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Opposition governors give thumbs down to electronic vote reform for 2017

Friday, November 25th 2016 - 15:53 UTC
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Argentine province governors of the opposition Justicialist (Peronist) Party now embodied in the Kirchnerite Victory Front (FpV) Thursday instructed their representatives on the national Senate to vote against President Mauricio Macri's proposal for an reform that would include electronic voting tickets. Read full article

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  • pgerman

    As expected, peronism is always opposing changes and advances.

    They rejected the use of electronic banking summaries, they rejected Uber and now this rejection. To reject the double control that implies a ballot with electronic chip is another example that the peronism does not want a transparent, and safe, electoral processes.

    Peronism, as always, “delaying” the clock. That is why Argentina began its delaying process with the rise of peronism and today, today Argentina is 70 years behind schedule !!!

    Nov 25th, 2016 - 04:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Voice

    Hackable....

    Nov 25th, 2016 - 04:49 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • pgerman

    How is that a “doble security” system (paper and chip) is weaker than a “single security” system (only paper)?

    The proposed system is not an electronic vote is a ballot that includes a chip so both, paper and chip, work together to make the count safer.

    Nov 25th, 2016 - 05:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Enrique Massot

    The first and practical consequence of implementing the electronic vote in Argentina would have meant fat contracts for selling and implementing expensive equipment for the whole country.
    The current government being formed by a team of CEOs, it's not difficult to guess the above goal was firs and foremost in President Macri's mind when enthusiastically endorsing the new system.
    Contrary to pgerman's claim above that electronic voting means “progress,” the system as it is has been questioned as unreliable, subject to tampering or failure, implemented in some countries and later dropped.
    There were suggestions of trying electronic voting in a limited way, but Macri insisted in forging full steam ahead...losing face in the process.
    The setback happens in a week in which more negative numbers show a deepening of a growing economic crisis that is increasingly isolating the government, as economists so far friendly begin to distance themselves from the Macri administration.

    Nov 25th, 2016 - 05:25 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • pgerman

    @Enrique

    Firstly, the system proposed is not an “electronic vote” at all it just a printed ballot that includes a chip so the count can be made easier and faster. As a result in less than ten minutes, even before the candidates and parties can move “their soldiers” the first subject to confirmation count is made and informed to the public. The second, final and only legally valid count is made physically as usual. So there is no more chances of cheat at all. It is just to the contrary: two security measures in parallel work much better than only one security measure.

    Secondly, and finally, it would great if you can explain to us why is that you prefer a weak, and jurassic, ballot system than an improved and safer one. Argentina is using the same system as in year 1853......

    Nov 25th, 2016 - 05:39 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • ChrisR

    As long as any problems result in the 14M Peronist scum being disenfranchised it can only be considered a fair result.

    Remember all the fixes TMBOA tried?

    Nov 25th, 2016 - 07:07 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • DemonTree

    @ ChrisR
    So you are in favour of electoral fraud now? How hypocritical.

    Nov 26th, 2016 - 12:21 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • ChrisR

    @ DT

    The peronist movement in The Dark Country has been the biggest single force TGW TMBOA in making the country the complete mess it is today.

    Have you never hears of the concept 'guilty by association;, it's even in the bible?

    Unless this cancer is cut out or irradiated Argentina doesn't have a long term future.

    The Peronists have done more for electoral fraud than you can imagine. How naïve.

    Nov 26th, 2016 - 06:35 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Bisley

    Introducing computers into the electoral process is a guarantee of increased fraud. Whoever has, or can gain, access to the system can manipulate the votes from anywhere, without having to create, destroy, or tamper with actual ballots.

    Nov 26th, 2016 - 10:05 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Enrique Massot

    @chris
    Again, Chris come to our rescue by informing us that Peronism is a “cancer” that must be “cut out” or “irradiated.”
    How democratic. Or is democracy an occasional system to be used when convenient only?
    Anyway. If we eliminate Peronism who are we left with?
    Macrism?
    Good grief!

    Nov 27th, 2016 - 09:39 am - Link - Report abuse +2

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