Argentine foreign minister Susana Malcorra said she plans to meet with British officials to address a multiple agenda and a pending issue, in the framework of a transparency meeting scheduled to take place in London. Read full article
If Malcorra wants to do some confidence building on the Malvinas Issue then she will find a lot more of her audience in Port Stanley rather than wasting everybodys time in London.
How strange that the article said 'and again pointed out that ”Argentina is open to talk to everybody“' Last time I heard the RG government wouldn't talk to the Falkland Island Government which means there won't be any shift in the current position. The Falklands will remain British and the Malvinas will still be a mythical place.
You say...:
Doesn't Malcorra have some dishes to wash, or something comparatively more useful to do?
I say...:
You mean... Like meeting chubby Lord Price..., UK's Minister of State for Trade and Investment, just arrived to Buenos Aires to try to promote some juicy British trade with Argentina???
Ps...:
Conspicuous that Anglo Business friendly MercoPress doesn't inform you Anglo Turnip posters of such official Anglo visits... and stuff...
Part of your brainwash..., I reckon
Just another Rift to develop between the two countries. Clumsy weasel words in an attempt to disguise the real intent. One of those MOU efforts so popular in some quarters.
Actually I have no issue with Malcorra. I find her quite competent and feel sorry that she still has to represent the Malvinas Myth, but am thankful that it is deprioritised.
Even this government is beholden to a stupid constitution. They just don't let it overrule the country's interests.
You presume wrongly...
... More the City Core of UK Businessmen stand to lose in trade and investments in South America..., more will they press their Chauvinistic Chav Compatriots to forget all about them Argentinean windblown Islands in the South Atlantic...
The present RG regime has to give lip service to the myth if they want to stay in power.
Otherwise would be a bit like an Australian politician saying 'Gallipoli? It was 100 years ago... we lost... get over it...'
Not going to happen...
No time for these people. we should now be putting pressure on Argentina to stop with this silly nonsensical claim They need us and our friends to get their county back on track and that should be made very plain to them that unless they put pen to paper revoking every single word of the claim. Or they can carry on wallowing in the same kind of crap they have been wallowing in for the past 70 years with help from us who can make it even worse for them.
”Argentina is open to talk to everybody“' - except Falkland Islanders as they don't really exist - a non-people who do not have the right to self-determination - apparently
If she brings up the matter of the Falklands/Malvinas on the occasion of her visit to London she should be directed immediately and politely to the self governing British Overseas Territory a couple of hours flight to the south east from Bs As.
The people there can talk for themselves and they are very well qualified so to do!
It's for internal consumption, she can say whatever she wants to in terms of what she would like to discuss. But in reality she will probably insert a sentence somewhere, to someone and say they had a very constructive discussion with a view to moving forward. None of which will be reported or minuted by anyone else but the official Arg. Gov. press. Just to keep the sheep happy.
”Argentina is open to talk to everybody“
Is pretty unequivocal.
Thus they will be up for talking to the duly elected representatives of the people of the Falkland Islands.
Again worth reminding folks that the UN recognizes the right of self determination as fundamental and this applies to any people or Population , they use the term interchangeably.
“Most surely the issue will be part of the discussions we are going to hold, but I'm not forecasting anything spectacular.”
Same old, same old. The trouble with all these malvinas Muppets is that they present what they want to happen as fact. But that fits in with the overall malvinas myth. Once they started telling fibs there was no turning back.
How would Argentina feel if a neighbouring country declared that Argentina belonged to them, gave it a different name, tried to use force to gain control of it and then continued to harass, embargo, bad mouth and try and delegitimise the Argentine people and their right to exist?
Anglo Downunder Turnip at (22) asks...:
How would Argentina feel if a neighbouring country declared that Argentina belonged to them, gave it a different name, tried to use force to gain control of it and then continued to harass, embargo, bad mouth and try and delegitimise the Argentine people and their right to exist?
I Think that...:
If a non-neighbouring country declared that a part of Argentina belonged to them..., gave it a different name..., used force to gain control of it and then continued to harass, embargo **, bad mouth and tried to delegitimise the Argentinean people and their right to exist..., Argentina would fee exactlyl as it feels today about our Malvinas Islands...
** https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-French_blockade_of_the_Río_de_la_Plata
#30
If you wish to use that term, I think it is a complement. The lowland Sassenachs as you so ignorantly put it, have contributed more to Science, Engineering, Art and philanthropy than your adopted joke of a country.
Anyway Scotland has bugger all to do with you .....unless ?
As of immigrant stock, what have you to be proud of ?
#30
..................................................................................... occupied, by the legitimate owners.
As a firm supporter of the ICJ to resolve disputes - as per your statements in the Belize posts - you are perfectly at liberty to persuade your legislature to take the case forward. You MUST win as you are SO sure of your facts - (Argentinian synonym for fiction).
Being careful not to forget' the Armenians, the Ashkenazim , the Sefardi, the Bolivian, Paraguayan, Peruvian and Uruguayan, the Welsh, the Scots, the Mennonites and the Scandinavians....
The malvinistas truly post a lot of nonsense in these columns from time to time - especially the THING 0000ps I meant THINK! Above he is really sinking to an all-time low!
The malvinazi-fixation might be a pending issue. But my impression, from a distance, is that there is no clinic in London for such derangement.
Philippe
Think being Think again.
More deflection & lies.
Well Thick Squatter Think, the Chinese invasion fleet didn't arrive so now you're banking on a British trade mission to champion your cause.
You are getting desperate!
Actually, there are/were several spellings. The original was Goorka.
” Even though in the 1890´s the British Army decided to use the spelling “GURKHA” other ways of spelling were used too.
After the Independence of India the Indian Army Gurkha units changed to use the old spelling “Gorkha.”
A rose by any other name.
An old Mercopiss story on Gurkhas and Argies in 1982 . There have been other stories in the Argie press about the terror in some of their units on hearing that the Gurkhas were heading for them. Good psyops, actually.
@49 I seem to recall comments that the Gurkhas were monumentally annoyed that they were not allowed to take part in combat operations on land during the Falklands war. But that doesn't keep the Argentine rumour mill from the usual flights of fancy. I heard one argie say that the Gurkhas were sent ahead of the other UK units as carne de cañon when assaulting argie strongpoints because the ingleses were too cowardly to do so on their own.
The argies went so far as to develop and distribute to their media a list of the names of Gurkhas that were supposedly killed in the war but never recognised by the UK casualty numbers. A closer look at the Nepalese-sounding names reveals that they are things like place-names in North Korea and the Philippines, and the Nepalese themselves can't seem to identify any unaccounted-for Gurkhas. Fits in nicely with the argie claims that they sunk the carrier Invincible and discovered oil on the moon.
The argie capacity for invention in story-telling, whether in military matters or economic statistics, is certainly greater than their war-fighting prowess.
Fits in nicely with the argie claims that they sunk the carrier Invincible
Like the Super Gauchos that were supposed to be sent to the Islands to combat the Ghurkas. Corned Beef Kate said they had longer knives than the Ghurkas-must be true, a mate of mine heard her calling the task force to urge our 'brave boys' to turn back or be massacred by the Super Gauchos.
My theory is that the Super Gauchos wanted to go but Galteiri didn't give them horses that could swim across to the Islands.
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Disclaimer & comment rulesDoesn't Malacara have some dishes to wash, or something comparatively more useful to do ?
May 05th, 2016 - 05:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0If Malcorra wants to do some confidence building on the Malvinas Issue then she will find a lot more of her audience in Port Stanley rather than wasting everybodys time in London.
May 05th, 2016 - 06:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0How strange that the article said 'and again pointed out that ”Argentina is open to talk to everybody“' Last time I heard the RG government wouldn't talk to the Falkland Island Government which means there won't be any shift in the current position. The Falklands will remain British and the Malvinas will still be a mythical place.
May 05th, 2016 - 06:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0(1) Marti Llazo... (and all other Anglo Turnips)
May 05th, 2016 - 08:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0You say...:
Doesn't Malcorra have some dishes to wash, or something comparatively more useful to do?
I say...:
You mean... Like meeting chubby Lord Price..., UK's Minister of State for Trade and Investment, just arrived to Buenos Aires to try to promote some juicy British trade with Argentina???
Ps...:
Conspicuous that Anglo Business friendly MercoPress doesn't inform you Anglo Turnip posters of such official Anglo visits... and stuff...
Part of your brainwash..., I reckon
Usurpation!
May 05th, 2016 - 08:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0UN Resolutions!!
https://www.academia.edu/21721198/Falklands_1833_Usurpation_and_UN_Resolutions
Ooops!
Just another Rift to develop between the two countries. Clumsy weasel words in an attempt to disguise the real intent. One of those MOU efforts so popular in some quarters.
May 05th, 2016 - 08:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0Actually I have no issue with Malcorra. I find her quite competent and feel sorry that she still has to represent the Malvinas Myth, but am thankful that it is deprioritised.
May 05th, 2016 - 09:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0Even this government is beholden to a stupid constitution. They just don't let it overrule the country's interests.
#4
May 05th, 2016 - 09:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0I presume that Argentina will not wish to sell goods to the UK . Brainwashed Argie turnip.
As usual, you must make remarks about someone's physical appearance.
Nothing worthwhile to say except snide comments.
(8) Lowlander Clyde15
May 05th, 2016 - 09:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0You presume wrongly...
... More the City Core of UK Businessmen stand to lose in trade and investments in South America..., more will they press their Chauvinistic Chav Compatriots to forget all about them Argentinean windblown Islands in the South Atlantic...
About Chubby Lord Price...
It ain't me giving him that luuuuvely nick..., laddie....
It's the Torygraph writing lovingly about one of their own...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/04/16/waitroses-chubby-grocer-tells-james-quinn-why-global-exports-top/
Pending issue?? Argentina has been saying that - with gaps - since 1833.
May 05th, 2016 - 10:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0Must be getting rather dog-eared by now. LOL
The present RG regime has to give lip service to the myth if they want to stay in power.
May 05th, 2016 - 10:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0Otherwise would be a bit like an Australian politician saying 'Gallipoli? It was 100 years ago... we lost... get over it...'
Not going to happen...
No time for these people. we should now be putting pressure on Argentina to stop with this silly nonsensical claim They need us and our friends to get their county back on track and that should be made very plain to them that unless they put pen to paper revoking every single word of the claim. Or they can carry on wallowing in the same kind of crap they have been wallowing in for the past 70 years with help from us who can make it even worse for them.
May 05th, 2016 - 10:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0”Argentina is open to talk to everybody“' - except Falkland Islanders as they don't really exist - a non-people who do not have the right to self-determination - apparently
May 05th, 2016 - 10:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0If she brings up the matter of the Falklands/Malvinas on the occasion of her visit to London she should be directed immediately and politely to the self governing British Overseas Territory a couple of hours flight to the south east from Bs As.
May 05th, 2016 - 11:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0The people there can talk for themselves and they are very well qualified so to do!
#9
May 05th, 2016 - 12:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0them -mythical-Argentinean windblown Islands in the South Atlantic...
Please use the correct terminology.
It's for internal consumption, she can say whatever she wants to in terms of what she would like to discuss. But in reality she will probably insert a sentence somewhere, to someone and say they had a very constructive discussion with a view to moving forward. None of which will be reported or minuted by anyone else but the official Arg. Gov. press. Just to keep the sheep happy.
May 05th, 2016 - 12:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@4 Tinkle, you misquoted me again. Shame on you.
May 05th, 2016 - 01:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And you persist in most other errors as well. How very argie of you.
”Argentina is open to talk to everybody“
May 05th, 2016 - 02:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Is pretty unequivocal.
Thus they will be up for talking to the duly elected representatives of the people of the Falkland Islands.
Again worth reminding folks that the UN recognizes the right of self determination as fundamental and this applies to any people or Population , they use the term interchangeably.
discussions we are going to hold, but I'm not forecasting anything spectacular,
May 05th, 2016 - 07:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0who are they holding talks with,
what are they hoping for,
why not take it to the ICJ,
or do they really believe they are going to come away from Britain with billions in trade deals and the Falkland's thrown in for good measure,
they are even more deluded than CFK was.
The UK will return the Malvinas within 25 years.
May 06th, 2016 - 12:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0Good to hear Hepatia. As it will still be 25 years next year I guess the Falkland Islanders can sleep easily.
May 06th, 2016 - 03:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Most surely the issue will be part of the discussions we are going to hold, but I'm not forecasting anything spectacular.”
May 06th, 2016 - 08:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0Same old, same old. The trouble with all these malvinas Muppets is that they present what they want to happen as fact. But that fits in with the overall malvinas myth. Once they started telling fibs there was no turning back.
How would Argentina feel if a neighbouring country declared that Argentina belonged to them, gave it a different name, tried to use force to gain control of it and then continued to harass, embargo, bad mouth and try and delegitimise the Argentine people and their right to exist?
Then they would have a right to complain.
One problem there ...
May 06th, 2016 - 09:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0 Bilateral
Still not getting it , are they ?
Anglo Downunder Turnip at (22) asks...:
May 06th, 2016 - 10:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0How would Argentina feel if a neighbouring country declared that Argentina belonged to them, gave it a different name, tried to use force to gain control of it and then continued to harass, embargo, bad mouth and try and delegitimise the Argentine people and their right to exist?
I Think that...:
If a non-neighbouring country declared that a part of Argentina belonged to them..., gave it a different name..., used force to gain control of it and then continued to harass, embargo **, bad mouth and tried to delegitimise the Argentinean people and their right to exist..., Argentina would fee exactlyl as it feels today about our Malvinas Islands...
** https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-French_blockade_of_the_Río_de_la_Plata
Same old crap to the same crap in The Dark Country.
May 06th, 2016 - 10:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0It will take 50 years to get over the stupid bastards named Peron and Kirchener.
Such a pity for Argentines with brains like my friends.
Apparently CFK even had statues made to immortalise her,
May 06th, 2016 - 11:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0deludes woman.
#24
May 06th, 2016 - 01:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your analogy fails in respect of you comparison with the Falklands. As they are not Argentinian your submission and comparison is invalid.
.......................................................................................................................says a lowlander sassenach
May 06th, 2016 - 01:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Pssssst..... Tinkle.... the Falklands are British.
May 06th, 2016 - 01:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0....................................................................................... occupied.
May 06th, 2016 - 01:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Tierra del Fuego....... occupied...... (but first we kill off all the native people there)
May 06th, 2016 - 03:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#30
May 06th, 2016 - 04:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If you wish to use that term, I think it is a complement. The lowland Sassenachs as you so ignorantly put it, have contributed more to Science, Engineering, Art and philanthropy than your adopted joke of a country.
Anyway Scotland has bugger all to do with you .....unless ?
As of immigrant stock, what have you to be proud of ?
#30
..................................................................................... occupied, by the legitimate owners.
As a firm supporter of the ICJ to resolve disputes - as per your statements in the Belize posts - you are perfectly at liberty to persuade your legislature to take the case forward. You MUST win as you are SO sure of your facts - (Argentinian synonym for fiction).
Argentina.............................................occupied by Anglo Spanish squatters
May 06th, 2016 - 07:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You forgot the Italians. Anglo Spanish Italian?
May 06th, 2016 - 07:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And the Syrians. And the Germans. And the Croatians. And the Chilotes.
May 06th, 2016 - 09:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Being careful not to forget' the Armenians, the Ashkenazim , the Sefardi, the Bolivian, Paraguayan, Peruvian and Uruguayan, the Welsh, the Scots, the Mennonites and the Scandinavians....
May 06th, 2016 - 09:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well I guess we can be thankful that the Falkland Islands are not Argentinean ................................................ occupied!
May 06th, 2016 - 10:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The malvinistas truly post a lot of nonsense in these columns from time to time - especially the THING 0000ps I meant THINK! Above he is really sinking to an all-time low!
May 07th, 2016 - 05:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0What a nabo - even boludo!
The malvinazi-fixation might be a pending issue. But my impression, from a distance, is that there is no clinic in London for such derangement.
May 07th, 2016 - 02:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Philippe
'pending issue'
May 07th, 2016 - 06:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The only real issue, is when will the argentine government grow up,
stop throwing its dummy out of the pram, and walk,
the British Falkland's is not for sale.
Think being Think again.
May 08th, 2016 - 09:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0More deflection & lies.
Well Thick Squatter Think, the Chinese invasion fleet didn't arrive so now you're banking on a British trade mission to champion your cause.
You are getting desperate!
Did you know that you could terrorise 42 million argentos -- loose-sphinctered, white-lipped, hare-in-headlights terror - with just four simple words?
May 09th, 2016 - 09:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The British are coming!
@42
May 10th, 2016 - 05:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0I can use one word Gurkas
Careful @43, you could wipe out that Skandi squatter Think and deprive us of regular spells of amusement!
May 10th, 2016 - 12:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@43 ' I can use one word “ Gurkas ” '
May 10th, 2016 - 02:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You meant ' Gurkhas' ?
Actually, there are/were several spellings. The original was Goorka.
May 10th, 2016 - 05:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0” Even though in the 1890´s the British Army decided to use the spelling “GURKHA” other ways of spelling were used too.
After the Independence of India the Indian Army Gurkha units changed to use the old spelling “Gorkha.”
A rose by any other name.
Now you have done it. Don't even Think about mentioning thhe Kukri - Oops whats that smell?
May 10th, 2016 - 10:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0An old Mercopiss story on Gurkhas and Argies in 1982 . There have been other stories in the Argie press about the terror in some of their units on hearing that the Gurkhas were heading for them. Good psyops, actually.
May 11th, 2016 - 01:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://en.mercopress.com/2001/06/13/gurkha-soldier-remembers-terror-of-argentines
Have they located the secret grave with the thousand Gurkhas buried in it yet ?
May 11th, 2016 - 03:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@49 I seem to recall comments that the Gurkhas were monumentally annoyed that they were not allowed to take part in combat operations on land during the Falklands war. But that doesn't keep the Argentine rumour mill from the usual flights of fancy. I heard one argie say that the Gurkhas were sent ahead of the other UK units as carne de cañon when assaulting argie strongpoints because the ingleses were too cowardly to do so on their own.
May 11th, 2016 - 06:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The argies went so far as to develop and distribute to their media a list of the names of Gurkhas that were supposedly killed in the war but never recognised by the UK casualty numbers. A closer look at the Nepalese-sounding names reveals that they are things like place-names in North Korea and the Philippines, and the Nepalese themselves can't seem to identify any unaccounted-for Gurkhas. Fits in nicely with the argie claims that they sunk the carrier Invincible and discovered oil on the moon.
The argie capacity for invention in story-telling, whether in military matters or economic statistics, is certainly greater than their war-fighting prowess.
Fits in nicely with the argie claims that they sunk the carrier Invincible
May 12th, 2016 - 12:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Like the Super Gauchos that were supposed to be sent to the Islands to combat the Ghurkas. Corned Beef Kate said they had longer knives than the Ghurkas-must be true, a mate of mine heard her calling the task force to urge our 'brave boys' to turn back or be massacred by the Super Gauchos.
My theory is that the Super Gauchos wanted to go but Galteiri didn't give them horses that could swim across to the Islands.
Argentina: the North Korea of South America.
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