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“Please don't go”, Der Spiegel's Saturday special German-English edition

Saturday, June 11th 2016 - 05:53 UTC
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German Finance Minister Wolfgang Schaeuble warned Friday that if Britain voted to leave the European Union, it wouldn't have access to the single market like non-members Norway and Switzerland do. Read full article

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  • Skip

    So countries can have either membership or free trade with the EU.

    But the UK can only have membership.

    Jun 11th, 2016 - 06:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    Germany is so worried that the UK if voting to leave would leave a big hole in the finances as the UK is a major contributer in keeping the EU solvent. It would do no harm to the EU if they told the public where all the money is going. The EU has not, as far as I am aware , audited their accounts in all the years that the EU has existed.

    Jun 11th, 2016 - 07:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britworker

    Ok Mr Shaeuble, no trade agreement and you will deny BMW, Audi, Mercedes, Porsche, Volkswagon ability to sell their cars in UK.

    He is behind the curve, most people have realised that threatening Brits is not a productive way forward, you would think the Germans would have learnt that lesson.

    Jun 11th, 2016 - 07:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Englander

    It's becoming increasingly difficult for the Remain campaign.

    Germans making threats was never going to go down well.

    And

    Growing perception amongst UK working class that Cameron's only concern was to protect the City of London and immigration controls were a largely unsuccessful after thought.

    Jun 11th, 2016 - 09:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Voice

    What very traditional close ties to the Netherlands is he talking about...?
    Can't say I've ever heard that...

    Jun 11th, 2016 - 10:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    Well we did help them get independent from Spain in the 16th century!
    Does he mean that? lol.

    Jun 11th, 2016 - 10:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • darragh

    @5

    Could it be because you've never been to the UK nor the Netherlands.

    If you want to see elements of British/Dutch close ties I would recommend travelling to the fens to see traditional Dutch house in a UK setting or you could visit the aptly named port on the Humber called New Holland not to mention the proliferation of Dutch names in parts of East Anglia. I personally know a British family living in Nottinghamshire named DeVoss the oldest son being named Wijk. Although proud of their obvious Dutch heritage they have no idea when their family move to England.

    Here try this It might give you a start:-

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netherlands%E2%80%93United_Kingdom_relations

    Jun 11th, 2016 - 10:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Skip

    Babe, I love you so
    I want you to know
    That I'm gonna miss your love
    The minute you walk out that door

    So please don't go
    Don't go
    Don't go away
    Please don't go
    Don't go
    I'm begging you to stay

    If you leave, at least in my lifetime
    I've had one dream come true
    I was blessed to be loved
    By someone as wonderful as you

    So please don't go
    Don't go
    Don't go away
    Please don't go
    Don't go
    I'm begging you to stay
    Hey, hey, hey

    Yeah

    Babe, I love you so
    I, I want you to know
    That I'm gonna miss your love
    The minute you walk out that door

    So please don't go
    Don't go
    Don't go away
    Hey, hey, hey

    I need your love
    I'm down on my knees
    Beggin' please, please, please
    Don't go
    Don't you hear me, baby?
    Don't leave me now
    Oh, no, no, no, no
    Please don't go
    I want you to know
    That I, I, I love you so

    Please don't leave me, baby
    Please don't go

    With thanks to KC and the Sunshine Band.
    https://youtu.be/w-l5FyA3pgo

    Jun 11th, 2016 - 11:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    It just goes to show the stupidity of various south americans, largely those with basket case economies and societies, that presumably gain some sort of thrill from screeching that Britain is finished.

    The evidence shows that the prospect of Brexit drives Europe and North America into panic. Why would that be if Britain were, in reality, so unimportant? If Hungary was to announce that it was leaving the EU, would anybody really notice? Even the threats from Turkey have not created such a furore.

    The truth is most likely that the British people thought they might give the idea a bit of a try. But forty years has passed. And now we remember the words of Winston Churchill.
    “We see nothing but good and hope in a richer, freer, more contented European commonality. But we have our own dream and our own task. We are with Europe, but not of it. We are linked but not compromised. We are interested and associated but not absorbed.”
    Notice that he made it clear that Britain is NOT part of Europe. We stand outside because our role is in the world. Europe is too small and too petty.

    Now we can see that pettiness in the EU. There is no commonalty. Members fight for their own interests with the two biggest troublemakers of Europe forcing themselves into the “leadership” roles.

    And so we British have had enough. We shall leave and take up our proper role again. Our Type 45 destroyers are better than anything else in the world. The Astute submarines are the same. The Queen Elizabeth class aircraft carriers are just the beginning of the resurgence of British naval might. Type 26 frigates are on the way. In the air, I still believe the F-35B to be a mistake. But it does jibe with the current British concept of “expeditionary” force. On land we still have the unbeaten Challenger 2 main battle tank with an incredible array of light tanks, artillery and other vehicles.

    And the world will be our oyster. We will deal with 178 countries instead of 27. The future is bright.

    Jun 11th, 2016 - 12:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    “Our Type 45 destroyers are better than anything else in the world EXCEPT that the engines are so unreliable that they will all have to be replaced with new models.” The MOD in their penny-pinching way wanted to save money and now it will cost more to put right their blunder.
    Type 26 frigates are on the way. Yes, when the Treasury decide to release the money to start building them....no sign of that as yet.
    Queen Elizabeth carriers.....totally reliant on the F35 being a success. No other alternative if it is not. It can only fly SVOTL aircraft.
    Challenger is in much need of an upgrade to stay at the forefront of combat effectiveness....
    ”British Army boss Gen. Sir Nick Carter, speaking at September's DSEI show, admitted the Challenger 2 is showing its age.

    “We certainly have issues with the tank we have at the moment and we should be in no doubt that if we don’t do something about it some of the obsolescence built into it will be challenging. How we deal with it is still in discussion,” he said.
    At present the new Russian T-14 Armata battle tank outperforms it in all manners.

    Jun 11th, 2016 - 01:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Englander

    Clyde
    Penny pinching MOD?
    Doesn't sound quite right given the amount of taxpayers money they waste.
    The way they conduct their business is an absolute disgrace but no sackings, no resignations.
    The Foreign aid dept is just as bad. Greening is a complete fool unless there is some kind of retirement plan scam going on.

    Jun 11th, 2016 - 03:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    Niemand wird zu verpassen.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUhN8g4ro7Q&list=FLmXPTu1f8AdGlizWNiASx2A&index=3

    Jun 11th, 2016 - 05:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #11
    They try to save money by going for the cheapest option which usually fails and ends up costing us much more to rectify the problem.

    Jun 11th, 2016 - 07:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    @1 I believe his point was that being in the EEA would require Britain to follow the same EU rules for eg free movement which are the main reasons some people want to leave. In fact Switzerland and Norway both have a higher percentage of foreign born population than the UK.

    @9 Who ever said Britain was unimportant? It's the second largest economy in the EU. Besides which people were pretty worried about Greece leaving the Euro and I wouldn't say they were a major player.

    Jun 11th, 2016 - 08:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Voice

    7.....Arragh
    That's all I need...an Irishman that doesn't even live in the UK...trying to tell me about the UK...
    Now there's a Dutchman for you..William of Orange....bet you remember him...
    Your link show's no more ties to the UK than French ties to the UK...
    A few Dutch barns and the odd Dutch name...big deal
    You might want to see how many French names there are....
    If you ever manage to visit Scotland...try looking at the French architecture especially in castles and tower houses...
    Even the name Stuart is spelled two ways...
    The French Stuart...
    ...and the Scots Stewart...
    ...zip it Paddy...you know less than nothing...
    In fact ...any more from you and I'll come looking for you the next time I see a rainbow....and your pot of gold...

    Jun 11th, 2016 - 11:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    Be quiet, Think.

    Jun 12th, 2016 - 08:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • darragh

    @15

    Oooh dear, rattled your cage didn't it Think/Voice.

    Jun 12th, 2016 - 01:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Celidro

    What is Think? Some sort of insult?

    Jun 12th, 2016 - 02:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Englander

    Think massages the penis of Argentine Facist desires.

    Jun 12th, 2016 - 03:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Celidro

    Are you saying poster Voice is a Penis then?

    Jun 12th, 2016 - 04:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • McGregor

    @ 7 Darragh

    http://www.ensignmessage.com/archives/kinsfolk.html

    Who would have thought it ? One to the Irish methinks......... :-)

    Jun 12th, 2016 - 05:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    Oh dear, the remainders are getting REALLY rattled!

    GOOD.

    VOTE LEAVE!

    Jun 12th, 2016 - 07:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    AGREED, VOTE LEAVE

    Jun 12th, 2016 - 09:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Voice

    21
    Is that it for the connections...?
    I think the division and subsequent rule of Britain by the Danish might trump the Dutch for a traditional connection....then the Norman/French invasion and rule of Britain for a few hundred years might trump the Danish connection for a French one...
    In fact there have been more Indian/Pakistani immigrants to the UK than there was ever Dutch....
    Look down the High Street...you may not see a shop trading Clogs, but you will definitely see a tandoori...establishment....
    You are grasping at straws...
    22/23
    You two are pissing in the wind...
    Almost everyone I've been speaking to are voting to remain...
    Folk are not willing to jeopardise financial stability for an ideal and uncertainty....
    Mark my words...you have lost....
    This forum is not representative of the UK general public...in fact only 9% of traffic to this site comes from the UK....
    In fact..I am the only one here that has proved beyond a reasonable doubt...that I am in the UK....

    Jun 12th, 2016 - 10:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    “ I am the only one here that has proved beyond reasonable doubt... that I am in the UK ” Really? And how did you do that?

    Jun 13th, 2016 - 09:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #24
    scottishdiasporatapestry.org/netherlands
    bbc.co.uk/history/scottishhistory/europe/features_europe_lowcountries.shtml://flemish.wp.st-andrews.ac.uk/2013/12/06/crowsteps-in-fife-the-flemish-connection-part-1/
    I am only speaking about Scotland in this context. There was considerable trade
    between Scotland and the “Low Countries” in the 17th century. With many Scots living and working in Holland and attending universities there in preference to France which was a Roman Catholic state.
    The difference between Danish, Norman French and the Dutch was that the first two were invaders, the Dutch were traders.
    As to close relations with the UK, probably because of two world wars and the fact that the Dutch, in recent times, have never been seen as a threat.
    I use the expression“the Low Countries” to cover Flanders and what is now the Netherlands.

    Yes, I have said it before, I have no doubt that you live where you say you do.
    What I don't know is whether you are British or not.

    As for myself, when I joined the Customs and Excise in 1961, I had to prove that my parents and grandparents were born in the UK and not just naturalised citizens. So, I am happy with my credentials.

    Jun 13th, 2016 - 10:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • :o))

    The prospect of remaining - permanently - in a neighbourhood, most of which is barely managing to survive [thanks to the bailouts] and is also corrupt & security-weak; is not so exciting to look forward to.

    Jun 14th, 2016 - 03:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Remain states-
    stay in the EU and save jobs.

    Britain lost its ship building industry while in the EU
    Britain lost its aircraft industry while in the EU
    Britain lost its textile industry while in the EU
    Britain lost its rail rolling stock industry while in the EU
    Britain lost its articulated truck industry while in the EU
    Britain lost most of its car industry while in the EU
    Britain lost its coal industry while in the EU
    Britain lost its steel industry while in the EU

    And these REMAIN pillocks are still saying...

    “Don’t leave! You will risk losing our industries!”

    GET REAL PEOPLE - VOTE LEAVE

    Jun 14th, 2016 - 07:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • McGregor

    @ 27 Add to that the ECB (European Central Bank) has been handing out cheap loans to do it - Cadbury's to shift production to Poland, Ford to shift production of the Transit from Southampton to Turkey (Who are not even in the bloody Union). You couldn't make it up, you really couldn't.

    Ever wonder why we have a trade deficit with the EU ?

    Jun 14th, 2016 - 09:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Voice

    28
    Briton
    I think the loss of those industries might have been the UK's inability to compete in a global market..
    I lost my big toe nail whilst being in the EU...
    I'm sure it had nothing to do with dropping a heavy weight on it...

    Jun 15th, 2016 - 12:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Voice

    Immigrants steal.our jobs, depress wages and occupy too many houses. They overload schools and the NHS. We pay in to the EU where unelected beaurocrats squander our taxes on scroungers. Vote leave..

    Jun 15th, 2016 - 11:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    UK's inability to compete in a global market..

    A good point, The EU also fits that bill,

    Jun 16th, 2016 - 08:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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