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Rousseff and Lula will not attend Rio Olympic Games opening
Brazil's suspended president Dilma Rousseff and her predecessor and left-wing ally Lula da Silva will boycott the opening ceremony at the Rio Olympics, officials have said. Their absence at the 5 August ceremony highlights the political crisis in Brazil, with Rousseff facing possible removal from office in an impeachment trial shortly after the Games end. Read full article
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Jul 27th, 2016 - 04:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Failed the drugs test ..... Sadly missed.
Jul 27th, 2016 - 04:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They aint going because they would be heckled, booed, jeered and spat at
Jul 27th, 2016 - 05:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I was hoping she would go because she may well have been shot, just like they do with football referees in SA. :o)
Jul 27th, 2016 - 06:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Brazil's suspended president Dilma Rousseff and her predecessor and left-wing ally Lula da Silva will boycott the opening ceremony at the Rio Olympics....”,
Jul 27th, 2016 - 07:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They will “boycott” the opening ceremony ???......“Boycott” is hardly the right term to use....Long before “they” decided to “boycott” the ceremony, it was made clear to them, by their closest aides, that they would not be welcome and that the public did not want to see their ugly faces....it's a good thing that they got the message, and it's a bit late to claim that it was their initiative to not make an appearance.....
4 ChrisR
Jul 27th, 2016 - 10:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thanks for a further insight into your disturbed thought pattens. Here's some more gems from your past, so we can all bask in the glow of what makes you a truly remarkable
human being.
#1. “extra-judicial killings are necessary when the normal course of the law is ignored”
en.mercopress.com/2012/11/26/sao-paulo-city-gripped-in-a-civil-war-between-organized-crime-and-the-police-says-top-judge
#14. “Are you allowed to shoot the perp as he is running away, ”
en.mercopress.com/2014/05/17/brazilian-police-tells-tourists-that-if-attacked-don-t-fight-scream-or-argue
#20 “If it were my decision, ALL drug dealers after one PROVED conviction would be shot by the police if they were caught with dealing quantities again. And I mean right there and then wherever they are. END OF” en.mercopress.com/2013/12/14/pot-fumes-mujica-calls-un-official-liar-after-he-accused-uruguay-of-pirate-attitudes
#8 ”Unless you want to see my razor sharp bi-angled three-quarter scale Sheffield hi-carbon steel Bowie knife up close (and dangerous) that is.”
http://en.mercopress.com/2015/09/19/falklands-thank-you-to-the-people-of-uruguay-for-being-so-warm-welcoming-and-supportive
I don't think Dilma was invited.
Jul 28th, 2016 - 12:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0@ 6 Little Hillock
Jul 28th, 2016 - 11:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0Try writing in English, it's patterns you dick and try formatting your drivel correctly.
# 1: Absolutely correct which is why France is in the crapper with handling teenage Islamist killers, but just wait and see what happens soon.
# 14 Have no idea what you 'claim'.
# 20 I think the new President of the Philippines must have the same thought! Under his dictate the Police have killed over 300 known drug dealers who were still selling drugs on the street since July 1st (the day the new President took over). This has resulted in 6,000 drug dealers handing themselves into the Police so they can be jailed instead of being killed. Looks like a win so far.
# 8 That was a JOKE. But I will make an exception in your case if you wish.
You really are a whiny arsehole, aren't you?
8 Tweedledee
Jul 28th, 2016 - 01:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thanks for further more insights from your modest biography killer “When I Rule the World.” I'll restate my former claim of E&OE. Actually, the error is more apt considering your view of yourself in the scheme of things. “A shoe or clog with a raised sole or set on an iron ring, worn to raise one's feet above wet or muddy ground when walking outdoors.” Perhaps not, as your exalted persona doesn't even touch the ground when you walk.
@8 ChrisR
Jul 28th, 2016 - 04:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You cant' win against him - he will insist on his point of view (which to him is tantamount to irrefutable 'proof') until he is blue in the face - but nor can you lose - his arguments are based on the usual liberal, politically correct bs which he subscribes to , which means nothing other than a smoke screen to hide the inconvenient truth.
Oh! This is wonderful two egotistical reactionaries, Tweedledum and Tweedledee caught on the same line. Must be so satisfying to be that stupid to actually think your opinion matters. Or that any rational person would tolerate any attempt by you to apply your intolerant bigotry.
Jul 28th, 2016 - 05:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@8 ChrisR
Jul 28th, 2016 - 05:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The twit took the bait - hook, line and sinker ; looks like the hat fit.
If our opinions didn't matter, why would anyone bother contesting them ?
@ 12 Jack Bauer
Jul 28th, 2016 - 07:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are correct but it gets boring.
gordo1 and sibling gordo01 plus girlfriend The Kracken have similar egos to Little Hillock and cannot help having a puerile go at me: lies and contrived statements I have supposedly made must make them so pleased with themselves.
gordo(1 / 01) is so stupid that when I posted it was too boring and I would not post to him again he 'claims he has 'beaten me', go figure?
Anyway I take it you will be visiting the games then? :o)
@13 ChrisR
Jul 28th, 2016 - 09:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Visit Rio to see the Games ? not likely....don't feel like getting mugged, or worse, hit by a stray bullet. The place is not safe unless you drive around in an armoured car. I used to visit Rio 2 or 3 times a month for meetings etc, but never really liked it - always having to look over your shoulder ; Several recent infrastructure projects have taken place in the downtown and port areas, which have improved them greatly, but basically, the beauty of Rio is restricted to the beaches of Copacabana, Ipanema and Leblon - the rest of it is not worth the bother. That's why I'll watch the games from the comfort of my home
13 Tweedledee
Jul 28th, 2016 - 10:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Cannot help having a puerile go at me: lies and contrived statements I have supposedly made” Well if what I posted wasn't true then it would have been kid's play to show what otherwise is stated on the threads in question. Since you're unable too, means, it is true and that you are further condemned as a liar.
@13 ChrisR
Jul 29th, 2016 - 07:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Doesn't it remind you of a parrot ?....slow at learning and then always repeats the same thing ?
“Ad hominem is an argument of the weak and insecure.” Maleiha Bajunaid Candao
Jul 29th, 2016 - 09:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“When cowardly individuals are not able to attack the message, they attack the messenger.” Abderrahman Hassi
““Whenever a man does a thoroughly stupid thing, it is always from the noblest motives.”
Jul 30th, 2016 - 01:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0-- O. W.
”Sometimes a man wants to be stupid if it lets him do a thing his cleverness forbids.”
--J.S.
@ 18 Marti Llazo
Jul 30th, 2016 - 11:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0That second quote is so true about Little Hillock! :o)
I was going to compete i the 100m sprint final but I have also boycotted the Olympics, following on of course from my notorious refusal to date Taylor Swift.
Jul 30th, 2016 - 05:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 019 Tweedledum
Jul 30th, 2016 - 05:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Mediocrity bears but one flower ENVY.anon
“Strong and bitter words indicate a weak cause.” Hugo, Victor
“We must make a personal attack when there is no argumentative basis for our speech.” Cicero, Pro Flacco, c.58. B.C
You need to go back to your bedroom and replace those missing white sheets.
When the message is a load of BS, so is the messenger .....inevitable in this case, to attack both, as they are the one and same thing ...
Jul 30th, 2016 - 05:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 022 Jack Bauer
Jul 30th, 2016 - 06:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Still scarred from your last exposé where your real political views where 'outed', and your credibility, or lack there of, was given a thorough airing. You didn't fair too well now did you.
@23 Just look at the name @22. Then look at the guy obsessed with guns. It is a match.
Jul 30th, 2016 - 06:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@24 Elaine
Jul 30th, 2016 - 11:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Until now, I thought you were a 'relatively' normal person. Your support of the supercilious Terry who loves to claim he is the sole owner of the truth , doesn't do you any credit. But as they say, 'birds of a feather flock together'...
As to names, while Jack Bauer is by no means exclusive of the character of '24 hours' , what about Terence Hill ? that's the artistic name of Italian actor Mario Giuseppe Girotti......so what's your point , smarty pants ?
@23 THill
“scarred” ? “exposé” , “outed” ? big words for small mind.
25 Jack Bauer
Jul 31st, 2016 - 02:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0So Mario Giuseppe pulled my name from my resumé left with Bob Altman, so I'm the real McCoy. whereas your opinions are as phoney as your pseudonym.
I'm supercilious, wrong buddy, you've just been hit by your own well deserved sense of inferiority, thats oozed up to the surface again.
@25 ”Relatively' normal? Who else in this thread do you think is 'relatively' normal?
Jul 31st, 2016 - 10:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0@ 25 Jack Bauer
Jul 31st, 2016 - 10:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Kracken used to be 'normal' but over the last two years has showed symptoms of NPD (Narcissistic personality disorder) hence the screaming fits of piss-dribbling pervert, dementia getting worse, etc. whilst portraying herself as somehow 'standing up to me' and other nonsense. Weird.
This from a female (certainly NOT a woman) who knows what is in her 'mind' despite not ever having either the experience or the sense to discover the truth of the matter in discussion.
I used to think it was the onset of the menopause but her claim she is too young (starts in early 40's nowadays) leaves no other non-terminal disease option other than NPD.
You are now the second GUY (she seemingly detests all men) she has claimed as a clone of me, so welcome to the club.
She can only focus on the bad aspects of firearms and has no understanding of the number of lives saved by their use or the millions of users world-wide who have please using them in complete and utter safety.
Still, 'she knows what she knows'! So there!
If I may interject, what the F*** has this got to do with the subject of Dilma & Rousseff.
Jul 31st, 2016 - 11:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0From post 8 et seq it seems to be a juvenile squabble about personalities.
COOL IT.
@29 It is relentless, ChrisR's obsession with me. I would be more than happy to discuss the topics but I need to respond to @28.
Jul 31st, 2016 - 11:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0@28 You are sick, sick, sick. You are obsessed with me. You are obsessed with people being shot. You are a pervert. Your language is foul. Your mind is a sewer. Your misogyny ever-present. Your obsession with buggery is strange. Most of all your obsession with me is beyond the boundary of anything like normal. Why are you so interested in me and my personal life? This is a message board of strangers; get some perspective.
Please, everyone, do you think ChrisR displays normal behaviour when he told me to commit suicide? Would any of you ever say that to anyone?
@ 29 Clyde15
Jul 31st, 2016 - 01:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Post 8 is a valid reply, but never mind, you obviously have not seen the Philippines new approach to drugs.
@ 30 The Kracken
Grow up and stop telling lies.
Better still go back to America, I bet they love your approach, especially Clinton.
@31 I am not lying. You told me to go and commit suicide. It was here for everyone to see. Why are you denying it? Are you now ashamed of telling someone you don't know to commit suicide?
Jul 31st, 2016 - 01:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 6 Little Hillock
Jul 31st, 2016 - 04:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Try writing in English, it's patterns you dick and try formatting your drivel correctly.
That is a valid reply.....well, you really think so ?
@ 32 The Kracken
Jul 31st, 2016 - 06:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Grow up and stop telling lies.”
It's a generic statement, you do it on =every post to me. Ignore my post and twatter on about dementia, which I do not have and hope to avoid for the foreseeable future.
Not denying anything as long as it is the truth, I think I actually said: do us all a favour and commit suicide. So again you have obfuscated reality.
Have you ever watched the film 'Mash'?
@34 Are you ashamed of telling me to commit suicide? You should be. it shows everyone your true character.
Jul 31st, 2016 - 06:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 35 The Kracken
Aug 01st, 2016 - 11:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0No I am not because I knew you would not do it/
My true character, as far as you are concerned, is what you think it is in that narcissistic mind of yours. That will never change no matter what I say because you always say I am lying. but we all know who lies and it's not me.
You need a good memory for trivia if you lie I learnt that when I was very young, so the answer is easy: YOU should try it.
@ 33 Clyde15
Sorry, wrong number, it's eight! :0(
@36 You have no remorse for telling me to commit suicide. That is a damning statement about you. You know nothing about me, or anyone else on here unless you have met them in real life.
Aug 01st, 2016 - 12:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You need to get a hobby or some meaning to your life to stop you obsessing about me all the time. Whatever anger and bitterness you are carrying should not be aimed at me because you don't know me.
Unlike you I don't put details of my loved ones online (out of respect to them) nor do I give away information regarding my work because it would be inappropriate to do so given the sensitive nature. I don't need to prove anything to an online community. So the fictitious hate figure you have concocted around me is made up of your own deep-rooted prejudices and issues with women. It has nothing to do with me it reflects your twisted mind.
You really need to find someone younger to explain the culture of the internet to you. You have it way out of proportion and seem to feel you need to be validated by a message board. Seriously, get some perspective. Nothing here is real. Get some help with your issues. You can't 'win' online. You cannot gain the respect you crave. No one cares. It is just a message board. Anyone can be anything here and it is dangerous to reveal so much about yourself.
People will judge you on your words and you post vulgar and nasty comments. That makes you appear vulgar and nasty.
SInce you are still calling me silly names I will include the fact that you told me to commit suicide in every single one of my posts until you stop it. You can be embarrassed in front of all the readers in every thread or stop acting like a child.
@ 37 The Kracken
Aug 01st, 2016 - 05:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Whatever I do will not stop you calling me a liar, piss dribbling whatever, etc, etc, everytime you disagree with me will it?
It's down to you, YOU are the one who 'stands up' against men.
In the meantime meet your sister (I was going to say brother, but that's a male so out of bounds):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HGMxZEl60k
You do realize that some people think the tags are comical and in your case, truthful, don't you?
@38 ChrisR - THE OLD PERVERT WHO TOLD ME TO COMMIT SUICIDE. (Do you find that funny?)
Aug 01st, 2016 - 07:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You keep bringing up the piss-dribbling - did I hit a nerve? If you can remember I was educating you on the symptoms of the male menopause since this is something you are fascinated by. I have never come across anyone so obsessed with the menopause. Why is that? You do know it make you seem like a weirdo.
I don't click links posted by people on this website. You know this. Tell me, how long did you spend trawling the internet looking for something offensive to post to me? Well, it was a waste of time and, let's face it, you don't have the time to waste. Go and do something useful so your life won't be completely wasted. 70 years wasted. Make the last couple count for something.
@26 T.Hill
Aug 01st, 2016 - 09:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0so you think you are the real McCoy, do you ? Just proves what a twit you are, deluded by dreams of your own grandeur.
But as you love quotes so much, here's one, that fits you like a glove ..:
“If at first you don't succeed, failure might be your style”. “Quentin Crisp, 1999”.
@27 ElaineB
As I said, “Until now, I thought you were a 'relatively' normal person” ........meaning, I thought you WERE 'relatively' normal (past tense), but think that you no longer ARE (present tense)...
I'm not going to waste my time listing the names of those that I DO think are 'relatively' normal, it's quicker to mention those that I think are NOT : generally speaking, the Argies trolls that defend the K's, the Brasshole and his gang, Hippy, Reekie, Supercilious Terry, and now yourself ; you all fit in to a category of individuals, not very bright, that can be labeled as 'weird', to say the least.
I'm pretty sure that Terry , your latest buddy , will get sweaty under the collar when he reads this, and will demand that I present the “burden of proof”....or, will undergo great stress in trying not to.....or still, will throw a ton of quotes at me - which are supposedly meant to “put me in my place” ; unfortunately, he still hasn't learned the difference between an opinion and proof, and I don't think he ever will....just my humble 'opinion'.
As to guns, I'm not obsessed with them - but like most normal people, I can sure appreciate their value in certain situations.
@28 ChrisR
Sometimes it just isn't worthwhile trying to educate idiots or to try to show them that they are not too well informed....too bad.
The problem with the stupid liberals, is that to them, anyone who doesn't share their views, is either a fascist (as I've been called a few times by the Hillock, or the mound of cowcake) .....or, if that doesn't stick, a racist (just waiting for him to accuse me of that too...).
@40 I don't have 'buddies' on here. I have never met anyone posting on this site and wouldn't call anyone I had not met in real life a friend. Get some perspective. I care not if people agree or disagree with me. It is the abusive and offensive attacks I stand up to.
Aug 01st, 2016 - 09:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0ChrisR THE PERVERT WHO TOLD ME TO COMMIT SUICIDE and you make a lovely couple by his definition. He thinks that if you agree with someone on line you are couple so unless you are interested in hooking up with him you should let him down gently.
40 Jack Bauer
Aug 01st, 2016 - 10:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“So you think you are the real McCoy” Since I am relying only on known fact, it is so, as my passports verify. “Wrong opinions…gradually yield to fact…the proof of the fact depends on their evidence” ON LIBERTY by John Stuart Mill (1859)
I'll leave you to delusions of grandeur, as such thoughts place their reliance only on opinion. Which is your forte, while I will continue place mine,on facts or the opinions of experts.
41 ElaineB “You make a lovely couple by his definition..” Hence, Tweedledum and Tweedledee
@41 ElaineB
Aug 01st, 2016 - 11:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Call the idiotic THill whatever you want, but you deserve each other.
If you claim you wouldn't call anyone you hadn't met in real life, a friend, and knowing the chances of ChrisR and I knowing each other are nihil, you are being quite childish when you insinuate that ChrisR and I would make a “lovely couple” - your immaturity came through with a vengeance when you allowed the crap that flows through your tiny brain, to presume whatever you wanted to, just because ChrisR “welcomed me to the club” - the fact that what he and I have in common is being disliked you you , is a compliment......
You are the one who started slinging crap in your # 24... so please do tell me where you saw an abusive and offensive attack on you, that you felt you had to “stand up to”.
Perhaps you should take take a good look at yourself before accusing others.
@43 No, you misunderstand. You are actually calling ChrisR childish. It is HE who calls anyone who agrees with me, my boyfriend. So by HIS definition, he would consider YOU his boyfriend. Now do you understand? I agree it is infantile but so is ChrisR's name calling. He has the mental age of an eight-year-old. Maybe you should try reading the actual content of my post before jumping to the wrong conclusion.
Aug 02nd, 2016 - 07:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0What is your problem with THill? I have not defended him. I might have agreed with him on some point but that is how grown ups debate. It is not 'With us or against us”. Now who is being childish? Take a look at yourself.
@ 43 Jack Bauer
Aug 02nd, 2016 - 10:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0Oh dear, YOU are 'standing up' to The Kracken! How DARE you!
Have you noticed how soon she reverts to insults and SHE is SO successful! I cannot imagine what she is successful at other than being a rabid feminist, the ones that real women laugh at.
And never forget how childish we are at the side of her massive intellect, though I have yet to see any of it in the last three years or so. Still, I am sure we will both lie awake at night over her, NOT. :o)
@ 44 The Kracken
Have you thought how foolish you look to everyone on here with this “ChrisR THE PERVERT WHO TOLD ME TO COMMIT SUICIDE ” statement?
They know the basis it was made on, grow up and deal with reality for once. Is this how you relate to your customers when you are all 'debating' the woes of the world?
In all my years in industry and running my own businesses I have never come across such a weird female. You should go back home and kick your mother up the backside for turning you out this way.
@45 Chris R THE OLD PERVERT WHO TOLD ME TO COMMIT SUICIDE.
Aug 02nd, 2016 - 11:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0If you want to see childish - read your post. You told me to commit suicide because you lost your temper again. With someone on the internet. On a message board.
Why do you go on and on about how successful you think I am. Is this the real reason for your unfathomable animosity towards me? You mention it all the time. And why are you so obsessed with my profession? You will never know or guess. It is way beyond your comprehension.
In all your years as a lorry driver the only experience you seem to have acquired is the vulgar language you picked up in the transport cafes and an acute case of misogyny.
Just a thought, if someone tells you to “drop dead” do they really mean it literally? Although in Lula's and Dilma's case that would not actually be so bad.....
Aug 02nd, 2016 - 12:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@47 It is a huge difference between saying 'drop dead' and telling someone 'why don't you do us all a favour and commit suicide'. Especially when the person saying that has displayed a real hatred towards me in the past. A hatred that goes beyond normal behaviour. A hatred that led him to try to track me down in real life. (Unsuccessfully) A hatred that leads him to constantly throw personal insults at me in threads where I am not even posting. A hatred that makes him make constant personal attacks to the extent that I had no option but to defend myself. When that didn't stop his obsession I went on the attack to expose him for what he is.
Aug 02nd, 2016 - 01:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0ChrisR is bordering on the insane in his actions (see above). That he is not very intelligent and consumed by envy for the life he thinks I lead (he has not a clue). And attempts to insult in the most vulgar way possible (displaying his real character). And when losing an argument with me tells me to kill myself shows just how unhinged and nasty he is. He knows nothing about my life, personal life or profession but his obsession has led him to weave an entirely fictitious world for me in order to maintain his level of hatred.
Clearly, you and 'Jack Bauer' pity him and think he is not strong enough to debate with me without assistance. I suggest you look at his posting history with me and see who actually started this shit.
@48 Obviously your skin may need to get a bit thicker to deal with an open chat area such as this. If you give a bit of lip, then you should probably expect to get back a bit of lip. You'll survive. Why is everyone so namby pamby these days.
Aug 02nd, 2016 - 03:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@49 Oh, he can't hurt me but all the time he is focused on me it stops him picking on someone weaker than him and probably diverting a few slaps for his wife.
Aug 02nd, 2016 - 03:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It is interesting that you whole-heatedly support ChrisR's behaviour without criticism. Have you seen his ranting on other current threads? The man is insane. Fortunately no longer dangerous as they took his guns away from him.
@44 ElaineB
Aug 02nd, 2016 - 04:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No ElaineB, I haven't misunderstood anything. The only person I'm saying is childish, is you - based on your silly remark (as per #41) “...and you make a lovely couple 'by his definition' ”......your strange, if not sick logic, has led you to a non-sensical conclusion, typical of an immature kid.
“What is your problem with THill?”
It's not really a problem, it's just that he amuses me with his absurd demands for 'proof' of one's opinion, as if an opinion cannot exist without proof ; same thing with his blind defence of Lula and Dilma, his stupid, politically correct, liberal stance, due to his obviously left-wing sources, despite the fact he has no first hand experience of Brazil - maybe he should be Lula's lawyer ; his supercilious manner , trying to sound superior ; his refusal to answer a few , totally impersonal questions - which I suspect, that if he did, and honestly, it would blow a hole in his cover . At times , after reading some of his posts, I stop and wonder “ who ties his shoelaces for him ”?
@ 50 The Kracken
Aug 02nd, 2016 - 05:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“and probably diverting a few slaps for his wife”
Well. that is a mature feminine way of looking at things, isn't it?
I have never 'slapped' my wife except in play and she always liked them, but that was behind closed doors.
Do you not realize that your incessant ranting is frankly getting boring: you are no longer interesting to read and should consider moving to another comments board. Perhaps one of The 'Hills 'on message' ones would suit you and you wouldn't have to commit suicide to leave the rest of us in peace.
But no, your ego couldn't stand the ignominy of it, could it?
@51 Ah, so you completely support and justify the childish name-calling and behaviour of ChrisR but when I respond using HIS logic - you would call it ChrisR's sick logic - you decide to reprimand me about it. Interesting. I think that is a bit strange.
Aug 02nd, 2016 - 05:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“his cover” do you think he is working undercover? You say you don't have a problem with THill? I think from that post that you do. And add to that you took against me because I once agreed with something he said. That is a tad intolerant don't you think?
I guess you would agree with me totally that ChrisR calling Gordo my 'boyfriend' is both childish and sick?
51 Jack Bauer
Aug 02nd, 2016 - 05:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“It would blow a hole in his cover”. What cover, have you seen anyone about your paranoid delusions? ”After reading some of his posts, I stop and wonder who ties his shoelaces for him “ I imagine anyone like yourself, with your revealed limitations. Would have great difficulty in comprehending anything that is based on logic.
@ 51 Jack Bauer
Aug 02nd, 2016 - 06:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I sometimes wonder how Little Hillock has got the brain power to keep breathing. :o)
55 Tweedledee
Aug 02nd, 2016 - 06:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh! I see you're suffering from the same delusion as Tweedledum. That's why both speak out of the same asshole.
@52 ChrisR THE OLD PERVERT WHO TOLD ME TO COMMIT SUICIDE
Aug 02nd, 2016 - 06:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“you are no longer interesting to read and should consider moving to another comments board.”
Hahahaha. Because you say so, impotent old fool. You have no authority here …..or anywhere.
@51 ElaineB
Aug 02nd, 2016 - 10:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There you go again jumping to conclusions. I don't always agree with ChrisR, but I don't think he's out to “get” anyone, something you obviously, have taken too seriously.....get over it.
And if you don't like him because he calls a spade a spade, it's not surpising, given that you appear to be a liberal.
You shouldn't feel 'reprimanded' by me, as quite frankly, I couldn't care less what you think.
Regarding Terence, NO, of course he isn't working 'undercover'...he doesn't have the brains for it.
I see that you bear a grudge against me because some time in the past - a few months ago ? - I said something to which you took offence ... Well, I've forgotten all about it and moved on ...maybe you should too. Further, I don't think that anything that is said here is worth losing sleep over....discussions can be heated, plain stupid , and even entertaining, but not everyone reacts in the same way. You ask me if I'm intolerant .....I don't think so , but I don't think I need to convince you, or anyone else, of that .
As to ChrisR's calling you Gordo's boyfriend, it is obvious he's taking the piss out of you, and if you weren't susch a stiff you'd realize that.
Now getting back to Terry....Have you noticed how he believes he is “always” right ? take a look at his #8 of the thread “Lula appeals to the UN”, where he boldly states ” “….But what is blazingly obvious is that there is no belief by his legal team, that justice has been done so far, in regard to him”, without the slightest basis other than his opinion, which he regards as proof. If he knew anything at all about the person that Lula is, he would know that despite the fact Lula knows he is up shit creek without a paddle, he will never admit it, as it would be tantamount to self-destructing. He and his lawyers will keep on fighting to the end, denying everything, even after he's behind bars. What else do you expect him and his lawyers to do ?
@58
Aug 02nd, 2016 - 11:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“you appear to be a liberal. ”
I have no idea what your definition of a liberal is. How can you possibly know what I am?
“I couldn't care less what you think”
You care enough to intervene on ChrisR's behalf and write extensive posts to me defending him.
“I see that you bear a grudge against me because some time in the past - a few months ago ? - I said something to which you took offence ”
What on earth are you talking about? I had no previous opinion about you.
“As to ChrisR's calling you Gordo's boyfriend, it is obvious he's taking the piss out of you, and if you weren't susch a stiff you'd realize that.”
No, he isn't. He is a seriously sick old man. Clearly you haven't seen half the disgusting things he has written about me.
“Now getting back to Terry”
No thanks. I don't have an interest in your feud with him.
ChrisR does not call a 'spade a spade' he expresses revolting and offensive views, using vulgar language. He makes personal attacks on anyone who disagrees with him. He is mentally unstable. But if you truly believe in people freely expressing their views why are you attempting to stop me?
@59
Aug 03rd, 2016 - 12:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0“I have no idea what your definition of a liberal is. How can you possibly know what I am?”
Well, I guess I'll have waste a few seconds on you : it can depend on where you are, but usually it means you believe in socialism as cure to all evils - at least while the other's money doesn't run out ; it means you are a populist who claims to be acting in the 'people's“ best interests - as if they are all idiots and can't decide for themselves - when your main objective is to manipulate them, guarantee your votes and make yourself rich, at their expense; it means you use political correctness to disguise the ugly truth....there are a few other characteristics, but I think you get the idea.
I wrote “I see that you bear a grudge against me because some time in the past - a few months ago ? - I said something to which you took offence ”
Your reply : ”What on earth are you talking about? I had no previous opinion about you.“...
Well then, take a look at your # 53 :
”And add to that you took against me because I once agreed with something he said. That is a tad intolerant don't you think?“
Having a struggle with Alzheimer's ?
Well I can't tell you how to react to ChrisR's 'attacks'....that's your problem.
As for Terry,,, I agree with you...he's not worth the bother.
How can you say that I am attempting to ”stop” you ? you must be paranoid. Just because I don't see eye-to-eye with you, does not mean I'm trying to stop ou. You can carry on with whatever you believe in. Makes no difference to me.
@60 By your definition, no, I am not a liberal.
Aug 03rd, 2016 - 01:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0I don't hold any grudges against you. I don't recall you writing anything significant or memorable before this thread.
Please, don't waste anymore of your time writing to me defending ChrisR.
58 Jack Bauer
Aug 03rd, 2016 - 01:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0“There is no belief by his legal team, that justice has been done so far, in regard to him”, without the slightest basis other than his opinion”
Sure it's an opinion founded solely on their acts. Remember the old adage “actions speak louder than words”. It's called deductive logic you moron.
@ 61 ElaineB
Aug 03rd, 2016 - 11:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0The most offensive 'view' I have seen on here was one made by you in defence of the sexual abuse of young children by the RCC employees AKA the men in dresses.
Just because they are not ALL at it you claimed it was only a minority: as usual you were wrong and had not thought through your despicable comment.
Whatever you imagine I think of you and I have no real idea because of all the silly ways you express it, it is nothing compared to what I now think of you following the despicable claim you made.
You are becoming more unstable and fixated on 'getting me back' that you are rapidly being seen as a pathetic figure.
@63 You are rambling again.
Aug 03rd, 2016 - 11:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0Anyone and everyone can read the posts I made on that thread and absolutely nowhere have I defended the sexual abuse of children. NOWHERE. You making that claim, when everyone can see exactly what I have written, just further proves you are crazy.
What I did do was condemn it and point out that it is far more wide spread than you think.
I ask everyone to read the thread - I am copying it in full to hold for the future - and you will see ChrisR is lying. It is there in black and white.
@ 64 ElaineB
Aug 03rd, 2016 - 12:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think we all know who lies on here and it's not me.
@65 You have foolishly proved it in black and white that you are a liar. You have done in front of everyone. And I shall ensure that everyone sees what you are.
Aug 03rd, 2016 - 01:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@63 ChrisR
Aug 03rd, 2016 - 02:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You say “The most offensive 'view' I have seen on here was one made by you in defence of the sexual abuse of young children by the RCC employees AKA the men in dresses.”
YOU ARE A LIAR - ELAINEB HAS NEVER SAID THIS!
@61
Aug 03rd, 2016 - 05:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well , if you aren't a liberal, good for you.
Also, it's such a relief to know you don't hold a grudge against me ; even if it's only because you've got a weak memory.
And likewise, don't waste anymore of your time writing to me defending Tinker Bell....
@62
You really got your knickers in a twist this time, didn't you, you old fart ? No use trying to get the toothpaste back into the tube..
Your latest pearl of wisdom, “Sure it's an opinion founded solely on their acts”, is just the conclusion YOU arrived at, based on YOUR interpretation of their acts.....or their allegation that ”they don't believe that justice has been done so far, in regard to him” (the toad).
Others may have different opinions on why they said that ...perhaps because it's a lawyers duty to stand up for his client ? perhaps because when a lawyer sees that his client is about to get screwed, it's normal to change tack , denying all charges, and claiming his client is being treated unfairly ?
That line of defence has been used repeatedly by most of the Lava-Jato defendants, and it's just a ploy to try to delay things. The fact that most are already serving prison terms, just shows what a great defence it has turned out to be.
The fact remains that you know f*ck-all about their plans on how to defend the toad, however, that didn't prevent arrogant little Terry from telling us that if the lawyers said it, it must be “blazingly obvious”.....really ?
@ 66 and @ 67
Aug 03rd, 2016 - 05:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0ElaineB stated that the number of RCC priests committing these vile acts was minimal / small (I cannot remember the exact phrase).
I pointed out to her that ANY number was too many and also pointed out that she check the numbers because they are huge if you include all the states of America.
So you think defending the indefensible is NOT condoning this abuse?
What planet are you two on?
I would have thought that as a 'feminist' she would have at least kept her mouth shut and not jumped in to support your crap about the RCC 'not being the only religion doing this, as if that makes it right and show me where these religions are apart from Islam.
Grow up the pair of you!
68 Jack Bauer
Aug 03rd, 2016 - 06:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“When a lawyer sees that his client is about to get screwed, its normal to change tack.” Thank you for in part laying out the classic alternative to defending a client. Which is when a defence isn't possible, the next option is to 'cop-a-plea'. Not file a 39-page petition with the U.N. Human Rights Committee.
“It's just a ploy to try to delay things” in your opinion. Whereas the petition is a fact which speaks volumes louder than any of your unsupported guesses.
“So how can you tell fact from opinion, especially when so many people are offering their opinions as fact?
The simple answer is that facts are quantifiable. They can be measured. Opinions are not. You cannot measure taste, for instance. Therefore, taste is an opinion. You can measure nutritional value. Therefore, that is a fact.”
http://www.holygrailpress.com/english/id144.html
@69
Aug 03rd, 2016 - 07:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0”ElaineB stated that the number of RCC priests committing these vile acts was minimal / small (I cannot remember the exact phrase).“
No I didn't. I didn't say anything like that at all. I didn't even mention Priests.
”I pointed out to her that ANY number was too many and also pointed out that she check the numbers because they are huge if you include all the states of America.“
No, you didn't say that to me. You did make a rambling general statement but not saying that.
”So you think defending the indefensible is NOT condoning this abuse?“
I didn't defend it, I condemned it as abominable.
”What planet are you two on?
Earth but I can't say the same for you.
“I would have thought that as a 'feminist' she would have at least kept her mouth shut and not jumped in to support your crap about the RCC 'not being the only religion doing this, as if that makes it right and show me where these religions are apart from Islam.”
What has feminism got to do with this discussion? I made a very easy-for-you-to-understand statement about the wide-spread child abuse in many different institutions. I explained why paedophiles seek to join institutions where they have access to children. I was condemning the practice and explaining it is more wide spread that your narrow-mind can comprehend. Because to assume it only happens within one institution is to ignore that is is happening elsewhere.
ChrisR, I am genuinely concerned for you. Go and read the thread again and you will see you are entirely wrong in your recollection of what I said in my posts.
@70 T.Hill
Aug 03rd, 2016 - 07:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Thank you for in part laying out the classic alternative to defending a client.”
Well, you finally woke up and realized that Lula's lawyers actions were to be expected and in reality he is not being treated unfairly.....
Nothing was “blazingly obvious”, other than your profound arrogance and love for Lula and the PT.
The fact that the petition has 39 pages, means absolutely nothing.....if it did, then they should have submitted a 1000 page petition. I have made no guesses, unsupported or not......it is you that sucked up the lawyers' claims that Lula was being shafted, and immediately rushed to his defence.
Funny that now you acknowledge the existence of something called an opinion, and as far as facts being quantifiable, I suppose some can - on a scale of stupid, from zero to ten, ten being the most stupid, you are definitely a ten.
The 2nd half of your message is just a load of unintelligible mumbo-jumbo, bla-bla-bla...
72 Jack Bauer
Aug 03rd, 2016 - 11:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'll say again I have no particular political attachments. The only two things I abhor is intolerance and cowardly bullies. In short order, you repressed such behaviour in my presence or there was going to be a serious falling out.
“The fact that the petition has 39 pages, means absolutely nothing” In your unsupported ex-shipping clerks opinion, that really means nothing.
“It is you that sucked up the lawyers' claims that Lula was being shafted” Since that was also my opinion, it was no surprise at all. Particularly, given the decisions of Judge Moro
which appear more political than judical. Which is why the supreme court found he was not following the rule of law, hence their subsequent reversal. Moreover, it goes to bias when he was leaking privileged information to the media.
Your so bereft of a valid argument that you spent the rest of post engaging in your old ”Argumentum ad Hominem (abusive and circumstantial): the fallacy of attacking the character or circumstances of an individual who is advancing a statement or an argument instead of trying to disprove the truth of the statement or the soundness of the argument.
philosophy.lander.edu/logic/person.html
“Strong and bitter words indicate a weak cause.” Hugo, Victor
@73 T.Hill
Aug 04th, 2016 - 05:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“I'll say again I have no particular political attachments.”
Hard to believe given the way you defend the lefties.
“The only two things I abhor is intolerance and cowardly bullies.”
Looks like you must have been bullied as a kid....well, get over it.
““The fact that the petition has 39 pages, means absolutely nothing” In your unsupported ex-shipping clerks opinion, that really means nothing.”
So you still think that the size of a petition is what gives it credibility ??
Anyway, the petition submitted by Lula (to the UN), says nothing different to what we are already tired of hearing…it will get him nowhere.
““It is you that sucked up the lawyers' claims that Lula was being shafted” Since that was also my opinion, it was no surprise at all. Particularly, given the decisions of Judge Moro ”
Of course that was your 'opinion'.....based on what Lula's lawyers claimed...what did you expect them to claim ? but you fell for their bs.
As to Judge Moro, he has followed the Law, no more, no less. The problem with the once powerful businessmen (including PB directors) and politicians that are being tried and jailed, is that they are not used to swift, efficient Justice, and never in their wildest dreams expected to be caught. Especially after acting like this for decades, with total impunity. Of course now they're going to be all pissed-off.
The Supreme court has reversed only one or two of Moro’s dozens of decisions, which implies they agree with him 99% of the time. As to the phone taps, he only leaked them to the press because he had sound information that Dilma was planning to appoint Lula as Cabinet Minister, and then to work together to try to extinguish the Lava-Jato investigation. Regardless, the STF sent the case back to Moro, allowing him to use the taps should they be relevant to the case. Remember : Lula was the one being tapped, not Dilma, so any info collected was not privileged.
Wake up, numbnuts..
74 Jack Baue “Looks like you must have been bullied as a kid….”
Aug 04th, 2016 - 07:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Not at all as little kid I punched the lights out a gang leader called Pie-face who was three-years older. I was carried around the school on the kids shoulders. To be honest, I was a new kid and didn't know him from Adam. All I knew was he was picking a fight with me, I don't recall any fear, only a sense of aggrievement.
Every time I moved school, the first day somebody picked a fight. When I won they didn't bother me after that. I never picked fight unless I saw someone bullying a smaller kid.
“Of course that was your 'opinion'.....based on what Lula's lawyers claimed.” Other than what I have read on this thread, I have no idea what his lawyers have claimed.
“As to Judge Moro, he has followed the Law, no more, no less. ” If that was true why did the supreme court censor him for authorizing Lula's detainment?
“And then to work together to try to extinguish the Lava-Jato investigation.” If this was true you would have included a link.
“So any info collected was not privileged.” It was because the good judge has now damaged his claim to impartiality. As he has laid himself open to claim that his partiality is damaged by his trying the case in the press. This is a paramount issue, as I don't know of any common-law jurisdiction that would allow a judge to continue under such circumstances.
@75 T.Hill
Aug 05th, 2016 - 05:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Not at all as little kid I punched the lights out a gang leader called Pie-face who was three-years older.”
Well Terry, you must be so proud...seems that little “success” story went to your head...and remains there until today.
““Of course that was your 'opinion'.....based on what Lula's lawyers claimed.” Other than what I have read on this thread, I have no idea what his lawyers have claimed.”
So, by admitting now, that “you have no idea what Lula's lawyers have claimed, other than what you've read on this thread”, it is clear that when you rushed to support their claims, to the point of stating it was “'blazingly obvious” he was being shafted, you were just spouting hot air...
Regarding Moro, Lula had already been summoned by him once before, and had made no bones about it, fully expecting it to the first and last time ; but a few weeks later, he learnt that he would be summoned a second time, and during a meeting held behind closed doors, to discuss the summons with his advisors, one of his staunch allies, Jandira Feghali (a declared communist) posted a short video defending him ; you can see Lula in the background, and can clearly hear him say ”eles que enfiem esse 'prothetho' (processo) no cú, eu não vou”...that's what prompted Moro to send the Federal Police to fetch him.
After the outcry, one of the PT appointed judges in the STF, decided to censor Moro, but it had no practical effect. Amongst other things, the proof that Dilma , and Lula, intended to carry on obstructing the Lava-Jato investigation from behind the scenes, became public and obvious when the PT's top Senator and Lula ally (Delcidio), confessed that it was Lula who had instructed him to try to silence Cerveró (PB director who was negotiating a plea bargain); Maybe you should watch more of the political news programmes and read the OESP...... Clearly you need to catch up , that's all stale news by now.
76 Jack Bauer
Aug 05th, 2016 - 07:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Well Terry, you must be so proud” Not at all, you were the one that raised the issue. I can't help it that you don't like the answer.
“You were just spouting hot air…” Not at all, I had independently recognized an 'abuse of process' that was obvious. Regardless, you have judge who's impartiality has been revealed. Which goes to the core of fundamental justice that is accepted in all jurisdictions. 'Not only must Justice be done; it must also be seen to be done'. ”It is famous for its precedence in establishing the principle that the mere appearance of bias is sufficient to overturn a judicial decision. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R_v_Sussex_Justices,_ex_p_McCarthy
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