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Argentina 'upset and disappointed' with UK military exercises in Falklands but insists with dialogue

Sunday, October 16th 2016 - 06:18 UTC
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The Argentine government feels “upset and deeply disappointed” with the announced British military exercises in the Falklands/Malvinas, which includes the launching of missiles, but nevertheless the government will continue working “to build the opportunity of a dialogue which eliminates the presumptions of conflict” with the UK, said foreign minister Susana Malcorra on Saturday in the Vatican. Read full article

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  • gordo1

    Get through your THICK heads that the Falkland (MALVINAS) archipelago is NOT Argentine territory, never has been nor ever will be!

    What a nation of nabos and boludos!

    Oct 16th, 2016 - 09:06 am - Link - Report abuse +5
  • HughJuanCoeurs

    The only illegal occupation of the FALKLANDS happened back in 1982 which, incidentally, is why the British hold these exercises regularly. You only have yourselves to blame.

    Oct 16th, 2016 - 09:13 am - Link - Report abuse +7
  • JustinKuntz

    http://www.janes.com/article/58226/argentine-navy-tests-locally-upgraded-mm38-missiles

    I don't recall HMG or FIG whining about the ARA loosing of Exocet with gay abandon...

    Oct 16th, 2016 - 09:28 am - Link - Report abuse +10
  • Think

    Mr. Justin(hismind)Kuntz

    This world is not perfect..., laddie
    ... Neither do I recall the current Argentinean administration whining about the Brutish Armed Farces & Weapon Industry murdering, with gay abandon, tens of thousands civilians in places like Afghanistan..., Iraq..., Libya..., Syria & Yemen...

    By the way...
    Any personal succes on getting them Chagossian Tarzans back home?

    Oct 16th, 2016 - 10:17 am - Link - Report abuse -16
  • Martin Woodhead

    Your not trusted the only reason your not making overt threats anymore is because you can't.
    Until you give up your illegal claims the exercises will contiune and next year tge falklands are getting long range Sams so even if you do buy some s/h jets they will get slapped down.
    Why? because its easier and cheaper to deter you from even thinking about it

    Oct 16th, 2016 - 10:18 am - Link - Report abuse +7
  • DemonTree

    Heh, so Macri won't answer questions on 'las Malvinas' and refers them to the foreign minister. Who wants to bet he's been warned off talking about them after his previous screw-up at the UN?

    Oct 16th, 2016 - 10:29 am - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Roger Lorton

    Apparently the Mauritians from Chagos do not wish to go back home to Mauritius Think. That may be why they've become British citizens although that could yet prove to be a mistake - when we hand the Chagos back to Mauritius. Will Mauritius want a load of Brits on its islands?

    And be happy that we Brits are in places like Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, etc, etc ........ we could be in Argentina :-)

    Oct 16th, 2016 - 10:41 am - Link - Report abuse +7
  • The Voice

    Thanks for those comments Think Parrot. We won't mention your illegal attack on the Falklands, your refusal to obey a binding UN resolution to get off them, or your subsequent humiliation at the hands of the British armed forces.

    Please tell us what Argentina has ever done for the worlds oppressed, poor and sick? We know the answer, practically nothing!

    You can try and conflate our recent action in various foreign conflicts but we all know the truth. As always, we the British acted with the noblest intentions.

    Why are your foreign ministers so ugly, first it was someone who resembled Gollum and now you have Jabba the Hutt!

    Oct 16th, 2016 - 10:53 am - Link - Report abuse +5
  • Think

    Mr. Roger Lorton...
    But your Brits are squatting in Argentina since 1833...
    That's the only reason we are having this civilized chat..., laddie.

    Oct 16th, 2016 - 11:04 am - Link - Report abuse -19
  • DemonTree

    “As always, we the British acted with the noblest intentions.”

    Oh sure, it was a total coincidence that out of all the countries ruled by evil dictators, we just happened to pick the ones with oil to invade!

    Oct 16th, 2016 - 11:05 am - Link - Report abuse -5
  • downunder

    “We feel upset and deeply disappointed because it entails a presumption of conflict hypothesis, when Argentina has clearly established in its constitution that Malvinas claims will be done in the framework of International Law”,

    So International Law didn't apply in 1982? Oh that's right, International law required Argentina to withdraw but they refused!

    These Muppets are so pathetic!

    Oct 16th, 2016 - 11:15 am - Link - Report abuse +10
  • DemonTree

    downunder, they added that to their constitution long after the war. Besides, it's not like the military dictatorship cared much about the constitution - or any kind of laws, national or international.

    Oct 16th, 2016 - 11:38 am - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Pugol-H

    Except that under international law Argentina does not have a claim, under international law the Islanders have the right to self-determination.

    Oct 16th, 2016 - 12:51 pm - Link - Report abuse +11
  • Briton

    The Argentine government feels “upset and deeply disappointed,

    So the supposed victims are crying again to gain sympathy,
    its ours , its ours they cry, sob sob, ,
    as she begs the UN and everybody else to listen to her cries ,
    the cries of a very crafty wolf that wants to get into the hen house to create havoc,

    Let them cry, but don't cry for us Argentina, we are not the wolves that want to steal of others,

    cry baby cry, but aint getting the British Falkland's as long as you argentine government officials have a hole up your ???
    so cry away, cry away , cry away Malcorra

    Oct 16th, 2016 - 05:16 pm - Link - Report abuse +10
  • gordo01

    Think

    I really do believe that your nick(Think) is nothing more than just one of your perverted aspirations as clearly you are totally in capable of any meaningful comment.

    Oct 16th, 2016 - 05:20 pm - Link - Report abuse +8
  • Enrique Massot

    Our dancing president couldn't answer questions about Malvinas because the topic “hadn't been in the agenda” of the meeting with Pope Francisco.
    He probably was told not to risk Speaking after his famous “May said she's ready to negotiate” blunder.

    Oct 16th, 2016 - 05:21 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Lord Lucan

    Nabo Think. No, you are the squatter, the thousands of native Indians that you slaughtered all confirm that. Now you want to squat on British territory! Haven't you had enough?

    Oct 16th, 2016 - 07:01 pm - Link - Report abuse +12
  • Pete Bog

    Think
    Yes, the Chagos Support Association are doing our very best to get these British people home. And the Islanders I talked to do not want to be Mauritian because they were treated like shit by the Mauritian government during their exile. Lets get this straight folks, don't listen to press reports that hijack the Islanders wishes-TRY SPEAKING TO THE CHAGGOSIANS! The Chaggosians I spoke to want to be British. They want the US airbase because it provides jobs that should go to British Chaggosians, not the johhny foreigners being employed now.These people had generations of family going back to the 18th century, proven by the graveyards there. they were not first generation implants-that is bullshit. these people don't want Maurituis f***** things up, they want a BRITISH Legislative Council and by the way, they did not receive most of the compensation sent by the UK, that was mostly trousered by Mauritian officials while the Chaggosians have lived in squalor. It is a myth that they want independence on return. It is a myth that they want the yanks out. It is a myth that they want to be anything other than a BOT. What, Think has Argentina done for the Chagossians? I'll tell you, jack shit as Argentina don't want the Chaggosians back. These people are nice, they only want to return home and will comply with anything that HMG offers. If they get enough aid (like the FIG got in the 1980s (that being £31 million), their intention is to be economically self sufficient ,and the gentlemen I met had a lot of realistic ideas(they know their islands better than anyone else) about how to ensure that in 10 years they would not be a burden on the British Taxpayer.Also people forget this. When they were employed on the plantations they had no chance of owning their homes, with a parallel situation in the Falklands pre-1982 re: FIC, tied homes and employment. Since 1982, the Islanders no longer depend on the FIC. The Chagossians want what the Falklanders have had post 1982.

    Oct 16th, 2016 - 08:16 pm - Link - Report abuse +8
  • Think

    Anglo Turnip just above...

    Well....

    That ain't what Good Man Friday, Mr.Olivier Bancoult..., president of the Chagos Refugees Group says...:
    ... “We can join forces with Argentina,” he told the Argentine state news agency Télam. “The day will come when all those responsible are going to have to answer for the crimes against humanity which they committed.”
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/argentina/10740741/We-will-join-Argentina-in-its-battle-with-Britain-say-Chagos-islanders.html

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/argentina/10740741/We-will-join-Argentina-in-its-battle-with-Britain-say-Chagos-islanders.html

    Etc..., etc..., etc...

    Oct 16th, 2016 - 08:41 pm - Link - Report abuse -10
  • Jo Bloggs

    These Rapier exercises have been happening for 30 years and Argentina have been complaining about them each year and yet they still happen. Anyone would think what the UK was doing here was akin to North Korea testing nuclear bombs. It's called training folks. Too bad Argentina doesn't do a bit more so that they may build some cometence and morale in their armed forces.

    3 things are going to happen:
    1. The UK will keep doing the exercises.
    2. The Argentine Government will keep squealing like the victims; and
    3. Our direct flight to Brazil will commence.

    Simple as that.

    Oct 16th, 2016 - 09:20 pm - Link - Report abuse +8
  • Think

    Jo Bloggs...

    I wager you ~6 million square inches of prime Patagonian steppe..., covered by a thick, pristine layer of the finest volcanic ash a man can wish, with unobstructed 360 degrees wiew to the horizon... against that worthless piece of property of yours at Puerto Williams that that direct flight to Brasil will never commence...

    Chuckle, chuckle...

    Oct 16th, 2016 - 09:49 pm - Link - Report abuse -9
  • Jo Bloggs

    Three things are going to happen:
    1. The UK will keep doing the exercises.
    2. The Argentine Government will keep squealing like the victims; and
    3. Our direct flight to Brazil will commence.

    If you didn't Welsh on your bets Think I would take you up on that.

    Oct 16th, 2016 - 10:17 pm - Link - Report abuse +10
  • Think

    Jo Bloggs...

    I have won *All* the very few wagers I have offered in here...
    One of theforst losers (Mr. Dab14763) even informed me he paid his dues to the Red Cross...
    I have no reason to disbelieve his word... , even if we didn't have the opportunity of spitting on our hands before the shake...

    You are still in time to reconsider...
    A magnificent piece of real estate it is...
    Very relaxed location..., no roads..., no cell signal..., no nothing... (and drizabone)...
    Ideal for a stressed, rheumatic Kelper businessman...;-)

    Oct 16th, 2016 - 10:40 pm - Link - Report abuse -8
  • Roger Lorton

    I think the FIG may be a tad surprised that they got 31 million squid in the 1980's. They were self-sufficient from before the 1950's. Shackleton even found that the Treasury had taken a profit during the 1950's & 60's.

    Oct 16th, 2016 - 11:14 pm - Link - Report abuse +6
  • Marcos Alejandro

    Roger Lorton
    I think the FIG may remember this..

    http://www.falklands.net/FalklandsCorruption.shtml

    Oct 17th, 2016 - 03:13 am - Link - Report abuse -6
  • Kanye

    Mr Alejandro,

    What kind of propaganda is that?

    Looks like a very old webpage

    Oct 17th, 2016 - 04:44 am - Link - Report abuse +1
  • gordo01

    Marquitos Alejandrito is a 13 year old who, from time to time, makes silly juvenile comments which usually mean nothing. This is a repeat of his previous performances.

    Oct 17th, 2016 - 06:47 am - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Roger Lorton

    Yes MoreCrap, I remember Bingham. He believes that his court papers have been expunged from the internet and therefore he can make all the allegations that he likes. It hasn't, and he can't :-)

    https://falklandstimeline.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/michael-charles-bingham.pdf

    Oct 17th, 2016 - 09:22 am - Link - Report abuse +5
  • James Marshall

    ' I have won *All* the very few wagers I have offered in here...'...Shame you 'side kick' Voice isn't as honest as you then, as he still owes me £1000.00 Scottish pounds, maybe you could have a word with him.

    Oct 17th, 2016 - 11:02 am - Link - Report abuse +5
  • GALlamosa

    I imagine (though I have never read it) their Constitution also sets a clear demarcation between the Executive and Legislative pillars of Government. How is that going ? And freedom of the press and freedom of speech. All in good shape ?

    Just because it says so in the Constitution doesn't mean it is true. Anyone remember the Defence Minister saying the only reason Argentina wasn't in the Falklands was because the British defended them (nearly 20 years after the Constitutional amendment).

    Oct 17th, 2016 - 11:11 am - Link - Report abuse +6
  • Think

    MR. Roger Lorton / Junius..., three posts above...

    It'sad to see what you have become after winning that award presented by the administrations of British Overseas Territories to recognize loyal and valuable service by native chiefs and other sepoys of non-European origin within the British Empire...

    As I can gather from the below linked excellent article's comments..., me Taffy mates on them British Isles were quick in spotting you and your cohort of Falkland Island Assosciaton financed trolls...

    http://jacothenorth.net/blog/time-to-show-appreciation-of-international-relationships/

    Geeeee....
    You were much more fun when you were a simple Engrishman with his own opinions...

    By the way...
    Really bad Juju you threathening Jack o' through his Facebook & Twitter account...!!!
    No proper beahviour for an ex bobby..., boyo.

    Oct 17th, 2016 - 12:17 pm - Link - Report abuse -5
  • The Voice

    What Jabba and her right hand Sepoy parrot Think really hate is the truth. They just can't stand it. Keep dispelling and exposing their lies and show them up for the fools they are.,

    Oct 17th, 2016 - 01:21 pm - Link - Report abuse +5
  • Islander1

    TGHink- 2 items:
    1.Rogers Medal has nothing to do with any other British territory other than the Falkland Islands and nothing to do with any British controlled Administration. It is restricted just to the Falklands - hence its name, although I think Gib has their own separate version.
    Winners are nominated by the general public here in the Islands - and the one or two each year are selected from the nominated list by FI Executive Council - and the only people who have a vote on that are the 3 elected members of the Assembly. No British FCO or other organisation civil servant has a vote.

    2 - Me thinks my original thoughts on the alleged warlike(routine) short range AA missile tests are born out by Malcorra,s statement- appreciate your Govt has to appease its electorate and say something - same time it looks like relations with UK and FI are likely to continue as outlined.

    Oct 17th, 2016 - 01:39 pm - Link - Report abuse +5
  • Think

    Islander1...

    1 ) “The Certificate and Queens Badge of Honour continues to be awarded in Gibraltar, the Falkland Islands, the Cayman Islands, and Bermuda.”
    All of them BRITISH Overseas Territories...
    “BRITISH”, it says... as in...: B-R-I-T-I-S-H...

    2) If one is to believe the official page of the UK's HMG...:
    “ANYONE can nominate a person for the award and nomination forms are available on request from the office of the Falkland Islands Legislative Assembly in Gilbert House, Stanley.”
    https://www.gov.uk/government/world-location-news/nominations-invited-for-falklands-award
    “ANYONE”, it says... as in...: “A-N-Y-O-N-E”...
    Meaning...: “ANYONE”, not only Kelpers...

    3) You better forget all about that flight to “San Paolo” (as you Kelpers wrongly spell it)..., laddie...

    Oct 17th, 2016 - 02:11 pm - Link - Report abuse -4
  • Kanye

    Marcos Alejandro, or “Mike”

    It seems that Herr “Doctor” Bingham was a real bad cat

    ”chairman (whom I assume to be the then Acting Governor, although I may be wrong as to this) observed that he had been “struck” by the number of objections received from members of the public, an observation which caused members to agree that “there was little support for (the Applicant) in the community”. In the event, Executive Council agreed that the application should be denied on the following basis, which I set out in full:-
    Large number of objections received.
    Gained entry into the Islands by way of lying about his qualifications to Falklands Conservation.
    He pretends to hold a doctorate from a genuine University.
    The University in question is Shelbourne University and has been described by the Irish Minister of State for Education has been entirely bogus.
    That Mr Bingham has deliberately set out to bring the Falkland Islands into disrepute in an international forum, namely the International Penguin Conference in Chile in November 2000 by misrepresentation.”

    Oct 17th, 2016 - 02:44 pm - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Islander1

    Think - I did say I thought Gib had similar - yes indeed anyone in those BOTs can also nominate anyone from their land for their BOT medal of same name - each Territory has their own.
    Falkland Islands Executive Council receive the nominations - and they decide. Doubt if they would consider nominations form another country though, why would they even if that person sent for an application form - unless it had a lot of local backing as well! Do be realistic old fella.
    You do seem to have a grump today.

    Oct 17th, 2016 - 03:51 pm - Link - Report abuse +5
  • Kanye

    Mr Alejandro,

    Are you the Applicant refused Falkland Island status, below?

    “The Applicant asked me to find that the application for Falkland Island status was refused in reality because of the applicant’s political views. Further, it is said that the decision was made on the basis of irrelevant, unconstitutional and illegitimate considerations – that is, the applicant’s political or scientific views”

    Oct 17th, 2016 - 04:10 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Think

    Nope me dear Kelper Islander1

    What you did say was...:
    “Rogers Medal has nothing to do with any other British territory other than the Falkland Islands and nothing to do with any British controlled Administration.*** IT IS RESTRICTED JUST TO THE FALKLANDS - HENCE ITS NAME**** , although I think Gib has their own separate version.
    *** WINNERS ARE NOMINATED BY THE GENERAL PUBLIC HERE IN THE ISLANDS - ....”

    What your British Central Government says is...:
    “ANYONE can nominate a person for the award and nomination forms are available on request from the office of the Falkland Islands Legislative Assembly in Gilbert House, Stanley.”
    https://www.gov.uk/government/world-location-news/nominations-invited-for-falklands-award

    I say...:
    “ANYONE”, it says... as in...: “A-N-Y-O-N-E”...
    Meaning...: “ANYONE”, not only Kelpers...
    Mr. Roger Lorton whas the official candidate from the Falkland Islands Association “Charity” in London, England... and the mayority of votes for him came from there...
    The Falkland Islands Executive Council just rubber-stamped Londons choice...

    By the way, Mr. Lorton, if you are reading...
    ...Congratulation with that Colonial honour instituted 88 years ago to premiate loyal and valuable service by native chiefs and other sepoys of non-European origin within the British Empire...

    Oct 17th, 2016 - 04:27 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • James Marshall

    Think.....“The Certificate and Queens Badge of Honour continues to be awarded in Gibraltar, the Falkland Islands, the Cayman Islands, and Bermuda.”
    All of them BRITISH Overseas Territories...
    “BRITISH”, it says... as in...: B-R-I-T-I-S-H...

    Yup, you read it here, Think has finally got the message.

    Oct 17th, 2016 - 05:33 pm - Link - Report abuse +5
  • Lord Lucan

    Think? Replace one letter and you get Thick which just about sums him up. A nabo.. or a pismelling?

    Oct 17th, 2016 - 06:26 pm - Link - Report abuse +8
  • Briton

    We can join forces with Argentina,” he told the Argentine state news agency Télam. “The day will come when all those responsible are going to have to answer for the crimes against humanity which they committed????????????????

    A great statement, If indeed it was aimed at RUSSIA over the crimes it is committing over and in Syria,

    But unfortunately these cowards are more interest in taking aim at lost causes and stealing what is not theirs,

    Still,
    As long as Britain is Great, the islanders have nothing to worry abt,
    Great Britain has nothing to worry abt,

    Yet somehow one thinks,,,,that Argentina will have a big headache if she keeps pushing.

    Oct 17th, 2016 - 06:50 pm - Link - Report abuse +6
  • Roger Lorton

    Think, the threat to that old arsonist was that I'd remember him. He threatened to complain to the police. I provided their telephone number. Hadn't realised those old Welsh fire raisers from the 60's were still alive.

    I seem to recall terrorists having more bottle than to threaten to call the police :-)

    Oct 17th, 2016 - 10:22 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Englander

    Tinker put all his chips on show in one go.
    Well done laddie.
    Anyway ... this is all fake... We are all going to be best of friends, just as soon as the sensible Argies can find a reason to drop the absurd claim to our Falkland Islands and surrounding maritime space ......just a matter of time....mark my words.

    Oct 17th, 2016 - 11:00 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Think

    Mr. Lorton...
    Mind your steps..., tread lightly..., laddie...
    We wouldn't like to bring the “Charity” into disrepute... Would we?

    Oct 17th, 2016 - 11:23 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Islander1

    Think- actually Roger Lorton,s work is well know and well regarded here in the Islands - his name- put in by UK resident Islanders and supporters received a good level of local support - hence it was awarded.

    Where do you get this ancient Colonial crap about an 88yr old award from?
    This award is barely 10yr old since started here in the Falklands.
    So glad you agree we are British.

    Oct 18th, 2016 - 02:37 am - Link - Report abuse +6
  • Marcos Alejandro

    I would like to add my congratulations to the englishman Mr Junius Lorton for the Queen’s Certificate and Badge of Honour he was awarded :-)

    Oct 18th, 2016 - 02:55 am - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Roger Lorton

    “Charity” Think? Lost me there old 'un. As I understand it, the award was totally “in-house” in the Falklands and the FIA took no part. They certainly didn't get to vote, which rather proves that - yet again - you have no idea what you are talking about.

    I met a few of the FIA for the first time at this year's Reception at Lincoln's Inn (pink champagne & nibbles, not a decent ale or pie in sight). My main impression was how tall they all were - possibly I was not as well fed as I thought when being dragged up on the outskirts of BirmingBrum? Still, some interesting characters. Met Shackleton's grand-daughter amongst others. Pleasant people. Not certain about the pink champagne.

    Thank you Islander 1, I was very honoured when the award was announced. And thank you MoreCrap - I shall accept your compliment in the way it was intended. Awaiting the ceremony, and indeed, the lunch.

    And yes, the Falklands have only taken up the award a few years ago.

    Oct 18th, 2016 - 05:37 am - Link - Report abuse +5
  • Usurping British Pirate

    They would not even know about the tests unless we told them

    Oct 18th, 2016 - 12:10 pm - Link - Report abuse +5
  • Think

    Islander1
    You ask...:
    “Where do you get this ancient Colonial crap about an 88yr old award from?”

    I Say...:
    From page 297 of the 1979 volumes 18 &19 of “Orders and Medals: The Journal of the Orders and Medals Research Society”
    ... If not disponible at Puerto Estanley Library..., you could try at..: http://www.omrs.org
    Or here...: http://www.omrs.org

    Mr. Roger Lorton...
    Sorry laddie, but you have never been a reliable source of information about anything remotely related with the Malvinas Issue...
    A jingoistic Engrishman like you, that says...: “I want to defend the Keplers right to decide their own futures”... whilst, at the same time publicly threathens Taffies that want to decide their own futures...

    ... If you don't mind..., I will continue using me usual information channels...

    Oct 18th, 2016 - 02:24 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Lautaro

    What is it like jingoistic Engrishman? And who is Taffies? Is it like Spaniard usurpar? Those rockets look good.

    Oct 18th, 2016 - 02:39 pm - Link - Report abuse -4
  • Marcos Alejandro

    Mr. Junius Lorton, are you going to get the queen's magic wand too? You will needed to keep rewriting history old archer.

    Oct 18th, 2016 - 03:56 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • Think

    Sr. Marcos Alejandro...

    Did you read the comment section of the following link...:
    http://jacothenorth.net/blog/time-to-show-appreciation-of-international-relationships/

    A true verbal “Royal Beating” our dear Mr. Lorton got from them northern hemisphere Welsh...!

    No tiene desperdicio!
    Saludos
    El Think

    Oct 18th, 2016 - 04:15 pm - Link - Report abuse -4
  • Marcos Alejandro

    Sure did Mr. think, Mr. Junius Lorton visit to that site reminds me when Farage visited Scotland not too long ago :-)

    Oct 18th, 2016 - 05:57 pm - Link - Report abuse -4
  • Think

    ;-)))


    Mr. Islander1...

    You could..., eventually..., also use me much beloved Wikipedia..:

    “The Badge of Honour or Queen's Certificate and Badge of Honour is a civil award presented by the governments of British Overseas Territories. Established in 1928, it was presented to recognize loyal and valuable service by native chiefs and other....”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Badge_of_Honour

    Oct 18th, 2016 - 06:27 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • Kanye

    Mr Think is particularly jealous of Mr. Lorton's award.

    Award initiated in 1928, however, as Mr. Lorton states,

    “And yes, the Falklands have only taken up the award a few years ago”

    More lies and sour half-truths from Mr. Think.

    Oct 18th, 2016 - 08:48 pm - Link - Report abuse +3
  • Hepatia

    England will return the Malvinas within 25 years.

    Oct 18th, 2016 - 10:48 pm - Link - Report abuse -5
  • Roger Lorton

    Think - while the award has been around a long time, I understand that the FIG only started to grant it some 5 years or so ago. As for your sources of information, I rather suspect that they are merely your imaginary friends. Listening to the voices in your head hardly counts as 'resources.' Sadly, willful blindness to reality and facts appears endemic amongst the Argie population. Such a pity when myopia can be so easily treated with a little research.

    As for the accuracy of my work MoreCrap, it speaks for itself. Hence the need for over 3000 damned footnotes citing sources from both sides. Of course, if you've never read it - and you obviously haven't - then you'll never know.

    Hepatitis - you're sick lad. Get help.

    Oct 18th, 2016 - 11:35 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Marcos Alejandro

    Mr Junius Lorton

    Not true, I do read what an English teacher wrote some years ago..

    The British Empire

    “Three years later, the British did formally leave the islands and they passed into the Spanish Empire for the next forty years. This arrangement was formally recognised by the British in the 1790 Nootka Sound Convention by which Britain formally rejected any colonial ambitions in 'South America and the islands adjacent'. It also reflected a weakening of British power in the Western Hemisphere coming shortly after the embarrassing loss of the 13 colonies partly thanks to French and Spanish intervention.

    The Spanish claim on the islands would falter with the South American Wars for Independence at the start of the nineteenth century. The Spanish removed their formal representative and settlers from the island from 1810 and completed it by 1811. The islands were left to their own fate for the next decade as sealing and whaling ships might call in from time to time to take advantage of the harbour and fresh water. It was not to be until 1820 that the United Provinces of Rio de la Plata would send a frigate to the islands in order to assert their control as part of the legacy of post-colonial Spanish claims to authority there. Buenos Aires would appoint their first governor in 1823 who tried to limit the whole-scale slaughter of seals which were in danger of being made extinct on the islands. A penal colony was also established on the island”

    Oct 19th, 2016 - 02:34 am - Link - Report abuse -5
  • Kanye

    Another time-wasting red-herring from Mr “Marcos Alejandro”

    No link, right?

    Probably no response either.

    What a dork.

    Oct 19th, 2016 - 04:29 am - Link - Report abuse +1
  • HughJuanCoeurs

    Poor old Hepatia. Again with the old “England will return the Malvinas within 25 years” BS.
    #1 Yes, we have no Malvinas...
    #2 England doesn't have the wherewithal to return the FALKLANDS (please learn the difference between “England” and “The United Kingdom of Great Britain”
    #3 The United Kingdom of Great Britain won't be returning the Falklands to Argentina without the express wishes and permission of the Falkland Islanders
    #4 It ain't going to happen

    Oct 19th, 2016 - 06:43 am - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Roger Lorton

    MoreCrap - Nootka did not apply to the Falklands, the Western Islands of which were already British.

    Oct 19th, 2016 - 11:37 am - Link - Report abuse +5
  • Think

    Islander1...

    You say...:
    “This award is barely 10yr old since started here in the Falklands.”
    I say...:
    It is “barely” 23yrs since you started serving some decent Fish & Chips in them Islands...
    Bt that doesn't mean that decent chippers didn't exist elswhere, me dear Malvinocentric Kelper...
    (By the way... You people should try it with “Remoulade”... Yummy...)

    You say further...:
    “So glad you agree we are British.”
    I say...:
    I have ALWAYS said you are British...!
    Bloody British squatting pirates..., that is...
    That's the only chip in the shoulder I have against you, good Island folks...

    Oct 19th, 2016 - 04:06 pm - Link - Report abuse -6
  • Pugol-H

    @ Marcos Alejandro
    “Adjacent” would refer to islands like Island of TDF, Navarino, possibly even
    Estados.

    However the Malvinas are certainly not “adjacent” to S. America, in any use of English now or then.

    The use of the word in that treaty, actually excludes the Islands from the terms of that treaty.

    The Anglo-Spanish treaty of 1771 is relevant because it proves three things (when you read what it says outside of Argentina).

    1. The British claim is much older than Argentina, in any form.

    2. The British always rejected the Spanish claim.

    3. The Spanish had to accept that.


    The 1790 Nootka Sound Convention is completely irrelevant.

    Oct 19th, 2016 - 06:05 pm - Link - Report abuse +6
  • Roger Lorton

    How can the Islanders be “squatters” Think? Britain's claim goes back to before 1765. No, if you'd been talking about the Argie “squatters” in Patagonia, I could have seen the sense of it.

    Quite right Pugol-H, ”adjacent' means less 100 miles according to international law.

    Oct 19th, 2016 - 10:54 pm - Link - Report abuse +6
  • Pete Bog

    Roger Lorton. Is it untrue that the UK government gave £31 million development aid after 1982, that was administered by the Falkland Islands Development Corporation? And the Islanders deserved it for the neglect that the UK Government showed before 1982. I'll try and find a reference to cite.

    Oct 20th, 2016 - 06:25 pm - Link - Report abuse +3
  • Roger Lorton

    Pete Blog - I would certainly be interested to hear about it as I do not believe that it is correct. An initial assessment of the damage to the local infrastructure are around 3 million. I shall also ask. :-)

    Oct 20th, 2016 - 11:04 pm - Link - Report abuse +2

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