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Macri's ministers pledge not a single day rest in the fight for Malvinas sovereignty
”There's not going to be a single day in the four years of (President Mauricio Macri) government in which we will not continue to fight for our rights in the South Atlantic”, said Argentine Interior minister Rogelio Frigerio during the April 2 commemoration of Malvinas war veteran and Fallen Day in Ushuaia, Tierra del Fuego. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesThe invasion was also the “death kiss” for Argentine hopes.
Apr 04th, 2016 - 05:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0The matter is now settled.
“being here helps understand how people belong and identify with their territory, including the Malvinas Islands”.....Ermmm, what, you mean that 'area' that Argentina stole off the Indigenous people in 1860's by killing them in a war.....when the people of Saunders Island & West (since 1765) and East Falkland (for Voice) had been under British Administration since 1833. Maths and History do not seen the strong points of the Argentine education system.
Apr 04th, 2016 - 06:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0Reading all this slop, l couldn't help but realise, just what a melodramatic shower of Drama Queens these Argentines really are.
Apr 04th, 2016 - 09:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0Won't need the British Army, next time the losers invade.
The Dagenham Girls Pipe Band will be enough to see them off.
El Diego, as you are so close to the hierarchy in Argentina, perhaps you could have a word in your friend Macris' ear and ask him to go to the International Court Of Justice with all the proof and let them decide on sovereignty After all Argentina seem to always go to the UN when they want something. You would be doing something useful for your country.
Apr 04th, 2016 - 09:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina 2016 - just as sad and pathetic as Argentina 2015 and all the years before .
Apr 04th, 2016 - 09:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0Friggie is clearly as deluded and Twitman and Krissy - since when does a UN Committett that says it does NO make any rulings in disputed areas - thus mean that it favours one side?
I guess the essential characteristic of becoming a Minister in any Arg Govt - is to be as thick as 2 short planks - and crammed full of your own bullshit.
”......in which we will not continue to fight for our rights in the South Atlantic”,
Apr 04th, 2016 - 09:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0'Fight for our rights,' the violin screeches as Argentina plays the victim card again.
Argentina has exactly the same rights in the South Atlantic as any other nation. Has the UN forgotten to tell them?
“If the forum of world nations recognize our sovereignty, we must be capable of further strengthening our position and follow a foreign policy which is reasonable, serious and intelligent which will enable us to recover the Islands” added Frigerio.
Apr 04th, 2016 - 11:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0Lie number 1 - the forum of world nations recognize our sovereignty
No they don't.
Lie number 2 - we must be capable of further strengthening our position
You do not have that capability nor are you likely to achieve it
Lie number 3 - reasonable
Nothing Argentina does or says about the FI is 'reasonable'
Lie number 4 - serious
Nothing Argentina does or says about the FI is 'serious'
Lie number 5 - intelligent
Nothing Argentina does or says about the FI is 'intelligent'
Lie number 6 - recover the Islands
You can't 'recover' something that was never yours
It must be so embarrassing to admit you are an argie when in a western country.
Apr 04th, 2016 - 11:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0I know my next door neighbour travels on business and has admitted he never proffers the fact, but he was hoping Macri would be different: another hope dashed.
Macri's ministers pledge not a single day rest in the fight for Malvinas sovereignty.
Apr 04th, 2016 - 01:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They are going to be pretty damned tired very quickly !
In Argentina, to the conspicuously conscious and the exceptionally learned, April 2 is properly known as National Futility Day.
Apr 04th, 2016 - 01:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#4 This is something I have asked President Marci on his facebook page (The ICJ Route), I also asked him when he or his government intended to talk directly to the Falkland Islanders as the UK wouldnt do anything without there consent. Still waiting for a reply :-)
Apr 04th, 2016 - 01:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@11
Apr 04th, 2016 - 03:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I suggest that hell will freeze over before you get a reply.
Since Argentina cannot celebrate any sort of success in its whimpering but toothless attempts to steal the islands, its national energies are spent in the pursuit and celebration of whimsy, futility, and failure, providing endless hours of amusement for both its backwater neighbours and the nations of the developed and civilised world.
Apr 04th, 2016 - 03:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“”There's not going to be a single day in the four years of Macri's presidency in which we will not continue to fight for our rights in the South Atlantic”, said Argentine Interior minister Rogelio Frigerio”
Apr 04th, 2016 - 03:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The idiot might as well have said that the persuit of this ridiculous dream , every day for the next 4 years, would just be an enormous waste of time......but if that is what it takes to keep them happy, so be it...
Let´s ponder an scenario, let´s say, another high scale war, maybe nuclear, maybe not... Much destruction, the english on their knees again.
Apr 04th, 2016 - 04:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Easy island grab, we relocate the kelpers to Buenos Aires, where they will undobutedly be very happy far away from the cold, the storms and the unrelenting wind, with the plus of latin lovers for the ladies. Then we get some mulatos down there to shag, and we do the self determination trick.
Bingo.
@15 That's the problem with the argentos.... all they can construct are imaginary scenarios so divorced from reality as to be considered mental health issues.
Apr 04th, 2016 - 06:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Let's ponder a scenario... Argentistan grows up....
Nah, not going to happen.
But Argentina being returned to Paraguay - now there is something we expect to see within the next 25 years.
Marco is quite right to be confident.
Apr 04th, 2016 - 07:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The British want rid of them, the UN is helping, Obama is supportive and Cameron is driving the case from the UK.
Just a question of time and not very long to go until I get my offshore oil company investing and developing our offshore oil and gas.
@15 LukeDig
Apr 04th, 2016 - 07:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The UK has been at 'war' since 2001. What's keeping you?
Let's ponder a scenario:
Let's say another Argentine attempt to steal the Falklands. Let's say missiles raining down on Argentina from our submarines, most of whom can be thousands of miles away and still hit their targets in Argentina.
Let's say thousands of Argentine soldiers machine gunned on the beaches, your ships sinking faster than the Belgrano. Your single prop aircraft falling from the sky.
Now let's say that the ONLY way to get the British to stop bombing the crap out of you is for Argentina to renounce forever it's ridiculous claims to the Falklands, and to pay compensation to the UK and the Falklands in the region of billions of dollars.
If you say no, we can just take payment in land, invade Patagonia, remove the illegal Spanish squatters who stole the land from the aborigines, and then create a new country run by the native amerindians, well at least the few that survived the Argentine genocide, and the persecution that continues unto this day.
That is a far more likely scenario than the one you propose.
Psst! LukeDig. If a war that big ever did break out again NATO would definitely be using the Falklands as a base. You pathetic Argentines wouldn't get anywhere near it before the British, Yanks, French or anyone else for that matter, decided to blow your ships (snigger) or single prop aircraft (snigger) out of the water/sky.
You remind me of another troll on here called Stevie. He actually thought that all it would take to invade the Falklands would be to point troops at the islands and shout go. He had no clue about how to traverse the 400 miles of sea between Argentina and the islands. Had no idea how to resupply those troops, no idea how to evacuate the wounded, and no idea how many Argentine troops would die in another pointless pursuit.
But he was willing to sacrifice 10,000 Argentines (not himself of course) to achieve his 'aim'.
Like your scenario it's fiction.
If David Cameron had a back bone, you argies would be SILENT,
Apr 04th, 2016 - 07:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0if the British government had a spine, you argies would be silenced.
you have a big mouth , shout from afar, and hid behind the skirts of the UN,
one day, Britain will have a government and a prime minister with a spine,
and your crossdressing days will be over.
@ 19 Briton
Apr 04th, 2016 - 08:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“and your crossdressing days will be over.”
That has to be one of your best! :o)
By that time the islands will have Argentinean families settled and prospering on the islands again. YPF will have its offshore HQ in the capital and the oil will flow to the mainland.
Apr 04th, 2016 - 08:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Kelpies will have long forgotten about Britain and will be happy and cooperative with their new masters from Buenos Aires..
@19 Briton,
Apr 04th, 2016 - 08:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Love it!
@18 LEPRecon,
Love it also!
A far more believable scenario than that propose by that cretin, LukeDig.
@20 ChrisR,
What has happened to our old mate, Conqueror?
Seems to have disappeared.
I bumped into Conqueror the other week while I was in London working somewhat embarrassingly as a drag queen and male prostitute. He seemed to be quite popular with the locals and Arab community and enjoying his work.....
Apr 04th, 2016 - 08:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And you paid for his time?
Apr 04th, 2016 - 09:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He was busy with a group of Arab gentlemen and we didn't get a chance to talk.
Apr 04th, 2016 - 09:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina will be returned to Paraguay within 25 years.
Apr 04th, 2016 - 09:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@18 “If you say no, we can just take payment in land, invade Patagonia, remove the illegal Spanish squatters who stole the land from the aborigines, and then create a new country run by the native amerindians, well at least the few that survived the Argentine genocide, and the persecution that continues unto this day.”
Apr 04th, 2016 - 09:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That reminds me of the British NGO (full of Brits and only a single token Mapuche) that attempts to instigate the Mapuches to make a new country in Argentina and Chile, presumably to further British interests. Though it's still debated whether the Mapuche were really indigenous to Argentina.
British always bragging about how strong they are and planning to dominate Latinos...
@27 MagnusMaster
Apr 04th, 2016 - 10:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Mapuche are far more indigenous to Argentina than any implanted European. That includes you MagnusMaster.
This is typical fascist spin. 'We didn't steal the land from the natives because they all lived elsewhere, honest.'
Only the native amerindians didn't divide up South America into countries like you European implanted colonists did. Their boundaries where far different and likely includes parts of what are now different South American countries. We'll never know for sure due to Argentina's genocide. It's destruction of an entire culture and its history.
Oh and we're not bragging about how strong we are. I was just informing your 'friend' LukeDig of the likely UK response to an attempted Argentine invasion of British territory, such as the Falkland Islands. And to show him up for the stupid comments he made.
Just like I have shown you up for the numerous stupid comments that you have made.
Hey MagnusMaster! Just a thought.
Have you got off your backside yet? Have you lifted one finger to try and change the endemic corruption that is rife in Argentina? You know, the corruption you say you're against? Have you actually done anything other than moan about it?
Or are you still blaming everyone in the world for your own inadequacies and your own inferiority complex?
It's the latter isn't it?
@27 “Though it's still debated whether the Mapuche were really indigenous to Argentina.”
Apr 04th, 2016 - 10:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0More likely to be indigenous than the argentos who carried out the genocide there.
It's curious that the foundation of the Argentine argument that mapuche are not native to Argentina is because.... they didn't call themselves mapuche.
@28 “The Mapuche are far more indigenous to Argentina than any implanted European. That includes you MagnusMaster.
Apr 04th, 2016 - 10:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This is typical fascist spin. 'We didn't steal the land from the natives because they all lived elsewhere, honest.'”
Not anywhere north of Buenos Aires. And south of Buenos Aires, they have arrived shortly before us.
We do acknowledge we stole land from the natives. There were other indigenous people in Patagonia aside from the Mapuche. Unfortunately they are all gone now.
“Have you got off your backside yet? Have you lifted one finger to try and change the endemic corruption that is rife in Argentina? You know, the corruption you say you're against? Have you actually done anything other than moan about it?
Or are you still blaming everyone in the world for your own inadequacies and your own inferiority complex?
It's the latter isn't it?”
I voted Macri, now it's up to him to face corruption. Other than joining a peaceful protest, there's nothing else a democratic average citizen can do. Within the law, at least...
One would have to wonder,
Apr 04th, 2016 - 11:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0what if Argentina Was a part of the old empire,
would it be in such a mess today,
??
@31 “if Argentina Was a part of the old empire, would it be in such a mess today,”
Apr 05th, 2016 - 01:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0Good question.
The only time in its history that Argentina was approaching successful was during the era when it enjoyed British management, technology, capital, investment, and markets.
Even before Perón it started to shed the British contributions and began the slide toward, well, the irredeemable mess that it is today.
Argentina's claim to the Falklands is as solid as the sea underneath the Belgrano
Apr 05th, 2016 - 01:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0@23
Apr 05th, 2016 - 08:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0Not very good at this English language are you, I quote your post “ I bumped into Conqueror the other week while I was in London working somewhat embarrassingly dressed as a drag queen and male prostitute”
Correction should read “ I bumped into Conqueror the other week whilst I was in London and he was working somewhat embarrassingly dressed as a drag queen and male prostitute” Just trying to be helpful
@34 golfcronie,
Apr 05th, 2016 - 09:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yes l picked that up after l had posted.
lt sounds like El Diego was “embarrassingly dressed as a drag queen and as a male prostitute”.
Well maybe El Diego was & he just wants to share his experiences with us.
“Macri's ministers pledge not a single day rest in the fight for Malvinas sovereignty”
Apr 05th, 2016 - 10:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0Are you sure you want to ditch the siestas?
“Macri's ministers pledge not a single day rest in the fight for Argentina's claim to oil rights on Mars.”
Apr 05th, 2016 - 01:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@25 El Dago
Apr 05th, 2016 - 04:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“....and we didn't get a chance to talk”.
What a pity, what happened ? did you have your mouth full of nuts and bolts ?
@36 Pete Bog
Apr 05th, 2016 - 06:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Indeed. The Falkland Islanders should keep a very close eye on these ministers and every time they have a day off or a holiday they should take out huge adverts in the Argentine press and show the people just how 'committed' they really aren't.
Macri's ministers pledge not a single day rest in the fight for Malvinas sovereignty
Apr 05th, 2016 - 07:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0More childish garbage from a third world country and a bunch of stalkers,
You brainwashed argies would rather see the destruction of your own great country,
To steal another’s territory that you have never administered or run,
You poor deluded fools.
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“ ... the fight for Malvinas sovereignty...”
Apr 05th, 2016 - 09:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's easy to talk about bulls when you don't go into the ring.
Yes, we heard about the “mapuches”, just a group of povers and beggars, saying they are aboriginals, of course, they association is funded by UK in order to screw our country, because the UK has´t got the guts to do it properly.
Apr 05th, 2016 - 11:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Aboriginals in patagonia were slain by Araucanos or Mapuches, then we proceeded to kill the Araucanos and Mapuches for stealing our cattle, killing entire villages and kidnapping women.
The rest mixed with the population, so theres no aboriginals left, only liars trying to gain some money by spinning lies with the help of the UK government.
And of course, lepercon does not surprise me, the english are nothing more than coward warmongers, bombing countries and spending trillions on military while their own people can´t make a living.
Menace all you want pal, ill make it straight to you: Argentina can, and will, because we have the technology, have plenty of nuclear weapons.
Menace with an invasion, and we can make more than one H bomb in no time. We are not the idiots at North Korea, our nuclear tech is one of the most advanced in the planet, and i´m not exaggerating.
coward warmongers, bombing countries
Apr 05th, 2016 - 11:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Name one that was not sanctioned or aided by others that you fail to name.
that does not excuse your arrogance in attacking an unarmed defenceless tiny island , and still you abuse their rights , you insult them and threaten them, you tell abhorrent lies abt them,
and you have the hypocrisy to condemn the brits.
Got a delivery system for your H bomb? Trident D-4 with MIRV?
Apr 05th, 2016 - 11:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“our nuclear tech is one of the most advanced in the planet”
Apr 06th, 2016 - 01:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0And I'm the King of Spain.
Toyota won't even let you assemble a Yaris without 24/7 supervision from Japan.
Delivery system? I heard and read in some places that South America already has a system of nuclear submarines. These babies can park near international waters and put the nukes to rest until they are needed.
Apr 06th, 2016 - 03:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0The UK will return the Malvinas within 25 years.
Apr 06th, 2016 - 04:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0@46
Apr 06th, 2016 - 07:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0No nuke subs in South America and no missile system either.
@47
Hepatitis will be cured in the next 25 years.
Argentina will implode within 25 years.
Apr 06th, 2016 - 08:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0@47
Apr 06th, 2016 - 09:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0Thanks, the rain on the roof was making a bit of noise last night so I read this and soon fell asleep. And to think, this cure for insomnia will be available for the next 25 years, then the next 25 years after that etc etc.
@42
“ Menace with an invasion, and we can make more than one H bomb in no time.”
What about the 40 Pamper 3 jets that your last defence minister said would be built( about two years) ago?
Will they be ready within the next 25 years?
LukeDig
Apr 06th, 2016 - 10:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0The problem with your little 'scenario' is that IF Argentina got its hands on a nuclear weapon and threatened to us it against the Falklands (a severe case of cutting off your nose to spite your face), the UK could legally launch a preemptive strike.
Even the Russians and Chinese told the North Koreans to stop threatening to drop nukes on South Korea and the US because it meant that the US could legally attack them.
Of course everyone knows that the North Koreans are bluffing.
Remember that the UK can safely bomb Argentina from thousands of miles away, but Argentina can't touch the UK.
Also, like your previous government you seem incapable of distinguishing between nuclear powered and nuclear armed submarines. Which really makes you look stupid.
#46
Apr 06th, 2016 - 12:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“You read and heard somewhere” Well that must be conducive proof !!!!!
You live in a fantasy world of your own warped imagination.
To what nations in S.America are you referring ? What mutual defence pact is in force in S.America and name the countries.
Do you honestly think that Jane's defence publications would be unaware of these subs. and their nuclear weapons. That you, a pre-pubescent troll has highly classified information unknown to the preeminent source of naval intelligence.
Save yourself embarrassment by posting no more drivel.
@ 46 “ I heard and read in some places that South America already has a system of nuclear submarines.”
Apr 06th, 2016 - 12:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Now that is funny. And of course prima facie evidence of clinical delusion.
Makes one wonder what sort of fictional rubbish Lukie has been reading.
Argentina can't even put together enough planes to do an ... escort ! Léalo y llore.
http://www.infobae.com/2016/03/21/1798654-la-argentina-se-quedo-aviones-militares-aptos-proteger-el-air-force-one-barack-obama
It´s widely known that theres a defence agreement with Brazil, and that Brazil has nuclear submarines as part of such agreement.
Apr 06th, 2016 - 02:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Brazil has been cooperating with Argentina and other countries to protect our natural resources, since we got the leak that there was a chance Brazil would be invaded by the US to preserve the Amazon.
And theres nothing nicer than a good nuclear deterrent near enemy shores.
No, Brazil does not have nuclear powered submarines. Not a one. Your delusions are very creative, though.
Apr 06th, 2016 - 03:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Do your parents know you are using the computer?
@54 LukeDig
Apr 06th, 2016 - 04:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Don't know where you got your information from, but you are completely wrong. At the moment, Brazil does not have any nuclear-powered subs.....they have been working on a project since the 70's , and more recently with the help of France, and agw, the sub is expected to be operational around 2020.....but, as in Brazil deadlines are hardly ever respected, that could well be 2030. Anyway, this sub will only be used exclusively to hunt down other subs (provided it doesn't sink on its maiden voyage), and will not carry ballistic missiles.
#54
Apr 06th, 2016 - 04:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Have a read at this website. This should correct your mistaken beliefs.
www.offiziere.ch/?p=22412
[The South American superpower]
Apr 06th, 2016 - 07:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0fight for Malvinas sovereignty
Argentine BLUSTER: Falklands threats are empty as Argentina's military is 'falling apart'
ARGENTINA'S military is so under-funded that most of its ships aren't seaworthy and its tanks have to be towed onto the battlefield
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/658768/Falklands-Islands-dispute-Argentina-bluster-military-threats-British-sovereignty
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@57 Clyde15
Apr 06th, 2016 - 07:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well remembered...not much has been said since the sh*t hit the fan, but looks like the sub could sink before it's even launched...
With the arrests of Othon and Odebrecht and the associated turmoil in Brazil in the submarine programme it looks like there is no chance for any sort of nuclear powered submarine until at least 2030 unless the French are given a larger part of the design and production responsibility. Which given the economic conditions also seems unlikely. So Lukie, no nuke subs for you until you're all grown up.
Apr 06th, 2016 - 09:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“an achievement of State policy which keeps the country independent from whoever rules”.
Apr 09th, 2016 - 01:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What? Keeps the country independent from the Argentine government?
Another inexplicable Argentine doctrine.
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