Britain’s Caribbean Overseas Territories could suffer significantly if it votes to leave the European Union in the June 23 referendum, according to a report released in London. Read full article
Yet not ONE of our European 'brothers' supported the UK when Argentina illegally invaded the Falkland Islands.
Indeed Brigadier Julian Thompson outlined quite nicely just how little support the UK got, with countries like Belgium refusing to sell ammunition to the UK but still willing to sell to Argentina. Not only EU allies but NATO allies as well.
No, the BOTs will not be safer with Europe. Quite the opposite. When push comes to shove the EU will sacrifice the people's of the British Overseas Territories for their own selfish interests, and not one of the 'decision' makers would be held accountable because of the lack of transparency, democratic institutions or independent oversight that prevent corruption.
This is what the UK wanted to bring to the EU, accountability for it's decisions and it's actions. The EU didn't want that. They were quite happy to spend the EU taxpayers money without any oversight or accountability.
So now the 'insignificant' UK who 'can't possibly survive without the EU' (despite being around for a very long time before the EU existed), is standing on the brink of leaving.
And suddenly the 'insignificant' UK is now apparently threatening world peace, the world economy and the global environment if we leave.
It's amazing just how significant the UK has suddenly become. Perhaps the German people have finally realised that they'll have to cover the shortfall of EU funds to bribe officials of smaller countries if the UK leaves and takes all its money with it.
The MEPS get £250 for just turning up at the venues and expences, where are the official audits for this gravy train? As far as I am aware the EU has never in all the time in existance audited their accounts. That surely must tell you something. We know we get a rebate on the money we send there, but where does the rest go, no-one knows.
The members of UKOTA should ponder how they got on before the UK joined the EU. As an indicator, the Leave campaign has suggested that those in the UK currently in receipt of EU subsidies would continue to receive equivalent amounts. No reason why the OTs shouldn't benefit in the same way.
However, there are other considerations. If the populations of the OTs think that the British people are going to continue to be victimised and dictated to by the EU for their benefit, they can all think again. This may sound harsh, but Britain can do without the OTs. Can the OTs do without Britain? The Falklands taken over by argieland, the southern Caribbean OTs taken over by the likes of Venezuela, the northern ones by the United States.
Britain has championed the cause of self-determination, the United States pays lip service to it and the likes of Venezuela have never heard of it.
And it IS disappointing. Some of these OTs have loudly trumpeted their pride in being associated with Britain. So much for pride. If it happens, the British people will not forget the betrayals by the Falklanders and the Gibraltarians.
Did I miss something when I speed read this but who compiled this report?
Yes, the Gibs are running scared because Gollum has threatened to be 'on the border' the day after the result is posted if the LEAVE camp win.
So what? This garrulous Spanish twat makes threats all the time but what happens? Nothing is the answer and nothing will because Spain has more to lose than Gib.
the biggest danger to all of them are the politicians ,
Do YOU trust your politicians as bad as they are,
or will you put your trust into and onto a government and president that you can neither elect or remove,
How many EU countries came to the rescue of British BOTs
how would come you your rescue,
your choice, your decision.
I will vote leave.
and that's just my opinion.
4 Conqueror
What on earth are you talking about? You don't speak for 'Britain'. You speak for a small part of a part of the British population, which doesn't include most politicians, most academics, most economists, most business leaders, and a large chunk of the general population.
Almost everything I have seen from the leave campaign has been the most revolting racism, xenophobia and hate. It doesn't address any of the concerns I would have about the economy, the environment, the rights of minorities or the disadvantaged. I am not stupid, and I'm not taken in by 'take back control'. To what? Some version of Britain that you think existed in the 1960s, only it didn't.
As for ''If it happens, the British people will not forget the betrayals by the Falklanders and the Gibraltarians.'', are you threatening us? Is this what you do to everyone who thinks differently to you? That actually doesn't surprise me very much. If the vote does go for 'leave' your high- calibre champions Farage and that fluff- headed loon BJ are going to have their hands full averting recession and social meltdown to worry about exacting revenge on the likes of us.
I didn't call anyone racist. Pay attention.
I said that most of the material produced by the leave campaign that I had seen had been racist and xenophobic.
Unite has produced a poster debunking some of the immigration myths, pointing out that immigrants pay 34% more in tax than they take out in benefits and services. I don't want to see Farage's disgusting poster showing queues of dark-skinned men, which is almost identical to Nazi propaganda posters. I want someone to argue the point with something more than 'because immigration'.
Why will waiting until next Thursday help? Whichever way the vote goes, it will all be a moot point by then.
And I didn't say the EU was 'super duper'; I just suggested the Britain was better in than out. You're just as bad as all the rest- incapable of arguing a point without resorting to taunts and jeering. Well fill your boots.
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Disclaimer & comment rulesYet not ONE of our European 'brothers' supported the UK when Argentina illegally invaded the Falkland Islands.
Jun 15th, 2016 - 07:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Indeed Brigadier Julian Thompson outlined quite nicely just how little support the UK got, with countries like Belgium refusing to sell ammunition to the UK but still willing to sell to Argentina. Not only EU allies but NATO allies as well.
No, the BOTs will not be safer with Europe. Quite the opposite. When push comes to shove the EU will sacrifice the people's of the British Overseas Territories for their own selfish interests, and not one of the 'decision' makers would be held accountable because of the lack of transparency, democratic institutions or independent oversight that prevent corruption.
This is what the UK wanted to bring to the EU, accountability for it's decisions and it's actions. The EU didn't want that. They were quite happy to spend the EU taxpayers money without any oversight or accountability.
So now the 'insignificant' UK who 'can't possibly survive without the EU' (despite being around for a very long time before the EU existed), is standing on the brink of leaving.
And suddenly the 'insignificant' UK is now apparently threatening world peace, the world economy and the global environment if we leave.
It's amazing just how significant the UK has suddenly become. Perhaps the German people have finally realised that they'll have to cover the shortfall of EU funds to bribe officials of smaller countries if the UK leaves and takes all its money with it.
If the Leave votes wins then the sun will forever cease to shine on all of Piddlehinton.
Jun 16th, 2016 - 12:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0The MEPS get £250 for just turning up at the venues and expences, where are the official audits for this gravy train? As far as I am aware the EU has never in all the time in existance audited their accounts. That surely must tell you something. We know we get a rebate on the money we send there, but where does the rest go, no-one knows.
Jun 16th, 2016 - 06:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0The members of UKOTA should ponder how they got on before the UK joined the EU. As an indicator, the Leave campaign has suggested that those in the UK currently in receipt of EU subsidies would continue to receive equivalent amounts. No reason why the OTs shouldn't benefit in the same way.
Jun 16th, 2016 - 09:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0However, there are other considerations. If the populations of the OTs think that the British people are going to continue to be victimised and dictated to by the EU for their benefit, they can all think again. This may sound harsh, but Britain can do without the OTs. Can the OTs do without Britain? The Falklands taken over by argieland, the southern Caribbean OTs taken over by the likes of Venezuela, the northern ones by the United States.
Britain has championed the cause of self-determination, the United States pays lip service to it and the likes of Venezuela have never heard of it.
And it IS disappointing. Some of these OTs have loudly trumpeted their pride in being associated with Britain. So much for pride. If it happens, the British people will not forget the betrayals by the Falklanders and the Gibraltarians.
according to a report released in London.
Jun 16th, 2016 - 02:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Did I miss something when I speed read this but who compiled this report?
Yes, the Gibs are running scared because Gollum has threatened to be 'on the border' the day after the result is posted if the LEAVE camp win.
So what? This garrulous Spanish twat makes threats all the time but what happens? Nothing is the answer and nothing will because Spain has more to lose than Gib.
They can all leave, if they don't want us,
Jun 16th, 2016 - 07:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0the biggest danger to all of them are the politicians ,
Do YOU trust your politicians as bad as they are,
or will you put your trust into and onto a government and president that you can neither elect or remove,
How many EU countries came to the rescue of British BOTs
how would come you your rescue,
your choice, your decision.
I will vote leave.
and that's just my opinion.
4 Conqueror
Jun 18th, 2016 - 02:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0What on earth are you talking about? You don't speak for 'Britain'. You speak for a small part of a part of the British population, which doesn't include most politicians, most academics, most economists, most business leaders, and a large chunk of the general population.
Almost everything I have seen from the leave campaign has been the most revolting racism, xenophobia and hate. It doesn't address any of the concerns I would have about the economy, the environment, the rights of minorities or the disadvantaged. I am not stupid, and I'm not taken in by 'take back control'. To what? Some version of Britain that you think existed in the 1960s, only it didn't.
As for ''If it happens, the British people will not forget the betrayals by the Falklanders and the Gibraltarians.'', are you threatening us? Is this what you do to everyone who thinks differently to you? That actually doesn't surprise me very much. If the vote does go for 'leave' your high- calibre champions Farage and that fluff- headed loon BJ are going to have their hands full averting recession and social meltdown to worry about exacting revenge on the likes of us.
racism, xenophobia and hate
Jun 18th, 2016 - 07:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0sorry utter bullshit,
wait till next Thursday and then tell us all how great the super duper EU is,
but until then, do not insult millions of brits by calling them racist,
that's uncalled for.
I didn't call anyone racist. Pay attention.
Jun 18th, 2016 - 09:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I said that most of the material produced by the leave campaign that I had seen had been racist and xenophobic.
Unite has produced a poster debunking some of the immigration myths, pointing out that immigrants pay 34% more in tax than they take out in benefits and services. I don't want to see Farage's disgusting poster showing queues of dark-skinned men, which is almost identical to Nazi propaganda posters. I want someone to argue the point with something more than 'because immigration'.
Why will waiting until next Thursday help? Whichever way the vote goes, it will all be a moot point by then.
And I didn't say the EU was 'super duper'; I just suggested the Britain was better in than out. You're just as bad as all the rest- incapable of arguing a point without resorting to taunts and jeering. Well fill your boots.
Well fill your boots
Jun 18th, 2016 - 10:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0water perhaps,
we all have an opinion,
and next week we will all see what the result is, then one way or another we can move forwards.
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