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Obama should fully reveal documents from Argentina's 1976/1983 dictatorship and the US role, says NYT

Friday, March 18th 2016 - 05:40 UTC
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The New York Times published on Thursday an editorial in which the newspaper referred to president Barack Obama’s visit to Argentina next week and the role played by the United States in the country’s 1976-1983 civil-military dictatorship, saying the president of that country “should make a pledge that Washington will more fully reveal its role in a dark chapter of Argentine history.” Read full article

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  • ChrisR

    I love the damage Miriam Webster did with his 'American' language he developed when he did his dictionary, poor little minded England hater that he was.

    How can you have 'MORE fully', it's like 'a little bit pregnant'!

    Anyway, what good will it do to rake over these alleged wrongdoings, it was another lifetime, just move forward!

    Mar 18th, 2016 - 11:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marti Llazo

    Maybe Cuba and the holders of the former USSR's records should also reveal their roles and participation on the Montonero+Peronist side during those years.

    Mar 18th, 2016 - 12:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CapiTrollism_is_back!!

    The role of the US or Soviet Union in Argentina is completely overrated. In Central America, Chile, Colombia, maybe even Brazil, yes, but down here, it was really very minor. The major driver was peronist vs anti-peronist factions, which borrowed from whatever ideologies were vogue at the time and then promptly sought the benefice of any outsider that supported their ideologies.

    Mar 18th, 2016 - 01:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Lucifer

    Who says it was shameful? NYT? Give me a break.

    Mar 18th, 2016 - 01:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Chile and Central America where we had our largest roles and operated or Panama bases at the time. Most of the support came from the 7th SFG from CINCSOUTH at the time. It will be healthy to shed some light on our role at the time and acknowledge and honor lot of KIA's in the 70s and early 80s that are known to almost no one.

    Mar 18th, 2016 - 01:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    ,perhaps Obama should fully reveal documents
    of where CFK is being held....

    Mar 18th, 2016 - 02:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    I ma not a big Obama fan, but I've been smiling at the nasty shot he's been dishing on her over here lately.

    Mar 18th, 2016 - 02:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    Some Jimmy Carter legacy - very interesting. I'm for full disclosure. Drag it out in the sun and let it bleach a little. The truth is always liberating. And we do need to review the Ruskie files for latam operations back to Khrushchev.

    So while Obamy is in rg we should press Macaroni on all war and post war activities in support of the nasty party and nasty party members.

    How about the Nisman investigation - hows that going perhaps we can press rg on that as well.

    Mar 18th, 2016 - 03:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marti Llazo

    Let's declassify the material on how the Peronists helped Adolph Eichmann and the rest of the manga of Nazis who were so nicely and famously accommodated by Argentina.

    Mar 18th, 2016 - 04:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    There would be nothing on old documents like that. Hell, the Russians had their nazis, We had our nazis and even the Brits had their nazis. The predecessor of the CIA was giving papers to the USA to nazi's that we of no value at all to the USA. Nazi news it old news.

    Let's kind something of more value like Cunt Lips corruption and theft of her country. Though, wwith the fire that happened at the treasury and crashed servers in her last week in office, could be difficult. However, Macri reached out to the USA before he took the reins and the USA (FBI and DEA) has been helping him from day one. Narcotics is not the only thing he is lifting the carpets on.

    Mar 18th, 2016 - 06:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    , Definatly something in the wind.

    just seems odd that CFK has disappeared of the planet,

    perhaps the CIA has her in that protection program...
    just a quiet thought.

    Mar 18th, 2016 - 07:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    lol........but she faded away and her own party turned on her like a pack of dogs. The only one around is Kicilloff, making feeble attempts to justify his his failed policies that further pushed Argentina lower and ostracized for the real world under their leadership.

    Mar 18th, 2016 - 08:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CapiTrollism_is_back!!

    @10

    No, according to the ANGLOS and the CHILIS, only Argentina ever had Nazis, they never did. We are the only ones.

    The ANGLOS, specially the NORTHAMOANS, stick to this story all the way to the moon.... (hahahahaha).

    As for the CHILIS, their country is still pretty much stuck in circa 1938 Germany mentality wise. Heck, it wasn't until a few years ago where you could still go to parts of Chile and be greeted by goose-stepping blonds singing praises to the Master Race... I bet you can still find those places and Martin Llazo as the resident goose-stepping 1.65 meter Nazi can lead us right to these paradises of the 3 1/2 Reich.

    Mar 18th, 2016 - 11:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hepatia

    Another tranche has just been declassified:
    http://nsarchive.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB545-Obama-brings-declassified-diplomacy-to-Argentina-on-40th-anniversary-of-coup/

    Let us hope that this is a precursor to the complete declassification of the whole sorry mess.

    Mar 19th, 2016 - 01:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marti Llazo

    @13 No one suggested that Argentistan was the only Letrine American country that actively supported the Nazis both during and after WWII, so KepiTroll is full of bosta once again. Since we are on the topic, it can hardly be disputed that Argentistan governments provided overwhelmingly greater support than any other country in the region, and Peronism extended that support to Axis war criminals long after the war was over.

    The matter of some of the citizens dressing up like Nazis and making public shows is one thing... and little more than superficial posturing. The real matter is the degree to which governments of that era actively supported the nasty work of the Axis, and in that respect there is no doubt that Argentina was the most pro-Nazi of any of the sudaca republics.

    Chile did have some penetration of its military, and police by German agents, but its government permitted very little significant espionage. I think it was in 1942 that the Chilean government prohibited coded radio transmissions by the Germans, and since Argentina placed no such restrictions, the Nazi agents in the region sent their encrypted comm through the German embassy in Buenos Aires (TS/UMBRA details declassified in about 2009). The US promoted Chile's neutrality in part because that gave its ships a degree of immunity against Axis attacks, and Chilean shipping was important to the US war effort.

    Brazil had some grassroots Nazi connections but its government largely cooperated with the Allies and arrested German agents when they were identified, and allowed Allied cooperation in shutting down German covert radio transmissions from that country.

    It was Argentina's governments that were most hostile to the Allies during WWII, and its government and military assisted the Germans to a far greater extent than any other country in South America. In fact, in 1946 the US State Department published a book on the extensive Argentine government support to Nazi Germany.

    Mar 19th, 2016 - 03:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Well tobi....being I am a North American and specifically an American, how is it I don't have your bullshit story?

    Ever find that mall or intersection in Mendoza?

    Get your self pity act out of here.

    Mar 19th, 2016 - 03:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    16. Lol. Sure.

    Mar 19th, 2016 - 04:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Enrique Massot

    No doubt Obama is scoring a good point by letting much of the dirt come to the surface. Perhaps this will allow the Argentine justice system to put a few others behind bars for their crimes against humanity.
    Why the commenters above waste effort talking much about nothing?
    Either say you support the disclosure--as Hepatia says at #14--or express support for what the Argentine military did in the 1970s and say it should not be declassified. Don't turn around the pot.

    Mar 19th, 2016 - 05:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    Universal sunlight for all!

    Yankee capitalist coups

    Ruskie communist plots

    rg nasty collaborations

    Latam neighbor on neighbor proxy wars

    Indigenous slaughters and displacements

    Drug trafficking

    Political corruptions

    Election stealing

    Land redistribution schemes

    Asset confiscations

    Corporate adventurism

    You want disclosure?

    Let's have FULL disclosure.

    You see Reeeeeeeeekie - latam wants disclosure much less than your American masters do

    Mar 19th, 2016 - 05:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marti Llazo

    Let's remember that there was already a Dirty War going on before the military government took over. The coup that installed the military government was a direct result of the Marxist kidnappings, murders, bombings, and other terrorism that had been growing since the 1960s, and the inability or unwillingness of the civilian governments to effectively control it. After the coup a Peronist faction turned terrorist as well, and portions of the catholic church were involved in supporting the terrorism. It's unlikely that any sort of purported “full disclosure” will identify the full range of real culprits since it's only politically correct to slam the military government's efforts to wipe out the Marxists.

    Mar 19th, 2016 - 06:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Lucifer

    20. Too many escaped and infected their host countries. Now their nasty old men harping on the good ol' days when they were torturing and blowing up buildings in the name of human rights and “saving” civilization.

    The only good communist is a dead communist.

    Mar 19th, 2016 - 06:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Obama should fully reveal documents
    1, of his birth
    2, Who killed Kennedy
    3, what was Americas involvement in the Bermuda triangle
    4 area 51, yes or no.
    5, where is CFK
    6, why no Malcom y or z
    7, did they step foot on the moon, or the Arizona desert.
    wink wink
    and many more

    Mar 19th, 2016 - 08:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Enrique Massot

    Right on the money the NYT:
    “Declassifying...would also bring into sharper focus a shameful period of American foreign policy, during which Washington condoned and in some instances supported the brutal tactics of right-wing governments in the region.“
    Again, why so much discomfort by Obama's disclosure?
    We see chronic taking pains to now bring to the readers' attention a list of things that require disclosure too.
    Briton insists with Obama's birth certificate.
    Martillazo comes back with the trotted ”two demons“ theory that equates citizen violence with state terrorism.
    And Lucifer floats Videla's ”genial” idea: to solve social issues by erasing from the planet surface those who question the current social/economic system. Lucifer sounds like a good Yankee Boy apprentice.

    Mar 19th, 2016 - 10:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Just WTF do you think the USA involvement was in Argentinas dirty war? It was next to nothing and mostly an eye wink. Carter stopped all the SA and most was in the 60s early 70s. We were working out of Panama advising Central America, our biggest concern of the time. You're an idiot Quique. If your so concerned about Argentina maybe you should live there and do something to make it better for you.....no?

    Mar 20th, 2016 - 04:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    Interesting dialogue patterns, poppycock. They betray you. Lol. Are you tired? You were born South but it wasn't in the conus was it? Now how did you earn your passport? Shining shoes in the zone? Major fail on your persona. Another 8 week wonder at sand hill? How's your tan? Wait. You don't even know the closing time at Grays. Spin me some stories. You're already busted. Lol.

    Mar 20th, 2016 - 11:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    You're like a wet fart. Give it up or let's meet. You're in the USA......you know where I live in the USA. Email a reasonable location. Or just keep farting.

    Mar 20th, 2016 - 12:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    No clue what rock that you are hiding under poppycock.

    Accordingly, why would I exert the time or effort to meet you?

    You are neither interesting or compelling.

    Obviously I just struck a nerve but I can't for the life of me figure out any possible benefit as to my interests in complying with anything that you could possibly offer me.

    Lol.

    Insecurity just grabbed you by the neck didn't it ?

    Rant on, I'll express myself whenever I feel appropriate.

    p.s. I doubt you'd enjoy a face to face much.

    Mar 20th, 2016 - 01:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    A nerve......lol. Sure, pat yourself on the back...you need the ego boost.

    Everyone here Knows I am from Massachusetts and I provide my email address often and freely and nor do I hide behind the internet.

    And yes....I would enjoy a face to face. However it is you who could not muster the encounter. Your clitoris prevents you from even emailing me, let along meeting me. But then, you'd have to be here in the first place to meet.

    Mar 20th, 2016 - 01:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    Sure.

    Rant on.

    Mar 20th, 2016 - 02:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    It just dawned on me what you are trying to get at.....Sand hill, eight week wonder.....nice WWII terminology. And it's a 90 day wonder and I never claimed I went to CS at Benning, though I certainly humped around Benning a lot and ate that red clay of Georgia. Foolish child, my screen name has NOTHING to do with my military days. I've mentioned my rant and MOS in the 1st week I started posting here, but that's irrelevant much like you. And the Horse Shoe at Benning means more just like Tank Hill at Jackson. But, everyone turns blue at Benning.

    Dimwit, ask yankee boy.....oh, I mean luci to respond to my posts in this thread:

    http://en.mercopress.com/2016/03/14/argentina-s-february-inflation-4.8-minister-anticipates-1-during-second-quarter#comments

    If I were you, I would be afraid to email me just like you are. No matter, the real posters , even to South Americans respond because they at least live and believe in their convictions.

    Now fart something insignificant. Your turn chronic, if that's what you want me to call you.

    Mar 20th, 2016 - 02:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    After furiously burning up google . . . . .

    Prattle on, poppycock

    Mar 20th, 2016 - 02:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Man you love my cock. I'll pass little man. Your foolish words of googling will never take away my service to my country. I, unlike you, can prove every base I've been on.

    Keep diverting and changing the subject. Ask yankee boy the next time you look in the mirror what his Argentine address was?

    m.cher1160@outlook.com

    Grow a pair.

    Mar 20th, 2016 - 02:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    You posture.

    Your ideas fail.

    You posture.

    Your logic fails.

    You posture.

    You are a true internet warrior.

    Mar 20th, 2016 - 02:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Here's a bone for your ego.....you win.

    But, before I go. I googled tank Hill and the Horseshoe, then google it yourself and tell us what they are?

    Maybe you can run some trout before you can explain those two areas.

    Funny when you are specifically asked a definitive you just ignore. I take it back, you're not even a wet fart. You need more work to move up to that.

    Mar 20th, 2016 - 03:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    Poppycock:

    Why do you think that so many people question your bonafides?

    Why do you suppose your authenticity is questioned so often?

    Is this frustrating for you?

    Do you think that there might be a pattern of perceived inconsistencies in the theories you espouse?

    Mar 20th, 2016 - 03:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Who.....your screen names? Get a life.........only you can make a yeard out of an inch.

    List ALL the screen names that questioned me and who I am? And show the posts.....if you can.

    Mar 20th, 2016 - 03:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    I googled them.

    Lol.

    You are an online legend and no just here.

    Your meet me line hasn't served you very well - here or elsewhere.

    Soldier on loser.

    Mar 20th, 2016 - 03:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Well.....I sent Voice a picture with the Boston Globe last year, gave my email and a cell number one time. The poster who are who they say they are contacted me......some were Argentine. You are the biggest liar on a dying website now that Macri is in office.

    You google those locations......explain them to us. Please........just exactly what is the Horseshoe at Ft Benning?

    Mar 20th, 2016 - 03:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    I'm guessing that you never set foot in the Chickasaw. And if for some reason you dared set foot in it that you hid in the corner when the fun started.

    Keep posing.

    Mar 20th, 2016 - 03:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    I didn't think you can answer that question as the fraud that you are.

    8 week wonder.......lol.

    Your shit's very flaky

    Mar 20th, 2016 - 03:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    Lol.

    Keep posing.

    You are providing much appreciated humor.

    Mar 20th, 2016 - 04:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    You're a waste of human flesh. Keep showing everyone on MP how you can't support your own statements about me. I'll respond to you, yb, T.Paine and luci, your BFF GF when you email me. So no worries you lying sack of shit.

    You're American as sushi. I've seen Shiite woman with more balls than you.

    Mar 20th, 2016 - 04:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marti Llazo

    @23 “ Martillazo comes back with the trotted ”two demons“ theory that equates citizen violence with state terrorism.”

    No reekie - wrong again, but such misinterpretation is a favourite ploy of the Argentine Left and evidently suits your failed view of such matters and the continuing trendy concealment of the terrorism conducted by the Argentine Leftists in the 1960s and 1970s, and particularly the role of the Peronist terrorists during that time.

    What was being promoted was historical context, and that if “declassification” is to be performed, that an even-handed discussion of all players be included. That would include the role of the church in Argentina in supporting terrorism, the Peronist Montoneros, the ERP and their offshoots, and the roles of the governments involved. It's a pretty safe bet that Pope Pancho and Obama won't be particularly honest in their selective and politically correct revelations.

    Mar 20th, 2016 - 06:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    Lol.

    Mar 20th, 2016 - 06:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    ,Well that ruined a good blog,

    Still,
    What if the new argentine president opened their secret documents to the world?
    We bet Argentina has loads of secrets,
    Mind you, every country has secrets and so do people,

    The secret is, should they remain secret, or private,
    Or is that a secret,
    Chuckles.

    soon be Easter..

    Mar 20th, 2016 - 07:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    Sorry poppycock.

    Do you feel that the coarseness of your speech somehow compensates for your lack of credibility?

    Does vulgarity distill your muddled thoughts for the masses?

    Am I intimidated by your bluster?

    Lol.

    Mar 20th, 2016 - 11:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Too bad your delicate fucking panty hose got bunched up by my fucking vulgar speech......yb......fuck yourself because I am certain as many others here, you're relegated to buying a good fuck now and then. How the fuck does that sound yb?

    Have you grown any balls and emailed me yet......or getting a self inflicted woody jumping between names. You should not have run to luci's aid......dead giveaway.

    Have you figured out the horseshoe yet or have you given up.

    Allow me to jump over to luci for a moment. One fake then the other you pathetic little dickhead. Oh....and grunt is such a WWII term.....something all your names seem to use a lot.

    Lolololololololol

    I would give a lot to meet you face to face.......but I can't bend that low.....and your not in the USA.......not to mention your cowardly nature.

    Mar 20th, 2016 - 11:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Lucifer

    Poor confused grunt.

    Mar 21st, 2016 - 12:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    Poppycock, you are so confused.

    Oh my

    I almost feel sorry for you.

    Mar 21st, 2016 - 01:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    You love that cock yb

    Mar 21st, 2016 - 02:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    Poppycock, don't hold back.

    How do you really feel?

    Go out on a limb.

    Express yourself.

    Huh?

    Got some multisyllabic phrases for me?

    Maybe an entire sentence?

    A coherent thought?

    Huh, ole feller?

    Mar 21st, 2016 - 02:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    I'm flattered it takes both your names to keep up with me.

    You must have stole Yankee boy's, luci's and Paine's scripts. At least I got Yankee boy's name off MP.

    Ask your girlfriend luci if she us going to post the posts I supposedly made. Or is she going to from from her own claims like you?

    Keep farting yb........we'll never see that name again.......and just maybe........when idiots lead, morons usually follow, so be on your way next.

    Mar 21st, 2016 - 02:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    Again, do you have a coherent - let alone a substantive thought?

    Whiskey addled?

    High blood pressure?

    Early onset Alzheimers?

    How you explain your cluelessness?

    Monsters in the shadows?

    Paranoia?

    Delusional?

    You truly don't get it do you, poor old thang.

    God bless you, maybe tomorrow will be easier for you

    Lol.

    Mar 21st, 2016 - 02:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Thang......! You're beyond sad yankee. You win, spend you week, month and life trolling for MP.

    Mar 21st, 2016 - 09:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    Come on lil' poppy.

    You haven't quite defiled your online alter ego into utter digital oblivion.

    Don't give up yet!

    Surely your head can spin around a few more time?

    Low on venom?

    Mar 21st, 2016 - 01:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Playing in your cesspool is not my idea of fun.

    You gave absolutely nothing of value to add here.

    You're an outright liar to all the posters here, aside for your other screen names

    You have the balls of an amoebic flea

    Like an animal, when you are cornered, you standard retort is to insult

    You post here to validate your menial existence....MP, this you your complete life's achievements. You and you underlings, aka your other personas are the only one's that have that perception, but I care little to nothing of your insignificant and meaningless thoughts. You've been nowhere, accomplished nothing and are little more than the living proof of the human stain. You could not stand toe to toe and face to face with Quique let alone me. So in that sense I understand your fear of me and pretty much every real poster here. Even Axel garners more forethought and undoubted respect for his misguided convictons

    Stay in your cesspool with you and yours.

    BTW......tell us about Carter's legacy in South America.....humor us.

    Your turn yankee boy.....it won't be long before “chronic” joins “yankee boy” in the trollers graveyard of screen names.

    Mar 21st, 2016 - 01:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    Here is Carter's general legacy:

    Every day he wakes and thanks God for Barack Hussein Obama for thus he is relieved of the distinction of being the worst American president.

    Mar 21st, 2016 - 01:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Exactly what I thought that you knew of his South American legacy. Like I and others have stated, you have absolutely nothing to say other than trolling some childish drivel.

    Mar 21st, 2016 - 02:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    Carter campaigned against Ford on the sworn oath that he wouldn't surrender the canal. He of course did sign the Torrijos treaty and the legislation ratifying it.

    Poor poopy.

    Mar 21st, 2016 - 04:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Lucifer

    Paranoid and angry make for a dangerous combination.

    You're definitely haunted by Yankeeboy.
    Must have whipped you good a time or two.

    Chronic isn't Yankeeboy.

    Get a clue ol' timer Chronic is running you around in circles.

    Mar 21st, 2016 - 04:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    Poops, do you want to discuss Jimmy's betrayal of Somoza?

    Mar 21st, 2016 - 04:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Voice

    Haha, Hillary next… GOP looks like it lost the presidency. Deadlock again… . and YB, you are even more boring in that sock.

    NYT is a great newspaper and educational for viewers of Fox Noos living the dream in Naples. Those vultures just love Yankee pensioners :-) thats why they hang around those retirement ghettos.

    Mar 21st, 2016 - 05:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    Peppy: Under Ford the Christians In Action supported the dirty. Boy scout Jimmy pulled the aid even as rg tried to leverage the nuc threat.

    Mar 21st, 2016 - 05:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    No, Not Somoza, not Ford, your post in “#8 Some Jimmy Carter legacy - very interesting.” with the article being about South America and Argentina in particular.

    So what is the Jimmy Carter Argentine legacy? Focus yb

    Mar 21st, 2016 - 06:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Lucifer

    Grunt, you're thick.

    Mar 21st, 2016 - 06:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    He missed 63 or he's to dumb to comprehend the condensed version. Lol.

    Mar 21st, 2016 - 06:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Still can't find that I said it can you......I'd call you a stupid bitch but that would be sexist.
    Nor can your sock puppet chronic followup on his own wrong post about Carter in Argentina.
    Tell me luci, do you jerk chronic with your left or right hand?
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    16 Lucifer (#)
    Mar 17th, 2016 - 01:58 am
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    15. Are you the only person who lives where they claim to live?
    How convenient....
    for you.
    17 Enrique Massot (#)
    Mar 17th, 2016 - 05:58 am
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    The damage that Macri's policies are inflicting on the country are already visible, but will become more apparent as time goes by.
    The effects of devaluation, the elimination of the “retntions” on exported agro products and the opening of imports will sink the country into a horrendous recession.
    Rivers of tears will run, mostly from those who believed in Macri and his friends.
    18 Skip (#)
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    Yes yes Enrique the place is falling apart. Lucky you escaped.

    I 100% guarantee Argentina will be a better place at the next presidential election than it was at the last. Lower inflation, higher growth, lower crime and more reliable statistics.
    19 Captain Poppy (#)
    Mar 17th, 2016 - 10:35 am
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    Did I say that? Show me where I said that lucy? I'm stuck on special posters like you yb.

    what happened with your Florida offer?
    20 Lucifer (#)
    Mar 17th, 2016 - 11:08 am
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    Yes you said that.
    Are you too stupid to remember your own posts?
    21 Captain Poppy (#)
    Mar 17th, 2016 - 01:33 pm
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    ahhhhhhh.....Luci....I am old and forgetful......let's see it?

    Let's pretend I am from Missouri....the “Show me” state....show me where I posted I am the only one who lives where they claim to live?

    Are you too stupid to find it? Show me?
    ******************************************************************

    luci my guess is you're too stupid to know that you can't find what does not exist.

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  • Lucifer

    Grunt, Are you the only person who lives where they claim to live?
    How convenient....for you.

    If you don't understand that post you're dumber than I thought
    and that's pushing the boundaries of someone who's got to think to breathe.

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  • Captain Poppy

    19 Captain Poppy (#)
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    Did I say that? Show me where I said that lucy? I'm stuck on special posters like you yb.

    what happened with your Florida offer?
    20 Lucifer (#)
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    Yes you said that.*******************************
    Are you too stupid to remember your own posts?*******************

    Simple.....find that post.

    It would take a non American to think calling someone who served his entire career in battle teams to think being called a grunt is an insult. Are you really that stupid? I started as 11 bravo you moron!

    Find where I posted saying that luci.

    Mar 21st, 2016 - 07:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Lucifer

    Grunt, Maybe the other voice in your head is confusing you.

    This copy and paste isn't working in your favor.
    Haven't you figured that out yet?

    Mar 21st, 2016 - 07:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    It's so simple that you can't even find where I posted what you claim I said......because I never said that you lying moron.

    Mar 21st, 2016 - 07:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    Hope lil' peppie doesn't aneurysm out on us today.

    Mar 21st, 2016 - 07:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Just help this grunt find that post that your girlfriend luci claims I made.

    Better yet......you both just keep blowing smoke of your the same ass, change the subject, sling some more insults......because you are stupid and lied yankee boi.

    “Yes you said that.*******************************
    Are you too stupid to remember your own posts?*******************”

    Seems like luci's gang of one lost because YOU CAN'T FIND IT.

    Mar 21st, 2016 - 08:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Lucifer

    Grunt, do you smell burning toast?

    Don't stroke out on us

    Mar 21st, 2016 - 08:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    By defualt of inaction on your part.

    I am correct, which we all know.

    Add you once again are wrong and lying, which everyone knows.

    You are almost as wrong all the time as the name yankee boy was.

    Mar 21st, 2016 - 08:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    Peeper, you ok?

    Mar 21st, 2016 - 08:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Lucifer

    Does winning by default come with a ribbon, plaque or trophy or just smug self-satisfaction?
    Are you sure you won?
    How's that again?

    Mar 21st, 2016 - 09:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    Puppy is “winning” just like in Cretina's won decade.

    Who's on first, pippy?

    Mar 21st, 2016 - 09:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Voice

    Republicans are numbnuts. They think theres something wrong… .but- Trump is born out of the belief that there may be a mood sweeping the US that is demanding some kind of more radical change following this protracted downturn
    S&P in 2009 was 683, it is now 2040
    unemployment was 10% now 4.9%
    deficit as %age of GDP was 9.8% now 2.8%-yes that protracted downturn has been awful- if you believe the imbecile rantings of the Republicans.

    Hillary will improve on Obamas Presidency.

    Mar 21st, 2016 - 09:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    79. Genius. Divide the national debt by the population and post with your next retort.

    Mar 21st, 2016 - 09:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Voice

    Yep, YB, W overspent on Rednecks Revenge didn't he? Didnt work though did it? You need to manage other peoples money more carefully…

    Mar 21st, 2016 - 10:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    Uhhh, Obamy has already spent FIVE trillion buckaroos. Lol.

    Mar 22nd, 2016 - 01:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Skip

    A trillion dollars interest every 4 years!

    Yes, the US really needs to live within its means.

    Thought it doesn't seem to be the main talking point so far.

    Mar 22nd, 2016 - 01:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    Oops! Blew that fiddy %.

    Obammy has blown through 7.4 trillion dollars since taking office and debt will @ double under his tenure, while presiding over the worst post recessionary non recovery in national history.

    Every day Jimmy Carter thanks God for Obammy and thus being denied the distinction of being the worst president in US history.

    Mar 22nd, 2016 - 01:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Lucifer

    Former President Bill Clinton ridiculed Barack Obama on Monday calling for people to get to a “point where we can put the awful legacy of the last eight years behind us.”

    Every now and then a truth escapes a Clinton's mouth
    Not often
    just every now and then

    Mar 22nd, 2016 - 02:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Skip

    Didn't realise the US economy was doing so badly!

    Seems a shame considering.

    Oh well let's hope that Trump brings some success.... though not along the lines of Trump Airlines..... or Trump Casinos..... or Trump Magazine.... Steak.... Vodka.... University......

    Is it possible for Trump to add an entire country to his list of failures? Have to wait and see I guess.

    Mar 22nd, 2016 - 02:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    It's only 56k a piece.

    Mar 22nd, 2016 - 02:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Skip read this article....there's a weather forecast in it the accordingly, the USA is the only safe place.

    http://en.mercopress.com/2016/03/18/fed-cautious-on-global-economy-uncertainties-leaves-rates-unchanged-markets-react-positively#comments

    7.4 trillion......how much was accountable to that war on yellow cake alone? Who the fuck goes to war and lowers taxes? 3 trillion alone on the ....oops war.

    Mar 22nd, 2016 - 10:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Lucifer

    Oh my someone who's never made more than 75K/year and a perpetual student are teaming up on me.
    So scared I can't handle myself.

    The Grunt and The Coffeemaker...sounds very Retro Batman.
    What are your special skills?

    Mar 22nd, 2016 - 11:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    hey hey hey.......a proud grunt. At least I am an American.

    Mar 22nd, 2016 - 11:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Lucifer

    90. Says you.

    Mar 22nd, 2016 - 12:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • SebaSvtz

    As an Argentinian in his middle 30s, I would like all this `dirty war´issue to be put behind for once.

    We simple can NOT live in a perpetual mourning for those actions. Much less can we keep handing over money to so-called “vanished and detainees” who in most of the cases were either members of terror groups or they simply decided to move out (always to the US or western Europe, of course).

    All this perpetual brush up is nothing but a well elaborated excuse to make money.

    I say enough. Nobody says it was nice, but there is a HUGE difference between “having memory” and “being obsessed” with the past.

    Time to move forward, or to drown in the mud of past.

    Mar 22nd, 2016 - 12:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Absolutely yankee.....and always willing to prove I am who I say I am within reason. Unlike you who always does what she can to divert away from your claim to be an American. Everyone here aside from your persona's know that as well. Why not give these socks a rest for a while......you might find some satisfaction in it.

    #92........did they show the 60 minute Macri interview in Argentina? Nothing earth shattering but exposure for the American public,

    Mar 22nd, 2016 - 12:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Lucifer

    So you've never made more than 75K.
    Since you didn't refute it
    It must be true
    Aren't those the new rules.

    Do I get a plaque?

    Mar 22nd, 2016 - 12:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • SebaSvtz

    @ 93 as far as I know, some media here reported that the interview existed, but it was not broadcasted here by main media.

    I recall we had “60 minutes” on cable tv years ago but I don´t have it anymore :p

    Mar 22nd, 2016 - 12:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    75k? A dump truck driver for the City of Chicago makes more than that. lol

    Mar 22nd, 2016 - 12:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • SebaSvtz

    @ 96

    75k? in us$? Sh*t I make peanuts then !

    Post graduated here. I was born in the wrong country ... :´(

    Mar 22nd, 2016 - 01:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    The City of Chicago drive is also a union worker. Seba....get a job with the MBTA.......you'll make more, be on the ocean and an hour from the White Mountains......2 from the Green. The best part you're less likely to get shot in Boston than Chicago.

    Mar 22nd, 2016 - 01:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Lucifer

    Kinda my point.

    Mar 22nd, 2016 - 01:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Always a pleasure to help the needy.

    Mar 22nd, 2016 - 01:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    Since I kind of casually threw out the Obammy being the worst American president - note: He's already trying to rehabilitate his horrible legacy even before the ink is dry on it with this farewell tour of latam - what Jimmy Carter accomplished in his own right was no small feat to distinguish him as number TWO.

    Jimmy Carter's achievement can't be overstated considering the competition he bested to reach this ranking - FDR. Roosevelt with a single stroke of a pen at Yalta condemned 100's of millions to suffer at the hands of communism for 44 years.

    Accordingly, kudos to Jimmy Carter even though you can never be more than the 2nd worst president in American history. Salute!

    Mar 22nd, 2016 - 01:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Skip

    All American presidents!

    Can't blame anyone but yourselves for giving them power.

    Can't wait to see what Trump does to the place.

    Mar 24th, 2016 - 08:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    He'll never make the vote Skip, you know that too. Klansman voting for their GOP socks is one thing, general election is another. Watching the GOP implode is fun though. Now Trump's and Cruz's wife's are target. The naked model pictures and the corrupt Wall Streeter insider.......pass the pop corn!!

    Mar 24th, 2016 - 10:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    Clear enough now. Lil' Peppi is another Commie light. Lol. Thanks for the sharp focus. Those bad people on Wall Street. Oh!

    Wait.

    Clinton is the ultimate Wall Street insider and LOVES big banking and the investment houses and the fund managers. After all her husband signed nafta in support of them.

    What is that throbbing sound?

    That's Lil Peppi's skull expanding and deflating as he tries to wrap his brain around the paradox of the Hillbilly to Wall Street transformation. Republican wives? What about Clinton lovers? His N hers!

    Skippy etal:

    Don't ever confuse (or conflate) a liberal indoctrination with an education of any type.

    Now Lil' Peppi what distant land are you actually from?

    Mar 24th, 2016 - 12:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    lol oh goit me.....Im a commie.......in Chronics myopic eyes.

    Massachusetts and born in NYC....the old Williamsburg Hospital that no longer exists. In fact my entire family STILL lives in NYC and a 1/2 are on the NYPD. AND, my nephew is a helo pilot for the NYPD. That whould narrow it down for you to ID me yb.....there are only a handful of them and I am related to one of them. ANDF.......he's been in the paper multiple times as a pilot.

    Now do what you do best a google.

    Your loving commie!!!!

    Chrinic kisses for you from the Commie.....ahem....Mister Commie to you.

    Damn you're so knowledgeable and intuitive......it's scary you are!!!!!!!!!!

    Mar 24th, 2016 - 03:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Lucifer

    Except no one cares who you are
    that's your obsession.
    Nobody cares where you live or what you did or do
    Only your posts show everyone exactly who are are and that's enough

    Mar 24th, 2016 - 08:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    So you and you Muppet socks say.

    No one cares about your vain, angry little posts when posters disagree with you.

    This is your life jumping from name to name belittling everything......losing Kirchner ended you.

    My life.....my MP life is searching for your oxygen supply.

    Today, tomorrow or next year.

    Now bark boy......or have chronic bark luci.

    Mar 24th, 2016 - 10:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    Piper, why do you obsess about the great Yankee Boy?

    Did he discard your friendship?

    Reject your romantic overtures?

    Were you spurned?

    Mar 25th, 2016 - 01:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Lucifer

    Grunt is obsessed with an online persona that bested him over and over.

    It's really quite sad.

    Grunt must be such a loser in real life, even worse than on here.

    Mar 25th, 2016 - 02:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    besting me online......oooowwww woooowww......lol.

    Feed your ego

    Why do you want to know why I obsess over that pissant I evicted from MP?

    Now which sock puppet will respond on cue like toto?

    Mar 25th, 2016 - 04:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Lucifer

    Evicted?
    Are you sure?
    Maybe YB is on vacation.
    It is Spring Break is it not?

    What a sad little creature you are.

    Mar 26th, 2016 - 11:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0

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