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Argentine Congress approves special pensions scheme for Malvinas veterans

Thursday, November 17th 2016 - 12:12 UTC
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The Argentine Senate unanimously (58/58) passed a bill with a special pensions' scheme, described as exceptional and optional for those citizens who were involved in the Malvinas war. The vote was cheered by the veterans present at the session's discussion. Read full article

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  • Captain Byron

    So the idea of performance related pay hasn't reached Argentina yet? It must be the first time the 12000 ex POWs have had something Falklands related to cheer for a while. A great incentive for the next time - surrender and we'll reward you anyway.

    Nov 17th, 2016 - 02:01 pm - Link - Report abuse -4
  • Marti Llazo

    @CaptB - Remember that the Obama government promoted (from E3 to E5) and increased the pay for the deserter Bowe Bergdahl while he was an honoured guest of the Taliban.

    Nov 17th, 2016 - 03:59 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • Captain Byron

    I guess they had to give him the benefit of the doubt until they had a chance to actually talk to him, fair minded it seems. Having done so he's due for court martial next year.

    Nov 17th, 2016 - 10:37 pm - Link - Report abuse +4
  • NosTrolldamus the 16th

    So then i must assume all the Vietnam veterans, and the Iraq war veterans of USUK (pun intended), have not and will not be receiving any war pensions, based on performance.

    Nov 18th, 2016 - 01:49 am - Link - Report abuse -6
  • Clyde15

    I presume that this pension will include all the citizens who were cheering and burning British flags at the start of the invasion.....mass involvement.

    The Argentinians surrendered en masse....the Americans and British did not in the conflicts you quote.
    So zero performance pay for Argentine troops. At least they did some fighting.

    Your “navy” should be handing their pay back to the state for their miserable efforts.

    Nov 18th, 2016 - 10:59 am - Link - Report abuse +3
  • DemonTree

    Since when have pensions ever been directly related to performance?

    If the soldiers surrendered when ordered to then that *is* doing their jobs. If they weren't ordered to do so then they would usually be in some degree of trouble, possibly including losing their benefits.

    As for the Iraq war, the war was a success militarily speaking. It was the rebuilding afterward that failed, you can't blame the soldiers for that.

    The story was about pensions for civilians in any case, I really don't understand why that makes sense.

    Nov 18th, 2016 - 11:35 am - Link - Report abuse +2
  • NosTrolldamus the 16th

    Oh really? Guess what, the mission of the soldiers in 82 was to “retake” (invade and occupy) the British Falkland Islands, not to hold them perpetually or be at endless war with the UK, since the calculation was the UK would not fight. So the troops did their jobs. They were ill equiped, trained, and mentally prepared for a protracted war.

    Again double standards, what else is new.

    And the terrtible behavior of British troops against unnarmed civilians in Iraq is tantamount to surrender under honor code. So no pensions.

    Nov 18th, 2016 - 12:10 pm - Link - Report abuse -7
  • DemonTree

    Not really. The mission of the actual invasion force was to take the islands, and as I understand it they did their job competently enough. The original mission of the majority of the troops who where landed there afterwards was to provide enough of a show of force to persuade Britain not to try to retake them. The fact this failed was the Generals' miscalculation, not the fault of the soldiers.

    Once the war actually started, their mission was to defend the islands as best they could, and since as you say they were ill-trained, under equipped and, apparently, ill-treated by their own leaders, most of them didn't do a very good job. But as long as they did their best and followed orders then why wouldn't they be eligible for pensions?

    As for the Iraq war, surely crimes against civilians are much worse than surrendering? I don't know if the punishments can include losing their pension though.

    Nov 18th, 2016 - 01:06 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Zaphod102

    In spite of all of the ongoing posturing about the Falklands, the Argentine soldiers were treated very badly when the returned. Many were conscripted, but when they returned many had lost their jobs through no fault of their own and they got zero assistance. Unsurprisingly, the suicide rate has been high.

    Good for Macri, he is finally helping these poor buggers who have been ignored by previous administrations.

    Nov 18th, 2016 - 06:17 pm - Link - Report abuse +3
  • Think

    Anglo Turnip above insulting the name of Zaphod the fourth, says...:
    “Good for Macri, he is finally helping these poor buggers who have been ignored by previous administrations.”

    I say...:
    What, in the name of the great Nutri-Matic Drink Synthesizer has Mr Macri to do with this judicial procedure?

    https://www.fiscales.gob.ar/fiscalias/dictaminaron-que-una-pension-para-ex-combatientes-debe-cobrarse-desde-1982/

    Nov 18th, 2016 - 08:03 pm - Link - Report abuse -4
  • Enrique Massot

    Agree with Zaphod.

    Long overdue, some recognition to those who were used as cannon fodder by the Argentine military junta and then lived to see this day.

    Nov 20th, 2016 - 01:55 am - Link - Report abuse -3
  • Marti Llazo

    Reekie fails to recognise this as a diversion from the more appropriate concern for the way the country is augering in.

    Remember the number one rule for governance of the argie masses:

    When something just isn't working, throw a bone to the Falklands illness, and all your ills will be momentarily forgotten.

    Nov 20th, 2016 - 03:14 am - Link - Report abuse +3
  • Think

    Mr. Enrique Massot

    Long overdue indeed ...

    But remember that the above mentioned piece of legislation was designed and presented by the Kirchner administration in 2013/14...

    ERGO...: “Render unto Macri the things which are Macri's; and unto Kirchner the things that are Kirchner's”.”

    Not as Anglo Turnip Zaphod102 does...

    Nov 20th, 2016 - 09:30 am - Link - Report abuse -3
  • Marti Llazo

    @tinkle

    2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015 Kirchner attempts to distract masses with rah-rah about the Falklands to divert attention from domestic failures

    2016 Macri government attempts to distract masses with rah-rah about the Falklands to divert attention from domestic failures

    Same failed card, different failed day.

    Nov 20th, 2016 - 12:22 pm - Link - Report abuse +4

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