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French ruling suspends “burkini” swimsuit ban in the Riviera resorts

Saturday, August 27th 2016 - 04:26 UTC
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Mayors of French towns who banned the controversial “burkini” swimsuit have been warned they must heed a court ruling suspending the action. Human rights lawyer Patrice Spinosi said if any mayors did not comply, he would take each case to court but at least three mayors have said they will keep the bans on their beaches. Read full article

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  • ChrisR

    Now we will see whether the PC brigade, the Feminist movement (who ridiculously WANT women in these barbaric outfits) and the other loony's get their way.

    It is France, so anything can happen.

    Aug 27th, 2016 - 12:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    They are ugly, ridiculous and and defeats the purpose of swimming. However, who the fuck wants the government telling anyone who can wear what? Smart move to overrule the ban.

    Aug 27th, 2016 - 02:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    Can we ban saggy old men in speedos?

    Aug 27th, 2016 - 04:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 3 ElaineB

    Oh NO!, you haven't fallen out with your sugar day AGAIN, have you?

    You are SO funny.

    @ 2 Captain Poppy.

    You might want to consider WHY Muslim women HAVE to wear these outfits.

    It's their 'men' suppressing the female figure so they are not tempted to rape complete strangers. Some of the indoctrinated wretches would still wear them anyway but the younger females want nothing to do with it.

    They want to be more western but risk being murdered if they try to break away. Britain has gone through a number of these cases so far this year.

    Aug 27th, 2016 - 05:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @4 I am not sure what a sugar day is but clearly your carer needs to restrict your intake as you are over-exited again.

    Aug 27th, 2016 - 06:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 5

    To clarify it without the typo, as you 'couldn't' understand it:

    Oh NO!, you haven't fallen out with your OLD sugar daddy AGAIN, have you?

    Thank you for the chance to clarify it for you.

    Aug 27th, 2016 - 06:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @6 It was just a joke, ChrisR. Calm down and wipe the drool off your chin.

    Aug 27th, 2016 - 06:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    I understand what it represents Chris......I've seen my share closer than I care to remember. I still do not want my government imposing on religious rituals and customs, nor telling me or anyone what and what not to wear. First burkas, then veils, then jeans........next we all look like North Koreans with the same 1973 gray leisure suits with bowl head haircuts.

    Aug 27th, 2016 - 10:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Klingon

    What did they expect when they let these muslims in in the first place. Give it another 5 years it will be like Somalia.
    Thanks PC leftists for screwing up Europe!

    Aug 27th, 2016 - 10:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Voice

    Ban any woman over a size 12 from wearing black leggings...without some form of covering...
    Tip...black does not make you look slimmer...trust me on this...
    ...and where do old men get trousers that appear to come up to their chest...it's a mystery I've never solved...
    Perhaps I will in the future....

    Aug 28th, 2016 - 12:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    This is the right decision from the court.

    In a free and democratic country the government has no right to tell people what to wear. If a man or woman wants to go to the beach and remain fully covered, whether for religious, medical or personal reasons that is no ones business but their own.

    The most disturbing thing here was the incident (caught on film) of three large armed men forcing a woman to strip. Just because those men wore police uniforms doesn't make it right. It just makes it a state sanctioned sexual assault on the woman. On and it is sexual assault if you force a woman to strip.

    And I wonder if the woman was a nun in full habit with wimple would the police in so-called 'secular' France have also forced her to strip too?

    Of course they wouldn't.

    And for those of you claiming it is a PC judgement or using the word 'feminist' in a disparaging manner then I would like to remind you of something.

    In a free society ALL people regardless of race, religion, colour or political persuasion have the EXACT same rights. When you start limiting those rights for a group of people based on their religion then you begin to lose freedom.

    None of the terrorist attacks in France were EVER carried out by a woman, yet it is women who are being targeted in France. Hence why the 'feminists' or any ordinary sane person with half a brain and eyes are protesting these 'laws'.

    So if all the murders were committed by men why aren't they forcing all men to shave off their beards? Why don't they stop them wearing hats?

    Where does it end? Start forcing all Muslims to wear the crescent to identify them? Then to make it easier concentrate them all in one area? Then lock them in and star disposing of the problem?

    For those of you who are going to claim that I'm over reacting, well no I'm not. The holocaust started out small. Little things like beginning to restrict the rights of certain groups of people.

    We must be ever vigilant to prevent other genocides from happening.

    Aug 28th, 2016 - 08:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @11 Quite right, and I don't think you are over-stating the issue.

    I am pretty sure the photos of the armed police surrounding the muslim woman were staged for political purposes. The Cannes area is one of the most right wing areas in France. I was there last year when the Paris terrorists attacks happened and they had the attack close by in Nice recently. When I was in Cannes after the terrorist attack some of the local people said that this would further incite the far right and it appears they were correct.

    I don't think women wearing burkinis should be criminalised. If they want to crack down they should arrest the people selling burgers in the beach cafes at at 54 euros; now that is criminal.

    Aug 28th, 2016 - 09:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 12 ElaineB

    But I bet you bought 'a few'!

    Come on, own up. How could anyone who flies first class everywhere NOT buy them?

    Aug 28th, 2016 - 11:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @13 There you go again. Green with envy that I fly First Class. Is that why you despise the 'stinking' poor so much; because you are one of them?

    “How could anyone who flies first class everywhere NOT buy them?”

    It is very easy. I just don't buy them. It really is that easy.

    Aug 28th, 2016 - 11:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 14
    “Is that why you despise the 'stinking' poor so much; because you are one of them?”

    You are really desperate now aren't you and will claim any wacky option that deflects the truth from shining on you?

    I despise the stinking poor because they never make an effort to better themselves. Everybody under the age of forty or so had an education capable of allowing them to find a job and earn money. They chose not to work and left school without finishing the standard education. They condemned their own children to much of the same.

    Some of the 'children' who rule us (their term) are in this situation other than The Broad Fraud allow them to stand for election in 'stinking poor' areas, for which they get payment beyond avarice. Thus perpetuating the problem.

    You really have no idea about Uruguay, why should anybody believe you about other countries in SA?

    And you sympathise with these people. You are even more ridiculous than ever.

    Aug 28th, 2016 - 05:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @15 Why don't you leave Uruguay? You do nothing but complain about it and insult the people. Could you actually afford to return to the U.K.?

    Aug 28th, 2016 - 05:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • McGregor

    @ 11

    France IS a secular society and needs no advice from us in FRENCH law.

    There is no Islamic requirement to wear the Burka or Burkini so why do they do it ?

    There are examples of terrorists wearing Burka's as a disguise.

    You are not free to wear what you want where you want in GB. Try going shopping in a mankini or wearing swastica's in court.

    99.99 percent of Nazi's never gassed anybody so isn't it an over reaction to object to swastica's ?

    If women travel to Saudi Arabia they rightly cover up out of respect - when in Rome. If you CHOOSE to live in France should you not adopt French customs, respect French laws and integrate ?

    Angela Merkel should be forced to view the dead bodies in Nice to see the results of her open door policy. Also to hear first hand the many accounts of rape & sexual assault across Europe. Not to mention 84 year old priests being beheaded.

    At least the French have started to realise that something urgently needs to be done. The Burkini ban may not be the way forward but at least it represents some attempt to demonstrate that France is not Saudi Arabia.

    The very last thing France needs is more hand wringing bleeding heart liberals whose solution is..................erm what exactly ?

    Aug 28th, 2016 - 09:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    McGregor who only ever turns up and posts when ChrisR's back is against the wall.

    Aug 29th, 2016 - 07:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • James Marshall

    Looking at some of the bodies on show down here in Portugal, it wouldn't be a bad idea to enforce the Burkini on some of the men and women on the beaches, just for the sake of decency and good taste.

    Aug 29th, 2016 - 02:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • McGregor

    @ 18 It's not all about you & Chris

    It grates somewhat that, with everything that has been going on in Europe lately, anybody considers being asked to remove a Burka on a beech of the slightest importance.

    Stating that 3 armed policeman forced the lady to strip - ridiculous ! The lady in question was fully clothed underneath. It is about the same as being asked to remove a donkey jacket before entering a pub.

    Perhaps the lady may wish to reflect that the French may not wish to share their beech with someone dressed like an ISIS fighter, paticularly when it is not actually required by their religion to do so ?

    Aug 29th, 2016 - 06:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    1) It is a beach.

    2) She wasn't dressed like an IS fighter.

    Aug 29th, 2016 - 07:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    Quite frankly, however ridiculous they may look, let the idiots wear what they want.....as long as their faces are visible.....Don't think I'd want to see their fat arses and flabby legs anyway...
    But I have a question : if the Muslims defend the right to wear their 'burkinis' to a beach in Europe, do the fundamentalist Muslim countries allow European women to wear bikinis on THEIR beaches ??

    Aug 29th, 2016 - 08:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • James Marshall

    @22...The logic is sound to a non religious person, but a Muslim/Christian etc would argue that it is required as part of a religious belief (however misconceived, right or wrong).

    @20..Not sure you could hide a gun down your Burkini and salt water plays havoc with IED electricals, so I think we are safe on that score. All she needed to do was carry a surf/paddleboard, then she could argue that she was suitably dressed.

    I think there is a big difference between a Burka and a Burkini on a beach, there needs to be a bit of rational thinking introduced when making such decisions.

    Aug 30th, 2016 - 07:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • McGregor

    @ 21

    1 It is actually a FRENCH Beach and as such the French are fully entitled to say who may go on the beach, when they may go on the beach and what attire either is, or is not, acceptable on THEIR beach. Just like the Arabic countries are entitled to specify the standard of attire in their own countries. If people really cannot accept a countries laws CHOOSE a country where you can.

    2 Close enough to cause offence to the French.

    Aug 30th, 2016 - 03:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @24 I was helping you with the spelling; beach not beech, as you wrote twice.

    It is not the French who decided, it was one province with a strong right-wing local government. Whether or not it is legal is being tested in the French courts.
    All those caps, just like ChrisR.

    2. That is a matter of opinion. They actually look more like wet-suits. And you claimed they were dressed like IS fighters which was, of course, entirely wrong.

    Only responding to my post, not the others that disagree with you?

    Aug 30th, 2016 - 04:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 24 McGregor

    You've crossed swords with Mother Teresa I see. :o)

    Don't worry, nobody takes any notice of her, she lies too much.

    The stupid female is attempting the ChrisR nonsense again, she must be doubly desperate.

    Aug 30th, 2016 - 07:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @26 You take a lot of notice of me by mentioning me all the time. Kinda dumb, aren't you?

    So, the burkini ban has been thrown out by the French courts. Quite right.

    Aug 30th, 2016 - 07:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 27 Mother Teresa

    I am 'talking' about you, not to you.

    YOU referred to me 'Kinda dumb, aren't you?'

    Aug 31st, 2016 - 11:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @28 Mention my name in any disparaging comment and you will receive a rebuttal from me.

    You are incredibly dumb and ignorant if you think otherwise.

    Aug 31st, 2016 - 01:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    Just one question.....given the Muslim “way-of-life”, doesn't it sound weird that Muslim women would want to go to a Riviera resort and mingle with westerners and the 'decadent' western ways ? and more, how come their fathers and / or husbands allow it ??

    Aug 31st, 2016 - 08:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • McGregor

    @25

    “Only responding to my post, not the others that disagree with you?”

    Don't flatter yourself, my post @ 17 was in response to LEPRecon @ 11 not you.

    “It is not the French who decided” - Actually it was.

    “2. That is a matter of opinion. They actually look more like wet-suits. And you claimed they were dressed like IS fighters which was, of course, entirely wrong.”

    How can it be a matter of opinion if I am entirely wrong. ?

    Not only are you a consumate liar you don't even make sense.

    Aug 31st, 2016 - 11:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    @30 Jack Bauer
    The real hardliners are opposed to the burkini for exactly that reason. It's actually worn by women who take their religion seriously but otherwise want to lead a full life, which is another reason the ban makes little sense. It's not the Isis supporters who are wearing it.

    I've never seen a burkini in the wild, but I have seen Muslim women swimming in their clothes. A burkini seems preferable to that.

    Sep 01st, 2016 - 06:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @31 McGregor. Do I really need to give you a lesson in grammar as well as spelling. You do make yourself look very silly. Try again.

    The French people as a whole were not supportive of the ban; it was imposed by one hard-right local government in Cannes. The ban has been lifted. The story ends.

    Sep 01st, 2016 - 07:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • McGregor

    @33 Elaine. Get over yourself, you struggle with basic comprehension let alone grammar. You also seem to struggle with basic facts and the truth - the press states that about 20 local mayors supported the ban.

    Now I know you think that you speak for everybody else but “The French people as a whole” is going too far even for you. Prove that the French people as a whole do not support the ban.

    Whilst your at it you might want to check out the latest Yougov survey of British opinion on the subject ?

    It seems that the story does not end.............

    Sep 01st, 2016 - 04:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @34 What are you bleating about now?

    Under French law the burkini ban imposed by Cannes was not legal. If the French people want to change that law they will have to vote on it. There are really only two far-right provinces so I hardly think Cannes is representative of all the French people. You said it yourself, it was a local ban supported by local mayors. Do you ever think about what you write?

    I don't speak for anyone but myself.

    Sep 01st, 2016 - 05:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • McGregor

    @ 35 Elaine

    “I hardly think Cannes is representative of all the French people.” Cannes is probably more representative of the French people than just you though ?

    Also of the British people according to the Yougov poll that you so conveniently failed to address in your response - well fancy that.........

    Lastly I believe the French Government could change the law without the French people needing to vote on it - do you ever think about what you write ?

    Sep 01st, 2016 - 06:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @36 I don't claim to speak for the French people. I was just stating the facts.

    I haven't seen the poll you refer to so why would I comment on it.

    Are you upset the ban has been lifted?

    Sep 01st, 2016 - 07:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    @32 DT
    Thanks.

    Sep 01st, 2016 - 10:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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