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Argentina to spend over $ 40 billion on military equipment

Tuesday, December 13th 2016 - 11:01 UTC
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President Mauricio Macri has approved the purchase of airplanes for the Air Force, patrol vessels for the Navy and armored vehicles and combat rifles for the Army, it was announced Monday to give the Armed Forces back some of their lost firepower, Defense Minister Julio Martínez revealed. The total purchases will surpass 40 billion pesos (2,500 million US dollars), the minister added. Read full article

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  • Marti Llazo

    “President Mauricio Macri has approved the purchase of airplanes for the Air Force planes....”

    “The idea is to buy two finished and another two that will arm in Tandanor to take hand Of local work. ”

    “.....which replaces the 7.62mm caliber FAL caliber.”


    Insightful writing. We've come to expect it from MercoPiss.

    Dec 13th, 2016 - 01:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Voice

    No mention of the canoes? How about drones? Oh, I see Argentina has enough of them already!

    Dec 13th, 2016 - 02:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Rufus

    Slight mismatch between the headline “$40 billion” and the text “40 billion peso” (= USD 2.5 billion), spread really quite thinly:

    Rifles and armoured vehicles for the army
    Patrol vessels for the navy
    Aircraft for the air force

    Bearing in mind that the capability sustainment programme for the Warrior infantry fighting vehicle is roughly half of the announced Argentine total investment.

    Dec 13th, 2016 - 03:09 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • southernspur31

    Since 1800s England had an upper hand in Argentina,UK controlled until 1947 all the production of goods in the country.Most of the farms and ranches were in the hands of british families .The UK knows Argentina better than USA and the CIA together.
    Until the late 50's the british had a good understanding with Argentina both commercial and defense agreements.I can't see how obtuse are the british and save money letting the pseudo called ARGIES ,deal with the Falkland's and let business run its course.
    India and Pakistan made so much trouble and destruction on the way against the UK and still very friendly ,India kicked the british technicians out of their armed forces and brought the Russians ,and lost a lot of revenue from the deal.Wake up UK.

    Dec 13th, 2016 - 05:45 pm - Link - Report abuse -7
  • Zaphod Beeblebrox

    “The Air Force lost 72 aircraft during the 1982 Malvinas War and almost 100 during the Kirchner years due to lack of spare parts.”

    ...and Macri will buy 12 training and 4 transport planes.

    I'm just wondering what angle the Kirchneristas will use this to spin these facts into some sort of Macri failure.

    Dec 13th, 2016 - 06:17 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Briton

    And where is Argentina going to get $40.billion from,
    the fairies perhaps,

    with the price of decent military hardware nowadays,
    Argentina would have to approach Air fix Industries to see if they could do a couple of cheap deals,
    like two for one offers on 2nd hand bi-planes, 25 pounders-buy two get the third half price

    or two rowing boats cheap, with a free upgrade to premium and get 6 life jacket free,

    And a good sense of humour wouldn't go a miss,lol

    Dec 13th, 2016 - 08:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marti Llazo

    southernspurious “..... in Argentina,UK controlled until 1947 all the production of goods in the country....”

    How absolutely laughable! But this is the nature of Peronist education.

    Dec 13th, 2016 - 10:28 pm - Link - Report abuse +4
  • darragh

    Here you go Argentina:-

    www.thrillist.com/cars/sea-harrier-jump-jet-for-sale

    and only $1.5 million

    Dec 13th, 2016 - 11:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • southernspur31

    Marti Llazo ,my father used to work for a concern (British Families) used to handle 7 farms and 2 big ranches ,he was hired in the USA and he worked until 1947.
    When these families sol out the properties ,but the families made a lot of money during the war because most of the production was going towards the AXIS FORCES .
    MONEY DOES NOT HAVE NATIONALITY

    Dec 14th, 2016 - 12:41 am - Link - Report abuse -5
  • Marti Llazo

    southernspurious “..... in Argentina,UK controlled until 1947 all the production of goods in the country....”

    Spurious, do you have any idea how many Ford vehicles were produced in Argentina prior to 1947? Did you know that the Ford that produced those vehicles was not British?

    Did you know that Hispano Argentina Fábrica de Automóviles S.A. (HAFDASA) was not a British company nor was its production controlled by the British ? Do you know how many autos, trucks, tractors, spare parts and whatnot were produced by this company prior to 1947?

    ¿Sabías que Siam Di Tella fue una empresa argentina no sujeta al control de los británicos? ¿Sabías que antes del año 1947 Siam di Tella llegó a ser la industria metalmecánica más grande de Sudacamérica?

    The list is long. Very long.

    You really need to learn something about the history of Argentine industrial production.

    Dec 14th, 2016 - 01:23 am - Link - Report abuse +5
  • Fidel_CasTroll

    Money down the drain. Take the northern border for example, this proposal would be like trying to use a few discount bandages to plug hypothetical cracks at Itaipu.

    Might as well use that money to build new houses on higher ground.

    You should only have a military if you can defeat all possible enemies, otherwise, you are just using cash to light campfire.

    Dec 14th, 2016 - 01:24 am - Link - Report abuse -4
  • gordo1

    Why does Argentina need to buy this equipment? For defensive purposes only, I trust!

    Dec 14th, 2016 - 06:24 am - Link - Report abuse +3
  • Marti Llazo

    @G1: “Why does Argentina need to buy this equipment? ”

    One explanation is that it needs to quickly increase its deficit spending and hasten the arrival of the next default.

    It is also reported that some of the purchases are intended to be a slap at the latest incarnations of peronismo, which in the last ten years was unable to complete a single new 1960s-technology aircraft in the home-grown national aircraft industry, in spite of the billions spent or rather misspent.

    Another explanation is that the country is so overrun with drug trafficking and fisheries violations, and so bereft of any capability to do anything about it, that the country has become an even greater hazmerreír desdentado than previously expected.

    Of course, if you listen to fidelito, it's pointless to have a military unless “you can defeat all possible enemies....” A position that is hardly the policy of real nations.

    And then again, it's always possible that Argentina will return to its standard policy of aggression and employ its many camporista tactical sailboats in a new attempt to seize the disputed provinces of West Idiopia and once again fill the Plazoletta de Mayo Nessa with its cheering Camicie Nere.

    Dec 14th, 2016 - 09:41 am - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Fidel_CasTroll

    You contradict yourself within adjacent lines. You yourself said the north is overrun with mules, so what will a couple of overpriced foreign metal scraps that could not fight out of a mid-air fight with a drone I can buy at Mendoza Plaza Shopping, do?

    Better use it on drug prevention campaigns, and education. Besides, Argentina should not fight the wars EUian and NorthAmoan meth, crack, and dope heads should be fighting themselves. They are the rotting teeth junkies, not Argentines.

    Dec 14th, 2016 - 10:54 am - Link - Report abuse -5
  • DemonTree

    @FC
    It's true the war on drugs has been fairly disastrous in all the countries that have tried. But letting these gangs get a foothold in the country will also be pretty unpleasant - it looks like drug use has been rising since the drug traffickers started using the country for transit, and they also bring other crime.

    It would probably be better for Latin America to just legalise the drug trade, but I can't see this happening any time soon. Most drug policies around the world make no kind of sense.

    Dec 14th, 2016 - 01:20 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Marti Llazo

    Fidelito,

    Article: “The 10p cocaine byproduct turning Argentina's slum children into the living dead ”

    Article: “Argentina police seize rice 'impregnated with cocaine' en route to Europe”

    Article: “Argentina- 25 percent of Latin America’s entire cocaine consumption”

    Article: “Argentina’s cocaine consumption is highest in region”

    Article: “How Argentina Became the Newest Drug Trafficking Hub”

    Article: “In 2008, Argentina surpassed its neighbors and the United States: it now has the highest prevalence of cocaine use in the Western Hemisphere....”

    Article: “Europe Has Argentina To Thank For All That Cocaine”
    y en cristiano:

    Nota: “ Argentina es el país con mayor consumo de cocaína en América del Sur”

    Nota: “Argentina ocupa el primer lugar de todo el continente americano en cantidad de 'usuarios' del adictivo alcaloide”

    Nota: “Argentina, encabeza el ranking en consumo de drogas, alcohol y tabaco en América latina”

    Nota: “ 'Liderazgo' argentino en el ranking de consumo de cocaína entre estudiantes de nivel medio”

    Nota: “La cocaína: €4 euros el gramo en Argentina”

    Dec 14th, 2016 - 01:25 pm - Link - Report abuse +4
  • southernspur31

    My father worked with 2 famous families in Argentina,both families did not reside in Argentina.He lived in Argentina for 14 years in General Belgrano ,Chascomus and San Martin de los Andes ,and please do not get annoyed (Guido Di Tella was a friend of mine) and several former secretaries of state in Argentina.My relatives lived in the country for several years and I am not adding anything that I do not know.
    Such as deals under the table and so on.
    Argentina a rich country but with the wrong people at the helm .
    Figure it out ,the british developed a railway system very well equipped ,communications and mass transportation,
    Do you think 'am against the british??????
    No,Argentina had a chance to let the brits run those systems and we'll be well off today

    Dec 14th, 2016 - 04:34 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Voice

    Of course Marti will be annoyed...
    Marti is the self appointed expert on all things Argentine and Chilean...History, Geography, Economics, Politics..
                                   ...from Spain...

    Dec 14th, 2016 - 05:50 pm - Link - Report abuse -6
  • Marti Llazo

    @southernspurious “Argentina a rich country but with the wrong people at the helm .”

    Concuerdo.

    “...the british developed a railway system very well equipped ,communications and mass transportation,....”

    You get additional points here for recognising that this was a British effort and not “inglés” - something that most of those “wrong people at the helm” here are unprepared to understand.

    That rail system that was mostly capitalised by the British (90 percent of it British investment, about 10 percent French) eventually grew to almost 100,000 km of rails and was perhaps the single most important element that made Argentina's economy successful (well, for a while, until about 1930, when efforts toward nationalisation of the railways began). But it was not just British capital and railroads that made that economy successful, but British management, other British technologies (including the early refrigeration systems and animal husbandry), British shipping, and significantly, British markets. Even the British practice of driving on the left prevailed, until 1945. The UK made Argentina not just successful, but wealthy. For a while.

    By the 1930s Argentine government regulation, along with other factors that included increased highway vehicle transport) had reduced railroad profitability to the point that investment in infrastructure was decaying. And Argentine railroads have been in decay ever since. Peronist nationisation of the railroads in the late forties increased the certainty of decay and by the time Frondizi came along it was time to start dismantling the largest rail system in all of Latin America. Today Argentine rail is a shadow of its former self. The lack of adequate rail infrastructure now results in quite high road transport costs and is one of the many factors that keep Argentine products non-competitive.

    Dec 14th, 2016 - 07:25 pm - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Kanye

    'Bagger Think/voice

    “Of course Marti will be annoyed...
    Marti is the self appointed expert on all things Argentine and Chilean...History, Geography, Economics, Politics..
    ...from Spain...”

    Supposedly, you are the self appointed expert

    ...from Scotland

    Dec 15th, 2016 - 05:32 am - Link - Report abuse +3
  • Voice

    Still boring as either Kanye or Troy Tempest...

    Dec 15th, 2016 - 11:33 am - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Fidel_CasTroll

    You got to love Marti Llazo, typing fake headlines about Argentina being a country of drug junkies, he believes, will somehow magically make Europeans and North Americans and his own countrymen, British, non-junkies.

    Notice how Marti Llazo NEVER disputes anything that I say about other countries, he just tries to deflect by trashing Argentina some more. Hahahahaha.

    Dec 16th, 2016 - 07:27 am - Link - Report abuse -3
  • ElaineB

    @TTT To be fair you do the same. A bad headline about Argentina and you immediately state something bad about 'Anglos'. I remember you stating that pedophiles didn't exist in Argentina but you don't respond to my remarks about the pedophile ring exposed in Mendoza recently.

    Dec 16th, 2016 - 09:38 am - Link - Report abuse +5
  • Marti Llazo

    @E

    Over the winter (our winter) there was an article here on some of the paedophilia conditions in Argentina. The article concluded with mention that “there aren't enough jails” to deal with the violations. The conditions described sounded remarkably like those anywhere that social media have significant influence. The article cites an estimate of about 100,000 social media accounts in Argentina being associated with paedophilia-related activities.

    Article title: “Se denuncian 20 casos diarios de pedofilia en Argentina”

    If you wish to read the article, in jibberjabber:

    http://www.eltribuno.info/se-denuncian-20-casos-diarios-pedofilia-argentina-n729495

    Actually the media here seem to have frequent reports of the usual sort of cases involving paedophlia and priests, commercial sales of related material, and the same sorts of things you read about in far more civilised nations.

    Then just a few days ago there were national media articles about the lynching of a paedophile musician who had been released from prison after serving 8 of the 30 years of his sentence. Evidently he was in a musical group playing in a church when several people and beat the bejeezus out of him, from which he died in hospital some days later. Title of that note was “Linchan en una catedral a músico condenado por pedofilia en Argentina” It's too bad that fidelito can't figure out how to look up these articles - we could teach him a few things about the country.

    I wonder if the paedophilia ring in Mendoza that you mentioned was related to the priests arrested in connection with the deaf-mute school? One of the articles on that was “Curas pedófilos en Mendoza: los docentes del colegio Próvolo se despegaron de los abusos” and here “Más denuncias de abuso sexual en un instituto religioso de Mendoza investigado por el Vaticano.”

    Dec 16th, 2016 - 12:10 pm - Link - Report abuse +5
  • Fidel_CasTroll

    All the pedophiles that do exist in Argentina have clearly been influenced by EUian and Anglo cultre:

    - The recent cases of priests, clearly thee religion and culture they practice if of Latin EUian origin.
    - The cases in the past of child abuse in small communities in the south of Argentina (though the most notable case was that of the most inaccurately christened “Colonia Dignidad”), Villa Baviera today, were all in cultural settings of Germanic EUian origin.
    - The recent arrests in the internet pedo-ring at the local level, many of the main honchos were based in the UK with constant travel to Caribbean nations and Southeast Asia... so clearly Anglo EUian origin.

    All the cases here in Argentina have roots in the cultures of Europe, and I sustain that there is something in European culture that is far more prone to pedophilia and serial murderers (these mainly in northern European nations), and sheer corruptability and lack of sense of meritoriousness (mainly in southern European nations)

    Dec 17th, 2016 - 12:58 am - Link - Report abuse -5
  • Marti Llazo

    Fidelito,

    And what are the argentos? Italians who speak Spanish and wish they were French.

    Dec 17th, 2016 - 03:33 am - Link - Report abuse +3
  • Fidel_CasTroll

    You didn't “desmentir” my statements. Again.

    Read about Colonia Dignidad (which I did forget to mention is in Chile), but the point remains: virtually all pedophilia cases in this part of the world have some root in some EUian imported cultural artifact.

    Dec 17th, 2016 - 03:58 am - Link - Report abuse -5
  • Kanye

    Mr Nostrils is clearly saying that Argentines and himself (presuming that he actually IS Argentine) are not to blame for their culture of excesses of pedophilia and child rape, as it is not their fault and they cannot be expected to know better.

    Dec 17th, 2016 - 06:11 am - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Lightning

    We seemed to have been taken off topic by this troll, FIDEL.

    CFK and her narco-pals made sure they could run their narco-economy without interference, by emasculating the airforce and navy that would otherwise be able to patrol and intervene.

    Now we have the pro CFK trolls “ideologically” protesting the re-arming, negligent as it is.

    Dec 17th, 2016 - 06:20 am - Link - Report abuse +3
  • Marti Llazo

    Fidelito, your ignorance and lack of education is truly appalling, even for an argentine. Your suggesting that paedophilia is somehow uniquely European is classic nonsense. If you knew the first thing about anthropology you'd notice that no only is it found universally and independently of European influence, but in some places it was and in some cases still is considered culturally acceptable. The Inca empire, for example, exhibited some rather unusual examples, and though your argentinismo may deny it, Inca control and influences reached some of what is now Argentina.

    Dec 17th, 2016 - 01:52 pm - Link - Report abuse +3
  • golfcronie

    Briton
    The Chinese company AMK models manufacture fantastic plastic models in fact probably better than Revel, in fact so good that they could be photographed and sold as real.

    Dec 19th, 2016 - 11:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0

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