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Falklands air links and oil talks between UK and Argentina confirmed by Malcorra
Foreign minister Susana Malcorra confirmed on Wednesday that Argentina and the United Kingdom are holding talks, “moving to a more productive phase” which includes making progress towards new “air links between the Falkland Islands and third countries” plus the removal of “restrictive hydrocarbons measures”. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesThis letter is actually a threat. In other words, unless Argentina is willing to back off on flights to Uruguay and Chile, and pack in breaking international trade rules over the oil issue, the UK will veto Malcorra's bid to be Secretary General.
Aug 11th, 2016 - 05:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0How much are you prepared to pay Argentina?
Roger, we can live by not having Malcorra as Secretary General. Second, by UN rules UK should not steal the oil in our sovereign waters, what is correct, and legal, is to await the resolution of the conflict before destroying a limited resource.
Aug 11th, 2016 - 07:11 am - Link - Report abuse -1The backing off seems ridicolous, but it seems my dumb government will implement it... Falklanders steal our fish, want to steal our oil, invite foreign powers to steal fish too, probe our oceans for oil... And how does our new government react? “The brits are our friends”
(Insert facepalm here)
@2 “..by UN rules UK should not steal the oil in our sovereign waters......Falklanders steal our fish, want to steal our oil” Are you trying to make out the UN 'rules' state they are Argentinian sovereign waters. Have they really said they are your waters. If they have then what are we arguing about, case closed....but...
Aug 11th, 2016 - 08:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0Resolutions are non binding, so is it really 'illegal' to carry on a unilateral exploration within the EEZ of a NSGT by it's people......well 1514 says this...'Affirming that peoples may, for their own ends, freely dispose of their natural wealth and resources without prejudice to any obligations arising out of international economic co-operation, based upon the principle of mutual benefit, and international law.....hmmm, so are the Falklands a NSGT or not, seems they are listed as one of the 17 on the UN website.
@2. What “oil in our sovereign waters” is the UK “stealing”? You are aware that the Falkland Islands, South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands were specifically EXCLUDED from the UN statement on argieland's attempt to “claim” half the South Atlantic, aren't you? You are also aware, I'm sure, that those three BRITISH island groups have the same rights to the same extent of territorial waters, contiguous zonal waters and exclusive economic zonal waters as argieland. By the way, fish have been known to do a couple of things like swimming and moving. I wonder if argieland approaches fishing in the same way as spain? Spain now has virtually no fish stocks of its own in commercially viable quantities. A true testament to spanish greed! Incidentally, there are also such things as international waters. Falklanders have every right to fish there if they wish.
Aug 11th, 2016 - 08:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0@2 “..by UN rules UK should not steal the oil in our sovereign waters......Falklanders steal our fish, want to steal our oil”
Aug 11th, 2016 - 09:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0Not a legal leg to stand on. Limp: https://www.academia.edu/10574593/Falklands_Islands_Territorial_Waters
As long as Argentina continues to claim the islands, Britain should not have anything to do with them,
Aug 11th, 2016 - 09:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0all future trade or contact should be on condition that Argentina acknowledges the Falkland's right to exist and drop its false claim,
just my humble opinion.
#2
Aug 11th, 2016 - 09:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0Only one thing wrong in your posting viz. they are NOT Argentina's fish, it is NOT Argentina's oil. They are ALL in the Falkland's waters and economic zone.
Just because YOU say that they all belong to Argentina does not make it true.
You have been peddling the same bunch of lies for decades.
@2 LukeDig,
Aug 11th, 2016 - 10:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0You need to stop lying Lukeyboy.
As Clyde says, the fish & the oil are NOT yours.
And we don't want your dilapidated aircraft cluttering up our air & land spaces.
So, get lost LukeDig & Argentina.
And shut the gate on the way out.
@8 He has probably been told since birth that falsehood. We know about the indoctrination.
Aug 11th, 2016 - 10:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0I prefer the post @1, it makes more sense if only for the reality that any bilateral talks without the FIG by anybody now in the UK Government is a waste of time.
Aug 11th, 2016 - 11:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Malevolent Midget Malcorra has her own agenda of course, outside that of The Dark Country: she desperately wants the UN job. That isn't going to happen either.
I note the visit of the Liberturd to scouse headquarters was a 'success'!
Depends on your definition of success, it's still floating so the scousers couldn't have robbed the bung out of the bottom. :o)
Good to see matters moving forward.
Aug 11th, 2016 - 11:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0There will be the usual moaners in Argentina but they have had things their way for far too long.
If they can't be reconciled.....ignore them and forget them.
More evidence of Mrs May's intelligent and pragmatic forward thinking.
Common sense from a UK PM? Takes me back to to the 80's.
@1 I hope Mrs May is not so wet as Cameron, and this letter seems to indicate that she isn't. She knows that the UK has more to offer Argentina than Argentina has to the UK.
Aug 11th, 2016 - 11:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0@2Lukedig
“UN rules UK should not steal the oil in our sovereign waters, ”
@3 James Marshall
”well 1514 says this...'Affirming that peoples may, for their own ends, freely dispose of their natural wealth and resources without prejudice to any obligations arising out of international economic co-operation, based upon the principle of mutual benefit, and international law..
1514 IS a UN rule, Lukedig, what part of that do you not understand?
Also if the UK are, as you say breaking UN rules and stealing Argentine resources, is it a fact that the UN recognises Argentine Sovereignty over the Falklands, because the last time I looked, they hadn't?
The Falkland Islands are not Argentinian.
1/- The history going back TO (not 1833) BUT 1690, does not support Argentina's claim.
2/-The UN supports the Falkland Islander's right to self determination.
3/-If Argentina could prove the above wrong they would have been at the ICJ years ago.
If Argentina claims the Falklands, prove it at the ICJ or cease your bullshit.
“UK should not steal the oil in our sovereign waters, ”
The UK are not running the oil operations. The Falkland. Island. Government. does. Not the UK. the Fishing zone and oil exploration around the Falkland Islands are nothing to do with the UK government.
No wonder your country is in such a bad state when you are in constant denial and cannot face or recognise basic facts.
#2“by UN rules UK should not steal the oil in our sovereign waters, what is correct, and legal, is to await the resolution of the conflict before destroying a limited resource.”
Aug 11th, 2016 - 11:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0Written with such conviction and, superficially, that sounds so sensible and of course it must be correct since the “UN Rules” have been invoked.
Shame it all crap!
Do I misunderstand this but when TM says 'third countries in the region' doesn't she mean anybody but Argentina? and by 'the removal of restrictive hydrocarbons measures' she surely means the daft Argentine laws about suing Oil Company execs.
Aug 11th, 2016 - 03:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Other than that this letter is just a polite reply to Argentina trying to get the UK on side for the UN Sec Gen job.
@2 'by UN rules'
What 'rules' would they be exactly?
LukeDig...... aaah Argentinean education strikes again!
Aug 11th, 2016 - 04:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 15 Skip
Aug 11th, 2016 - 06:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Great to see you back, hope you had a good time.
What's this about China threatening war with Australia or is it somebody having a bad joke?
Perhaps China overestimates herself, and underestimates the west,
Aug 11th, 2016 - 07:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and Australia,
TM is very wise, one hopes, to stall this deal with china over the
nuclear re-actor,
the world it seems is getting worse, rather that better,
just saying like.
Thanks Chris
Aug 11th, 2016 - 11:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Moved to Montréal and living on campus. Uni starts soon and it's Pride Week so loving it.
I'm on a similar timezone but this site rates pretty low these days. Too many sockpuppets and poorly educated trolls.
Anyway, yeah China, which has produced the nation with the world's largest number of inferiority complexes, has taken deep and utterly delightful offence at one of our swimmers highlighting that their favourite swimmer is a drug cheat.... who lost to him!
China is furious. Which really doesn't matter. China isn't as powerful as its deluded online citizens think it is.
What sock puppets...?
Aug 12th, 2016 - 12:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0Nice to see Skip the student of Urban Architecture turning up out of the blue...
and erm...James Marshall the Architect, also out of the blue...
Welcome back ...mate...
Urban Design, you dimwit!
Aug 12th, 2016 - 03:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0Designing what...
Aug 12th, 2016 - 08:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0...er....is it buildings...within an urban environment...?
They can label the course however they wish, but...
Like I said...student of Urban Architecture....
...D'oh...
Oh Voice, ever heard of coincidence. summer holidays you know, kids to entertain, work, nice Portuguese sun and beaches etc etc and not a lot happening re the Islands over the last few months to comment on.
Aug 12th, 2016 - 10:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0I know who I am Voice, and so do you, losing a £1000 bet obviously wasn't enough (still haven't paid up yet though Voice, backfired on you there didn't it, that some people tell the truth). Yet, you still insist on your childish and under achieving behaviour.
By the way Urban Design/planning is not Architecture, different discipline I am
afraid. Urban Designers would be the Conductor in the Orchestra, bringing all the individual elements (that make our cities and towns: Landscape, Architecture, Transport, Street Scape, Environment, Public Space etc) together, to form a coherent and legible sense of space, thus becoming a 'Place'.
Normally, people learn not to argue with those who are intellectually and technically better educated in a particular subject, it just makes them look a fool. .
Thankfully you never learn Voice, so we get the chance to make you look a fool 'ad infinitum'
So where has Think been, one could suggest the same of you Voice, both of you leaving few messages over the summer, so do we assume Think and Voice are one.....
I hope your mate Think had a nice time in the 'Big Apple', same old result I see, nada.
l think we all know by now that :-
Aug 12th, 2016 - 11:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0Think=Voice
Voice=Think.
22
Aug 12th, 2016 - 01:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Coincidence...???? What do you mean?
Oh...you mean the student of Architecture and the supposed Architect both appearing at the same time with no posts in between...
huh...I never thought anything of it...
who would...?
Sooo...
What you are saying is that Skip has never ever stated that he has been studying Architecture...in his course...?
...ergo a student of Architecture...
ps...I lost nothing...because you proved nothing, all you did was select a name from the internet that suited your puppet and used it....
How is that proof...?
pps ...are you paraphrasing quotes on text book Urban Design....;-))))))
Calling it urban architecture only shows up you. Not me, Voice.
Aug 12th, 2016 - 03:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I didn't realise I had to continue posting to be considered valid. But creating a sock puppet who is similar to me and then posting at the same time...... you're a fucking idiot sometimes Voice.
I was going to major in ARCHITECTURE in my first year but didn't stick with it. No secret. No change of story. A fact for several years now. You've never once tripped me up on anything I've said I am.
Not once.
I am not a “student of architecture”. That is false. You know it too.
Pathetic.
architecture
ˈɑːkɪtɛktʃə/
noun
the art or practice of designing and constructing buildings.
I must say I'm surprised that I'll be designing and constructing buildingd.
However, me 3 years ago unsure which major to do:
http://en.mercopress.com/2013/05/04/uruguay-admits-trade-and-economic-relations-with-argentina-couldn-t-be-worse#comment245003
Me still unsure:
http://en.mercopress.com/2013/05/04/uruguay-admits-trade-and-economic-relations-with-argentina-couldn-t-be-worse#comment245003
And here I am clearly telling you what I am studying:
http://en.mercopress.com/2013/05/04/uruguay-admits-trade-and-economic-relations-with-argentina-couldn-t-be-worse#comment245003
Pretty much always replying to your accusations.
I didn't accuse anyone of anything but Voice jumped down my throat nonetheless. Here's an interesting post regarding Think's sockpuppets (don't expect the same reaction though):
http://en.mercopress.com/2013/05/04/uruguay-admits-trade-and-economic-relations-with-argentina-couldn-t-be-worse#comment245003
You don't change Voice!
@25 You don't have to justify anything to anyone on here. You don't have to prove anything either.
Aug 12th, 2016 - 03:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I know. But there is a certain joy in it sometimes.
Aug 12th, 2016 - 03:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0My weakness. I know.
The post will probably be removed anyway.
Sooo....Skip...you were studying Architecture in the first year...obviously if you were originally going to major in it...
Aug 12th, 2016 - 05:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Studying....so a student...
Architecture did you say...?
A Student of Architecture...would that have been a fair description....;-))))))
Such a forgiving language English....
So that was the great Surfer outage/outing... was it, that has been referred to many times...
Before my time....but it looked like someone was having a spoof...
I've been spoofed many times....but you are right, I never change and so easily identifiable...by the content...
I haven't accused anyone of anything...
I'm sure the First Year Student of Architecture...
and the Architect James Marshall just appeared by accident...
One was busy travelling and perhaps didn't have access to the internet and the other needed holidays to be able to use the Internet...
Sounds plausible to me...honestly guv....
26
That post wasn't really for Skip... was it....
Am I studying architecture now?
Aug 12th, 2016 - 05:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Didn't think so.
Piss poor and weak as usual.
@27 I can't imagine why your post would be removed.
Aug 12th, 2016 - 06:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Don't you find it creepy when other posters start poking around in your private life?
You do make him look like an idiot so enjoy it.
You were...
Aug 12th, 2016 - 06:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Therefore that means you were a....
Student of....
wait for it...
Architecture....
Want to dispute it...?
The guy was a serial killer...
He got jailed...and so no longer kills...
So we must never refer to him as a serial killer....
Not weak... strong in the force, I am...
Meanwhile
Aug 12th, 2016 - 06:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina and the United Kingdom are holding talks,
So Argentina says,
We hear that TM has told Argentina to grow up and stop all the harassment of the islanders,
so number ten says.
Indeed.
Aug 12th, 2016 - 10:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@32
Aug 12th, 2016 - 11:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0She most likely told Malcorra to grow a pair.
England will return the Malvinas within 25 years.
Aug 13th, 2016 - 12:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ha, Ha, selected a name, with a consistent back story, that just happens to match (coincidently) with posts I issued using 'Buzzsaw' username before I decided to call you out. Gosh, I must be good to find a person who not only has matching qualifications, work on the same projects (find the posts with 'pottyboy' going on about Architecture and the Pritzker prize from a year or two ago), etc,etc but also moved to Portugal from the UK, now that is coincidence.
Aug 13th, 2016 - 08:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0You have never caught me out Voice, because I do not lie. Like I said, I have many faults but being wrong isn't one of them.
PS I think you will find those words have been used thousands of times to describe the built environment and its disciplines, just paraphrasing the many people who have used those words in presentations, articles, books and lectures by others and myself included. But then you should know these things, didn't you pretend you worked for an Architect once too...some GIS work or other wasn't it.
Now back to the topic, Argentina need to get better translators and understand british wording and diplomacy.
This may help.
http://9gag.com/gag/aLKD3Ox/what-the-british-say-vs-what-the-british-mean-vs-what-foreigners-understand
35 Hepatia (#)
Aug 13th, 2016 - 11:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0England will return the Malvinas within 25 years
Very clever, now define England
Define Malvinas, and 25 years.
#37
Aug 13th, 2016 - 12:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Don't make it too hard for her, she is not good at sums!
You may be right,
Aug 13th, 2016 - 06:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0she is having trouble working out who she is...lol
Hepatia is a butthurt RG, unconvincingly masquerading as an American.
Aug 13th, 2016 - 09:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Maybe even different authors, from an Argentine govt department, posting under the same name.
With the same agenda.
By making anti-British remarks he/she/it/they keep trying to get us to get angry with Americans & make nasty remarks against them.
Divide & conquer.
Also, l believe this 25year thing is automatically generated by a computer.
Just trying to be an irritant.
l've decided not to respond to the 25year nonsense.
I
40 Isolde
Aug 13th, 2016 - 11:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Agreed! That pretty well sums it up.
@35
Aug 15th, 2016 - 11:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0Please change the record, the needle's stuck again. You're boring.
Americans shun Trump and campaign to install Britain’s QUEEN as head of state
Aug 15th, 2016 - 07:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0AMERICANS appalled by the prospect of Donald Trump becoming president are calling on the Queen to take back the former British colony
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/699829/Americans-campaign-Britain-Queen-Elizabeth-II-head-state-Donald-Trump
nice and light hearted.
@42 Pete. I dont understand it was 25 years last year, and the year before that? And perhaps the year before that too.???
Aug 15th, 2016 - 07:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 035 Hepatia
Aug 16th, 2016 - 03:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Is caught in a time warp.
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