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Ban Ki-moon emphasizes on the 'freely expressed will' for non-self-governing territories

Wednesday, June 1st 2016 - 08:40 UTC
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According to the UN charter the full measure of self-government of the peoples of the Non-Self-Governing Territories must be the result of the freely expressed will and desire of those peoples, said UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon in his message to the opening of the Pacific Regional Seminar on Decolonization, currently taking place in Managua, Nicaragua. Read full article

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  • Clyde15

    ”The choice should be the result of the freely expressed will and desire of the peoples of the Non-Self-Governing Territories”.

    Do we know the wishes of the Falkland Islanders ? I think so.

    Of course we could always have a re-run of the vote under the auspices of the UN. Would that satisfy Argentina...probably not. The UN suits them when they think it agrees with their demands. Here is a chance to settle it.

    Jun 01st, 2016 - 09:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jo Bloggs

    1 Clyde

    I vote for free association with the UK.

    Now wait for the deadbeats to say the Falkland Islanders shouldn't be here in the first place so we can't vote.

    Yawn.

    Jun 01st, 2016 - 09:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Voice

    2
    It would be nice if they had free association with the UK...
    Instead of partially ruled by the UK....

    ...status que is not one of the choices....

    Jun 01st, 2016 - 10:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    3 Voice, V0ice, Vestige, Think et al, sock-puppeteer and impersonator extraordinaire
    “…status que is not one of the choices….” Oh yes it is. But, it's not my burden to prove it. Its yours to prove your assertion.

    Jun 01st, 2016 - 11:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GALlamosa

    To save you the problem (thanks Terence, you are correct) the fourth option is any other arrangement suitable to the people of the NSGT. So the status quo is an option. Problem is so many of the members of the C24 have a vested interest in their own colonial/separatist issues they refuse to address themselves to the fourth option (India/Kashmir, Indonesia/Ache, Iraq/Kurdistan, Russia/Crimes, China/Taiwan & Spratleys, Tanzania/Zanzibar, Syria, Iran, Morocco/W Sahara....the list goes on. The Terms of Reference of the C24 is to assist the people of the NSGT. The established patters of the C24 is to ensure that absolutely nothing happens that damages the domestic position of the members of the committee.

    Jun 01st, 2016 - 11:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Voice

    “the Charter of the United Nations and relevant General Assembly resolutions, a full measure of self-government can be achieved through independence, integration or free association with another State. The choice should be the result of the freely expressed will and desire of the peoples of the Non-Self-Governing Territories”

    Bahahahaha… VoiceofThink , the referendum said it all. Trumped yet again.

    Jun 01st, 2016 - 11:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • tezza

    Does this mean Spain will (finally) hand back its two N African colonies?

    Jun 01st, 2016 - 11:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    British Falklands full top,

    they have spoken so let it be.

    Jun 01st, 2016 - 11:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • MALVINERO SUPREMO

    JAJAJAJJAJAJA the brutish dream of LEBENSRAUM in the south Atlantic.Too bad that the law of the sea does not help the MAlvinenses....Nothing they can do,with waters UNDER ARGENTINE SOVEREIGNTY.The chair,specific unit for NSGT,words are:“C24 chair says Falklands issue is over sovereignty, not exactly decolonization”..... The only one body that can take MAlvinas out of the colonial status,is a UNGA res...And MAlvinense WILL NEVER GET THAT..JAJJAJAJA Interpret the words of Banki, any way you like.They will never be independent,until the SOVEREIGNTY ISSUE is resolved..NOTHING the uk can do..

    Jun 01st, 2016 - 12:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #9
    The sovereignty has been resolved as lately as 1982. It is British...end of story.
    You can whine , insult , threaten but it will be to no avail..
    As to waters under Argentine sovereignty, you are correct. We have no complaints about that. Just as the Falklands have their own sovereign waters and there is NOTHING you can do about that.
    The bottom lone is, we have a navy, you don't.
    To use your idiotic expression...JAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJA ad infinitum.
    Or, the British equivalent nyah nyah nyah....if you don't understand, it is the expression of smug triumph

    Jun 01st, 2016 - 12:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • darragh

    No don't tell me, don't tell me...let me guess... oh yeah,

    'it doesn't apply to the Falkland Islanders because they are not a people only implants'.

    Interesting the way that mal sup's English has improved and how he uses the idiotic voice/think/troll/whatever 'brutish' - just a thought.

    Jun 01st, 2016 - 02:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • MALVINERO SUPREMO

    #10 The sovereignty has been resolved as lately as 1982. It is British...end of story.
    You can whine , insult , threaten but it will be to no avail..
    As to waters under Argentine sovereignty, you are correct. We have no complaints about that. Just as the Falklands have their own sovereign waters and there is NOTHING you can do about that.
    The bottom lone is, we have a navy, you don't AJJAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaajjjJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.
    The RN is at the SOUTH ATLANTIC BOTTOM,and in 20 years,we are going to surpass you in everything !uk is FINISHED!http://www.forbes.com/sites/robertlenzner/2011/11/27/help-europe-cannot-service-its-foreign-debt/#3934ea706cf9 #11,good for nothing.GET the INDEPENDENCE WITHOUT a UNGA res........JAJAJJAJJAJJAJAJJAJpoor brutish MALVINAS ARGENTINAS,LOSER!

    Jun 01st, 2016 - 02:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Roger Lorton

    Free Association is not an option offered by the UK which had a bad experience of the idea with Jamaica. All the responsibility, and no control.

    It is interesting that the UN continues to ignore its own 4th option under Resolution 2625 of 1970 - ie. “ the emergence into any other political status freely determined by a people constitute modes of implementing the right of self-determination by that people... ”

    Looks like the Falklands will just remain listed. Not that it matters very much :-)

    Jun 01st, 2016 - 02:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #12
    We are sitting in the Falklands and you cannot get there. You don't have a ship that could sail there. Poor little worthless country. Just look at your post. You quote a 5 year old article. Compared with Argentina we are Gold plated, remember it was YOUR country that defaulted...not us.
    ..JAJAJJAJJAJJAJAJJAJpoor brutish MALVINAS ARGENTINAS,LOSER!
    I think if you look back to 1982 it was YOU who lost decisively and would do so again if you had the nerve to try it. It must be hard for you being SO INFERIOR ...get used to it
    As I said already nyah, nyah nyah.

    I apologise to other posters for taking this line but really, are children allowed to post here. I doubt if he is over 14 years old.

    Jun 01st, 2016 - 02:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • darragh

    @12 malsup

    Still linking to the same old 5 year old article I see - like I said on another thread if that article is proof of the demise of the UK why hasn't it happened in the ensuing years?

    As for the Royal Navy being at the bottom of the South Atlantic - during the Falklands War you managed to sink 4 RN ships in the meantime the glorious Argentine Armada dashed of to port never to be seen again as soon as one (just one) of it's ships had been sunk.

    As of 19 March 2016, (note 2016 not 2011) there are 77 commissioned ships in the Royal Navy. 19 of the commissioned vessels are major surface combatants (six guided missile destroyers and 13 frigates) and 11 are nuclear-powered submarines (four ballistic missile submarines and seven fleet submarines). In addition the Navy possesses a landing platform helicopter, two amphibious transport docks, 15 mine countermeasures vessels, 22 patrol vessels, four survey vessels and shortly will have two rather large Aircraft Carriers.

    The UNGA has no right to give or refuse independence to anybody as they are only an advisory body.

    Before you post anything else on any thread do try to at least get some of your facts correct.

    Do have a nice day

    kind regards.

    Jun 01st, 2016 - 02:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Alejo

    https://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/81/USS_John_C._Stennis_(CVN-74)_%2526_HMS_Illustrious_(R_06).jpg&imgrefurl=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_Elizabeth-class_aircraft_carrier&h=1217&w=2021&tbnid=wcHv3B5fosKTgM:&tbnh=160&tbnw=265&docid=vHVDASQtvTJnaM&usg=__-nUl7d9bIBRdDgLbAbuvbfVTlt8=&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwid6NignIfNAhUGPxQKHVbJDxAQ9QEIIDAA

    Malvinero (nabo) Supremo should take a look at that link.

    Jun 01st, 2016 - 04:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @9. But the “Decolonisation Committee” is thoroughly discredited and powerless. Still, if you like to extract hope from the words of an Ecuadorian quisling, go for it.
    @12. Have you noticed that most of your “shits”, sorry “ships” can't put to sea? Have you noticed that the Royal Navy has a strike range of around 7,000 miles? The argie flotilla has a range of around 500 miles. Then it sinks. You're really off in la la land. Don't come back until you've learned about intelligence. And acquired some. Buenos Aires could be annihilated, from the English Channel, in about 30 minutes.

    Jun 01st, 2016 - 04:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    9,12 MALVINERO SUPREMO
    “Too bad that the law of the sea does not help the MAlvinenses....Nothing they can do.” Too bad you've got that wrong. ”International Court of Justice (ICJ) in the North Sea continental shelf cases, in which Denmark and the Netherlands based their claim inter alia on the doctrine of proximity, i.e., that the part of the continental shelf closest to the part of the state in question falls automatically under that state's jurisdiction. In these cases the ICJ rejected any contiguity type of approach. As for continuity, it is argued, the 1958 Geneva Convention on the Continental Shelf and Contiguous Zone, Article 1, now contained in the 1982 Law of the Sea Convention, Article 76, does not support the view that coastal states have sovereignty over islands above the continental shelf. On the contrary it laid down doctrine that islands had their own “continental shelves,” p.74
    The Falklands/Malvinas Case Breaking the Deadlock in the Anglo-Argentine... By Roberto C. Laver
    “GET the INDEPENDENCE WITHOUT a UNGA res..” They have as the one you're referring too is null and void as it conflicts with UN Charter and at least four ICJ rulings.

    Jun 01st, 2016 - 04:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    TWIMC

    The Observer..., London..., Anno 1833...
    “” It seems that the occupation of the Falkland Islands by his Majesty's ship Clio, is likely to be made a national question by the Republics of South America.
    Buenos Ayres, it is known, has solemnly protested against it.
    The Bolivian Government have followed the example of Buenos Ayres, and both are endeavouring to rouse the other nations of the American Continent, and particularly the United States, to second their remonstrances, and if they fail, to resist what they call an unprincipled act of aggression.“”
    http://www.theguardian.com/theguardian/2012/dec/08/falkland-islands-british-occupation-1833

    A “ Special Occupation Case” that must be dealt accordingly....
    As repeateadly stated by the pertinent UN Special Committee...

    Jun 01st, 2016 - 07:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • MALVINERO SUPREMO

    Free Association is not an option offered by the UK which had a bad experience of the idea with Jamaica. All the responsibility, and no control.

    It is interesting that the UN continues to ignore its own 4th option under Resolution 2625 of 1970 - ie. “ the emergence into any other political status freely determined by a people constitute modes of implementing the right of self-determination by that people... ”

    Looks like the Falklands will just remain listed. Not that it matters very much :-)

    uk is FINISHED in the SOuth Atlantic,lordtonto...

    Too bad you've got that wrong. ”International Court of Justice (ICJ) in the North Sea continental shelf cases, in which Denmark and the Netherlands based their claim inter alia on the doctrine of proximity, i.e., that the part of the continental shelf closest to the part of the state in question falls automatically under that state's jurisdiction. In these cases the ICJ rejected any contiguity type of approach. As for continuity, it is argued, the 1958 Geneva Convention on the Continental Shelf and Contiguous Zone, Article 1, now contained in the 1982 Law of the Sea Convention, Article 76, does not support the view that coastal states have sovereignty over islands above the continental shelf. On the contrary it laid down doctrine that islands had their own “continental shelves,” p.74
    JAJAJaj MAy be MAlvinas,but the sea SURROUNDING it,belongs to the coastal state.MAlvinas is NOT a COUNTRY,UNLESS the UN says so....MEanwhile is a COLONY!MALvinas listed at the UN,as NSGT,and is CURRENT!http://www.un.org/en/decolonization/nonselfgovterritories.shtml
    Meanwhile the uk is POWERLESS,and if Argnetina decide to play hard,take the case to the ITLOS,and Argnetina will win...no question about it..http://www.un.org/en/decolonization/nonselfgovterritories.shtml

    Jun 01st, 2016 - 08:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jo Bloggs

    19

    Poor old Think.

    Jun 01st, 2016 - 08:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @20
    Poor old Think(or at least his understudy).
    @11 darragh,
    l “Think” that you might be on to something here.

    Jun 01st, 2016 - 09:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (21) & (22)

    POOR OLD THINK..., huhhhhhh...?

    POOR... and blessed............................., for ours is the Kingdom of God... (JC)
    OLD... and wise... (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NLtFsiOFn-4)
    THINK...

    Chuckle chuckle...

    Jun 01st, 2016 - 09:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jo Bloggs

    22

    By Think I mean the poster via various personas too numerous to list here.

    Referring tediously to 1833 is like clutching at straws in the dark with your hands tied behind your back.

    Poor old Think.

    Jun 01st, 2016 - 09:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    19 Voice, V0ice, Vestige, Think et al, sock-puppeteer and impersonator extraordinaire
    It's a pity that legal rights take precedent because that means Argentina is shit out luck. Since they had ignored two UK diplomatic protests and by acting unilaterally meant that by their 'silence' they had acquiesced to the UK's claim. Moreover, they had entitled the UK to act unilaterally, and to reciprocate Argentine refusals to even engage in discussions on the matter.
    'As late as 1886 the Secretary of State found it necessary to inform the Argentine Government that as “the resumption of actual occupation of the Falkland Islands by Great Britain in 1833 took place under a claim of title which had been previously asserted and maintained by that Government, it is not seen that the Monroe Doctrine, which has been invoked on the part of the Argentine Republic, has any application to the case. By the terms in which that principle of international conduct was announced, it was expressly excluded from retroactive operation.”
    P.60 Sovereignty and the Falkland Islands Crisis D.W. Greig
    20 MALVINERO SUPREMO “but the sea SURROUNDING it, belongs to the coastal state.” Not according to Law of the Sea Convention, or the rulings of the ICJ otherwise you’ed be able to show a country intention.

    Jun 01st, 2016 - 09:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • VoiceOver

    The birdbrain who for unknown reasons calls himself “Think” - Think?!? but that's exactly what he can't - quotes: “The Bolivian Government have followed the example of Buenos Ayres, and both are endeavouring to rouse the other nations of the American Continent, and particularly the United States, ...”

    Did they? noooo, yet another failure.

    The US calmly told the poor little buggers that the Monroe Doctrine is NOT retroactive, so stop whining.

    Jun 01st, 2016 - 09:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • MALVINERO SUPREMO

    #15: MALVINAS is a COLONY!Here read,from the brutish:https://www.gov.uk/types-of-british-nationality/british-overseas-territories-citizen.
    Colonies DO NOT have the same right as State.Argnetina is a coastal state,and the extension of the Argentinean continental shelf,proved SCIENTIFICALLY and recognized by the UNCLOS,accepted and stamped,recognize,the extension of the continental shelf,includes MAlvinas.https://www.gov.uk/types-of-british-nationality/british-overseas-territories-citizen. NOw it is a MARITIME legal problem,and the uk CAN NEVER WINS THAT...NOOO BODY WILL SUPPORT the uk PIRACY,against a military weaker state.....NOT EVEN the best man's ally,the USA.NOR canada,nor Australia...

    Jun 01st, 2016 - 09:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #27
    Still ranting I see. Of course, the whole world loves and supports Argentina.
    Have you any more jokes to tell?

    Jun 01st, 2016 - 10:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    27 MALVINERO SUPREMO
    UNCLOS is not provisioned with any legal authority. In recognition of this fact they refused to make any determination over the disputed areas between Argentina and the UK. So the only legal determination which has been made is by the ICJ in the 'North Sea continental shelf cases' which puts a kibosh on Argentine pretensions, so the UK has already won the issue.
    I wouldn't bandy about the word piracy as the UK has never engaged in it. Whereas, Argentine agents Jewett and Vernet engaged in well documented acts of piracy.

    Jun 01st, 2016 - 10:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • darragh

    Funny really how malsup rants and raves like a fourteen year old - wouldn't be that other adolescent idiot Paul Cedron would it?? - just asking like

    Jun 01st, 2016 - 10:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Voice

                                                     Status quo is not an option...

    If it was...the Falklands would no longer be on the list...
    Can anyone, but me see that simple logic ...huh...huh?

    Jun 01st, 2016 - 11:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islander1

    Actually - who really gives a monkeys arse if we are on some list or not - that belongs to a Committee of 24 - the majority of whom would not even know what democracy and human rights are if they were hit on their arses with them!

    Fact 1: The principle of self-determination- ie what BankiMoon was talking about - people,s freely expressed wishes is enshrined in the UN Charter.

    Fact 2: the Com of 24 has NO legal or international power - it is a talkshop and makes recommendations up to a larger group- the 4th Committee - which tends to treat them with the contempt they deserve.

    Fact 3: the only UN organisation that can issue binding declarations and requests to a country - is the Security Council- it has NEVER done so to the UK re the Falklands. It DID to Argentina over the Falklands in April 1982 - and Argentina ignored it.

    Fact 4: No other nation gives tangeable practical backing to Argentina over their claim - just words.Even Ur with its no FI flags on fishing vessels was carefully worded so same vessels can come into port with the UK or Spanish ensign flying-which they are entitled to use!

    Fact5; the 2013 Referendum in the Islands was observed by politicians from a range of nations NOT involved with the sov issues and all signed the statement that the vote was free and fair 100%.

    Fact 6: The UK does and will continue to defend our right of freedom to choose our own Govt.

    quite a few more but that will do for now.

    Jun 02nd, 2016 - 12:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jo Bloggs

    31

    Poor old Think.

    Jun 02nd, 2016 - 12:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    31 Voice, V0ice, Vestige, Think et al, sock-puppeteer and impersonator extraordinaire
    “Status quo is not an option..” Oh yes it is since there is nothing within the annals of international law stating otherwise. My God how really pathetic you are trying to equate the shenanigans of the special committee with logic. Theres an a classical oxymoron if ever there was one, it can want what ever it wants, but, it doesn't change the legal reality one iota

    Jun 02nd, 2016 - 01:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • brasherboot

    When are the the Argies going to admit they're colonialists??

    Give back Argie land to the natives. Come on UN tell them straight

    Jun 02nd, 2016 - 05:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    Who cares what a bunch of deluded squatters(in Argentina)from Spain & ltaly, think?
    @27 malvinero estupido,
    Go back to sleep.
    We don't give a rat's ass what you want or think.
    Give Paraguay its land back.
    Stolen by Argentina in 1871.

    Jun 02nd, 2016 - 05:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • downunder

    ”The Secretary General added that according to “the Charter of the United Nations and relevant General Assembly resolutions, a full measure of self-government can be achieved through independence, integration or free association with another State. The choice should be the result of the freely expressed will and desire of the peoples of the Non-Self-Governing Territories”.

    It would be hard to find a more decisive affirmation for the rights of the Falkland Islanders to determine their own future. These words are from the leader of the United Nations, the same body that Argentina and its sycophants have consistent misrepresented in support of their bogus sovereignty claim.

    The Secretary Generals words support in full what the Islander's, the British Government and the more erudite posters on this site have been saying for years.
    The fact that some of the usual 'malvinas' suspects have crawled out from under their rocks to continue to try and argue the toss and defend the indefensible is a sad indictment on the nakedness of their cause and of their (lack of) intelligence. They are a bunch of mental pygmies.

    As for Argentina, if it is to recover any semblance of self-respect in the eyes of the world it must change its attitude and behaviour towards the Falkland’s. I am sure that Argentina wouldn’t want to be seen as a bully who is in breach of UN principles.

    Jun 02nd, 2016 - 08:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hіll

    Bonapartism is correctly defined by its flagitious style, structure, and methods, not by its stated or apparent ideological premises or goals, but I won't linger on that. I predict that in the blink of an eye, people will generally agree that it is naive to think that Voice, V0ice, Vestige, Think et al, sock-puppeteer and impersonator extraordinaire wouldn't spawn a society in which those with the most deviant lifestyle, ignominious behavior, or personal failures are given the most by the government if it got the chance. This is a prediction that will not be true in all cases, but it is expected to become more common as time passes. Voice, V0ice, Vestige, Think et al, sock-puppeteer and impersonator extraordinaire doesn't want to acknowledge that the dynamics of the situation are such that those of us whose reason and honor have not been vitiated recognize that its worshippers constitute the only species of animal life that is both mammalian and invertebrate. In fact, Voice, V0ice, Vestige, Think et al, sock-puppeteer and impersonator extraordinaire would rather block all discussion on the subject. I suppose that's because its methods are reliably unreliable. Let me try to explain what I mean by that in a single sentence: If the past is any indication of the future, it will once again attempt to champion censorship in the name of free speech, intolerance in the name of tolerance, and oppression in the name of freedom. Our task, then, does seem to run counter to a deep-seated tendency for human beings to react with fear and even hatred to differences, whether those differences are real, created by Voice, V0ice, Vestige, Think et al, sock-puppeteer and impersonator extraordinaire, or imagined. For those of you who believe as I do, our task is to brush away the cobwebs of nosism.

    Jun 02nd, 2016 - 10:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Voice

    Cut and paste....with the insertion of...Voice, V0ice, Vestige, Think et al, sock-puppeteer and impersonator extraordinaire...
    What a fake....

    Jun 02nd, 2016 - 10:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    38,39 Voice, V0ice, Vestige, Think et al, sock-puppeteer and impersonator extraordinaire
    Confined to to your limited talents of imitation and sock-puppetry since you are unable to refute my post #34.
    “Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery that mediocrity can pay to greatness.”― Oscar Wilde

    Jun 03rd, 2016 - 12:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • BritishAlways

    If the UN is truly about democratic principles, the Fourth Option should simply state that the decision of whatever model is chosen rests with the territory. If territories wish to stay as they are it should be respected. That simple! All this fuss and effort about one word “decolonization” is so senseless – call it Freedom of Choice.

    Jun 03rd, 2016 - 12:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Voice

    40
    If you think it's me copying you...then inform the editor of Mercopress...
    They will tell you that it isn't...
    They would also tell you that I have only one login and that I am neither V0ice, Vestige or Think...
    I have been A_Voice....The Voice and now just Voice....
    Feel free to ask them...
    You are barking up the wrong tree...

    Jun 03rd, 2016 - 04:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Voice

    41 You are barking, you prove it in almost every post. Does your religion include self flagelation, you seem to thrive on getting ridiculed?

    Jun 03rd, 2016 - 07:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @43 The Voice,
    Voice is Think.
    Think is Voice.
    They even use the same expressions.
    Think, trying to kid us that the Scots are oppressed & that they support Argentina's ridiculous “claims” in the South Atlantic as the Scots & Argentines have a common “enemy” & so therefore are friends & allies.
    Don't know about you, but if l were a Scot, l wouldn't want untrustworthy Argentina for a “friend” or “Ally”

    Jun 04th, 2016 - 06:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    @20Sour Grapeserino
    So when are you going to the ICJ?

    @19

    “” It seems that the occupation of the Falkland Islands by his Majesty's ship Clio, is likely to be made a national question by the Republics of South America.
    Buenos Ayres, it is known, has solemnly protested against it.”

    When Vernet was announced as governor by the United Provinces in 1829 and Mestivier's bunch of criminals was despatched to the Falklands in 1832 Great Britain protested.

    You have outlined a counter protest, but how does that take legal priority over the British protests?

    Take that to the ICJ, sonny, but you'll get no further than a Lambourghini Contach in top gear, full revs trying to get out of a bog hole near Tumbledown.

    Jun 04th, 2016 - 08:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Voice

    44
    Huh...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kz7PmfYbioQ

    Jun 04th, 2016 - 09:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @46 Think,
    l like it, what are they advertising?
    You try too hard, Think.

    Jun 04th, 2016 - 11:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hіll

    40 Fake Terry, Troy, V0ice et al, sock-puppeteer and impersonator extraordinaire
    Confined to to your limited talents of imitation and sock-puppetry since you are unable to refute my post #38.

    Jun 04th, 2016 - 11:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Voice

    47
    HaHa...
    Well the obvious....Betting...for England to lose in the Euro 2016..(Football)...
    http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/entertainment/tv-radio/paddy-power-pokes-fun-unofficial-8063113#ZZW8TrREfUAWApKK.97

    Jun 04th, 2016 - 12:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    If Cameron had any balls he would just remove all BOTS and sod the C24
    and the UN.

    Jun 04th, 2016 - 07:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    @50

    Rubbish, what harm does it do to have an ineffectual committee discuss them every year? It's certainly not worth making a fuss over.

    Jun 05th, 2016 - 10:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • McGregor

    @ 44

    MT Tumbledown in 82 tells you all you need to know about the Scots allegiances !

    Jun 05th, 2016 - 07:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    @52

    Judging by all the surnames, there were plenty of Scots in other regiments, and military units all batting against Argentina.

    The Malvinistas don't , and ever will get, that Britain does not equal England only.

    We are greater than the sum of our parts.

    Jun 05th, 2016 - 09:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    Yes, the Scots and the English argue and dispute BUT it is within a family context.
    The bottom line is that we can have a go at each other BUT if any external threat surfaces then we close ranks and face it together. Characters such as Think don't understand this. By his juvenile insulting posts against the “Engrish” he unites us rather than distancing us from them. If it comes to supporting Argentina or England, of course we go with our neighbours and kin.

    Jun 06th, 2016 - 08:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (54) Lowlander Clyde15 says...:
    “Of course we go with our neighbours and kin.”

    I Say...:
    Ya mean..., like the Paddies in the 1916's Easter Rising?

    Jun 06th, 2016 - 11:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • McGregor

    @ 55 Yep

    Eire remained neutral during 2nd world war - which is why thousands of Irishmen joined the British army to fight Adolf. If you look down the lists of those involved in 82 you will also find plenty of Irish names & we could have just as easily sent the Irish Guards to the Falklands. They would have kicked your arse too !

    Just as Clyde said we enjoy having a go at each other right up to the point somebody from outside starts and then.........you know the rest

    Jun 06th, 2016 - 12:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #55
    Twisted auld git says “ like the Paddies in the 1916's Easter Rising?”
    In case you had not realised it, that happened 100 years ago.
    As to the English, Irish, Welsh and Scots - some I will like and others I may dislike. Heaven knows, I may even like some Argentinians but from the evidence of the posters here, that is unlikely if they are ALL of the same ilk.
    I say think doesn't like anyone but himself.
    Typical Argentinian, all past and no future.

    #56
    You are confusing him with facts which at variance with his own twisted opinions.

    Jun 06th, 2016 - 06:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    Squatter Think causing trouble again.
    Must be an Argentine trait(squatting, trouble-making & losing! lol!).
    Get over it Think, you lost.

    Jun 06th, 2016 - 09:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Voice ™

    Mr Think, you should have cited William Wallace, in the end he got stretched to far and ended up gutless.

    Kapiche?

    Jun 06th, 2016 - 10:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • McGregor

    Think is in Norway at the moment, I like to think picking out the finest Norwegian Spruce, to send over to Trafalgar Square.

    You see he loves us really.

    Jun 06th, 2016 - 10:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Voice

    Plenty of help myself to (Xmas time) Norway Spruce here...
    Course I'm not really sure I'm supposed to help myself....
    ...the Commission like to sell it, but I don't like to pay...
    A festive tradition....

    Sorta like the salmon up Glen Massan...
    I'm quite sure I'm supposed to help myself to them as well....
    If a fish is willing to jump into a net without any prompting...
    Who am I to argue...

    Jun 06th, 2016 - 11:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • MALVINERO SUPREMO

    # is OLDE Who cares what a bunch of deluded squatters(in Argentina)from Spain & ltaly, think?
    @27 malvinero estupido,
    Go back to sleep.
    JAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2672079/Falklands-blow-Britain-UN-calls-UK-Argentina-negotiate-solution-200-year-old-feud.html

    Jun 07th, 2016 - 03:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    62 SUPREMO estupido
    An absolute legally 'toothless' sub-sub-committee, devoid of any legal authority making pronouncements that are ultra vires(beyond their powers).
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra_vires

    Jun 07th, 2016 - 06:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Vοice ™

    61 Original Voice
    Do you like my new manifestation?
    I added TM, it stands for Total Moron - that's me!

    I think it suits me. V0ice (with a zero, zero voice) was too close to the bone.
    Total Moron is more apt.

    PS
    MuppetPaster, thank you for the advice on re-branding.

    Jun 07th, 2016 - 08:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • MALVINERO SUPREMО

    I am working too mach too early. I am too tired. It is tough life to be CARTONERO PATRIOTICO
    Look @62 I say

    “@27 malvinero estupido,
    Go back to sleep.”

    27 my own post!!
    JAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJA
    I shit my pants laughing at myself
    I am insulting myself. I look like pirate LOSER

    Jun 07th, 2016 - 08:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Voice

    64
    What do I think...?
    Whilst I'm flattered that so many people feel the need to emulate me...
    The net result of all this copying and multiple logins is a diminished pool of contributors to the forum...
    Whilst you may think that posing as me and others somehow affects the validity of the posts, it only annoys and confuses genuine contributors...
    ...to the point where they consider it not worth the effort...
    Less contributors means less views...less views, means less advertisers...a point will be reached where the site becomes unsustainable...
    That is what I think....

    Jun 07th, 2016 - 11:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    malvinero, please seek help.
    you need your injections desperately.

    Jun 07th, 2016 - 11:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • MuppetPaster

    66
    Ok. I will leave your band of flatterers alone if that is what you think best.

    My tuppence worth: the genuine contributors don't leave only the puppets.

    Jun 07th, 2016 - 12:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Voice

    68
    Oh... it was you, I thought it was V0ice again...
    Was momentarily confused...in that case feel free...
    Only you have the ability to do an exact copy no spaces, I'm not entirely sure how, without hacking the site host (GoDaddy)...or privileged access (Mercopress)

    With great power comes great responsibility....
    Just use it wisely....as everyone thinks I'm talking to myself...

    Jun 07th, 2016 - 01:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • MuppetPaster

    69
    Yes... it was V0ice at 59 and me at 64.
    When a puppet engages in self flagellation it is more likely than not the hand of MuppetPaster at work.

    Self imposed rules of MuppetPasting limit intervention to cases where poster would be banned or demoted on a normal internet forum.

    Jun 07th, 2016 - 01:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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