going to move to the right. South America has been screwed by stupid communists but the tide is now turning and the VoiceofThink turnips are feeling the heat.
Mar 12th, 2016 - 02:15 am - Link - Report abuse 091. Rubber bullets against unlawful protests.
Mar 12th, 2016 - 02:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0So what?
Good for him, don't let the rabble get out of line.
Argys always whine about consequences.
Macri wants to go back to the time the wealthy concentrated most of the resources and high unemployment forced workers to sell their services for a pittance.
Mar 12th, 2016 - 06:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0In order to achieve that, he needs to use violence to quash any resistance--in the same way past governments used to do and something almost forgotten during the years Kirchner--something many will begin to regret soon enough.
It remains to be seen whether Macri can accomplish this within the confines of the tenuous democracy he has been applying so far and in view of the Argentines' freedom habits acquire in the last decade.
P.S. I used to read Vargas Llosa in my youth. But he betrayed the people that nourished his early imagination and wondered into murky waters, becoming a ghost of himself. An intellectual traitor. A nobody.
@97 “ Vargas Llosa..... .... A nobody.”
Mar 12th, 2016 - 02:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 02010 Nobel Prize in Literature.
@97 “ Macri...needs to use violence to quash any resistance...”
I am sure he will get around to suiciding prosecutors any day now.
When it comes to goons of the modern era, nothing really beats Peronismo.
@97 Enrique
Mar 12th, 2016 - 05:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As an intellectual, Llosa observed the world around him and modified his opinions based on first-hand research and learning - something YOU stopped doing when you and other Communist subversives and violent terrorists were forced out of Argentina and SA.
It seems that he doesn't like oppression of the people in any form, whether it be from the Left or the Right.
For SA, that sounds like liberal thinking, as opposed to those like you, who try to label him as “Neoliberal”.
“Like many other Latin American intellectuals, Vargas Llosa was initially a supporter of the Cuban revolutionary government of Fidel Castro.[30] He studied Marxism in depth as a university student and was later persuaded by communist ideals after the success of the Cuban Revolution.[68] Gradually, Vargas Llosa came to believe that Cuban socialism was incompatible with what he considered to be general liberties and freedoms.[69] The official rupture between the writer and the policies of the Cuban government occurred with the so-called 'Padilla Affair', when the Castro regime imprisoned the poet Heberto Padilla for a month in 1971.[70] Vargas Llosa, along with other intellectuals of the time, wrote to Castro protesting the Cuban political system and its imprisonment of the artist.[71] Vargas Llosa has identified himself with liberalism rather than extreme left-wing political ideologies ever since.[72] Since he relinquished his earlier leftism, he has opposed both left- and right-wing authoritarian regimes.[73]”
“Vargas Llosa frequently uses his writing to challenge the inadequacies of society, such as demoralization and oppression by those in political power towards those who challenge this power”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario_Vargas_Llosa
Far from being a “nobody”, he was a popular figure. He ran for President of Peru with his reforms.
He is famous for his 1990 public denunciation of Mexico' as “The perfect dictatorship”.
The real “nobody” lived in Alta. for 40 years.
And then there is Álvaro Vargas Llosa, son of Mario Vargas Llosa, and co-author of a book considered required reading for a fundamental understanding of the continuing failure of the sudaca nations:
Mar 12th, 2016 - 06:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Guide to the Perfect Latin American Idiot”
TWIMC
Mar 12th, 2016 - 08:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Returning for a moment to Jujuy and Milagro Sala...
Here an Italian Architectural Magazine article about her organization, Tupac Amaru that could be a clue for finding all them missing monies...
http://www.domusweb.it/en/architecture/2011/11/24/welcome-to-the-country-club.html
Enjoy...
101. Then she should have the accounting
Mar 13th, 2016 - 02:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Am I missing something?
It's hard to tell when the posts are deliberately obtuse.
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