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Argentina to propose a Schengen space to promote regional tourism
Argentina aspires to become the back bone of an integrated Mercosur with the Pacific Alliance, said the country's Tourism minister Gustavo Santos attending the International Tourism Fair, Fitur, taking place in Spain. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesI am an isolationist so this seems madness to me, but if you go through with this I would hope you also keep the other promise Macri just made yesterday to close the borders to immigrants with criminal records.
Jan 18th, 2017 - 12:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If you close the frontiers to immigrants with criminal records, where will the next generation of kirchneristas come from?
Jan 18th, 2017 - 01:11 pm - Link - Report abuse +2The flaw in the last poster's question being he belives I am a Kirchnerista.
Jan 18th, 2017 - 02:20 pm - Link - Report abuse -1If you close the borders to anyone with criminal records how will any Argies get out?
Jan 18th, 2017 - 03:20 pm - Link - Report abuse +1False premise, fidelito, but further evidence of your characteristically argentine lack of reading comprehension skills.
Jan 18th, 2017 - 03:37 pm - Link - Report abuse +21. The “if you” phrase is impersonal and rhetorical, and not intended to refer to anyone in particular. It could be rephrased in the subjunctive as “If the frontiers were closed ...” Si fueran cerradas las fronteras.... O sea, no tiene nada que ver con vos.
2. “where will the next generation of kirchneristas come from” in no way suggests that any particular forero will be supplying the dregs and refuse of humankind, but asks again in a rhetorical sense where such rabble might be found for the future.
Fidelito, you really need some help in understanding what is written. Actually you and reekie both seem to suffer from similar symptoms of comprehension deficiency, so perhaps a remedial reading course could be made available to both of you.
@ML
Jan 18th, 2017 - 08:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You're seriously slamming him because his reading comprehension in a second language isn't perfect? Is there anything you don't complain about?
@DT Actually I think we need to sign you up for that reading comprehension class as well, along with some courses in history and economics.
Jan 18th, 2017 - 09:27 pm - Link - Report abuse +2@ML
Jan 18th, 2017 - 09:54 pm - Link - Report abuse +2Feel free; I'm always happy to learn more.
Alternatively, you could try being a little more understanding and a little less negative.
Different names....same scripts and posts. Does it ever get old, or is this life after 70?
Jan 18th, 2017 - 11:35 pm - Link - Report abuse +1No Pops...it's called life...
Jan 19th, 2017 - 12:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0A generation goes, and a generation comes,
but the earth remains forever.
The sun rises, and the sun goes down,
and hastens to the place where it rises.
The wind blows to the south
and goes around to the north;
around and around goes the wind,
and on its circuits the wind returns.
All streams run to the sea,
but the sea is not full;
to the place where the streams flow,
there they flow again.
All things are full of weariness;
a man cannot utter it;
the eye is not satisfied with seeing,
nor the ear filled with hearing.
What has been is what will be,
and what has been done is what will be done,
and there is nothing new under the sun...
Ahhhhh Voice (as opposed to THE VOICE), getting the vote moving in Scotland? Life must be on the upswing and positive there. Over here? We're preparing for a new world fiefdom, If Putin allows “the Donald” free range of his decisions.
Jan 19th, 2017 - 12:11 am - Link - Report abuse +2It's a show that doesn't stop giving if you don't mind me saying so Pops...
Jan 19th, 2017 - 12:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0We are all waiting with bated breath watching the news for the next thrilling instalment...
Spies, Sex, Espionage you have it all...
The US has never been so popular...;-)
Hollywood, Washington, Broadway....the difference is? My wife, a Portena, says Trump is our Kirchner. He is even moving the White House press corps out of the White House. Everyone on MP kept saying, she (Kirchner) will never finish her term, now, we are saying it here. He's such a big, fat lying, unethical pig, we can only up that his high LDL will put him in his place.
Jan 19th, 2017 - 11:38 am - Link - Report abuse +3Christ and the GOP who stopped the Democrats in the past for less, are so bad. Non payment of taxes, questionable stock trades and the list goes on.
The Kremlin is the new White House
Who was the ferocious, anti Russian poster claiming to be an American, yet a Trumpeter? We never see him anymore. Do you suppose with all that anti Russian sentiment combined with being a Trumpeter he will ever post again?
@ CP Which one are you talking about? We have had a few Trump worshipers also insulting the Russians. I think they may be too confused by events to post coherently.
Jan 19th, 2017 - 01:25 pm - Link - Report abuse +2I was talking to some friends in D.C. the other evening and we reached the same conclusion that whilst we didn't always agree with the politics of whoever was in the White House we still had respect for the office. That respect has gone.
Give it time, CP, and people will realise they were conned by the snake oil salesman. Though, sadly, politics has become so like a sport in the U.S. that they would probably still support him. In that I am reminded of the Italian adage., “You can change your wife, you can change your religion but you can never change your football team”. For the U.S. insert 'You can never change you political party'. Trump once said that he could go onto 5th Avenue with a gun and shoot a random person and his supporter would still vote for him (they are that stupid). Now that is SAD.
What with so many cupboards full of skeletons and a bull in a China shop modus operandi Trump is certainly going to get impeached at some point. He probably won't last that long. However, he has surrounded himself with lots of crafty advisors who may deflect him from excesses. Have to wait and see…
Jan 19th, 2017 - 02:28 pm - Link - Report abuse +2Returning to the original subject of the article:
Jan 19th, 2017 - 03:29 pm - Link - Report abuse +2The idea of some accelerated crossing of frontiers here should be seriously considered, at least between CL and AR. After all, it's taking up to 10 hours at times for mendocinos and other argentines to cross into Chile for their shopping. Speeding up the frontier formalities would allow them to buy their 200-inch LED televisions and decent clothing at the “shoppings” in Santiago (de Chile) much more efficiently. And I'd personally prefer not to have to wait so long at the crossing at Monte Aymond.
Elaine, I have faith and some things like politics change slowly, like an aircraft carrier. I am fairly comfortable in my believe the the mid terms will deal a catastrophic blow to the GOP. In fact I always felt that if Trump did win, it would be merely a short term breath of fresh air for the GOP, but in the mid to long term, one of the final nails to their coffins.
Jan 19th, 2017 - 03:44 pm - Link - Report abuse +2Interesting that Trumps budget director dd not know to pay “nanny” taxes yet he will run a financial role. Not to mention GOP held democrats feet to the fire over that same exact issues and nominees where forced to pull out. Or buying stocks of a company a week prior to introducing a bill that directly benefits that company. A potential Sec.of Education who wants guns in schools, defund public education and will find a way to keep the poor out of “elite” schools yet still have vouchers.
These next two years will be a nightmare. When do we get to start blaming them, the GOP? How long did they wait with Obama?
@ CP The documentary makers have been having a field day over here digging up the dirt on Trump. There is a lot to dig up.
Jan 19th, 2017 - 05:58 pm - Link - Report abuse +2@CP
Jan 19th, 2017 - 06:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I wouldn't rely too much on the midterms if I were you. In the Senate there are 23 seats held by Democrats up for election, plus two independents who work with them, and only 8 held by Republicans. Even if Trump is the biggest disaster ever, a large swing in the Senate is impossible.
@4
Jan 20th, 2017 - 02:27 am - Link - Report abuse -3Your excessive dissection of what is an extremely simplistic post is bemusing, and you then you dress it up as an attempt to belabor my “reading” skills, which are just fine.
You think I am a Kirchnerista, and that has nothing to do with your “If you” grammatical explications.Since the article DID NOT discuss the proposals just made my Macri to crack down on immigrants with criminal records, then it WAS a safe assumption to make that your “impersonal subjunctive” was anything but impersonal.
You may read English just as a well as I do, but your logical processing of the information therein is far below grade.
But, you are not me; I'm an American, embarrassed, but still an American. Trumps election was impossible as well.
Jan 20th, 2017 - 02:55 am - Link - Report abuse +1Your wife says Trump is a Kirchner, I have said he is a CFK for months here (before the election), after the Election La Nacion alalyst said he is the same. Recently CNN made a comparison to CFK...
Jan 20th, 2017 - 03:06 am - Link - Report abuse -1So WHERE ARE ALL THE CFK haters here who professed to only hate her policies? Where are they now on Trump? Who has said will tear up treaties, intimidates PRIVATE enterprises, wants to impose restrictions on money sent out, wants to impose tariffs, threatens the free press, is loud-mouthed... any of these remind you of someone??
If those attributes were so bad on a certain ex-president, why are the good on a future one?
@TTT
Jan 20th, 2017 - 09:43 am - Link - Report abuse +4The comparisons of Trump's populist stance and CFK's have been around since he started campaigning. The irony of some posters who would constantly attack CFK but support Trump has not been lost, we can see it and have remarked on it. But that is not ALL posters. You do tend to lump together everyone who is not Argentine.
Just to clarify, I despised CFK and her policies. I despise Trump and probably will dislike his policies once we know what they actually are. Don't think for one moment that his election promises are likely to become policy. He has already been walking back on most of them.
CFK and Trump share a lot of qualities. Both are in it for personal enrichment and all about themselves. Both know how to sell to the most vulnerable and stupid. They know how to tap into prejudices and to rule by division.
TTT, I never had you as a CFK supporter. You only really defended her because she was your President but you also criticised her corrupt administration.
Trump has no policies. His policy is to get into an argument with anyone, from wounded veterans, to women, to children, and always emerge the victorious “tough guy”. If the opponent proves he/she an fight back, just resort to saying ever more outrageous, outlandish, insulting statements, until the other side, usually far more sensible and intelligent, can no longer “one-up” him lest risking themselves becoming outrageous. That is why Trump can't ever back away from confrontation, it feeds his ego to win. Then he needs to find a new one.
Jan 20th, 2017 - 10:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0His policies are based on what he feels the majority does not want. He just likes to be contrarian to prove he can be. A total loser and starting tomorrow I have no qualms about calling the USA a laughing stock, just as so many foreigners and foreign media did with Argentina in the CFK era.
Why go down to their level? You can criticise Trump without attacking the whole US, he didn't even get 50% of the votes.
Jan 20th, 2017 - 10:23 am - Link - Report abuse +1“Why go down to their level?”
Jan 20th, 2017 - 10:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0Revenge?
And wait when Farrage gets the keys to 10 Downing...
Your desire for revenge is understandable, but aren't you doing the same thing? Should I try to get revenge on you for attacking Britain?
Jan 20th, 2017 - 11:13 am - Link - Report abuse -1If Farage ever becomes Prime Minister, I'm moving to Argentina.
@ fidelito “...a laughing stock, just as so many foreigners and foreign media did with Argentina in the CFK era....”
Jan 20th, 2017 - 12:49 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Just as the entire world and several neighbouring planets still do, post-CFK and always. O por lo menos una manga de ladrones.
So Marti, you wouldn't go back to Singapore because you might get arrested but still feel you've got enough moral height to constantly call all of us a bunch of thieves?
Jan 20th, 2017 - 02:27 pm - Link - Report abuse +2@TTT
Jan 20th, 2017 - 03:01 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Lying and bullying is all trump knows. But since you didn't really support CFK's style of politics haven't you already had your revenge? I mean, Trump is about the worst thing that could happen to the U.S. and the world right now. Argentina is embracing some sensible policies. Why not sit back and enjoy?
@taradoFin
Jan 20th, 2017 - 03:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No fui yo,sino el sabio vecino: “Los argentinos son una manga de ladrones, del primero hasta el último” No lo olvidás. Es el lema que aparece en el nuevo escudo nacional.
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@E “Argentina is embracing some sensible policies”
A thimble-full of sensible policies, in a following sea of counterproductive institutions.
“Why not sit back and enjoy?”
-- In much the same way I enjoyed watching Hitchcock's 'Psycho.'
I'm just under the impresion that you love and agree with that phrase, am I wrong?
Jan 20th, 2017 - 03:29 pm - Link - Report abuse +1@TTT
Jan 20th, 2017 - 05:21 pm - Link - Report abuse +1There you go, Trump just gave a Nationalist and Isolationist speech that could have been written by CFK. There is your revenge on the U.S.
Returning to the original subject of the article...
Jan 20th, 2017 - 07:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Basically an excellent idea for the promotion of regional AND international tourism...
Specially if our proyect with Norwegian goes through this year...
BCN-BUE-BCN for 249€
Happy Days...!
Let's just say that Batlle was an extraordinarily insightful fellow at times. Or rather, he had a gift for expressing the obvious.
Jan 20th, 2017 - 07:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Let's just say that Batlle was an extraordinarily insightful fellow at times”..... says the Anglo Turnip above....
Jan 20th, 2017 - 11:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Extraordinarily insightful”.., how...?
- By calling his own Argie mother and his own Argie wife and mother of his own three children thieves...?
How rare it is to find a politician such as Battle who can be both insightful and brutally honest.
Jan 21st, 2017 - 01:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0Sounds more like a turnip to me...
Jan 21st, 2017 - 12:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Everything seems like a turnip to you, tinkle, including the turnip in the shaving mirror.
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