MercoPress. South Atlantic News Agency
Falklands mine clearance project receives a new £20m UK commitment
The Falkland Islands Government, FIG, and Falkland Islanders have welcomed the announcement of a new £20m landmine clearance commitment by the UK which will make safe dozens of areas which have been unusable for residents and visitors. The project financed by the Foreign Office and Ministry of Defense will clear 46 minefields over the next two years and prepare for clearance another 27. So far more than 30 minefields have been cleared in the Falklands in recent years and this is in line with the UK obligations under the Ottawa Treaty. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesAdd that £20m to what Argentina owes for the damage from their childish little adventure in 1982.
Sep 14th, 2016 - 09:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It was 34 years ago. Argentina isn't going to pay anything.
Sep 14th, 2016 - 11:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Get over it!
Thank me Islanders for providing, in part, the funds to clear the mines...even though I'm not a resident, I'm never going to visit and I don't know you from Adam...
Sep 14th, 2016 - 11:42 pm - Link - Report abuse -1I'm sure that the Islanders are very grateful to you Voice and that the funding has nothing at all to do with the UK's obligations for mine clearance under UN rules. And despite the UK having delayed those duties due to the Islanders agreeing to delay the process.
Sep 15th, 2016 - 02:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0The fact that you don't know them probably comes as a massive relief to the Islanders Voice, as they don't suffer fools lightly
Speaking as a British taxpayer there no need to thank me Islanders. I am more than happy to fund mine clearance and help pay for your defence from aggression. The Briish aid budget is about £12 billion and is spent all over the world, some of it to very dubious places where it finds its way into the pockets of corrupt officials and politicians. I do object to that.
Sep 15th, 2016 - 08:26 am - Link - Report abuse -1Having visited the Falklands briefly I loved the place, the friendly village atmosphere of Stanley, the rugged camp and the teeming wildlife. I want to come again.
Don't Think there are many people like our parsimonious poster above. The vast majority of British people are your friends and wish to see you develop and flourish. There are few more peaceful and welcoming places than the Falkland Islands.
The only mystery is why a neandethal Scotch twit is so concerned about where his taxes are being wasted when he only has to look on his own doorstep to see waste on a huge scale? He has never explained what motivates his hatred or why he spends many hours poring over obscure ancient irrelavent facts trying to prove that you have no right to exist?
@3 No need to thank you. You are obligated to pay taxes and how they are spent is nothing to do with you beyond your one vote at elections. In a democracy you vote for the person who makes those decisions; nothing more.
Sep 15th, 2016 - 09:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0(Though I highly doubt you pay tax in the U.K.)
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Sep 15th, 2016 - 09:36 am - Link - Report abuse -1I highly doubt you live in the UK...let alone pay taxes...
I have never seen one shred of evidence to support this..
Just another expat or Johnny Foreigner...that feels they need to be heard and have relevance....
Whether I'm Forced to pay....obliged to pay it's sill my money that pays for these services....
In a lot of ways the minefields on the Falklands are useful, aside from their role in protecting the penguin nesting grounds - there aren't that many places with stable politics, a welcoming population, such apparent seasons appropriate for demining and such well labelled suspect areas.
Sep 15th, 2016 - 09:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0All of which I would have thought make it an ideal place to train mine clearance teams?
I am willing to bet that far more of Voicey's taxes are spent on Buckie consumers, deep fried Mars Bar eaters, benefit fraudsters and just plain Scotch malingerers than have ever been spent on defending peaceful islanders, protecting the Falkland landscape , the marine environment, wildlife and the hard working sheep farmers.
Sep 15th, 2016 - 10:12 am - Link - Report abuse -1His hatred cannot be explained by this? It doesnt add up. Logically, Elaine's conclusion is correct.
Anyway, when Wonder Woman gets going folk like Voicey alleges he is will be Royally stuffed north of the border :-) Far more of his mythical taxes will get spent on Scotch scroungers!
As a UK tax payer I would have no problem paying more to defend the FI.
Sep 15th, 2016 - 10:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0An extra 6 Typoons with Meteor,ASRAM AA missiles,Storm Shadow ,Brimstone ground attack missiles etc.Should do nicely,it's not as if we are not paying for them in the first place.
@7 Well you are both paranoid and rather stupid. You have no right to dictate how your taxes are spent.
Sep 15th, 2016 - 11:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0Most people understand the importance of defence spending. You have to live in the U.K. to truly understand why we consider defending places like the The Falklands to be worth every penny.
Well it was a long time coming,
Sep 15th, 2016 - 12:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0now lets see these evil things removed even quicker.
Quite often see a lot of confused comments about the “how” and “why” of the Falklands minefield clearance programme.
Sep 15th, 2016 - 12:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This link is to a very interesting article by someone who was actually involved in the process -
http://www.thinkdefence.co.uk/2010/10/falkland-islands-de-mining/
9 CaptainSilver....
Sep 15th, 2016 - 12:49 pm - Link - Report abuse -1Seeing as I could buy and sell you...I think my contributions are greater than yours...
Why do we always have to pay and they don't is my point...
If you want to be British...pay British taxes...
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“You have to live in the U.K. to truly understand why we consider defending places like the The Falklands to be worth every penny.”
Like I said, you have never provided any evidence that you reside in the UK...as far as I'm concerned you are just an outsider with something to spout about...
...where are you now...?
...buy a local paper and show me or join the other 90% of posters on here that don't reside in the UK at all...
Mind you, we need to invest more in our defence.
Sep 15th, 2016 - 12:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The 12 billion spent on overseas aid each year could buy-4 Astute class SSN,s,4 Queen Elizabeth class Aircraft carriers,12 type 26 Frigates,24 type 31 Frigates.every year indefinitely.
Sep 15th, 2016 - 01:18 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Even if half was spent for a single year the Navy would be transformed .
Voice..
Sep 15th, 2016 - 01:40 pm - Link - Report abuse -1“Seeing as I could buy and sell you” - you wish, you havent got a clue! Back bedroom Architectural technician!
”...I 'Think' my contributions are greater than yours... - contributions to what? Scrabbling about on the internet researching irrelavent facts to argue on an obscure website about something thats irrelavent… pl… ease!
If you are really bothered about where a miniscule amount of British taxes are spent that clearly demonstrates how petty you must be. Fess up you fraud :-)))
And have you ever thought if the islanders paid their taxes to HMRC those same taxes would have to come straight back to the islands in public services? How is that logical?
Have you been to the villas in Argentina, do you want the islands to end up like that? Argentina has far more pressing problems tban funding tbe Falklands. You admit you have never been to tbe Falklands so you know less than I do about them. If you expect us to believe that explanation for the bile you must be barmy.
As the Fi before the war in 82 had a defence force of about 50 Royal Marines it's obvious who is to blame for post 82 defence spending on the FI.
Sep 15th, 2016 - 02:39 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Any complaints about taxpayers money should be directed at Argentina not the UK government.
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Sep 15th, 2016 - 02:47 pm - Link - Report abuse -1No hatred involved I'm just not keen on freeloaders being the responsibility of the UK tax paying public, because of an obscure colonial connection...
If they want a say in the running of a British Overseas Territory then they should pay....
No one on here as yet explained why it is the UK tax payers responsibility...if these relics can't exist on their own they should leave instead of existing on handouts...
Charity begins at home...
19 Surely if this concerns you so much you must be absolutely livid with all the multitude of scroungers we have to tolerate in the UK? And we all know the areas of the UK where that lifestyle predominates? Many Islanders have lived there for generations, its their home. What are they supposed to do - according to you and your pal? I believe that their intention is to spend some of the oil revenues to pay for their defence. Seems right to me. In the meantime quite right to clear up the minefields.
Sep 15th, 2016 - 03:16 pm - Link - Report abuse -1That not how taxes work Voice, you don't get to pick and choose which parts of your country are more deserving than others. That is what politicians do, judge the resources and their usage.
Sep 15th, 2016 - 03:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just face it, Voice, you need to pay taxes and some of those taxes are used in parts of the UK you don't agree with.
Scottish independence will fix this problem for you but create a whole lot of new ones..... namely that your taxes will increase to pay for the welfare state that Scots desire. That's a much bigger worry than the piddly amount spent on the Falkland Islands.
Perhaps some of those mines could be repatriated to Argentina and emplaced in the ground in much the same spirit of friendship as was demonstrated by the argies in 1982. They would feel right at home with the time-bombs left by the CFK government.
Sep 15th, 2016 - 04:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Could send the work avoiding Buckie swiggers down to tbe Falklands on mine clearance duties :-))) and save the money! Voicey would be delighted.
Sep 15th, 2016 - 06:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@14 Hahahaha. Buy a local paper and prove it? I am not being held hostage. Hahahaha
Sep 15th, 2016 - 06:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I don't have to prove anything to you as your opinion of me means nothing.
As I tried to explain to you, you do not control where your taxes go (if you pay any), you only get to vote in an election of who is going to decide where the money is spent.
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Sep 15th, 2016 - 06:52 pm - Link - Report abuse -1......I have no opinion of you...
“as far as I'm concerned you are just an outsider with something to spout about...”
Sep 15th, 2016 - 09:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sorry Voice, but that is an opinion.
I suppose it is Skip...
Sep 15th, 2016 - 10:22 pm - Link - Report abuse -1...damn... there's always one...
Voice, I still dont get it, you arent Voicing any doubts about aid to African countries who dont pay British taxes? But you object to defence aid to the Falklands? In the words of Ali G is it because they is white?
Sep 15th, 2016 - 10:42 pm - Link - Report abuse -1Still missing the point Voice. Mine clearance is an obligation that the UK has under the UN.
Sep 15th, 2016 - 11:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That makes it your obligation too.
Doesn't it give you a warm feeling inside to know that you are meeting your obligations?
If everyone is going to argue over, the overseas aid program,
Sep 16th, 2016 - 06:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Then just give it to me, I wont complain...lol
I've been away from here for a little while, so I may have missed something, but surely 'Voice' is another sock-puppet of our whisky-drinking, trout- fishing silver fox from Chubut. In which case answering him as if he actually has anything valid to offer on the subject of how British taxes are spent is only going to encourage him.
Sep 17th, 2016 - 01:52 am - Link - Report abuse +1Monty69,
Sep 17th, 2016 - 12:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Most of us think the same.
And if you read “Think's” posts, you will see that his English has greatly improved also.
(32) ..................... in part thanks to you, Chère Isolde....
Sep 17th, 2016 - 02:25 pm - Link - Report abuse -1But still a far cry from Mr. Voice and Cmdr.Doveoverdover exquisite Engrish...
Not to speak about those defenestreated for being my sockpuppets, but later “rehabilitated”...
Like for example Mr. Roger Lorton, Mr. Heisenbergcontext, Mr. Chicureo, Mr. PominOz an some others I don't rememner at the moment...
I told you before dahling and I tell you now...
There is only one Think...
Grüssli
Ps.
Any good fishing lately, Monty 96?
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Sep 18th, 2016 - 12:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0No. The season's only just started. A bit crazy to have a closed season for an invasive species, but there it is.
Defense-treated or Defenestrated Think?
Sep 18th, 2016 - 01:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0Sounds almost like a compliment, although I never recall you referring to me as a “sock puppet.” Memory fades.
Fortunately, I was educated in Birmingham so it's only by pure chance that I speak Engrish at all :-)
England will return the Malvinas within 25 years.
Sep 18th, 2016 - 05:02 am - Link - Report abuse -1(34) Monty 96
Sep 18th, 2016 - 02:09 pm - Link - Report abuse -1Hmmmmmmmmmmmm....
The brainchild of some fundamentalistic “Catch & Release” rich Pom fly fishereman for sure...
Here in continental Argentina season opens first in November...
Can't wait to practice some “Hook & Cook” fishing with my new “one fly”, “one knot” Tenkara tackle...
(35) Mr. Roger Lorton...
Following the theory of some Anglo turnips in here, I could say that the ”defenestr(e)ated” mistake was part of my cunning plan of making silly mistakes once in a while in order to cover for my alleged sockpuppets that happen to write perfect Engrish...
Just an attention error... though....
...Don't you remember, years ago, when we were having a spirited exchange of opinions about Lager Vs. Ale that some turnips were crying foul?
Still no decent Ale in them tropics.... huhhhhh? ;-)))
Regards
El Think
36 Hepatia (#)
Sep 18th, 2016 - 07:14 pm - Link - Report abuse +1England will return the Malvinas ,
And yet both voted to remain British,?
Don't you mean , Argentina will give the land back to the original inhabitant in the next 20 years.
36 Hepatia-England will return the Malvinas??
Sep 19th, 2016 - 11:26 am - Link - Report abuse +1No Hepatia-The United Kingdom will not ”return(?)” the Falklands. You need to brush up your History a little old Squire.England has been a part of the UK for over 300 years so has no direct say in the future of the Falklands
Argentine patagonia will be returned to the descendants of the native Mapuche, Haush, and Tehuelche/Aonikenk within 25 years.
Sep 19th, 2016 - 02:28 pm - Link - Report abuse +1TWIMC
Sep 19th, 2016 - 05:59 pm - Link - Report abuse -1I luuuuuuuuuuv this Hepatia girl...
She completely commands the Anglo turnip scene in here...
She says sit, they sit. She says bark, they bark. She says 25 years” they go crazy
She can even get an Engrish gentleman as GeoffWard out off his tropical sopor ;-)))
The mines are being cleared due to the treaty if the UK doesnt want to give other nations where mines are more of a threat to people an excuse to avoid clearing.
Sep 19th, 2016 - 06:42 pm - Link - Report abuse +1An offical apology would be nice from argentina.
Tell you what..., Anglo turnip at (42)
Sep 19th, 2016 - 07:24 pm - Link - Report abuse -1You just show me ONE (1) Brutish apology for the thousands and thousands acts of aggression the UK Has committed during the past ~800 years against almost every region, race, and religion on this planet... and we can start talking...
Now that will stump them all,
Sep 19th, 2016 - 07:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0now you do the same,
You just show me ONE (1)Argentina, Anglo Spanish apology for the thousands and thousands acts of aggression they have both committed during the past ~800/ 150 for the argies, years against almost every , race, and religion on this Americas, and we can start talking...
Cough cough,
im off see you later, chuckle chuckle.
(44) My dear ignorant “turnip surprise”* lad...
Sep 19th, 2016 - 07:58 pm - Link - Report abuse -1Not one..., not two... but three Argentinean presidents have officialy apologised to Paraguay for one of the few wars Argentina has ever fought...
The latest apology from a couple of years ago you can see in the attached video...:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=J94wpDpHCL0
*(I call you “turnip surprise”, because you, in contraposition to many other turnips in here, are not ignorant of your own ignorance...;-)
@45 Think,
Sep 19th, 2016 - 09:10 pm - Link - Report abuse +1l neither know nor care how many RG Presidents have “apologised” to Paraguay.
Talk is cheap, especially RG (insincere)talk.
What we want to see are the actions.
When will Argentina return the land that they(you)stole from Paraguay in 1871?
And any other dates if applicable?
Soon?
We wouldn't want “the whole world”(who is calling for “negotiations”) to think that Argentina's word couldn't be trusted, would we now?
Oh, the whole world thinks that already. Pity.
And while you're in the returning mode, what about returning Patagonia to any surviving native Amerindians.?
Of course there isn't too many of them left because you Argentines slaughtered most of them.
Yes Think, l do know that many others, including us did some horrible things.
l just point out some of Argentina's failings because many of you RGs think that you are as pure as the driven snow & like to take the high moral ground.
What a great track record Argentina.
Do you really think that we would welcome your “benevolent” rule?
Get real.
NO means NO, RG-land.
(46) Chère Isolde
Sep 19th, 2016 - 10:52 pm - Link - Report abuse -1Please relax..., take three deep breathes, pour yourself a stiff Moskovskaya and don't worry that pretty little mind of yours sooo much....
All that searing, scorching & smoking ain't healthy...
Remember lass... You ain't thirty no more ;-)
@43 Think
Sep 20th, 2016 - 01:51 am - Link - Report abuse +1In 2013 William Hague said the following: “We understand the pain and grief of those who were involved in the events of emergency in Kenya. The British government recognises that Kenyans were subjected to torture and other forms of ill-treatment at the hands of the colonial administration.”
“The British government sincerely regrets that these abuses took place and that they marred Kenya's progress to independence. Torture and ill-treatment are abhorrent violations of human dignity which we unreservedly condemn.”
This statement to the House of Commons accompanied compensation of 19.9 million pounds. The government fought tenaciously against making both the compensation and Britain's accountability, but in the end they did the right thing, and I believe Hague's ( comprehensive ) apology was sincere.
For your further edification, Tony Blair ( in 1997 ) apologised for Britain's involvement in the Irish Potato Famine. John Bruton, the Irish prime minister's response: “While the statement confronts the past honestly, it does so in a way that heals for the future”.
In 2010, David Cameron, in the wake of a ( damning ) inquiry, made an apology for his country's participation in the Bloody Sunday killings in 1972. The full statement is remarkable, in my opinion, for it's thoroughness.
I will resist any temptation to editorialise.
@47 Think,
Sep 20th, 2016 - 09:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0Very condescending of you Herr Think.
l only drink wodka sparingly anyway, my man.
Vino Moscato is more my scene.
Or coffee.
So now do you realise that “apologies” without deeds means jackshit.
Action speaks louder than words.
So do you have a timeline as to when you RG Squatters will be leaving Paraguayan territory?
Then handing it back to the rightful owners?
l know that these are questions that put Argentina on the spot, but hey, someone has to prod you RGs into actually doing the right thing.
You've had plenty of time to take your mythical malvioso case to the ICJ but somehow you just never seem to get around to it. Wonder why(snigger)?
btw Think, in this context its “breaths” not “breathes”.
45 Think (#)
Sep 20th, 2016 - 12:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0a typical argy turnip response,
the brits have been saying sorry for decades,
when will Argentina say sorry to the islanders , when will Argentina return all the land it has stolen,
you argy turnips are not as clever as you think you are.
(49) Mr. Heienbergcontext (#
Sep 20th, 2016 - 02:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How fitting that my so vilified Aussie sockpuppet is the onlyresponding in defence og his colonial masters....
But.............. hold your horses, Mr. H...
I said “Acts of agression commited by the UK”
The apologies you mention are NOT for any “act og agression commited by the UK” (Wars, conquests, invasions, genocides, subjugation, slavery etc etc.) but for the torture, ill-treatment are abhorrent violations of human life and dignity commited by the UK Colonial Administration against already subjugated peoples......... against their very own UK laws...
We all know that the Kenyan Mau Mau apology (on an empty Engrish Parliament) was just a pathetic exercise in rimming Mr. Obama's arse...
The apologies to them UK citizen Paddies....
Very nice but.... 45 years after, not one bloody uniformed Engrish assassin from Bloody Sunday has done any time....
Kindly compare with the hundreds of top brass Argie officers serving life for killing Argie citizens...
Please “editorialise” as much as you feel like about the above....
Regards
El Think...
(49) Chère Isolde
Moscato vine.... huhhhhhh.
Well that's a huge improvment from that fruit shandies you used to drink years ago... You are maturing well..., my girl....
Thanks again for always rushing to my help and correcting me primitive Engrish.... I always give you the credit when some Anglo gentleman angler comments my linguistic improvements....
Btw. dahling.. in an Engrish context it's “Vodka” not “Wodka”....
Regards...
El Think..
Atrocities in Argentina (1976–1983) - Holocaust Museum Houston
Sep 20th, 2016 - 06:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0https://www.hmh.org/la_Genocide_Argentina.shtml
Atrocities in Argentina (1976–1983). On March 24, 1976, a military junta led by General Jorge Rafael Videla seized power from President Isabel Peron. Between ...
Dirty War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
https://www.hmh.org/la_Genocide_Argentina.shtml
The “Dirty War” (Spanish: Guerra Sucia) or State Terrorism, also known as the Process of ..... The left-wing guerrillas were also responsible for a number of atrocities committed in this period. On 4 February 1972, .... The Argentine security forces used techniques no different from their US and French counterparts in Vietnam.
Argentina: “some atrocities are too awful to contemplate” - ICRC
https://www.hmh.org/la_Genocide_Argentina.shtml
Enough said,
hey lets change the subject,
far to much violence,
what we need is some fun.
.'The Sun not the Moon causes ocean tides' Carswell in bizarre Twitter spat with professor
https://www.hmh.org/la_Genocide_Argentina.shtml
And Tim thinks all labour supporters may well vote for him as the savoir of democracy,
ya could not make it up....
ONE (1) Brutish apology for the thousands and thousands acts of aggression the UK Has committed during the past ~800 years against almost every region, race, and religion on this planet.
Sep 20th, 2016 - 07:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A somewhat broad brush approach and a difficult matter to accomplish.
For a start, there were NO “British” atrocities 800 years ago that I am aware of,
We had England, Scotland, Ireland and the Welsh had been subsumed by England. So, there could be no “British” atrocities in 1216 or, in effect until after 1707.
At this point I was going to elaborate but I can't be arsed continuing a juvenile tit- for-tat name calling session.
The Hairy Bikers have just started their tour of Morocco and their culinary specialities in cooking chicken. Much more interesting and useful than anything Argentina has to offer.
@51 Think,
Sep 20th, 2016 - 09:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Caught you again, Thinkus Horrobilus.
You still didn't answer the questions, Think, but deflected again and again.
l even threw the “wodka” in as bait-and you took it!
Oh Think, you are so easy-no real challenge at all.
So my dear Think, when is Argentina going to return the land it stole from Paraguay?
And when will Argentina vacate Patagonia?
And when will Argentina apologise to the Falkland lslands?
And when will Argentina apologise & make reparations to the UK for their war dead?(& the costs of the war, which Argentina started).
And when will Argentina stop their lying to the world about their ridiculous “claims” in the South Atlantic?
Never, l suppose, as Argentina lives in cuckoo land.
You should try Moscato Think.
lt might sweeten your soul.
Regards,
I
Chère Isolde...
Sep 20th, 2016 - 11:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As much as I luuuuv being “catched” by you, dahling....I don't Think that's the case today...
I Think your self confessed predilection for that cheap Polish Wodka (their spelling) sold in Puerto Estanley's General Store has betrayed you...
By the way...
If you ever have the chance, do taste a Moscato Nero...
It will certainly sweeten your insular existence,... sweetheart....
Yours faithful
El Think
;-)))
The joke is, Think Thinks he's Brad Pitt, but we all know he's really Hissing Sid. And… .creepy…… especially Isolde!
Sep 20th, 2016 - 11:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@51 Think
Sep 21st, 2016 - 03:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0You wanted one example of a British apology for 'acts of aggression'. You got three when clearly expecting none, and get all indignant? Greedy much?
I'm sure the victims of Kenyan independence must be comforted to know that being tortured isn't an act of aggression. Your belief that Hague's apology was to placate the american President ( I'm not going to use your ugly vulgarity ) does not mean “We all know”, and the evidence does not support your belief anyway. The evidence of human rights abuses was explicit and undeniable, the case for compensation well argued. The British government had little choice but to acknowledge it's accountability. That does not make Hague's speech less praiseworthy in my opinion.
Prosecuting any crimes stemming from the Bloody Sunday massacre is the responsibility of Northern Ireland's Public Prosecution Office - not the British government, and in any case comparing one massacre in which 14 people died with a reign of terror during which anywhere between 13 000 & 22 000 'disappeared' brings to mind the phrase 'order of magnitude'.
But to be fair here,
Sep 21st, 2016 - 06:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0if one expects Britain to apologise for past aggressions,
then is it not fair that ALL countries apologise for past aggression,
And would not, this in the first instance include every single European country,
and probably most countries on the planet today,
Except=apparently Argentina who it seems have nothing to apologise for, according to some.
just saying like.
You must be able to draw a line somewhere sometime.
(57) Mr. Heisenbergcontext...
Sep 21st, 2016 - 06:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sorry, but I did NOT get three examples of apologies about Brutish Agression...
What I got are two examples of UK Goverment apologies to UK citizens...
The first for exagerating their use of the “Free Market” in 1800's Ireland...
The second for killing a few UK Paddies during the seventies..
Then you gave me the “Masterpiece.”.. The one I call “the rim job to appease Mr. Obama” about the “Kenyan Emergency”
... False, calculating & pathetic as only an Engrish mind can concieve...
Wonder if BAE got a juicy contract after that...
I ask meself...:
Why precisely the Kenyan Emergency?
Why precisely at this moment in time?
Why not the Aden Emergency? (Where incidentally British bombs are, TODAY, killing the grandsons of the British Colonial abuses)
Why not the Malayan Emergency ( Where incidentally your Country didn't play a minor role)
Why..., why..., why...?
The list is endless...
By the way... I really Think you should seriously reconsider that “Order of Magnitude” of yours, matey...
Are you seriously telling me that you Think it is OK for the UK Government to murder 14 UK Paddy civilian citizens, brainwash their citizens blaming the victims with a couple of false inquires and get away with it by giving some lame apology 45 years later...?
Think, stop deflecting about Kenya, Malaya etc etc.
Sep 22nd, 2016 - 09:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0There is a time & place for everything & here we are talking about perfidious Argentina's actions re Paraguay & the Falklands.
You still have not answered the questions.
When will Argentina return the land that they stole from Paraguay?
When will Argentina vacate Patagonia?
When will Argentina apologise to the UK & the Falklands for starting the war in 1982?
When will Argentina pay compensation for all the troubles that Argentina caused in 1982?
No more deflections or squirming out of it Think.
Educate yourself & try to justify Argentina's ridiculous “claims”.
Why, why, why, indeed Think & the list IS endless.
It would be interesting to find out what the argentines would actually do with the Falkland's,
Sep 22nd, 2016 - 01:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Or is it that they are only after the wealth the islands have, and sod the inhabitants,
A bit their own people then,
the government gets the riches, and the people get nothing.
@59 Think
Sep 23rd, 2016 - 04:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0I understand why cynicism is so appealing to the ideologically didactic. It's just so easy isn't it? So what if the Irish & Kenyans were British citizens at the time? Certainly they didn't consider themselves British at the time, nor did they choose their citizenship. Nor did it help them at the time.
You'd rather adopt modern porn terminology to make your case than accept the simplest explanation is the most accurate: the Kenyan plaintiffs were truly committed, their legal team extremely competent, the historical context well presented by credible experts and the evidence was both voluminous and incontrovertible. You mention other episodes of colonial excesses - I consider the settlement and apology even more remarkable given the potential for legal ( and moral ) precedent.
Your last para adopts the most negative interpretation, assumes it is factual, and actually asks if I justify it. Troy Tempest would surely approve.
@61 Briton
Sep 23rd, 2016 - 06:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Argentines wouldn't know what to do with the Falklands if they somehow got them handed to them on a platter.
This was evident in 1982, after their invasion. They honestly believed that they could 'bribe' the people of the Falklands, and bought in VHS machines and videos to distribute to the 'grateful' downtrodden people. The one thing they hadn't counted upon was the fact that no one in the Falklands owned a television (and they hadn't brought any of them with their invasion force.
Yet at the same time as their supposed 'benevolence' (attempt at bribery), they immediately started acting like imperialist colonialist overlords, and forced the Falklanders to drive on the right, forced worthless Argentine currency on them, and forced them to teach Argentine Spanish, history etc... in the schools.
Then they wondered why the Falkland Islanders where less than welcoming.
So because the Falklanders weren't 'grateful' that Argentina had stolen their land and tried to force an alien culture upon them, the Argentines return to form and started threatening and abusing the UNARMED civilian population. In that 'brave' way that cowards can. Outnumber the population, point guns at them, and when that doesn't work, intern them.
Fortunately the Falklanders never had to live under the 'benevolent' Argentine government for long.
The most bizarre fact though, was beyond stealing the Falklands the Argentine government didn't actually know what to do next with them.
(62) Mr Heisenbergcontext...
Sep 23rd, 2016 - 02:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You say...:
“Cynicism is so appealing to the ideologically didactic.”
I say...:
Are you refering to the Anglo turnip at (42) that provoked my counter argument when he so cynically expressed that...: “An offical apology would be nice from Argentina.” ?
You say...:
“You'd rather adopt modern porn terminology to make your case than accept...”
I say...:
Sorry if my “modern porn terminology” offended your Classical Western Australian education, mate...
“The Analingus to appease Mr. Obama” then...
Is that classic enough?
You say...:
”Your last para adopts the most negative interpretation, assumes it is factual... ”
I say ...:
My last para clearly expresses my frustration over an Anglo poster that has in the past amply demostrated NOT to be a turnip ... trying to dismiss an act of State Terrorism (followed by 45 years of brainwashing State Lies) as was Bloody Sunday... by using a completely invalid “order of magnitude” argument....
Regards
El Think...
@64 Think
Sep 23rd, 2016 - 06:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Para a): Nope.
Para b): I'd say my sex education was most strongly influenced by Fear of Flying, so the technical term would be Jewish American Princess Feminist education. And since your 'analingus' reference was in actuality intended to describe something that would be an act of humiliation - not sexual liberation - my answer, again, is...nope.
Para c): Your frustration is your problem, and I stand by my interpretation.
LEPRecon
Sep 23rd, 2016 - 07:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I totally agree with you.
(65) Heisenbergcomplex...
Sep 23rd, 2016 - 08:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Jewish princess....., huhhhh?
Well...... that explains everything!
;-)
@67 Think
Sep 23rd, 2016 - 09:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0'Heisenbergcomplex' is pretty funny. The rest is evidence you don't want anyone knowing you don't already know everything. Read the book - it's hysterically funny.
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