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Rousseff vows to fight impeachment 'to the very end' in the Senate, where she is short of ten votes

Tuesday, April 19th 2016 - 08:23 UTC
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Brazil's President Dilma Rousseff vowed on Monday to fight impeachment to the very end in the Senate after a Sunday heavy defeat in the lower house of Congress raised the likelihood of an end to her administration and 13 years of populist rule in Latin America's largest economy. Read full article

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  • L0B0MAU

    Bye Bye economy! Welcome Corruption!

    Apr 19th, 2016 - 11:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    The fat cow will go to her grave insisting she commited no impeachable offence...well, the Lower House, and now a majority of Brazilians think differently. Regardless of the crimes attributed to her, which she tries to but cannot simply ignore, the fact that her incompetent govt got Brazil into this political and economic cris, is unpardonable. She's gotta go !

    Apr 19th, 2016 - 02:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    Everybody's a critic but at the end of the day I don't see anyone who has an economic solution. “The textbook response would be to “see through”—ie, ignore—this inflation”
    www.economist.com/news/finance-and-economics/21645248-brazils-fiscal-and-monetary-levers-are-jammed-result-it-risks-getting-stuck
    ”As the government loosened fiscal policy, the Central Bank prematurely slashed its benchmark interest rate in 2011-­12. This pushed up inflation,…“
    www.economist.com/blogs/graphicdetail/2015/03/economic-backgrounder
    Since Rousseff is not in breach of any part of the Constitution and her administrative practices follow those of every previous administration she may have a valid point. She should at least be entitled to a fair and impartial trial, like any other citizen. Vox populi is fine for political decisions like elections or ”votes of confidence“ of the elected representative, but not anything of legal nature. Otherwise, there is a tacit exceptance that an an Argentine claim to the Falklands is correct.
    ”… have not found any evidence to direct involvement of Dilma Rousseff in these criminal activities. And the Brazilian presidential regime is quite specific in the Constitution: the impeachment could only be admitted in case of direct responsibility by the chief of government. That’s the reason why the attempt to remove the current president is coup d’etat and not a legal impeachment“ http://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/voices/the-coup-detat-in-brazil/
    ”..said Lincoln Secco, a professor of history at the University of São Paulo. “This will set a very dangerous precedent for democracy in Brazil, because from now on, any moment that we have a highly unpopular president, there will be pressure to start an impeachment process.” To late the genie is out of the bottle, this will have released unforeseen consequences that was not anticipated by the greedy opportunists.

    Apr 19th, 2016 - 09:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • L0B0MAU

    @3 Terence:

    NOBODY is worried or wants to “waste” their time to get the country out of any crisis.

    They are only concerned about their ridiculously high salaries & the Other “Fringe-Benefits”!
    - The fight is after all for:
    1: grabbing as much power as possible
    2: staying in power as long as possible
    3: stealing as much as possible AND
    4: getaway with it all, without being discovered!
    Watch the “investigations” disappear into thin air!
    :o))

    Apr 20th, 2016 - 01:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    4 L0B0MAU
    I'm inclined to agree with you as long as we're on the same page concerning the 'They'.

    Apr 20th, 2016 - 02:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • L0B0MAU

    @5 Terence: REF: “THEY” = The Ruling Party + The Opposition = Politicians

    Apr 20th, 2016 - 03:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    6 L0B0MAU
    I wouldn't malign all of the politicians , I think that is the sole preserve of the following. Which as the title implies they are only her opposition, but maybe you have more information. “Dilma Rousseff Targeted in Brazil by Lawmakers Facing Scandals of Their Own… …Altogether, 60 percent of the 594 members of Brazil’s Congress face serious charges like bribery, electoral fraud, illegal deforestation, kidnapping and homicide, according to Transparency Brazil, a corruption-monitoring group.” http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/15/world/americas/dilma-rousseff-targeted-in-brazil-by-lawmakers-facing-graft-cases-of-their-own.html

    Apr 20th, 2016 - 04:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • L0B0MAU

    @7: Hi, Terence!

    As mentioned by you, if not ALL, a vast majority of the politicians belong to the SAME Club - the Club of Thieves - irrespective to a country which they govern - ONE Example: The Panama Papers [and Other similar Investigative Reports].

    Perhaps you are already aware that even the Vatican is not all THAT “Holy”:
    #1º: http://www.businessinsider.com/gods-bankers-financial-scandals-at-the-vatican-2015-2
    #2º: http://www.businessinsider.com/gods-bankers-financial-scandals-at-the-vatican-2015-2

    The cocktail of Power + Money is the most potent and addictive narcotic. The more one has, more is necessary.

    Apr 20th, 2016 - 08:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    8 L0B0MAU
    If what you claim was true the respective national treasuries would have been looted eons, ago followed by an inevitable collapse. I do not subscribe to such extreme generalisations. That all of one category is either all bad or all good. I do know that in general there is a greater good at work as can be seen in the progress of so many fields of endeavour. As to “a vast majority of the politicians belong to the SAME Club - the Club of Thieves - irrespective to a country which they govern”. Is simply not true. The vast majority of first world countries never see the scale of corruption that is prevalent in Brazil. They certainly are not allowed hold office to avoid criminal judgements.

    Apr 20th, 2016 - 11:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • L0B0MAU

    @9 Hi, Terence!

    Pl. check the examples mentioned REF: Panama Papers & Vatican!

    The Off-Shore Companies were the obvious solution - discovered by the 1st World - if NOT for avoiding taxes & NOT for stashing the loot; for what else?

    The % or the Degree of Corruption differs from Country to Country. It's more obvious in the 3rd World but not necessarily Totally Absent in the 1st World. Over there, the banks, the corporations, the brokers, the lobbyists, etc. work hand-in-glove with the Govt. Officials - for the necessary cover-up.

    As mentioned; the cocktail of Power + Money is THE Most Potent AND Highly Addictive Narcotic!

    Apr 20th, 2016 - 11:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    0 L0B0MAU
    I guess what you're trying to talk about is off-shore tax havens, since you also mention avoiding taxes. You must remember that tax avoidance in the UK is not illegal tax evasion is. In fact there is a whole branch of law devoted to minimising the amount of tax can be levied, called Equity and Trusts. Certainly if you are in a high income bracket you would be remiss not to avail yourself of such features. You claim much but other than proffering your opinion, your short on specific proofs. So thanks for the personal opinion, but its not going to affect the price of cheese.

    Apr 21st, 2016 - 01:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • L0B0MAU

    @11 Hi, Terence!

    To generalize broadly, the scandals in Brazil & the Other Scandals REF: Panama Papers, Vatican, etc. is sufficient proof of corruption, to begin with!

    I need not go into the details of the legal situation in each country; as the Degree and the modus operandi of Corruption differs from Country to Country.

    Apr 21st, 2016 - 03:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    12 L0B0MAU
    So we are agreed there is a high degree of corruption in Brazil, and since this is a human activity some other humans on the planet act likewise. We are further agreed, that not all Brazilians are corrupted and that not all people are corrupt. Are we still on the same page or are there more sweeping generalisations you would like to add, your point being?

    Apr 21st, 2016 - 10:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • L0B0MAU

    @13 Terence: The degree of corruption in Brazil is mind boggling indeed! Agreed and not generalizing! :o))

    Apr 21st, 2016 - 02:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • EscoSes Doido

    If the majority of Brazilians want her gone, which it is very clear they do, and they met the heavily biased ratio of votes needed to commence impeachment no problem. Then this is democracy indeed. It is the right of Brasileiros to remove a leader they feel has damaged Brasil. (All the PT really)

    Apr 21st, 2016 - 03:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • L0B0MAU

    Is the investigation likely to vaporise?
    In spite of the Allegations + Accusations + Evidence + Condemnation + Only 10% Popularity:
    - NO Prosecution,
    - NO Trial,
    - NO Judgement,
    - NO Verdict!
    - NO Plebiscite?
    - NO Referendum?
    - NO Early Election?
    - NOTHING?
    - WHY?

    Apr 22nd, 2016 - 09:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    7 :o)) (#) aka L0B0MAU The champion of all spammers, the least original poster on this site. The man who has nothing of substance to say NO EVIDENCE- NOTHING? - WHY?

    Apr 22nd, 2016 - 09:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • :o))

    @17 Terence

    U r missing the point - pl. re-read”: In spite of the Allegations + Accusations + Evidence + Condemnation + Only 10% Popularity

    Apr 23rd, 2016 - 09:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0

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