MercoPress. South Atlantic News Agency
Falklands' sovereignty issues has been solved, says MLA Phyllis Rendell
The member of the Falklands/Malvinas legislative assembly Phyllis Rendell on a private visit to Paraguay openly stated that the South Atlantic archipelago claimed by Argentina is a British Overseas Territory and underlined that the sovereignty issue was settled with a war between the two sides over thirty years ago. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesWishful Thinking, lass....
Mar 10th, 2016 - 09:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0Facts trump your wishful thinking mate.
Mar 10th, 2016 - 09:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0But continue your wishful thoughts Think, won't nobody gunna care either way.
The usurpation!
Mar 10th, 2016 - 10:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0The UN resolutions !!
https://www.academia.edu/21721198/Falklands_1833_Usurpation_and_UN_Resolutions
@1
Mar 10th, 2016 - 10:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0What's left when you've lost legally, morally, militarily, politically and diplomatically?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjEcj8KpuJw
(4) HansNiesund
Mar 10th, 2016 - 11:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0All your above is Wishfull Thinking... except..., of course..., the well deserved Engrish military victory over the Argentinean armed farces of 1982...
Who, in his right mind, could ever THINK... that a rat pack of amateurish Argie nun, schoolboy and pregnant women murderers could ever match a bunch of Brutish professional gook, sand niggers and kaffirs killers?
@5
Mar 10th, 2016 - 11:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0Come, come :
You've lost legally by default because as we all know you won't dare go near the ICJ or the ICA, despite 100+ years in which you could have done so.
We all know about 1982, the most fuck-witted military escapade of the 20th century, in execution as well as conception.
You lost morally when your only argument at the time of the referendum was that the islanders were sone kind of Untermenschen with no right to express their opposition to your colonial pretensions.
You lost diplomatically in 2008 when the UN threw out your sneaky ploy to subvert the right of self-determination (as also discussed in http://en.mercopress.com/2016/03/05/spain-will-bring-up-the-issue-of-gibraltar-the-very-next-day-uk-votes-to-leave-european-union#comment433257)
And you lost politically when you failed to gain anything more than lip service from your fellow colonial settler states of Latin America and all the other nutters, dictatorships, and crooks you've appealed to.
I left out logically, of course, but let's not forget that a colonial settler state whining after an unsubstantiated colonial inheritance of two centuries ago doesn't constitute decolonization in any logical sense.
Who here was lambasting those barbaric argies for the selfie with the (probably already dead) dolphin?
Mar 10th, 2016 - 12:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well EUIANS and NORTHAMOANS would never do that, too civilized and enlighthened....
http://www.onegreenplanet.org/news/woman-kills-swan-for-selfie/
http://www.onegreenplanet.org/news/woman-kills-swan-for-selfie/
All morons, as I said many years ago, I don't care about cell phones for this reason. It makes stupid people dangerous, and dangerous people act stupid.
So, based on Phyllis Rendell comments, Russia has pleny of rights over a part of Ukrania.
Mar 10th, 2016 - 12:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(6) HansNiesund...
Mar 10th, 2016 - 12:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Jupppppppppppppppppp....
As I said before.... All Brutish Wishful Thinking...
It good that the UK pols finally are saying what everyone knows.
Mar 10th, 2016 - 01:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Took them long enough.
Now if you can get some US Congressmen and Senators doing it too you'd be all set.
@7
Mar 10th, 2016 - 01:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And there is it is again. Somebody else is guilty of something, therefore all is well in Argentina.
@8 pgerman
Only if you don't get the difference between secession and decolonization. They're not the same thing. As the UN keeps voting, there is no alternative to self-determination in the case of the latter, it's pretty much a done deal. The former case is a bit more tricky, but self-determination may apply if there has been persecution or active discrimination against the minority concerned. It is highly debatable if this is true of either Eastern Ukraine or the Crimea, or any other territory where Putin might choose to whip out the Sudetenland playbook. And that's what the issue is, in my view, not self-determination per se, but how it's achieved.
@9
You're welcome to show me where it's wrong. But simple assertion of faith isn't enough, I'm afraid, and neither is generic anglophobia.
Dangerous words by MLA Rendell, much better to use the historical information that pre date the UN than than rely on anything that could be be interpreted as 'might is right' in the modern world.
Mar 10th, 2016 - 02:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Not surprised a politico from such a small population has made such an amateurish mistake, but they really need to be more careful with what sound bites they provide to Latam
(11) HansNiesund
Mar 10th, 2016 - 03:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That's exactly what I have been saying all along...
Simple assertion of faith isn't enough, laddie...
Neither is generic Anglo haughtiness...
@13
Mar 10th, 2016 - 03:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Show me how it's done, then. I'm all ears and eyes.
Not sure what all the fuss is about.
Mar 10th, 2016 - 04:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Rendell is only restating the obvious.
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The last 50 years of Argentine noise on this subject of the Falklands and what have they gotten out of it?
-- First prize for the coveted “Laughingstock of Letrine America” award, with Oak Leaf Cluster. The trophy is permanently kept in the Pink House.
-- Total destruction of their armed forces and nearly 700 dead
-- Bills totaling the equivalent of more than US$412 million for little signs plastered on public transport, mistakenly identifying the affiliation of the islands.
-- The continued need for extensive psychiatric care for the population, with annual costs of over US$918 million.
-- The endearing and enduring amusement and disdain from the civilised nations, which regard Argentine bluster on a par with that of North Korea
It seems some argy sympathisers still don't get the message or the truth,
Mar 10th, 2016 - 08:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0you lost the war, get over it,
the British Falkland's they were, British Falkland's they are,
and British Falkland's they will remain
so get over it.
Silly cow...
Mar 10th, 2016 - 08:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Since when...has the UN or any Country endorsed sovereignty by war...
What a stupid amateurish statement to make...
No wonder the UK handles foreign diplomacy...
Talk like that.... almost encourages a future war...
The UK has sovereignty before and after the war as recognised by the UN.
Mar 10th, 2016 - 09:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The war only destroyed Argentina's sovereignty CLAIM.
Argentina has attempted diplomatically, politically and militarily to assert sovereignty and FAILED each and every time.
For once Voice I agree with you, although I think calling her a 'Silly Cow' when it was Argentina who used force to impose a change of sovereignty is your misunderstanding what she was saying.
Mar 10th, 2016 - 10:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0UN 3314 states ..
Aggression is the use of armed force by a State against the sovereignty, territorial integrity or political independence of another State, or in any other manner inconsistent with the Charter of the United Nations, as set out in this Definition...
Hence UNSC502 and clear recognition that Argentina were not the holders of sovereignty in the eyes of the UN. As she said, the war settled the sovereignty issue.
'Since when...has the UN or any Country endorsed sovereignty by war...', hmmm history past and present is littered with countries who endorse sovereignty by war, Argentina in 1982 springs to mind.
The matter is settled Think. I've been saying it for years. So glad that the politicians are finally catching up.
Mar 10th, 2016 - 11:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina's finest now also recognise that there is no way forward at the UN, and as Argentina still fears the ICJ there is just no where to go.
The wishful thinking appears to be all in Argentina Think :-)
https://falklandstimeline.files.wordpress.com/2015/02/el-punto-final.pdf
Voice - countries have been endorsing sovereignty by force for centuries. Anybody remember Crimea?
This matter was resolved 30 years ago. Not after 1982, but in 1985 when Argentina asked the UN to bury Resolution 2065. Official.
19
Mar 11th, 2016 - 01:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0You can change your name Skip...but the content always remains the same...
How many times do I have to tell you..the only country that recognises UK sovereignty over the islands...is the UK...
UNSC502 is a clear recognition of nothing...
All 502 it did was to “demand an immediate cessation of hostilities between Argentina and the United Kingdom and a complete withdrawal by Argentine forces. The Council also called on the governments of Argentina and the United Kingdom to seek a diplomatic solution to the situation and refrain from further military action.”
The UN now and in 1982 did not endorse a war....
and...what war is she talking about...?
I see no declaration of war by anyone...
Also you are blinded by your own perspective....
To Argentina...they were liberating the islands from British domination...
To Britain....they were keeping what they stole....
One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter...
Change my name?
Mar 11th, 2016 - 02:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0What are you sniffing Voice?
“How many times do I have to tell you..the only country that recognises UK sovereignty over the islands...is the UK...”
That is patently false. The EU recognises UK sovereignty through the Treaty of Lisbon as it clearly states the Falkland Islands are a British Overseas Territory. Therefore all signatories recognise this fact.
However should we follow your logic to its conclusion, ifno state currently holds sovereignty over the Falkland Islands then the inhabitants hold their sovereignty as recognises by the UN Charter.
It doesn't matter which way you try to have it Voice, in no conclusion does Argentina have sovereignty.
The UN recognises that the Falkland Islands are a territory in need of decolonisation because it is inhabited. It therefore recognises that the inhabitants of this territory are the ones that need to be decolonised.
Your own logic traps you in outcomes that do not benefit Argentina.
Thank you for helping make my argument.
USA recognised Brit sovereignty in 1945 Voice
Mar 11th, 2016 - 05:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0@21
Mar 11th, 2016 - 07:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0I'm sure the idea that this wan't a war will come as a great surprise to the 1000 people who got killed as a result of this fuck-witted attempt to impose Argentine rule by military force.
“The sovereignty issue was settled and there is no room for discussions, it's British sovereignty. Sovereignty was settled in a war following the military invasion of the Islands by Argentina, the issue is over and gone“ insisted the elected lawmaker from the Falklands.”
Mar 11th, 2016 - 08:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0Judging by the troll's reaction, it seems that MLA Rendell's comments have struck a raw nerve and another blow to Argentina's colonial pretensions.
The truth hurts, doesn't it?
Voice - nobody declares war anymore. Try to keep up.
Mar 11th, 2016 - 09:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0And Britain has stolen nothing. Argentina has twice tried to steal the Falklands from Britain - 1832 & 1982. Britain's claim goes back to 1765, arguably 1594. Argentina's claim goes back to 1829 - which is arguably before they even existed as a nation State.
The UN recognised the aggressor in 1982 and 502 shouted that loud. Argentina got what it had coming. And that, was that.
The matter is settled.
“...another blow to Argentina's colonial pretensions....”
Mar 11th, 2016 - 11:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Banana Republic that lost its bananas.
In my humble opinion, MLA Phyllis Rendell made a poor choice of words.
Mar 11th, 2016 - 12:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0She should not have said that this issue was solved `by a war´, because that means that issues like this can be solved by an armed action. If tomorrow China invades the Falklands and wins ... should the FI be chinese and the “dispute” considered “solved”?
I expected better, more elaborated statements from her.
The FI is already settled because it is clear that Argentina has no rights over those islands, hence the invasion was repealed through an armed action. That war was to defend, not to “solve” an issue.
(26) MR. Lorton
Mar 11th, 2016 - 12:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You say...:
“Argentina's claim goes back to 1829 - which is arguably before they even existed as a nation State.”
I say...:
Geeeee....., lad...
Why don't you stop being so biased...?
That same bias has turn your else deeply researched blog into an unusable partisan pamphlet...
A real pity...!
Just for other readers info...:
”The Treaty of Friendship, Commerce and Navigation Between Argentina and the United Kingdom was an 1825 treaty between the United Provinces of the River Plate (predecessor of modern Argentina) and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland (predecessor of modern United Kingdom). With this treaty, the United Kingdom accepted the 1816 Argentine Declaration of Independence......“
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Friendship,_Commerce_and_Navigation_Between_Argentina_and_the_United_Kingdom
And...:
...... ”In the context of the dispute over the Falkland Islands (Spanish: Islas Malvinas), some authors argue that by signing the Treaty without making any reservation about Argentina's settlement on the islands by 1825, the United Kingdom weakened its claim.”...:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Friendship,_Commerce_and_Navigation_Between_Argentina_and_the_United_Kingdom
Servus
El Think
without making any reservation about Argentina's settlement on the islands by 1825, the United Kingdom weakened its claim.”...:
Mar 11th, 2016 - 01:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0but then surely the reverse is true,
Argentina did not ask or got reservation abt Argentine settlement,
it was probably not mentioned because it was not needed.
just a thought.
Here´s a clue: 1850
Mar 11th, 2016 - 01:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Issue settled - British sovereignty - No Argentinian provision/remark/complaint/reserve. No further word until 1900 aprox. No actual claim until the late 40s.
Case closed.-
Argie turnip at (31)
Mar 11th, 2016 - 01:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Well redacted, docunented and linked post................. as usual from you :-(
Just tell me one thing...:
If you are right about ...: ”1850“, ”British sovereignty“, ”Case closed” etc, etc, etc...
Why in earth did the British government open negotiations with Argentina in 1967 indicating willingness to transfer sovereignty?
@ 32
Mar 11th, 2016 - 02:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Calling me names makes you look bad, not me.
“....to transfer sovereignty”
I stand by your words: you just said they were willing to transfer the sovereignty they already had. Hence, you just admitted they had sovereignty over the FI. If at some point they were willing to get rid of them ... does not change that fact.
And again, if we are so sure about our claim, then why did Argentina refused to go to ICJ .. three times?
Argie turnip at (33)
Mar 11th, 2016 - 03:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Don't try semantic trickery... It's pathetic....
Besides Argentina never refused to go to the I. C. J. about the Islas Malvinas...
Educate yourself, Gunga Din...
It's alright Skip he thinks I am your other persona.
Mar 11th, 2016 - 03:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0However, I live in Portugal, in a little village called Paderne in the Algarve. He seems to think I am in Australia obviously. Tell you what voice, have a look on google maps, find a landmark near Paderne (preferably within a couple ok km, your choice, and I will take a picture for you with a piece pf paper that says something of your choosing on it. Then tell me an email to send it to.
Go on
So you have a friend that lives in Portugal...Skip...
Mar 11th, 2016 - 03:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So what...
ps...
It's not just me that thinks this....
my plagiarism software thinks so too...;-))))
@32
Mar 11th, 2016 - 04:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Why in earth did the British government open negotiations with Argentina in 1967 indicating willingness to transfer sovereignty?”
Because the UK saw the Islands as a financial burden and wanted to get rid of them. However, as the Islands have proved given more autonomy, they are self supporting (as Lord Shackleton predicted). So the UK government was wrong then to ignore the Islanders, as it was to cancel Blue Streak, as it was to cancel TSR2 and as it was wrong to kick out the Chagos Islanders.
If you have actually read the details of the negotiations you will have observed despite its wish then to offload the Islands,that the UK had no doubt about its sovereignty and that whatever was arranged, the Islanders could not be omitted from any agreement.
The UK's problem was that the UN Charter gave the Islanders rights which could not be tossed aside and under decolonisation the UN requires the 'colonised' to have independence, not to be transferred to another coloniser.
This will be repeated until it finally sinks in, such as a constant reminder to Malvinazis, who who are academically incapable of understanding that an Englishman can also be British.
29 Voice, V0ice, Vestige, Think et al, sock-puppeteer extraordinaire
Mar 11th, 2016 - 04:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Treaty of Friendship, Commerce and Navigation is not a peace treaty. Therefore, it is not an appropriate mechanism for the advancement of a territorial claim according to there dozen or so contemporary and modern jurists I have on record.
@34 “Besides Argentina never refused to go to the I. C. J. about the Islas Malvinas...”
Mar 11th, 2016 - 04:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Maybe not the Malvinas, whatever that is, but on at least four occasions Argentina refused to accept the invitation and the authority of the ICJ in dealing with the Falklands sovereignty issue. The United Kingdom offered to take the dispute over the Falkland Island Dependencies to mediation at the International Court of Justice in 1947, 1951, 1953 and 1954. Argentina refused and said it did not accept the ICJ jurisdiction. Read “Las Islas Malvinas y el derecho internacional” and tell us about it.
www.icj-cij.org/docket/files/26/9065.pdf
In jibber-jabber:
”.....la cancillería británica en 1947 le envía a nuestro gobierno una nota mediante la cual le invitaba a recurrir a la Corte Internacional de Justicia a fin de discutir la soberanía de las Dependencias de las Islas Malvinas (Georgias, Sándwich del Sur y territorio antártico), lo que reiteró en 1951, 1953 y 1954. Dicha invitación no fue aceptada por la República Argentina ....“
”No fue aceptada“ is jibber-jabber for ”rejected.”
37
Mar 11th, 2016 - 04:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“The UK's problem was that the UN Charter gave the Islanders rights which could not be tossed aside and under decolonisation the UN requires the 'colonised' to have independence, not to be transferred to another coloniser.”
I'm sure one of the choices was integration with another country....
Also as far as I'm aware Argentina doesn't wish to have a colony...to colonise...it sees the islands as an integral part of the country...
Which is a much better proposition than keeping it as a British Colony...sorry I meant British Overseas Territory....
...nah I didn't...
@ 34
Mar 11th, 2016 - 04:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You don´t get tired to humiliate yourself, don´t you?
.
Anglo Ex Pat Turnip at (39)
Mar 11th, 2016 - 05:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So many words, in to languages, to confirm my concise and correctphrase at (34)...:
“Argentina never refused to go to the I. C. J. about the Islas Malvinas...”*
* (I asume, of course, that you know that the “Islas Malvinas” and the ”Dependencias de las Islas Malvinas (Georgias, Sándwich del Sur y Territorio Antártico), ” are two different things...)
@42
Mar 11th, 2016 - 06:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina is the *plaintiff*. When the plaintiff declines to take his case to the only body that could adjudicuate upon it, you know his case doesn't stand up.
40. Integral?
Mar 11th, 2016 - 06:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How so?
Better to be part of Argentina than the UK?
Oh my!
That is the stupidest post so far.
Good gracious!
44
Mar 11th, 2016 - 07:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Although not quite as stupid...
as you implying that the Falklands are a part of the UK...
Governed by the UK...
Ultimately ruled by the UK...
but not an integral part of the UK...
You can argue till one is blue in the face,
Mar 11th, 2016 - 07:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0but the fact is,
take it to the ICJ,
or you are admitting you have NO claim, but only a bogus time delaying self interest argument.
45. Never heard the UK saying they're integral
Mar 11th, 2016 - 07:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Have you?
So please explain how The Falklands are integral now or ever have been?
Or are you too dumb?
As indicated earlier, and as acknowledged by the Argentine government, Argentina has on multiple occasions refused to allow the matter to be considered by the ICJ. That alone should be conclusive evidence of the vacuous nature of its claim.
Mar 11th, 2016 - 08:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Once again for the Anglo Turnip at (48)
Mar 11th, 2016 - 08:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The United Kingdom has NEVER offered to take the dispute over the Falkland Island to mediation at the International Court of Justice...
Not in 1947, 1951, 1953 or 1954.
What the United Kingdom offered was to take the dispute over the Falkland Island DEPENDENCIES to mediation at the International Court of Justice in 1947, 1951, 1953 and 1954.
Two quite different things...
Like Spanish and Engrish...
Capisce?
@49 And Argentina refused to accept the ICJ jurisdiction.
Mar 11th, 2016 - 09:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Voice you've lost it. Who am I supposed to be now?
Mar 11th, 2016 - 09:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Plagiarism software? WTF. Seriously?
Fine post a report showing this “plagiarism” or for once just STFU you idiot.
I know you like to play the contrarian but now you're just sounding like a lunatic.
You have never ONCE tripped me up in a lie. Not once.
Ever.
Neither has ya mate Think.... no matter how many sock puppets he has used.
Hold your horses Skippy...
Mar 11th, 2016 - 10:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I haven't tripped you in any lie because I Think you don't lie much...
I have though tripped you on your ignorance, naivety and haughtiness quite a few times in the past...
But....... Wait a second...!
Now that I THINK about it, I seem to remember that one of my so called sock puppets did catch you telling porkies...
And that you even apologised to him...
Remember Mr. HeisenbergContext?
Chuckle chuckle...
#29
Mar 11th, 2016 - 11:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Think - so wrong. The 1825 Treaty was one purely of commerce. It did not recognise any right in the United Provinces and gave at best only de facto recognition. Which Canning assured Spain of in his letter to Zea.
“M. Zea concludes, with declaring that … the British Gov*., as violating existing Treaties; and the imprescriptible rights of the Throne of Spain. Against what will Spain protest? It has been proved that no Treaties are violated by us; and we admit that no question of right is decided by our recognition of the New States of America.”
And then there was the 1824 Nunez letter to Parish in which he described the UP and its various claims. No mention of the Falklands. It was that information that the 1825 Treaty was based upon. Did BA lie?
As for existence? Declarations of independence are the start of a process, not the end. Argentina did not attain true independence by any measure before the Cortez of 1836.
You should have learnt not to challenge me on history by now Think.
Or weren't you thinking?
Chuckle, chuckle :-)
45. Integral? Come on, let's hear it.
Mar 12th, 2016 - 12:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0Maybe this idiot Think can help you out.
He's about as dumb as you are.
(53) Mr. Lorton
Mar 12th, 2016 - 01:12 am - Link - Report abuse 01) As anyone clearly can read at my comment (29), I do NOT challenge your historical knowledge.... On the contrary...
What I do challenge is that Anglo bias you apply on most of it...
2) You say...:
“ Declarations of independence are the start of a process, not the end. Argentina did not attain true independence by any measure before the Cortez of 1836.”
I say...:
The other day..., flaneuring on the 6 arrt..., I noticed a little plaque on the wall at Rue Jacob 56....
Applying your above “logic”..., that little Lutetian marble plaque means that the USA did not attain true independence by any measure before 1783....
Strange logic you have!
51
Mar 12th, 2016 - 01:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0I thought it was quite clear Skip...who you're supposed to be from my post...so why plead ignorance...?
Or are you claiming you have not read post 35...
You the “budding architect”...
and Buzzsaw the claimed architect are one and the same...
As for plagiarism software....I take it you have never heard of stylometry ..the analysis of writing styles, it examines word choice, the frequency, sequence and length of words and other telling tendencies....using algorithms...
It's about 80% accurate....at identifying anonymous users...
I have an alpha release, but it's good....
(56) Mr. Voice
Mar 12th, 2016 - 01:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0Woooooooooooooow...
That software sounds more effective that counting ellipsis...
Chuckle, chuckle...
(57) Mr. Think
Mar 12th, 2016 - 01:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0Although it can be fooled by emulating someone's style...
Chuckle, chuckle...
;-)))))))
:-)))
Mar 12th, 2016 - 01:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0Integral? Still can't answer?
Mar 12th, 2016 - 01:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0Thought so.
Did you use that software on yourself?
How many posters did you come up with?
4?
5?
more?
Think
Mar 12th, 2016 - 04:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0When did YOU trip me up? Provide links.
However having been caught red handed with sockpuppets it is hardly surprising that you create mistrust..... but then that is your modus operandi. To sow mistrust & name call without saying much at all.
To then accuse people of participating in this atmosphere of mistrust is quite hypocritical.
Your dozens of posts on one thread say less than the dozens of threads that you refuse to comment on.
Your accusation regarding Heisenbergcontext are all from 2014 or earlier. While you may not have changed in the past couple of years. I have. I'm pragmatic, flexible & I change.
You don't.
I refused to play your game of mistrust any longer. I now take each poster on what they write no matter how many different logins it takes them to make a point. But as you don't say much these days it is hardly pertinent with you.
Voice
I'm studying URBAN PLANNING & DESIGN. I chose my major in 2014. Do keep up as you're falling behind mate. In 2013 I was contemplating architecture. Both are majors in my degree. Never claimed otherwise.
As for plagiarism software. Yes I use it all the time at uni. Turnitin. If you have access to one then put up or shut up.
You made the accusation.
You claim to have objective proof.
So, now substantiate it!
I'll wait.....
While I wait I'll think about your other failed accusations:
• that I am the same person as Troy Tempest
• that I'm not at uni
• that I didn't travel to Canada in 2014
• that my job doesn't allow me to undertake the travel I've done.
There's probably more but I don't bother keeping records or track. You're not that important.
My accusations to you:
• you are a sock puppet..... pre 2015 though because I no longer GAF if you are or aren't. I don't care where you live or what you do unless you use that to make a point.
I stand by my claim. Neither of you have tripped me up. Though Think graciously acknowledges that he doesn't believe I lie. Which I don't. It's so gauche.
#55
Mar 12th, 2016 - 05:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0Think. My logic is fine - perhaps you should read Crawford's “Creation of States”? 1836 would be the earliest that Argentina could claim to have attained independence. Other criteria explored by Crawford would see 1853 (first Constitution) and 1863 (recognition by the old colonial power) as alternative dates.
Keep trying to think - Think
@29
Mar 12th, 2016 - 08:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0The 1825 Treaty is truly a remarkable document if it concedes a claim that was not made until 1829, without actually saying so, and without the UP's man in Lomdon at the time knowing anything about it.
(61) Skippy
Mar 12th, 2016 - 11:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0When have I “been caught red handed with sockpuppets”? Provide links...
... Poor Ozzie Mr. HeisenbergContext is just one of the many times you tripped..., accusing him... of being me!
...Remember, a couple of years ago when oil was about 100U$ and you went into complete denial when I warned a Kelper about the historical average price of oil being 37 U$...?
Oil price today...: ~ 38 U$...
The list of your trippings is long..... but I have other things to do, laddie...
Keep safe...
(62) MR. Lorton
Nope, your logic is not fine...,
It is biased because you want history to fit your ideas...
I repeat what I said at (55)...:
Following your biased “logic”, the earliest that the USA could claim to have attained independence would be May 12, 1784 when the old colonial power recognized them....
Though..., as everybody knows, USA was born as a State declaring their Independence on July 4, 1776...
I don't see Mr. Crawford or anybody else challenging that fact..., do you...?
Integral?
Mar 12th, 2016 - 02:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Come on Argys!!
No one can help out the half-wit Voice?
You can believe whatever your tiny mind tells you Voice, but I have not lied to you on this site about where I live and who I am. In fact I have told you al lot about myself, whereas you won't even tell me what you do for a living other than you own an expensive monitor and an A0 plotter and that you are clearly an under achiever.
Mar 12th, 2016 - 03:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I have set up an email account in the name of
voicey2016@hotmail.com
password: VoiceyVoice01
Have a look in the onedrive, a few random drawings of my time at SOM and as a UK associate Architect working with Herzog & de Meuron architects, in London the mid 2000's, Ludgate, Broadgate etc and others of Tate Modern external interface and Corp of London Guildhall refit. Some are marked 'In Progress' or 'Construction' which means you cannot find these on line or via planning portals, they are only issued to the design team. So don’t bother with ‘you got this from google’ or ‘you have a friend who lives in Portugal and is an architect’ or some of your other excuses.
Oh and I added a few amendments to some of the drawings in autocad, just for you.
I know it is a lot of effort to go to to prove you wrong, but the Ireland Match is a bit one sided and I enjoy making you look like a fool.
Integral?
Mar 12th, 2016 - 03:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Come on Argys!!
Can no one help out the half-wit Voice?
I so want to see an answer to that idiotic post.
It is a pity that there are so many brainwashed Argys still around.
Roll up... roll up...
Mar 12th, 2016 - 07:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Which fool is going to click on that Voicey email, enter the password and leave a direct link to their IP address....
Anyone...?
Like we've never heard of the likes of Flicker for posting pics and photos...
... Jeez ....
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Meanwhile back on blog,
Mar 12th, 2016 - 08:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Falklands' sovereignty issues has been solved,
And its still British,
OK Voice, here you go
Mar 12th, 2016 - 08:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0https://www.flickr.com/photos/140970814@N08/shares/Zz4509
And the reason I don't use flickr etc is because it's not that useful in our profession, we use dropbox and BIM software. Flickr only seems to allow .jpeg. The construction industry standard is .pdf not .jpeg. But I made an exception for you and exported the drawing to .jpegs
IP address....really you think I am interested in finding out where you live...honestly, you are not that important.
What's your next excuse? When are you going to show me the googled pictures of your 'professional' screen and plotter, or do you just clean in an architects office and secretly snapped a few pictures.
Actually Think - Crawford is challenging that “fact”. What you fail to understand is that revolted colonies 'backdate' their year of attainment to that of declaration. Crawford challenges that notion too.
Mar 12th, 2016 - 11:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0With 1836 I have actually opted for the earliest of Crawford's options, which is the acceptance by the old power of its loss. That would be the Cortez of 1836 following Ferdinand's death in 1833.
It can, and has, been argued that Argentina still failed the basic test of statehood at that time - ie. effective control over its territory. Too many internecine wars before 1853 for Argentina to claim to be a single state.
Did you know that in 1824, Woodbine Parish actually recommended to Canning that Britain recognise each of the Provinces as separate countries as they were neither United, nor, in his opinion, ever likely to be.
If you fancy your chances, Crawford sits as an ICJ judge these days :-)
I don't need to be biased Think - history speaks for itself.
(71) Mr. Lorton
Mar 12th, 2016 - 11:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Judge Crawford challenges July 4, 1776 as being the official birthdate of the USA, you say...?
He must then be convinced that the birthdate of the Rìoghachd Aonaichte Bhreatainn is Èireann a Tuath is..., as anybody knows..., December 5, 1922... because the UK failed the basic test of Statehood at that time - ie. effective control over its territory. Too many troubles before 1922 for the UK to claim to be a single state...
Such crazy kind of historical logic..., would mean that the Argentinean State predates the UK with almost 100 years...!
...... Silly bugger that Ozzie..., and those that follow him...
It's 930 Bs As time. And the Falklands are still British.
Mar 13th, 2016 - 12:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0Integral?
Mar 13th, 2016 - 12:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0Come on Argys!!
No one can help out the half-wit Voice?
Voice you're so disspointing.
(71) Mr. Lorton...
Mar 13th, 2016 - 12:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0Forgot to tell you...
It is spelled “CORTES OF 1836”...
“CORTEZ” is a piece by a genial Kanuk...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4gfjoAyqfLs
Integral?
Mar 13th, 2016 - 01:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0Come on Argys!!
No one can help out the half-wit Voice?
Voice you're so disappointing.
Think, help out your puppet.
If you can.
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Mar 13th, 2016 - 10:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0Looks like the kind of examples that any Uni would have access to...
let's say the URBAN PLANNING & DESIGN department...
Yeah it's definitely you Skip...;-))))))
Yeah right Voice...excuses,excuses, Skip is in Australia right, so why would they have UK construction drawings in Aus Uni's. Different building codes, planning laws etc etc. Ha, Ha Voice stop digging, you are looking more and more foolish.
Mar 13th, 2016 - 12:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Face it Voice, you have been backed into a corner, I have called your bluff and now you are clutching at straws.
Some of those drawings are marked 'in progress' and if you knew anything about the construction industry you would know that we would not issue 'in progress' drawings to the public. Only Planning drawings and sometimes public consultation drawings are available to the public and will be marked 'For Planning'. The drawings I have shown you are (and bare in mind I have them in .dwg format) probably only available to a few hundred people world wide.
Which one of us, based on evidence appears to be telling the truth?
One other thing Voice, have a guess where I got 'Buzzsaw' from, google 'AutoCad Buzzsaw', just another little nail in your coffin eh.
Voice is a dunce, he spouts off nonsense then refuses to answer when someone points out how stupid the statement was.
Mar 13th, 2016 - 02:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@74 I think what Voice said is that, the current legal status of the islands in Argentina is that they are a part of a province, whereas for the rest of the world they are a British Overseas Territory, which is a special status.
Mar 13th, 2016 - 05:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Not that it matters much, considering should the UK ever hands the islands to us, whatever status they have in Argentina is up for negotiation.
@80 “.....should the UK ever hands the islands to us,....”
Mar 13th, 2016 - 06:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Not gonna happen. Not after the way Argentina has treated the islanders.
Thank you MagnusMaster....
Mar 13th, 2016 - 07:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I thought.. if I ignore him for long enough he would surely go away....
I will not mention his name or he will surely appear...
To everyone else on here it was pretty clear from my post @40 that Argentina does not and will not see the islands as a colony, but an integral part of the Country...
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I'm sure if I could be bothered, I could find some plans....especially if I was a student studying elements of architecture...
i'm sure major international companies make them available for students to learn....in progress or otherwise...
Skip....
Amazingly you never converse with yourself....
You would think a student of architecture, upon finding an Architect on the same very small site would be keen to chew the fat....
Yet...it never happens...;-)))))
integral part of the Country, how so?
Mar 13th, 2016 - 08:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Again, please explain,
Idiotic statements must be challenged.
Tierra Del Fuego could have made Hawaii a part of their Province just as easily and it would be just as integral as the Falklands. Would it not?
Are all Argentines really this dumb?
Oh Voicey...desperation coming through loud and clear....
Mar 13th, 2016 - 09:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0'I'm sure if I could be bothered, I could find some plans...' , oh, now I have heard it all, if you can't find the drawings then unfortunately your statement means nothing. And no you wouldn't find the plans I showed you, on line, in universities or in LA Planning departments you may find some other plans of some other project, but not these and in .dwg format.
You are slowly showing your lack on knowledge of the design, planning and construction process, yet you claim to be a professional who has worked with an Architect.
No disrespect to Skip, who is studying Urban Planning and Design by the way, which is a different discipline to Architecture (you should know that Voice, shouldn't you?) , but I come on this site because of an interest in South America, I spend my entire working life with Architects, Landscape Architects, Engineers, Planners, Urban Designers etc. I would rather talk to Skip about his views on the Falklands. You are the only fool who speaks to himself on here, when you pretend to be Think.
Nice try, but your hilarious attempt as saving face just makes you look rather, well, sad. Keep digging Voice, the hole just gets bigger.
Think - all your squirming does not help you. Argentina was not recognisable as a unified State until the 1850's. Now Argentina backdates its existence to the declaration in 1816 - as all the revolted colonies did. It does not mean that they can claim something from that inter-State period however.
Mar 13th, 2016 - 10:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Falklands facts are simple :
In 1811, Spain only claimed one island.
Argentina did not inherit that claim
Britain added that one island to its others in 1833
Spain did not complain
Argentina had no right or reason to complain.
The dispute did not start in 1833 Think - it finished in 1833
All the rest is just fluff :-)
http://images.adsttc.com/media/images/522a/5617/e8e4/4e9e/a000/0019/large_jpg/Tate_Modern_Plan_ground.jpg?1378506254
Mar 13th, 2016 - 10:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Courtesy of your Architects I do believe...
The more you type, the more that everyone on here can see it's you....
You just can't hide that ego......;-))))
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You are like the village idiot that everyone crosses the road to avoid....
Please someone tell him...I'm almost afraid his lunacy might be infectious...if I reply....
86. I'll keep asking until you come up with a decent reply.
Mar 13th, 2016 - 10:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Or are you just too stupid?
integral part of the Country, how so?
Again, please explain,
Idiotic statements must be challenged.
Tierra Del Fuego could have made Hawaii a part of their Province just as easily and it would be just as integral as the Falklands. Would it not?
Are all Argentines really this dumb?
(85) Mr. Lorton
Mar 13th, 2016 - 10:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sorry, lad... but... it is you who is squirming...
You write at (71)...:
“It can, and has, been argued that Argentina still failed the basic test of statehood at that time - ie. effective control over its territory. Too many internecine wars before 1853 for Argentina to claim to be a single state. ”
I say...:
Using the same criteria it could be argued that the United Kingdom failed the basic test of statehood on December 6, 1921 - ie. effective control over its territory... One bloody internecine independence war between 1919 and 192 that cost gentina to claim to be a single state.
Jeeez...... Voice, that has really proven that I am lying. An image taken from Archdaily.com. It's just like the plans I posted.......full Architectural plans with drawing titles etc etc. Yeah you have me on the ropes now.
Mar 13th, 2016 - 11:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Really Voice, that's it, that is the best you can find. There are many more illustrative images of Tate Modern plans, sections and elevations to choose from on line, but unfortunately not the plans I have though.
The problem you have Voice, is that I am telling the truth.
Once again......
Mar 13th, 2016 - 11:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(85) Mr. Lorton
Sorry, lad... but... it is you who is squirming...
You write at (71)...:
“It can, and has, been argued that Argentina still failed the basic test of statehood at that time - ie. effective control over its territory. Too many internecine wars before 1853 for Argentina to claim to be a single state. ”
I say...:
Using the same criteria it could be argued (falsely as yours above) that the United Kingdom failed the basic test of statehood on December 6, 1921 - ie. effective control over its territory... One bloody internecine Irish Independence War between 1919 and 1921 (in which the UK lost almost one third (1/3) of its territory!) impedes the United Kingdom to claim to be a single state.
Can't you see the turnipidity of your argument?
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Mar 13th, 2016 - 11:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Don't make me laugh Skip....
You are talking to a digital master here...
I can lift a pdf file from any local councils planning portal edit it with Adobe Acrobat and call it my own...
I can even lift a jpeg....use a trace program...convert it to a vector file, save it as a dxf, load it into AutoCad...which I have and save it as dwg and call it my own...
I can take your files and alter them and say... hey look at my work...
The problem you have Skip...is you are a student....
...and my JStylo says it's you, therefore I must assume there is an 80% chance that you are lying and the Architect connection is just your other account and definitely to much of a coincidence...
...but I like it...good effort..;-))))))
91. Do you realize how dumb you sound?
Mar 14th, 2016 - 12:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0Are you ever going to answer how the Falklands could or ever were Integral to Argentina?
So when did the British recognise the Argentine Republic...?
Mar 14th, 2016 - 12:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0Courtesy of Roger Lorton...
1824
June 25th, Woodbine Parish sends a report on the present condition of the United Provinces to the Foreign Office in London; “The United Provinces of la Plata, or, as they are sometimes called, the ARGENTINE REPUBLIC, comprise, (with the exception of Paraguay and the Banda Oriental, which have become separate ..) the whole of that vast space lying between Brazil and the Cordillera of Chile and Peru, and extending from the 22nd to the 41st degree of south latitude. The most southern settlement of the Buenos Ayreans as yet is the little town of Del Carmen, upon the river Negro.”
July 23rd, Canning urges his King to recognise Buenos Aires arguing that it had been virtually independent for many years during which no Spanish soldier had set foot there, and that a great number of British subjects had settled there. He concludes that Parish should be given powers to negotiate a Treaty which, when ratified, would amount to diplomatic recognition.
December 30th, Canning intimates to the USA that the British Government has decided to recognise the existence of three new American States – Mexico, Colombia and Buenos Ayres.
Canning’s requirements are that a new State; “.. shall have shown itself substantially capable of maintaining an independent existence, of carrying on a government of its own, of controlling its own military and naval forces and of being responsible to other nations for the observance of international laws and the discharge of international duties. These are questions of fact.”
July 23rd, Griffiths returns to Buenos Aires with news that Woodbine Parish is appointed British chargé d’affaires in Buenos Aires, pending the arrival of a Minister.
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Read post 40 again or post 80....the Lucifer is in the details...
ps....it's “realise”...
Voice...And there we have the old move the goal posts. I have already said you can find other drawings from other projects on the planning portal, but, and here is the where all your efforts fall down, you won't find those drawings.
Mar 14th, 2016 - 07:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0You can argue all you like about converting other drawings to Vector files (by the way, anyone could have looked that up on the internet, stop trying to make out you are some kind of expert) . But what you will not be able to get hold of, is those drawings.
Well if you are a betting man Voice and you are 80% sure I am Skip, put your money where your mouth is, €1000.00 or £1000.00 whatever you want, I will bet you that I am not Skip. Everyone here can read it, I am a man of my word. now put up or shut up.
If you reply with 'I'm not a betting man' then I think it proves who is telling the truth. I am happy for Mr Lorton to be officiate as I know him from another site. No are you up for it Voice, how certain are you.......Or just slink away into the shadows....
De facto recognition Voice - not de jure, as I'm sure you must agree if you've read my pages :-)
Mar 14th, 2016 - 08:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0Think - I can only see the turnipidity in you. Ireland? Al;ways troublesome. But it makes no difference. Argentina did not exist in 1816, or 1820 - or 1824, or 1833.
You are merely a figment of your own imagination Think - no change there then :-)
Ahhhhhhhh..... Mr. Lorton...
Mar 14th, 2016 - 09:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0You are exactly the type of Engrishman dear Edward so perfectly describes in the following video...:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uEx5G-GOS1k
Enjoy
Youtube Think? I never use it. Full of children's toy's.
Mar 14th, 2016 - 10:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0Statehood has to be gained Think. 1920's? Too late, already established for the UK.
Argentina however, struggled to become a nation. Did you ever actually achieve it? So hard to tell.
I'll leave you to your tubes Think - perhaps you'll be the one to enjoy?
Hasta luego Think :-)
Don't people get tired of the mutual masturbation puppets?
Mar 14th, 2016 - 10:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0There's a sickness on this board.
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Mar 14th, 2016 - 12:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oooo.....a bet...
Ok let me just give you my name and address or perhaps my bank account details so that I can receive the reward...
Oh dear...
ps...
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1543/25155880773_a64ac1f9f3_c.jpg
Look closely...there's my £1000 for the bet...small change lying about....
What else do you see...?
Is that a comparison to a normal size ink cartridge and my ink cartridge...
Is that my software for the Epson 9800...?
Is that my Profiler software for my Specialist...SpectraView Monitor...?
...Who da man...?
;-))))))
So you are taking the bet then.....
Mar 14th, 2016 - 12:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Children - play all you like, but please do not involve me in your childish games. If you all try using your real names, then wouldn't life be so much easier?
Mar 14th, 2016 - 01:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I know who I am.
I do not much care who you are
Mr. Lorton
Mar 14th, 2016 - 02:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What is it with most Anglos in here that apparently are too “fine” to use modern technology as Youtube or Wikipedia..
One wonders what they use....?
The 2010 paper version of the Encyclopedia Britannica perhaps?
I seem to recall that you keenly used the United Press International as your source of information, Mr. Lorton...
A Media Conglomerate owned by the Unification Church of Reverend Moon!
That would explain a few things...
Argentina did struggle to become a nation..., alright...
So did the USA...
Does that mean that USA was not a Nation prior to 1865?
1200 noon Bs As time, and the Falkland Islands are still British.
Mar 14th, 2016 - 03:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hey Roger, you are right, it would be easier, so here I am Voice, my name, not Buzzsaw, but the real me, look up one of the smaller side discipline web sites. It hasn't got any employees details or sister company details on there so I am happy to share it with you.
Mar 14th, 2016 - 03:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0www.goma-la.com
Have a look at the contacts, where we have offices. Look me up on Linked in or Facebook, I am there. Or are you going to say I created all this in the last few hours? Note I am not in Australia. I am not Skip.
As I said before I have many faults, but being wrong isn't one of them.
I am going to donate the £1000.00 to a Falklands Charity. How would you like to pay?
Geeeeeee, Mr. Marshall...
Mar 14th, 2016 - 04:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You surely have, as you say, some faults....
Being easily trolled must certainly be one of them...
Please be careful with Nigerian mails... Do not give them your Acccount Nr. ;-)
Anyhow...
No sweat, really...
Being on the Anglo side on this site will spare you from most abuse, name callings and death threats...
Yours truly...
The One & Only...
El Tink, Chubut, Patagonia Argentina.
Oh the humour Think....All it proves think is that I am who I say I am, I do what I say I do. And for all that trolling, I just handed Voice his Arse on a plate, a little like '82 Think.
Mar 14th, 2016 - 04:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am big enough to look after myself Think, I don't need a facade to hide behind.
And as Mr Lorton kindly reminded us....
'I know who I am. I do not much care who you are'
But the real question is, will Voice donate his £1000.00 Scottish pounds to a Falklands Charity for me.......or is this just another lie.
105 Mr. Think
Mar 14th, 2016 - 05:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That's terrible Mr. Think did you just suggest that I trolled Mr. Marshall...?
Perseverance pays dividends apparently...;-)
(106) Mr. Marshall
Mar 14th, 2016 - 05:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Let me first clearly state..., that I believe that you are who you say you are...
Having said that..., you really haven't “prove” anything lad...
You yourself participate actively in the “Paranoia Games” in here at MercoPress... accusing me, without any shadow of proof, of using sock puppets...
As far as we know, “Mr. Marshall” could as well be a“ facade to hide behind”...
Could it not?
Oh...not sure of your Argentinian logic there, but if you believe I am who I say I am, then yes, I did 'prove' something as I said.
Mar 14th, 2016 - 06:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are right think I said you were a sock puppet of Voice at one stage, but I came to the conclusion a while ago that you and Voice are not one and the same. You are of scandinavian origin, living in Argentina, perhaps first generation and Voice ...
Well, what can one say......a would be troll who get's schooled, your not very good at it that's for sure.
'As far as we know, “Mr. Marshall” could as well be a“ facade to hide behind”... ' it could be, but what a great back story, website, linked-in, facebook. A lot of trouble to go through for a facade. And it was all set up 10 years ago in preparation.......
But back to the Falklands, thanks to you Voice one of their charities should be £1000 better off, but we all knew that offer was as false as every thing else you say.
(107) Jupppppp, Mr. Voice
Mar 14th, 2016 - 06:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I did just suggest that you trolled Mr. Marshall...
He raised from the depht and took that white wulff as ayoung Patagonian fontinalis...;-)
Except I would quite happily told Voice who I was, if he had asked, after all, why do you need to hide if you are telling the truth.
Mar 14th, 2016 - 07:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I just had more fun backing him into a corner and then watching him squirm.
I thought the whole idea of trolling, was not to be the one ending up being humiliated. But I guess you are used to re-writing history to make yourselves feel better
Proof my arse....
Mar 14th, 2016 - 07:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Although I call myself Voice... I'm James Marshall an Architect living in Portugal...
www.goma-la.com
Have a look at the contacts, where we have offices. Look me up on Linked in or Facebook, I am there. Or are you going to say I created all this in the last two minutes...
There you see.... undeniable proof....
And I am Skip... from Oztralia!
Mar 14th, 2016 - 07:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Chuckle chuckle...
If you are then there are two of us.......Ha, Ha straws and clutching spring to mind.
Mar 14th, 2016 - 08:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No chinks in my armour.....I am still having fun watching you squirm.
Think, so you have changed your mind now or are you really just Voice's poodle?
Keep going boys/girls (who knows)...I am getting bored of this now, it's run it's course. You tried your hardest Voice, but were undone by your ego and the fact that I was telling the truth. As I said voice you are an under achiever, don't feel bad, it probably isn't all your fault.
Adeus
Nah I'm kidding...
Mar 14th, 2016 - 09:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'm really Ewan Cameron..Architect...
I specialise in Passive Solar Gain optimisation...
http://www.ewancameronarchitects.com/Practice.html
There is my website...
Check me out on Linkedin....and twitter...
What more proof do you need...?
Either way....at least I proved I have better kit than you do....
...and they are just my toys...
...from under achieving...I think Skip......;-)))))))
And.... I am Vasquez, Jules Verne's heroic Argentinean lighthouse keeper at the End of the World..., fighting against Kongre's Brutish pirates...
Mar 14th, 2016 - 09:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0115,116 Voice, V0ice, Vestige, Think et al, sock-puppeteer extraordinaire
Mar 14th, 2016 - 10:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The sock-puppeteer is getting so beside himself that he's giving himself a talking too.
Think - Moon? LOL You still shooting at that?
Mar 14th, 2016 - 10:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A Nation's rights and duties are achieved on attainment, not declaration Think. That is a simple fact. What is less easy to determine is when Argentina attained its independence. It certainly was not 1816.
So when do you think it was attained?
Enjoy your tubes Think, I understand it is a necessary fascination in the older man :-)
(118) Roger - Moon! YES You still reading that?
Mar 14th, 2016 - 10:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0When do I THINK Argentina attained independence, you ask...?
In 1816, for certain, i say...!
Enjoy your tubes Think, I understand it is a necessary fascination in the older man :-)
1816 ? Ridiculous Think. No lawyer would back you on that. So you are still shooting at the moon after all LOL (I can hardly remember the article in question, you'd have to remind me of where it is)
Mar 15th, 2016 - 02:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina's claim to statehood in 1816 is as false as its claim to the Falklands.
Never forget old man, that in 1811 Spain claimed only one island - and Argentina didn't even manage to inherit that.
The matter is resolved. Since 1833.
It must be exhausting logging in and out like that.
Mar 15th, 2016 - 10:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0Still no one can explain how the Falklands are Integral to Argnetina?
I guess Voice was drunk when it posted that idiotic statement.
Indeed Mrs. Rendell is 100% right- there is not a shadow of a doubt that the Falklands sovereignty question was solved on the Islands' battlefields in 1982.
Mar 15th, 2016 - 06:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina should concentrate instead in solving a much simpler problem: squaring the circle.
Philippe
The UK will return the Malvinas with 25 years.
Mar 16th, 2016 - 12:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0Integral?
Mar 16th, 2016 - 09:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0anyone?
Anyone?
@123 I don't think the UK has so much as a single malvina to give anyone. Whatever that is.
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