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PM May to meet Rajoy in Madrid; self determination debate at UN decolonization committee
Prime Minister Theresa May will meet Spain’s caretaker Prime Minister, Mariano Rajoy, in Madrid on Thursday for talks on a range of issues including Brexit. The visit to Spain is part of a string of meetings in European capitals as Mrs May appeals for a fair “divorce deal” from Brussels for the UK. Read full article
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Oct 12th, 2016 - 12:51 pm - Link - Report abuse +1enemies all around,
the greedy and the corrupt,
who want them without a sound
?
Sovereignty claims without cases can only be described as illegitimate & worthless.
Oct 12th, 2016 - 02:53 pm - Link - Report abuse +4Google: ''Falklands - Some Relevant International Law'' & or
”Gibraltar - Some Relevant International Law'' to see the mythical claims debunked.
BB
Neither Ecuador, currently housing a fugitive from justice, nor Serbia, infamous for ethnic cleansing, are in a position to criticise the UK or recommend re-colonisation as a solution. Spain, of course, has no respect for any law.
Oct 12th, 2016 - 03:38 pm - Link - Report abuse +4Come on BB - get yourself an avatar, even though we can tell it's you : )
Oct 12th, 2016 - 04:57 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Self determination and international law must be upheld above and in spite of saber rattling by little countries for internal reasons... the Decolonization Committee must not be allowed to be an Anti-Western weapon for third world countries to use. The Committee should occupy itself with real invaded, unhappy and colonized nations like parts of Ukraine, Moldova, Georgia and Tibet which are more recent and have unhappy populations which are being suppressed and are not even on their list! Is this because they are not Western and with satisfied populations?
Oct 12th, 2016 - 04:58 pm - Link - Report abuse +3Tiresome, and time for this C24 to disband as it is simply being hijacked. In Gib's case, once again we have invited them to visit 'to see for themselves' - which is, in fact, one of their primary duties as listed in their remit from the UN - and which they always refuse to do. What is th point of a committee which refuses to do the principle job with which it is entrusted? Why does it allow Spain even to speak when the 'decolonisation' process is simply a matter between Gibraltar and the UK? It has no credibility left.
Oct 13th, 2016 - 07:46 am - Link - Report abuse +3Having said that, Spain pulled a clever one by pretending that the 'co-sovereignty' is there to 'help' the people of Gibraltar, who voted overwhelmingly to remain in the EU. It is a lie, of course - Spain would only accept it if it was for a short period and ended in sole Spanish sovereignty; and once again it will only discuss it with the UK, not with the people concerned.
Once again, an attempt at neo-colonialism.
Much more interesting is the fact that the PSOE has tabled a debate on the Cortes on Gibraltar, arguing that Margallo, as 'acting' Foreign Secretary, has no remit to act as he is doing and that he must pursue a policy agreed in the Cortes. They - and all local Spanish politicians with the exception of the corrupt bastard from Algeciras, Sr. Landaluce - are opposed to Margallo's nonsense.
I don't expect much to come out of it though.
Well,
Oct 13th, 2016 - 12:49 pm - Link - Report abuse +2May is visiting Spain, perhaps she will put the Spanish in their place and warn them off,
unless those brave Spanish chase her away..
of course Rajoy holds on two enclaves in Africa without their agreement, and also denies self determination to his OWN population ,regarding CATALONIA. So nothing to learn here from sh&ts like him
Oct 13th, 2016 - 04:17 pm - Link - Report abuse +4Why is 'Tits' even meeting Rajoy, he's not even elected to the post!
Oct 13th, 2016 - 05:25 pm - Link - Report abuse -7Oh, oh, neither is Tits, not by the electorate anyway.
@Jmackiej
Oct 13th, 2016 - 06:13 pm - Link - Report abuse +3Catalonia is probably one of the main reasons Spain won't recognise self-determination for Gibraltar, as it would give legitimacy to their demands for a referendum.
@ChrisR
If you don't like the parliamentary system then move to a country with a president.
Oh wait, you already have. How are you liking Uruguay's system where the President is always elected by the people?
So... a majority government versus a caretaker government. Perhaps it is time to bring Ceuta and Melilla to the discussion and watch the caretaker government squirm?
Oct 13th, 2016 - 08:54 pm - Link - Report abuse +4@ DemonTree
Oct 14th, 2016 - 10:49 am - Link - Report abuse -4And there I was thinking you at least understood something of electoral systems!
Teresa May got her position as a function of the party being elected, though nearly everybody votes for the party leader in general. She was not party leader at the time.
In a presidential system you vote for 'the team': 'Pres and Veep'. If the pres is chucked out as DumbAss was recently you get the Veep.
In the UK you get an unsightly power struggle with the worst candidate being told to go and see HM! No choice at any time by the electorate other than her original MP status.
Uruguay has a presidential system modeled on the states without all the who-arh of a two year 'selection' process. It's not the system I dislike, it's the murdering commie bastards who have hi-jacked the process by banding their own miniscule paries together, getting elected as a 'party' then handing out the top jobs to any illiterate, innumerate, Tom, Dick or Harry all out to line their pockets.
Great country though! :o)
@ChrisR
Oct 14th, 2016 - 05:02 pm - Link - Report abuse +2Since I do not in fact live under a rock, I do know how May got her job.
My point is that this is a normal feature of the parliamentary system. Fully half of the Prime Ministers in my lifetime took over without first winning a general election, although one of them did go on to win one later. People know when they vote (or they damn well should know) that they are voting for their own MP and for a party, not for the PM.
If you want to be able to vote directly for your leader, then you switch to a presidential system, which of course has it's own problems.
As for 'unsightly power struggle', the UK's process for changing the head of government between elections seems strikingly more efficient and straightforward than what we have recently seem in Brazil.
That is an interesting point about the Vice-President being part of the package. I wonder how much the choice of 'Veep' influences people's vote in general. I suppose in some cases it must be a bigger issue eg if the Presidential candidate is older like McCain.
Uruguay has direct elections for President doesn't it? In fact Wikipedia says it does runoffs if no one wins an overall majority, which seems like a much better system than the US's electoral college. Allows people to vote for a third candidate rather than voting solely to keep the one they dislike from winning.
And I think it's pretty impressive that the Broad Front managed to get all those little parties to work together, and has kept them together for so long. Is the problem that they need to share out the jobs among all the parties in order to keep their support, rather than giving them to the most qualified? I can see how that could cause issues.
Chaps, this is an argument one cannot win,
Oct 14th, 2016 - 06:09 pm - Link - Report abuse +2after every referendum those who did not elect leader will always say such things,
The coalition was the last one,
stick with what we have until change or another referendum comes around,
so they say.
@ DemonTree
Oct 14th, 2016 - 07:33 pm - Link - Report abuse +1“Is the problem that they need to share out the jobs among all the parties in order to keep their support, rather than giving them to the most qualified?”
If only that were the case.
The problem that I had when I came here to live (and one you have just shown) is one of logic and good will without knowing the facts.
These little communist based parties (all sorts of stripes and colours) never could get elected on their own merits even after a very brutal armed seditious uprising that resulted in Military rule and even more deaths for civilians.
Then they realized that the constitution, which it seems you have glanced at, didn't stop federated 'parties' from standing hence the problems now BECAUSE, you see, there are NO 'most qualified' people in The Broad Fraud.
The vast majority sitting in the 'parliament' and some, like Pepe and his mates in the senate, have never even finished school but realized that getting themselves elected 'in support' of the stinking poor (who are the people who vote for them) they can sit in a warm place, doing nothing but picking up many thousands of dollars a year. The local intendencia Jefe (a direct political appointment) is rarely seen but still turns up when his 'support' for his mates in required and stuff the rest of us.
When Pepe first became pres he handed out jobs to his mates in the usual way. The Head Of Oncology for the whole of the Maldonado region was a former female manager at a pizza parlour and the Head of Medical Services, who I know very well, was absolutely aghast and appointed a team below her to 'advise' her so as not to kill the citizens. She got chucked out when Vasquez (a self made millionaire oncologist took over for the second time). Unfortunately he did not understand that his second tenure as pres was in totally different financial waters and has admitted he wished he never allowed himself to be talked into his second term.
THAT is what we have to deal with here.
I don't think I understand the system in Uruguay. If the Head of Oncology for the Maldonado region is supposed to be an expert in Oncology, then why is the position a political appointment? Politicians can hardly be expected to judge who is the best person for the job.
Oct 15th, 2016 - 10:52 am - Link - Report abuse +3On the other hand, if the Head of Oncology is not supposed to have any particular expertise in the subject, much like how in the UK the Health Secretary does not need any medical training, then what is the problem? Any person so appointed would need advisers.
It does sound like the system is the problem, if what should be civil service jobs are used instead as gifts for friends and bribes for allies.
And why are there not more educated people in the party? You did mention Vasquez but are there no 'champagne socialists' in Uruguay?
@ DemonTree
Oct 15th, 2016 - 06:13 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Oh we have a Veep who holds a diploma in Human genetics issued by the University of Cuba, except it wasn't and the 'diploma' was printed on common paper using an ink jet.
He decided to add this little 'fib' to his otherwise lackluster CV TGW him 'losing' U$D 300M from the accounts of ANCAP, the national fuels company (a monopoly) and having another two divisions each U$D 300M in the red or legally awarded to their customer for 'commercial shenanigans' on the part of ANCAP.
Not to worry though his 'party' and Mujica no less are defending him on the basis that UYU Universities do not offer this 'course', therefore no UYU law has been broken. Cuba then came out and stated they have never had this course in any syllabus, EVER. They don't even teach the subject. You would think the stupid twat would have checked that at least, wouldn't you?
It's still playing out but the parliament, ruled by the Veep, is on the brink of challenging him in the law courts and the first step (deciding if there is a case to answer) has already taken place and been reserved due to the 'novel' defence'.
We fully expect some whizz to get him off the hook. His name is Sendic and he is the son of the prime instigator of the Tupamaros and a real nasty piece of work with many murders to his name. He also attended MVD University for four years studying law but left without taking the exams but still practiced law. Like father like son it seems.
Maldonado Departmento is about the size of the cut down Staffordshire but with only a twentieth of the population and the head of oncology should have been a medical expert but Mujica had run out of other slots and decided to issue a presidential decree to put this woman pizza cook in post. I live in Maldonado Departmento and was really taken aback when Mujica announced this on TV.
There are millionaires in UYU but I cannot imagine any of them have anything to do with 'socialist' parties which are communist in every way except name.
@ChrisR
Oct 16th, 2016 - 11:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nice, he sounds like quite the prize. I guess his supposed degree is not exactly relevant to the job but most people would be fired if they were found to have lied on their CV like that.
And Mujica using a presidential decree to appoint someone to the job as a favour really does sound like an abuse of his powers, thought I doubt a male pizza cook would have been any more suitable for the job!
Is Vasquez not a millionaire then? But I was not meaning millionaires, but just educated and reasonably well off people. I think in Britain there were some such who were famously supporters of communism and were discovered to have been spying for the USSR. You'd think at least a few of the many parties making up the Broad front would have some well educated members. Wikipedia claims that some of the parties involved are actually quite centrist.
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