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CIA 1982 plan to hand Falklands to Argentina and relocate Islanders in Scotland
The population of the Falklands Islands could have been relocated to Scotland under a secret CIA plan, it has been revealed. United States planned to step in and hand the Islands to Argentina following the 1982 invasion, according to briefings rescued from the trove of 12 million documents published by the CIA on its website and discovered by the British media. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesAccording to british interstatal conflict resolution doctrine, every country is entitled to its natural borders.
Jan 20th, 2017 - 07:56 pm - Link - Report abuse -13I dont see any natural borders in Malvinas with britain. I see they are on Argentinas sea shelf
Argentina Lost the war and any claim it thought it had!
Jan 20th, 2017 - 08:06 pm - Link - Report abuse +7Utter rubbish,
Jan 20th, 2017 - 08:45 pm - Link - Report abuse +7it was an idea by the CIA not the US government,
and it was only considered by them,
president Ronald Reagan would never ever have gone against Maggie the Falkland's great Britain for the sake or corrupt Argentina,
then again some people will clutch at anything that may give them a glimmer of false hope.
LukeDug's statement is of interest. No doubt he supports the occupation of Cuba by the US. It is, after all, only 90 miles away from Florida,
Jan 20th, 2017 - 08:55 pm - Link - Report abuse +8LukeDig
Jan 20th, 2017 - 09:37 pm - Link - Report abuse +1¿A una distancia de más de trescientos kilómetros? ¡Qué nabo!
There were a lot of negotiations after the invasion weren't there? I wonder if this was one of the proposals to avoid the war, and if so which side would not agree to it.
Jan 20th, 2017 - 10:12 pm - Link - Report abuse -2It's just matter of time.
Jan 20th, 2017 - 10:42 pm - Link - Report abuse -9I wonder what happened to the secret CIA plan to give Shikotan to Japan? And the secret CIA plan to give Crimea to Russia? And the secret CIA plan to give the Sudetenland to Germany? And the secret CIA plan to give Chubut to the Tehelches? And the secret CIA plan to give Cuba to Quebec? And the secret CIA plan to give Panama to Colombia? And the secret CIA plan to give Ushuaia and Tolhuin to Latvia? Those CIA fellows, they are just so full of .... plans.
Jan 21st, 2017 - 01:36 am - Link - Report abuse +8Undated and obviously not followed. Hardly news at all.
Jan 21st, 2017 - 01:43 am - Link - Report abuse +6Marti Llazo is called the “Magic Man” in the southern Cone.
Jan 21st, 2017 - 02:58 am - Link - Report abuse -7He is the only known person to raise the IQ level of TWO countries, at the very same time!
When he leaves Argentina the average IQ immediately jumps up. And as he crosses into Chile, the IQ there also jumps up.
Win win for all!
Marquitos Alejandrito
Jan 21st, 2017 - 06:34 am - Link - Report abuse +2Exactly WHAT is only a matter of time? Or are you making the same stupid statement as Hepatitis? NABISIMO!
“Fidel_CasTroll
Jan 21st, 2017 - 06:40 am - Link - Report abuse +1He is the only known person to raise the IQ level of TWO countries, at the very same time! ”
Stupid boy!..... everyone knows that happens every time an Unzuder moves to Straya.
You are so un-original.
“It's just a matter of time”
Jan 21st, 2017 - 09:29 am - Link - Report abuse +2It's just a matter of time before a sufficient number of argentines come to their senses and recognise that the Falklands belong to the neighbours and that the neighbours do not wish to be argentine. At last count, the date for argentines coming to their senses has been conservatively estimated to be between 2086 and 2093, long after Chubut has been returned, with reparations, to the Tehuelches.
20-points that destroys Argentina's mythical Malvinas claim:-
Jan 21st, 2017 - 10:32 am - Link - Report abuse +3https://www.academia.edu/10490336/Argentinas_Illegitimate_Sovereignty_Claims
https://www.academia.edu/10490336/Argentinas_Illegitimate_Sovereignty_Claims
RIP .
CIA take note...
The CIA has plenty of form when it comes to meddling in the affairs of other countries. The list is long and their behaviour often questionable. They have even managed to upset President Trump.
Jan 21st, 2017 - 11:41 am - Link - Report abuse +3Therefore, the CIA is not the most credible organization in the world. Their motivation for supporting Argentina would have had nothing to do with the merits of its bogus sovereignty claim nor the rights of the islanders, but everything to do with the help it was receiving from the Argentine army in its nefarious activities in Central America.
But it seems that the CIA were geographically confused when they proposed to pay the Falkland Islanders US$100,000 per person to ‘relocate’ to an area of ‘British jurisdiction’ when they were already living in an area under British sovereignty.
It seems that the CIA’s 1982 plan for the Falkland Islands was an ill-conceived thought bubble that was well and truly overtaken by events.
The CIA said much the same about Gibraltar: http://www.gbc.gi/news/cia-believed-gibraltar-would-become-spanish-1983-document-reveals-34234
Jan 21st, 2017 - 11:59 am - Link - Report abuse +2Gibraltar - Some Relevant International Law: http://www.gbc.gi/news/cia-believed-gibraltar-would-become-spanish-1983-document-reveals-34234
Statement from the Falkland Islands Government.
Jan 21st, 2017 - 12:43 pm - Link - Report abuse +4“The recent articles in the UK press regarding suggestions the CIA might have had in response to the Argentinian invasion of our country, the Falkland Islands in 1982 are now, of course, academic.
It is reported the CIA thought the British Government had “underestimated” the Argentinian military capabilities and were unlikely to win a war 8,000 miles from home. The CIA also thought Islanders would agree to move to Scotland if offered $US 100,000 per person.
I am sure there were many opinions on all sides at that time as to what might happen but the only opinion that mattered was that of Prime Minister Thatcher and the only people who “underestimated” Her Majesty’s Forces were the Argentine Junta and, seemingly, the CIA.
The idea that Islanders would give up their homes and way of life for money simply shows how little people understood the Islanders at that time.
Due to the war in 1982 and our development since then, the World now sees the Falklands as we really are, a modern democratic country, self-financing and self-governing in all matters apart from defence; a situation acceptable to Islanders as shown by 99.8% support in our Referendum in 2013. For more information on the Referendum, please click on the following link: http://www.falklands.gov.fk/results-of-the-referendum-on-the-political-status-of-the-falkland-islands/. ”
And by the way, the Menem Government offered $1 million per head a few years later, and that didn't work either.
Perhaps the islanders should offer the CIA the tidy sum of US$0.17 per argentine currently residing in their colony in Tierra del Fuego (though this is admittedly overpriced), to have those implanted usurper somewhat-spanish-speaking yerba-sucking pirates moved to Jujuy, and then simply annex the eastern half of the island and nearby islotes to the present Falklands territory, since Tierra del Fuego is after all on the Falklands' own continental shelf. The provincial (in all senses) government of Jujuy would assure that the fuegian way of heavily subsidised life and culture would be respected by the jujeños. For at least 90 days.
Jan 21st, 2017 - 01:37 pm - Link - Report abuse +2This would be ultimately a far more equitable and historically defensible solution than any others that have been proposed to date.
First, this document is not a CIA plan. It was written by Henry Rowen, chair of the NIC, to Paul Wolfowitz, Director of Policy Planning at State. It has nothing to do with the CIA.
Jan 22nd, 2017 - 04:52 am - Link - Report abuse -4Second, this is not news. IIRC it is possible to find details of this plan from the Reagan Library. Also not news is the plan for the US and Brazil to occupy the Malvinas and return them to Argentina.
Either plan, if implemented would have worked towards the long term US goal of removing European colonial influence from America.
Hepatitis
Jan 22nd, 2017 - 06:35 am - Link - Report abuse +4You state “Either plan, if implemented would have worked towards the long term US goal of removing European colonial influence from America”
So the US is hoping to remove Argentina from America?
Hahaha, the fist “news conference” of the UNITED STATES government... a corner to corner CARBON COPY of a CFK media press conference?
Jan 22nd, 2017 - 07:52 am - Link - Report abuse -2No questions permitted.
Unfriendly media outlets not-allowed full access.
Threats, ire, and castigation of the government towards the media present.
And without questions being taken, a monologue from the official with numbers on the inauguration that would make a CFK INDEC director swell with pride. :)
And you are telling me these people did not study the Kirchners? It is an identical piecemeal strategy!
Even on Fox News they qualified Trump's speech as “pure DISTILLED POPULISM.”
This turn of events really is one for the ages... wasn't two two years ago those same people where laughing at Argentina over all of the above. And now?
:)
The US never accepted Argentine ownership of the Falklands:
Jan 22nd, 2017 - 10:20 am - Link - Report abuse +3In 1886 the Argentine government asked the United States to apply the ‘Monroe Doctrine’ to Britain’s presence on the Falklands and were told by the US Secretary of State that, ‘the resumption of actual occupation of the Falkland Islands by Great Britain in 1833 took place under a claim of title which had been previously asserted and maintained by that government. It is not seen that the Monroe Doctrine which has been invoked on the part of the Argentine Republic, has any application to the case. By the terms in which the principle of international conduct was announced, it was expressly excluded from retroactive operation.’ ( Report of Foreign Affairs submitted to the National Congress in 1887, Buenos Aires, 1887, p193-201).
(the Monroe Doctrine was US Foreign policy applying to Latin American countries that stated that the US would view any attempts by European powers to colonise or interfere with states in South America as aggression requiring US intervention).
The law of the time did not accept inheritance without settlement and stated that 'an unopposed settlement of some years was necessary” before sovereignty was accepted. (The Law of Nations, Vattel, Cpt XI, p337) Vernet had sought acquiescence from the British consul in Buenos Aires on two occasions before establishing “his” colonies and the British protested when he was appointed military and political governor by the BA. Authorities. Jewett had no settlement. The concept of uti possidetis juris (inheritance of Spain) is only customary international law, applicable to those who choose to use it. Great Britain, France and Brazil have never opted to use uti possidetis juris and UPJ has “never” be used in “any” court or tribunal without the consent of both parties. There is ample evidence that this has been the mode of applying / not applying UPJ over the past 150 years:
https://www.academia.edu/28967823/Falklands_Uti_Possidetis_Juris
All reports and intelligence have to be filed in the CIA (or any other like organisation) no matter how crazy...
Jan 22nd, 2017 - 02:43 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Alexander Haig, the US Secretary of State, also argued in favour of supporting Argentine occupation.
Jan 22nd, 2017 - 10:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I imagine that I could go to any city of the world and ask anybody on the street, “Of which government is the CIA an agency of”, and the answer would be the US. But it appears not in your case. So, and I ask this with a sense of trepidation, which government do you think the CIA is an agency of?
Jan 22nd, 2017 - 11:47 pm - Link - Report abuse -3Glad to see the CIA on their toes in 1982. Had their plan succeeded we might have seen the first public hanging of an American president, in London, since the arrest warrant for George Washington.
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