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More French towns adopt Burkinis' ban; clashes in Corsican beaches
A French court has rejected a demand by a group of French Muslims in Cannes to overturn a ban on full-body, head-covering swimwear on city beaches. A lawyer for the Collective Against Islamophobia in France said after the decision Saturday by a court in nearby Nice that he would lodge an appeal with the Council of State, the highest administrative body in France. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesFrance preaches liberty and then legislates on what people can wear on a beach.
Aug 16th, 2016 - 09:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0This ban will not defeat Islamic terrorism, it just makes the French appear unable to make any concrete steps in that direction while taking their “revenge” on Muslim women.
They need to start banging their fist on the table at the security council, not this nonsense.
@ 1
Aug 16th, 2016 - 11:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0You seem to have overlooked the real reasons governments do this: tan attempt to salve the terror being experienced by French people who, you have to admit, have had a fair amount of terror lately.
The real problem is the interpretation of the Quran by 'Clerics' seemingly hell bent on converting as many kefirs as they can to their pre-medieval so called religion before they kill the remainder of us.
“the French appear unable to make any concrete steps in that direction while taking their “revenge” on Muslim women.”
So what would YOU do to prevent males dressing as females before murdering innocents?
Oddly enough they aren't even Burkhas as you can still see the face. Are you claiming there has been a swathe of men dressed as women whipping out their AK47s?
Aug 16th, 2016 - 12:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's an imagined problem. All men need to do is ride a bike and wear a helmet to disguise themselves.
I don't want women wearing burkhas but there's plenty of other stuff I don't want either but would be ridiculous to ban outright. eg football, federalism & flat packed furniture.
The covering of one's body is not a requirement of Islam, it is simply an exercise of cultural preference.
Aug 16th, 2016 - 12:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Terence Hill @4
Aug 16th, 2016 - 01:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Or fear !
Nothing new under the sun...
Aug 16th, 2016 - 03:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Didn't little Britain try to forbid Siks to wear their turbans in the sixties?
@1 I agree.
Aug 16th, 2016 - 03:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@6
Aug 16th, 2016 - 03:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0a) No.
b) It's not the 1960s any more.
TWIMC
Aug 16th, 2016 - 04:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Wonder if them wise European town mayors will forbid neoprene wetsuits too...
http://s1.ibtimes.com/sites/www.ibtimes.com/files/styles/embed/public/2016/08/15/burkini.jpg
http://s1.ibtimes.com/sites/www.ibtimes.com/files/styles/embed/public/2016/08/15/burkini.jpg
@ 3 Idlehands
Aug 16th, 2016 - 04:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“I don't want women wearing burkhas but there's plenty of other stuff I don't want either but would be ridiculous to ban outright. eg football, federalism & flat packed furniture.”
Now you are definitely going too far: FLAT PACKED FURNITURE!
:o)
I agree with Idlehands, legislating what people can wear on the beach is regressive. I can understand banning the full face veil as it hides your identity, but the burkini doesn't do that.
Aug 16th, 2016 - 05:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@Think
No it didn't; in fact Sikhs even have an exemption from the law requiring motorcyclists to wear a helmet.
And no they won't be banning wetsuits, the point is to ban the display of religious symbols, not directly to stop swimmers covering their bodies.
Uninformed turnip at (11)
Aug 16th, 2016 - 05:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So,little Britain didn't try to forbid Sikhs to wear turban, huhhh?
I suppose that the BBC lied to all of us in 1969 then?
And that Mr. Sohan Singh Jolly didn't ever exist?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/april/9/newsid_2523000/2523691.stm
What a Turnip!
@12
Aug 16th, 2016 - 06:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Lol, seriously, is that it?
Britain (sic) didn't forbid anybody anything. One bus company rescinded a ban on turbans “in the interests of race relations”, when “most other English bus companies at the time already permitted Sikhs to wear turbans and beards. ”
and
“ Mr Jolly's actions did not receive whole-hearted support from all of Britain's estimated 130,000 Sikhs.
Dr A K S Aujila of the Supreme Council of Sikhs in the UK said: ”We are going to wage relentless war on the idea that individuals can take this sort of action involving the whole community and very likely lead to a worsening of community harmony in Britain“.
Pretty small potatoes for an alleged government instigated racial dis-turban-ce.
Meanwhile, in the Argentine omnibus community:
”The film, based on the actual events recorded in history as the “Night of the pencils” (La noche de los lápices), tells the story of seven students who, after protesting for lower bus fares in the city of La Plata, were abducted in September 1976, during Argentina's last dictatorship (1976 - 1983), and subsequently disappeared. Only one student survived to tell what happened.”
Burkinis' ban; clashes in Corsica,
Aug 16th, 2016 - 06:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0why is Britain being brought up,
the article is Corsica,
but as some argies seem to delight bringing the British into everything,
do the Argentine people object to them,
will Argentina Bann them,
will Argentina allow women only beaches , women only days at the pool,
just asking,
@12 Mr Turnip
Aug 16th, 2016 - 07:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Wolverhampton Transport Committee != Britain
A ban on turbans in one company's dress code != a general ban on turbans
Please try harder.
Great article from a couple of years ago:
Aug 16th, 2016 - 11:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.theaustralian.com.au/life/weekend-australian-magazine/between-two-worlds/story-e6frg8h6-1226617453922#
Integration takes time. However some countries do it better than others I think. As to how.... not enough time or space here.
However read the article it is interesting.
Good for France.
Aug 17th, 2016 - 11:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0There's already legislation all around, guess what, we live with it. I have to get my car safety tested soon. I don't want to, but that's the law all these people around me made. So I do.
What you can buy, when you must retire, how many parties must bid, where raw materials must not come from, when cars must be serviced, how wide sidewalks must be. Fences with anti-climb-paint warnings for the burglars safety, lest he ...or she, sorry, equality.... sue you. And now burkinis.
If you want the benefits of a civilized society you have to tolerate such annoying little technicalities unfortunately.
If you don't, there are countries with alternative government models to go live in. Where you can wear burkinis, mutilate burglars and legally beat your wife.
Where cars don't need safety tests, so it seems I have an option, the freedom is mine.
Too often I've seen the bs argument of 'hey maaan, if they can do this theyll outlaw drum circles too. First they came for the marijuana, next they'll come for bongos'.
Well let's see if the people really do start arbitrarily banning random things, or whether they only go after the serious, the troublesome, and that which is unfavorable to the wider public.
@ 16 Skip
Aug 17th, 2016 - 01:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I read the article. Just as I expected: Bradford all over again in that the Muslim elders could not see how frustrated their 'children' are to be told who to marry and what to do because they had been exposed to freedom, at least for a while.
Holland is of course doomed to be taken over by radical Muslims in the next few years for the simple reason the 'leaders' encourage 'the faithful' to have as many children as possible so this damnable medieval curse can break the vote barrier.
Last time I was in Australia there was hell to pay over a white woman who had taken to Islam and was a rabid nutter to say the least and would not broach any form of 'negotiation' with the whites. She was in the papers and on TV and I just couldn't believe it.
Seeing that Australia is still in one piece perhaps she saw sense after all.
Chris
Aug 17th, 2016 - 06:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I don't think Muslims are going to take over any more than any other religion can take over. Islam is a religion and not one monolithic nationality.
Muslims only make up about 5% of the Dutch population so unsure how they could “break the vote barrier”. Even Amsterdam is only 17% Muslim so still not close.
One of the first wave of Muslim immigrants to Australia were Afghani more than a century ago using camel transport across the desert. It is why you will meet many Muslim Aborigines these days. The second wave were Lebanese in the 70s. Then came the South East Asians and now the North Africans.
They all take time to integrate. It's always the second generation born that you look at and believe me they aren't much different from any other Aussies. Unlike the UK we don't have one dominant religion and unlike France with a dominant religion, our government doesn't blind itself to differences and problems of non-dominant religions.
Australians show a drop in religion with each new generation and that includes Muslims. Netherlands shows the same.
France is so loathe to discuss or monitor religion at the state level that it has no policy leavers to help integrate Muslims.
This does not work. The French approach to integration is failing and blaming Islam ignores the power the state has on this matter.
While Australia has 500,000 Muslims, it is Hinduism that is the fastest growing population.
Islam is the current bogeyman. Every generation has one.
@ 19 Skip
Aug 18th, 2016 - 12:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I cannot imagine in my wildest dreams Australia being overtaken by Islam or any other wacko 'religion'.
That article does show however the schisms that a free society such as Oz imposes on a closed one like Islam leading to intense pressures between the generations. That alone is likely to be the downfall of Islam.
It seems that the early predictions by the Dutch 'Islamic' leader about breeding like rabbits hasn't worked as well as he wanted but isn't it still the case that the indigenous peoples of Europe have falling fertility rates whilst those of immigrant Muslims remains 'high'? That seems to be the case in the UK as well.
The problem with Islamic terrorists is they are few in numbers but very effective in causing public panic and after France, who can blame those who panic?
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