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“Gibraltar forms part of the UK”, British ambassador Manley tells Spanish media

Tuesday, October 25th 2016 - 12:13 UTC
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Gibraltar will be included in whatever deal the United Kingdom negotiates to leave the European Union, Britain’s ambassador to Spain has said. Simon Manley made the comment during a wide-ranging interview with the right-wing Spanish newspaper ABC, during which he also made clear “there is no turning back” from Brexit. Read full article


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  • Voice

    “Gibraltar forms part of the United Kingdom,” Mr Manley told the newspaper.”

    Well, pay UK taxes then....

    Oct 25th, 2016 - 02:01 pm - Link - Report abuse -5
  • Brit Bob

    Garcia Margallo has said he wants to see the Spanish flag flying over the Rock.

    Then tell us about Spain's claim?

    Gibraltar - Some Relevant International Law:

    Oct 25th, 2016 - 03:20 pm - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Brasileiro

    Gibraltar is Spanish, look at the map. Who thinks it is not, it is because they still live in the Victorian era.

    Must be very corrupt with money buried on that piece of rock.


    Oct 25th, 2016 - 03:32 pm - Link - Report abuse -6
  • Pugol-H

    Well, that’s pissed on Margallo fireworks.

    Britain is leaving, Gibraltar as part of the UK is also leaving and there is nothing Spain can do to stop that.

    Threaten to veto some non-existent future overall trade deal, is all poor old Marg can do.

    Otherwise, bi-lateral agreement and qualified majority voting issues he can do nothing about, unless it physically enters Spanish territory.

    He knows the stakes economically for Spain, his bluff has been called and he doesn’t have a card in his hand.

    Apart from his “discussions with personalities in Gib”, which we now know were a bunch of Macaques.

    Oct 25th, 2016 - 03:43 pm - Link - Report abuse +4
  • DemonTree

    @ Brasileiro
    I looked at a map; it said 'Gibraltar (UK)'. That doesn't look very Spanish to me.

    Best wishes,
    Pirate DemonTree

    Oct 25th, 2016 - 05:55 pm - Link - Report abuse +5
  • Briton

    Spain faces international condemnation as it prepares to refuel Russian battle group heading to bomb Aleppo

    Some say that Spain should choose between Russia And NATO,
    Some allies are very worried about Spain cosying up to Russia,
    and a member of Nato,

    Oct 25th, 2016 - 07:16 pm - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Brasileiro

    You must return the Rock, the good of the world.

    Oct 25th, 2016 - 07:52 pm - Link - Report abuse -7
  • Voice

    You must return Brasil to Portugal...
    ...for the good of the world...

    Oct 25th, 2016 - 08:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marti Llazo

    Voz sez: “ Well, pay UK taxes then....”

    In that case, the eastern side of Tierra del Fuego should be returned to the UK, due to the considerable exemption of the argies there from Argentine taxation.

    Oct 25th, 2016 - 08:07 pm - Link - Report abuse +3
  • DemonTree

    It's true, Brazil was part of Portugal more recently than Gibraltar was part of Spain. Like, 100 years more recently.

    You don't mind rejoining Portugal, right, Brasileiro? I'm sure they'll totally respect your way of life and as a bonus you get to use the Euro!

    Oct 25th, 2016 - 08:52 pm - Link - Report abuse +3
  • Brasileiro

    I never denied Portugal. You deny Spain!

    Oct 25th, 2016 - 09:18 pm - Link - Report abuse -6
  • Marti Llazo

    Brasileiro “ Gibraltar is Spanish, look at the map”

    Guatemala is Mexican, look at the map.

    Cuba is American, look at the map.

    Alaska is Canadian, look at the map.

    Bulgaria is Turkish, look at the map.

    Basurero Brasileiro is an asshole, look at the map.

    Oct 25th, 2016 - 09:27 pm - Link - Report abuse +7
  • DemonTree

    @ Brasileiro
    You want to be Portuguese? Don't you like being independent?

    Oct 25th, 2016 - 10:20 pm - Link - Report abuse +3
  • Clyde15


    Learn some history. Gibraltar was ceded to Britain in the reign of Queen Anne, over 100 years before the Victorian era. This would make it the 18th century.

    Oct 25th, 2016 - 10:49 pm - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Marti Llazo

    @ Briton

    “Some allies are very worried about Spain cosying up to Russia...”

    Spain cosied up to Russia in 1936-1938.

    It didn't turn out well.

    Oct 26th, 2016 - 02:50 am - Link - Report abuse +4
  • sceptic64

    #1: Gibraltar is not 'exempt' from UK taxation. We pay taxes to our own government because the UK believes its BOTs should have maximum self-government. FYI, personal tax rates here are virtually identical to those in the UK. Furthermore, remember 'no taxation without representation'? We have no representation at Westminster.

    If you're talking about places within a country with favourable tax rates though, let's look at Ceuta, Melilla and the Canaries: all VAT free, with many exemptions from Spanish taxes such as inheritance tax. Pot: kettle....

    Oct 26th, 2016 - 08:44 am - Link - Report abuse +5
  • tezza

    In the very unlikely event Spain got its brutish hands on Gibraltar, apart from an exodus of business, a Spanish crime rate and corrupt policemen... there is the very real danger that Spain will allow the Russian navy to dock in a Royal Navy dockyard, refuel them and generally piss on its NATO allies.

    Oct 27th, 2016 - 01:29 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Pete Bog


    Ceuta is Moroccan, look at the map.

    Oct 27th, 2016 - 01:51 pm - Link - Report abuse +3
  • Marti Llazo

    As one of my professors at university in Spain used to say [referring obliquely to the Spanish government], “Africa begins at the Pyrenees....” (he was repeating a common enough expression well known in Spain). That same professor was the author of a well known textbook but as a condition of publication he was forced by the Spanish government censors to change his christian name because it didn't sound “Spanish enough.”

    Spain is African, look at the map. And the history. And the behaviour. And the DNA.

    Oct 27th, 2016 - 04:07 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • DemonTree

    Marti, what country are you from, if you don't mind me asking?

    @ sceptic64
    If Spain get their way about leaving Gibraltar out of any EU deal (which I don't think is very likely), would you want to officially become part of the UK so they'd be forced to include you?

    Oct 27th, 2016 - 06:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • tezza

    @demontree, I live in Gib too, I'd love for it to be officially part of the UK, one in the eye for Spain

    Oct 27th, 2016 - 06:16 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Briton

    You must return the Rock, the good of the world
    [ we did, but you Spanish keep throwing it back, with other little rocks, ]

    I live in Gibraltar too, I'd love for it to be officially part of the UK,

    I believe this has been mentioned a few times, but for reasons [government ] they wish to remain as they are,

    but my own opinion is that Gibraltar and the Falkland's should be a part of great Britain and send MPs to Westminster ,
    as it would be harder for Spain and Argentina to claim them, if they are a part of us,
    at least in the short term,

    but it is not popular with the people I hear,
    but it is just an opinion.

    Oct 27th, 2016 - 07:19 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Marti Llazo

    DemonTree ---- “Marti, what country are you from, if you don't mind me asking?”

    --- Martí és un prenom català, que ve del nom Martinus, derivat de Mart (déu romà de la guerra). Un nom molt comú a Catalunya (però no tan comú a Gibraltar). I el cognom Llazo, és a dir el nick.... una invenció que només es veu com una frase popular en castellà i significa “cop de martell .”

    Oct 27th, 2016 - 09:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    @ Marti Llazo
    I don't speak Catalan, but I call tell that doesn't quite answer the question. You can have a name from a certain country without actually being from there.

    @ tezza
    Just to annoy Spain? Wouldn't it make a difference to Gibraltar too though? I think the Gib government currently has more powers than the Scottish one, for example.

    Oct 28th, 2016 - 08:37 pm - Link - Report abuse +1

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