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US Judge issues a stay temporarily halting Trump's deportation executive order
A US judge has issued a stay temporarily halting the deportation of visa holders or refugees under an executive order from President Trump. The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) filed a legal case early on Saturday in response to the order. The judge's stay prevents those “caught up” in the aftermath from being deported, the ACLU said. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesThis will be a good lesson for Trump; he is not above the law.
Jan 29th, 2017 - 10:25 am - Link - Report abuse -2I have listened to the debate on both sides of this and the Trump supporters are asserting that this is to prevent another 9/11. However, they could not explain why Saudi Arabia and Egypt are not part of the ban when they were the origin countries of the 9/11 terrorists.
Furthermore, since 9/11 24 U.S. citizens have been killed in the U.S. by Islamic terrorists but in excess of 13,000 are shot dead by other U.S. citizens every year. So explain to me the logic of the ban of Muslims, because that is exactly what it is.
Well Trump set the tone, they already started buring Mosques.........in the south. I am certain more will follow. This is how Trump will handle “THE MUSLIM PROBLEM”, push it to the brainless thugs. Even W had spoken out against vigilantism.
Jan 29th, 2017 - 02:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Is Bannon Trump's Joseph Goebbels?
@Elaine “....for Trump; he is not above the law.”
Jan 29th, 2017 - 03:25 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Which law was violated?
The Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965
Jan 29th, 2017 - 03:31 pm - Link - Report abuse +3@ CaptainP
Jan 29th, 2017 - 05:00 pm - Link - Report abuse +3Good stuff -- thanks
Damn I was kidding about Goebbels and Bannon. They removed the military from the NSC and replaced the JCOS with Bannon, Heir Goebbles. Now, there are in independent nor military people advising Trump on national security or national defense matters. The normal GOP better wake their asses up before Trump does some serious damage somewhere to this country.
Jan 29th, 2017 - 05:04 pm - Link - Report abuse +1@CaptP
Jan 29th, 2017 - 06:28 pm - Link - Report abuse +1“The normal GOP....”
Qu'est-ce que c'est ?
Loving the backlash against Trump. In the last year more U.S. citizens were killed by toddler getting hold of guns than muslim terrorists. What is Trump going to do about that?
Jan 29th, 2017 - 09:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So two mosques burn down and another shot up in 48 hours?
Jan 30th, 2017 - 05:56 am - Link - Report abuse -3Slow start my Fourth Reich denizens!
Bannon will be displeased. I suggest he roll out some more public services announcements:
http://caldwellscorner.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/goebbels.jpg
fidelito, even worse in Canada yesterday, and they don't even have a Trump
Jan 30th, 2017 - 10:42 am - Link - Report abuse +2https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/01/29/multiple-people-reported-shot-by-gunmen-at-quebec-city-mosque/
Maybe DT can start an online petition to prevent mosque attacks.
Now it begins in Tobi's country.....oh my. Hateful racists everywhere, of course, tobi is a racist him/herself.
Jan 30th, 2017 - 11:03 am - Link - Report abuse +1The one in Canada is the shoot up I was referencing. It's all North Amoland, same thing.
Jan 30th, 2017 - 11:33 am - Link - Report abuse -4I hope you Anglos are watching Youtube videos on proper Goose Stepping. Will serve you well very soon!
Trump didn’t select seven “Muslim-majority” countries. US President Barack Obama’s administration selected these seven Muslim-majority countries.
Jan 30th, 2017 - 02:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0some one is not being truly honest with the truth,
just something I saw, so I thought I would add it to the mix,
you guys know more abt this subject than little old me...
@ fidelito “It's all North Amoland, same thing....”
Jan 30th, 2017 - 03:36 pm - Link - Report abuse +2Argentina, Bolivia, same thing.
A Moroccan Muslim shoots up a Mosque........who would have thought.
Jan 30th, 2017 - 04:05 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Hey Tobi That North Amoland you hate so much protects your racist, angry ass.
@ Briton (though certainly not British)
Jan 30th, 2017 - 04:14 pm - Link - Report abuse -3When exactly did Obama sign the executive order banning muslims from the seven countries to the U.S.? What's that? No he didn't. It was Trump and you are one of the manipulated who believes the distraction tactics.
@Briton
Jan 30th, 2017 - 08:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Obama picked the countries for extra checks when he was President. But he never banned anyone. Trump used the same list of countries for convenience, and because his advisors told him an actual ban on Muslims would be illegal. You can't blame Obama for Trump's actions.
It will be interesting to see next years “corruption index”. Considering:
Jan 31st, 2017 - 06:08 am - Link - Report abuse -2- North Amoland now has a president who refuses to release his personal taxing.
- A government that on a daily basis (daily) intimidates the free press
- A government that has coerced and threatened multiple private enteprises
- A president that has appointed several family members to positions
- According to reports, a chief of staff that is “burning the paper trail” already, according to multiple sources
- A government that has made kickbacks to business owned by government members, or the president himself
You would think the USA will plummet some good 20-25 positions. If it does not, we know that this report it utter fake.
@DT
Jan 31st, 2017 - 09:18 am - Link - Report abuse -2Trump used the excuse of 9/11 for the ban but excluded Saudi Arabia and Egypt - the origin countries of the 9/11 terrorists - because he has business interests there.
He also used Obama's 7 countries that he choose as well, only Obama choose them for higher scrutiny.
Jan 31st, 2017 - 06:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I heard that the proscribed countries were chosen because they couldnt or wouldnt produce enough the travellers personal details to satisfy US Visa requirements.
Jan 31st, 2017 - 07:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Trump will get so tied up in legal knots at some point soon he won't be able to operate at all.
Obama originally chose 7 countries for stricter vetting of refugees, and I don't believe they were based on a straightforward risk assessment then, either. I suspect Saudi Arabia and Pakistan were left off because they are US allies. Not sure about Egypt.
Jan 31st, 2017 - 07:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Since Trump has banned all travel, not just the entry of refugees, and even banned duel nationals of allied countries, the list makes even less sense, and it's really impossible to believe the reasoning that The Voice mentions.
ElaineB
Feb 01st, 2017 - 01:27 pm - Link - Report abuse +2@ Briton (though certainly not British
[ WRONG AGAIN ]
ElaineB
When exactly did Obama sign the executive order banning muslims from the seven countries
[Wrong Again ]
I said- Barack Obama’s administration selected these seven Muslim-majority countries.
I did not mention banning anyone,
and you are one of the manipulated who believes the distraction tactics.,
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Algeria, Bangladesh, Brunei, Iran, Iraq, Kuwait, Lebanon, Libya, Malaysia, Oman,
Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Syria, United Arab Emirates, Yemen.
All the above ban entry to anyone with an Israeli passport.
Iran, Kuwait, Lebanon, Libya, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Syria and Yemen ban anyone with an Israeli stamp in their passport.
Hypocrisy is rife in all those that have a mad urge to jump on any passing bandwagon even it only has three wheels.
,
When exactly did Obama sign the executive order banning muslims from the seven countries
@Briton
Feb 01st, 2017 - 01:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What do you think of the USA, supposedly the land of the free, joining that list of countries barring entry to people with the wrong passport?
It's not hypocrisy to want your country to be better than Saudi Arabia and Iran.
You mentioned it, you answer it,
Feb 01st, 2017 - 01:45 pm - Link - Report abuse +2no country should ban anyone without a very good reason,
if you condemn one, then by definition you must condemn them all,
is this not true.
Actually you brought it up, Briton. But since you asked, I think the ban is against everything America used to stand for, I think it will increase anti-American feeling in Muslim countries, and especially make things more difficult for the US-allied government in Iraq. I also think it is unlikely to save the life of a single American citizen. And the comparison to your list of largely despotic and more or less dysfunctional countries is not a flattering one.
Feb 01st, 2017 - 02:50 pm - Link - Report abuse -2You are right that no country should ban anyone without a very good reason, and that is exactly what Trump has just done.
He is now exploring the feasibility of removing “work authorization” from ALL greencards. That affects my wife....this man is a stark, raving lunatic.There are almost 13 million in the USA......and top suddenly prevent them from working.....a madman.
Feb 01st, 2017 - 05:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We in the USA are broaching a Constitutional Crisis is in fact we may have already crossed that line. Rule changes are taking place left and right, quorums with opposing parties are no longer needed.
Th Executive Branch has already violated the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965 and now the legislative branch has runaway powers with hardly a majority. Trumps administrative will forever be known worldwide as the “dark years” of the USA.......like the McCarthyism period.
Geeeeeeeee....
Feb 01st, 2017 - 07:29 pm - Link - Report abuse -3Ain't that Yank poster just above not the same “Captain Poppy” poster that defends..., even aproves, Yankee extra judiciary executions, killings and renditions all over the world... in pursue of some unspecified “American Greater Good”?
And now he's whinging because a Yank president wants to make America Great again by putting the rights of Americans ahead of the rights of his Imported Alien wife...?
I kind of detect same Yank inconsistency in Captain Poppys doubletalk discourse...
DemonTree
Feb 01st, 2017 - 09:02 pm - Link - Report abuse +1I think we can both agree that although we may not like trumps policies in their entirety,
he will do what he thinks is right, and we brits don't really have a say,
p/s did you watch prim ministers questions today, I watch it every Wednesday,
may, told the house that Britain does not agree with some of his policies and definatly object to his [ ban ] Britain does not do this she quoted,
on this I think most if not all of us on here do not agree with the ban,
the American people in part voted for him, and good or bad will stay with his policies for at least 4 years.
Apples and oranges think.......please do not go out of your way to prove you are a turnip in a potato filed. Read my historical posts about Trump....never once did I have anything good to say about.
Feb 01st, 2017 - 09:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I want to see you reconcile what you are saying and how I am double speaking?
Maybe when I arrive next week in Argentina I can stop by and pay you a visit? Santa Cruz?
Captain Poppy...
Feb 01st, 2017 - 09:58 pm - Link - Report abuse -3Nothing personal but...
I would rather hammer my tumb (twice, if neccesary) than spending any time with a fella with your points of wiew about the value of human life...
Have a nice stay in my Country..., anyway...
EL Think..., Chubut..., Argentina.
By all means, hammer your thumb, although the pleasure would have been mine. Oh, and it is my country as well.
Feb 02nd, 2017 - 12:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0Didn't think you could reconcile your statement to me. Your age betrays your mind and you confuse me with that idiot yb.
May you soon be looking up at the roots and not down at the grass.
Captain Poppy
Feb 02nd, 2017 - 12:55 am - Link - Report abuse +2I am the one in Santa Cruz (province). Should be in town until about 10 february.
Tinkle is the one hammering his “tumb” (or whatever it is that he hammers) in that crime-ridden province to the north of us: Chubut. Or so he says.
I will mainly be in the city BA this trip, but I would have made a special trip for Think, he knows I would enjoy spending some quality time with him. I would truly enjoy showing him some things I've learned over the span of my career. However at the moment, I want him to reconcile my double speak as he says.
Feb 02nd, 2017 - 03:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Career?
Feb 02nd, 2017 - 03:29 pm - Link - Report abuse -1lol.
@Captain Poppy
Feb 02nd, 2017 - 07:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“He is now exploring the feasibility of removing “work authorization” from ALL greencards.”
Surely that can't be true? I haven't seen anything in the news and it would absolutely trash the economy. I have friends working in the US, and there I was thinking I only needed to worry about the ones in Europe.
@Briton
I think Trump's policies will be about as good for America as Chavez's were for Venezuela. The major difference is that Trump can do considerable damage to the rest of the world as well, and has already started to do so.
Of course you are right that we do not have a say, Americans will have to sort this mess out for themselves.
The Trump EO immigration halt *initially* covered green-card holders from the designated countries but that was later “clarified”.
Feb 02nd, 2017 - 07:35 pm - Link - Report abuse +4Persons who are legal residents (green card) from the designated seven countries will also be allowed to use the Global Entry programme which permits expedited entry at passport/immigration points.
Of course, all of that could change in the next fifteen minutes.
“Of course, all of that could change in the next fifteen minutes.”
Feb 02nd, 2017 - 08:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Exactly how not to run a country.
I work for a multinational, and this week we received an email warning us about travel to the USA, and advising people from the affected countries to delay their travel until further notice. It's the sort of warning we usually get about third world countries suffering from violence or unstable government.
On the other hand, if he really bans Green Card holders from working, it would be pretty crippling for the tech industry. I expect some big names would be looking to move elsewhere, and UK has plenty of talent, and really needs to attract investment and jobs...
DT it was in Tuesday's Post as someone leaked it. I can tell you that senior and flag officers are rabid over Trump.....he is making enemies in the DoD at a furious pace and Mattis is not exactly a happy camper either. Oh yea.......Treasury is easing restrictions on USA businesses doing business with the Russian FSB.
Feb 02nd, 2017 - 08:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The GOP better wake the fuck up or practice:
делать стрелять Я американец и скажет вам что-нибудь
delat' strelyat' YA amerikanets i skazhet vam chto-nibud'
I blame the DNC for being a fuckwade for that teasonous dictator for being in office. The are also voting to overturning restrictions that prevent mining companies from dumping pollutants in local streams. I am happy that I live in Massachusetts.........Those southern states when they can do anything.....explains the retarded intellect of those GOP southern states.......bad water ......see the Florida green river?
@ CaptPoppy
Feb 02nd, 2017 - 10:42 pm - Link - Report abuse +2Flint, Michigan. One of those Retarded Southern States.
Obama's EPA knew but kept quiet about their, um, tainted drinking water.
As I was addressing DT, Flint is west of me as you well know and of course, a municipality.
Feb 03rd, 2017 - 11:50 am - Link - Report abuse -1Ever been to Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, even Florida inner country? I have....thats where we tend to put bases, in the back wooded country.
The permanent residents are genetic experiments! You say you're from Argentina? I suggest you look up the GOP states with total control.
@CaptPoppy
Feb 03rd, 2017 - 01:27 pm - Link - Report abuse +2Actually, while doing some work many years ago on some spook-squirrel things I was invited to visit four rather significant US military bases: CMAFS, Schriever AFB, Peterson AFB, and Fort Carson, all just a stone's toss from a major city.
Apparently trump put the phone down on the Australian leader over Obamas agreement to take in refugees/immigrants from Australia and said NO,
Feb 03rd, 2017 - 01:54 pm - Link - Report abuse +2but then decided to accept the status quo
so he does and can change his mind, perhaps he is still learning the ropes.
The only air bases I ever saw in the USA were on Army FORSCOM bases and they were usually giving us a ride somewhere......Lawson, Pope, Wright and a few others.....in the US anyway.
Feb 03rd, 2017 - 05:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Air Force is a different breed of military, as is the Navy.
Hey Pops...
Feb 04th, 2017 - 12:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0How come the wife didn't opt for Yankee citizenship...? She'd surely get it..
She can...and will now.
Feb 04th, 2017 - 04:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0Mejor qué se apure....
Feb 04th, 2017 - 10:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0I didn't ask if she could get it...
Feb 04th, 2017 - 12:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I was curious, because... it would be a cold day in hell before I would opt for US citizenship even though I'd get it...
@voicey “....before I would opt for US citizenship even though I'd get it...”
Feb 04th, 2017 - 12:50 pm - Link - Report abuse -2The A-24 Visa For Assholes is still available.
She better hurry...
Feb 04th, 2017 - 12:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And I really mean it...
Yesterday they stopped one of my “dangerous” conregionals at Dulles...
Kjell Magne Bondevik is its name...
Is that visa for Spanish, Brit sucking, Singapore fleeing, ex-prats living in Argentina...?
Feb 04th, 2017 - 01:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How ze Germans see Mr. Drumpf today
Feb 04th, 2017 - 01:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0https://magazin.spiegel.de/SP/2017/6/
@Think
Feb 04th, 2017 - 01:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Wow, that would be embarrassing for any normal US administration. But 'America First' doesn't need allies.
@Voice
So what was your objection to US citizenship?
Voice, I'm curious about things of people posting on MP, but we don't always get the information we'd like to have......no?
Feb 04th, 2017 - 01:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nice to see your return Think. Have you be able to find those posts to reconcile what you stated about me? Or were you just providing alternative facts?
TWIMC
Feb 04th, 2017 - 01:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Reading todays Der Spiegel... I came to notice the symbol that prides the door lintel leading from the oval office to Drumpf's private office.
https://magazin.spiegel.de/SP/2017/6/149411810/images/co-sp-2017-006-0010-01-232383-bi-crop-h.bc6d8a7.jpg
Very fitting...:-(
Note: the fasces depicted have no axes, possibly because in the Roman Republic, the blade w
DemonTree
Feb 04th, 2017 - 02:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nothing wrong with US citizenship, but it's a case of giving up one for the other, I don't see the merits...
Pops
If one doesn't ask, one's curiosity will never be assuaged...
...and I've noticed you are never shy to ask when your curiosity is aroused...
Of course not and you should never stop from asking regardless of the results.
Feb 04th, 2017 - 02:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ok Pops...
Feb 04th, 2017 - 03:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I was curious because you probably applied for the Green Card through the spouse (family) category which is technically permanent residency and the ability to work is just a benefit of it..
I didn't think it was possible to revoke that and break family unity...
Immediate family is the highest preferred category and applies to myself and I don't like my options being limited...
US citizenship is a big step and not to be taken on a whim, you may in the future want the option of moving to Argentina...as a spouse of an Argentine citizen probably a right, that would be gone...
You never know the future....
I know what a I-551 is, however I do not need it. I was born in Williamsburg Hospital in Brooklyn NY, so it does not apply to me. I've been going back and forth to Argentina since 2008 and while not always in a spousal status, I am aware of the immigration rules there. I will likely be a resident opposed to a citizen there as my spouse is here. I prefer to have no laws of Argentina impacted on me other than the rules applicable to the general laws, excluding citizens abroad. But thank you for the USCIS updates, saves me a trip to Lawrence.
Feb 04th, 2017 - 04:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Geeeeeeee..., Captain Poppy and Mr. Voice...!
Feb 04th, 2017 - 04:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I have used this before..., but...: I “Think” this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship...;-)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5kiNJcDG4E0
Think, by your meme, I see that you are certainly closely related to Mr. Trump.........yes, I can see the resemblance.
Feb 04th, 2017 - 05:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It is by far sad for beings such as yourself Think to apparently believe that people with differing ideologies and nationalities must be at odds at one another. And furthermore, people can even get into full blown disagreements and still remain cordial. We use to do that here in the USA, but a populist asshole in the White House, much as the Kirchner's were, would prefer to have waring factions, it keeps the populists supporters in place. However, at the end of the day, the people eventually discover that all those bullets they were firing, were only blanks.
Are you firing blanks think? Oh, btw the way, can I bring you some gloves as I'm sure it would help your knuckles as you drag them? I'm always bringing someone something in Argentina.
Captain Poppy, I see that you continue to use them ellipses...........stop doing that, people can see the resemblance.
Feb 04th, 2017 - 05:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh my how you are such a brute in the way you hurt my feelings. Man, you showed me quique.
Feb 04th, 2017 - 05:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That'll learn you not to offer a Falcon ride to an auld Argie...
Feb 04th, 2017 - 05:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I recall that and the offer was appropriate at the time. I never claimed to be a “non violent” man. Do you think for one nanosecond that I spent a lifetime in my career as a pacifist? I have regrets in my live that I still wake in the night from, but that is hardly one of them. As I tell many, pick up you bags and move on from words, it takes more than words to hurt me. However, you are a man where words mean everything in their usage, so I suppose it still has your panties bunched up.
Feb 04th, 2017 - 05:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...
Feb 04th, 2017 - 06:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Marion Mitchell Morrison VS. Ludwig Josef Johann Wittgenstein...
As predicted…
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