In his first meeting with a foreign leader, U.S. President Donald Trump spoke of the two nations' “special relationship,” and British Prime Minister Theresa May agreed, mentioning common economic interests and shared values, but pointedly saying the new president had pledged he is “100 percent” behind NATO. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesExcept the UK is not independent, it is the 51st state. Without representation.
Jan 28th, 2017 - 09:59 am - Link - Report abuse -2Look at what just happened.
May came out of that meeting endorsing all the positions of Trump.
Trump meanwhile? Nada.
And btw, major BS alert that no one notices.... because Trump's mother is from Scotland that means the UK gets special treatment? Well, imagine if Kennedy has said the same about Ireland... or Vatican City. Imagine if Obama had said that about Kenya!
It is that hypocrisy for which I fight the Anglo at every corner. Had a president been Muslim, Chinese, Japanese, or Mexican descent and said that, the WASP would be furious screaming corruption, nepotism, ethnocentrism!. But I guess it's OK here because it benefits them.
These people have no sense of honor, dignity, or honesty.
But at least now we know the UK really sides with a squatter like Trump's family. :)
@TTT
Jan 28th, 2017 - 10:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0The U.K. is an independent country and you are just talking nonsense. I don't know what press conference you were watching but Prime Minister May handled Trump perfectly. Not only did she get Trump to confirm 100% support for NATO but she also had Trump in line on Russia. I also thought our press were great. May picked out journalists she knew would pose difficult questions to Trump and why? To show him we have a free press.
At a news conference following the leaders' meeting on Friday in the White House, US President Taco Bello said Mexico is especially close to his heart because his mother was from Cancun
Jan 28th, 2017 - 10:33 am - Link - Report abuse -2Tell me, what would the reaction of the Anglos be?
What do you expect? It wouldnt bother me at all. Why does it worry you so much?
Jan 28th, 2017 - 11:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0I don't care, I am just pointing the hypocrisy that would inevitably occur if he was of Mexican descent.
Jan 28th, 2017 - 12:07 pm - Link - Report abuse -2I think the UK will get special treatment but the US will lose Europe in the process. I'd call that a bad trade.
You think that because you are incredibly petty.
Jan 28th, 2017 - 12:30 pm - Link - Report abuse +1US, UK, Canada, Australia, NZ and FI together for a prosperous and bright future.
You do care or you would not bother posting. He wants the EU to break up. He wants to destroy any trading bloc bigger than the US to gain advantage. Didnt you see how he won the nomination? He is a bully boy and he will come after So Am too. He will look to cause division.
Jan 28th, 2017 - 12:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0South America is far more grown up and won't divide in fact if anything Atlantic and Pacific regions are integrating, and in any event there isn't much Trump can do here. His decision to end TPP will bring the Pacific Alliance much closer to Brazil and Argentina's combined 3 trillion economy to partly compensate for the USA dropping out.
Jan 28th, 2017 - 02:02 pm - Link - Report abuse -3The region is far less dependent on the USA than Mexico, Canada, Europe, the UK, or Central America.
Puta Muerta, I wish you all the very best. I know that Latam countries are so corrupt, you will need to change your way of thinking
Jan 28th, 2017 - 02:19 pm - Link - Report abuse +2@Troll
Jan 28th, 2017 - 02:37 pm - Link - Report abuse +2Surely you'd be happy for South America to divide, so Argentina can live in glorious isolation?
I agree with Elaine that he wants to EU to break up, that's why he's supporting the UK. If the UK does better outside the EU then other countries will start thinking about leaving.
And I'm not convinced it would actually cause a bad reaction if he said Mexico or some other country was close to his heart. Depends if it was allied with the US or not.
I thought the UK just wanted to leave, but now they also want to undermine the EU?
Jan 28th, 2017 - 03:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If I am in the EU, why would I be even a little nice to you then.
I want isolation, but I also can't deny the reality that Macri government wants Argentina to integrate all over the world. I think it is a colossal mistake because the foreigners will try to destroy us again, but it's what this government is trying. Mercosur, Pacific, UK, EU, India-Argentina, China ,etc.
@TTT
Jan 28th, 2017 - 06:37 pm - Link - Report abuse +1The U.K. is paving the way for trade talks with the U.S. after leaving the E.U, it would be foolish not to. Think about it, the E.U. countries have been making all kinds of threats about dire consequences for the U.K. for leaving. It is important for the U.K. to foster good working relationships outside of the E.U. as well as with the E.U. to show them they don't have us in a weak negotiating position. There will be a lot of posturing over the next two years.
What is really annoying you is that you hoped the U.K. would become as poor and dysfunctional as Argentina. It is frustrating isn't it, to know that we have been trading for centuries and know how to cut good deals.
You are very cross today, you need your upcoming vacation.
Don't worry Vaca, Argentina will destroy itself without the help of us outsiders, you have been doing it for decades.
Jan 28th, 2017 - 07:55 pm - Link - Report abuse +1@Troll
Jan 28th, 2017 - 08:23 pm - Link - Report abuse +1No, it's Trump who wants to undermine the EU. The UK just wants to get the best deal possible. I'm not sure whether other countries leaving, or threatening to leave, the EU would be better or worse for Britain.
And the EU should be a little nice to Britain because they also stand to lose out if no deal is reached, and because we will all have to work together in future anyway.
But Elaine is right, it's extremely important for the UK to form good relationships with countries outside the EU now.
Nostrils, you are out of your depth. Its all about money. Get back to your Lego - clue, you can slot the bricks together to make toys.
Jan 28th, 2017 - 11:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Really? So out of my depth that in French, German, Italian, Spanish newspaper comment sections they are all say today what I said yesterday: May has thrown all of them under the bus.
Jan 29th, 2017 - 08:06 am - Link - Report abuse -2Go to English forums about European Union topics if you wish and see for yourself... They are pissed off. The UK basically just did Harakiri for their upcoming negotiations with the EUians.. :)
@TTT
Jan 29th, 2017 - 09:28 am - Link - Report abuse +1If you are basing your opinion on comments made in online newspapers you are already in trouble.
I have lost count of who you despise but I thought all people from the E.U. were on your hit list. Why are you so concerned about them now?
Which newspapers have you been reading CowTroll? I want to see for myself.
Jan 29th, 2017 - 10:28 am - Link - Report abuse +1Right on cue, as I predicted YESTERDAY here...
Jan 29th, 2017 - 01:34 pm - Link - Report abuse -2https://www.yahoo.com/news/under-fire-british-pm-may-criticizes-trump-curb-124457207--business.html
Even the conservative MPs saw what I saw: a feckless May leaving the meeting with Trump with a chocolate lip color she did not have goin in :)
One line by a British conservative MP struck me no matter how special the relationship is, some lines should not be crossed.
If May could not bring herself to criticize Trump about the Muslim ban (and also the way Trump tried to bully Mexico, which the UK should have also criticized given Mexico is a good friend of the UK), then what needs to happen for her to say something? See shipments of Zyklon-B from North Korea to the USA rise dramatically before she says something?
@TTT
Jan 29th, 2017 - 02:25 pm - Link - Report abuse +1You seem very confused TTT. Do you want the U.K. to buddy up with the U.S. and try to control Trump or do you want the U.K. not to form an alliance with the U.S. You seem to flip-flop. You constantly state that the U.K. is irrelevant and failed and should not act as a world leader and yet you seem to want the U.K. to police the U.S. Which is it?
Prime Minister May went to D.C. with certain objectives and she achieved them. Top of the list was to have Trump confirm his 100% commitment to NATO and she made sure of that by stating it clearly at the press conference. She also went to pave the way for a future trade deal. I am sure other subjects were discussed in the one hour of talks but you don't know what. The trade deal between he U.S. and Mexico is their business to negotiate.
What does need international comment is the U.S. ban on Muslims because call it what you will that is what Trump has done. Prime Minister May has commented on that.
@ElaineB
Jan 29th, 2017 - 04:42 pm - Link - Report abuse +1She has commented, but I wish she had done it sooner rather than being pushed into it (at least, it appears she was pushed). May does seem rather over cautious. At this point she may as well assume that Trump will attempt to carry out all his campaign promises, no matter how crazy, and prepare a response in advance.
@ DT
Jan 29th, 2017 - 09:38 pm - Link - Report abuse +1I prefer a PM that doesn't shoot from the hip. Trump rolled this out quickly, and without much thought or warning, catching people off guard. International politics is always a delicate animal to handle.
I am loving the backlash. it reminds me that there are more good people than bad in this world.
That online petition against the Trump State visit is increasing by about a hundred every few seconds...
Jan 30th, 2017 - 12:28 am - Link - Report abuse +2IF that is true then it shows how completely out of touch with the common people that head of state you have is.
Jan 30th, 2017 - 04:37 am - Link - Report abuse -1I don't get why she still is head of state... leave it to someone with more vigour and charm... oh, that's right...
@TTT
Jan 30th, 2017 - 08:38 am - Link - Report abuse +1How many times have I explained to you that we have a constitutional monarchy. The Queen does not decide who will be given a State Visit, it is decided by the government elected by the people.
You are not as bright as you think you are.
Agreed, but you are as dim and predjudiced as we have always thought you are.
Jan 30th, 2017 - 12:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0President Trump will play you jerks for the suckers that you are.
Jan 31st, 2017 - 12:20 am - Link - Report abuse -3Mr Voice
Jan 31st, 2017 - 12:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0That Drumpf/MacLeod petition has, as I write, reached some 1,6000,000 signatures...
2,343 from Argyll and Bute... (2.67% of 87,660 constituents)
Have you signed it...?
Not at all Mr. Think...
Jan 31st, 2017 - 01:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0I'm rarely swayed by media hype...
E-Petitions ain't no hype......, lad...
Jan 31st, 2017 - 11:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0They're the Voice of the future...
Like the electric telegraph...
The steam engine...
Or Benzedrine ;-)
The UK is not free. In fact Trump has explicitly referenced the laws of the UK as a model to shut down press freedom in the US. (This is yet another reason that I assert that Trump, and many Republicans, are fundamentally un-American.)
Feb 02nd, 2017 - 10:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And the UK is not independent. The very presence of the UK premier in Washington, DC, after having being summoned by the president to receive orders, is ample evidence of the dependence of the UK on the US.
This article would be regarded as a joke in any other media than that of a British propaganda organ. President Trump is trolling you Brits.
Where is this evidence of the dependence of the UK on the US...?
Feb 03rd, 2017 - 01:46 am - Link - Report abuse +2There is no trade deal yet...?
When was the last time the US or NATO defended the UK...? (That would be never)
Just what exactly is the US doing for the UK at the moment...apart from giving them a comedy show...?
The US may have a greater capability to propagate a war...ergo more power, but the UK still has the capability to launch a nuclear attack on ANY major city in the world with virtually no warning...
Where is this dependance...?
It is common sense to have powerful allies, but I seem to remember the last time the US asked for UK collaboration concerning Syria Parliament told them to fcuk off...
The US is not Free it now has a dictator...
http://en.mercopress.com/2017/01/28/a-free-and-independent-uk-is-a-blessing-to-the-world-and-our-relationship-has-never-been-stronger-trump-tells-pm-may/comments#comment460711: The UK has been a client state of the US since 1940.
Feb 04th, 2017 - 04:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0Would it be wrong of me to remind you that the only reason that your miserable little state exists today is because of the actions that the US took many decades ago and that, as a result, you are in eternal debt to the US?
Since you believe that the US is doing nothing for you then you can have no objection to the US withdrawal from NATO. Americans will be happy to hear that.
What do you propose to use to launch a nuclear attack?
The US used the UK in order to stay out of Syria. But it was not necessary to us the UK for that end. So, what is your point?
President Trump is a dictator only in the sense that he is going to dictate some relatively unpalatable courses of action to countries such as the UK. The party is over for you panhandlers.
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