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Federal Judge blocks Trump's immigration ban; White House will appeal

Saturday, February 4th 2017 - 07:11 UTC
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Seattle federal judge on Friday put a block on U.S. President Donald Trump's week-old executive order that had temporarily barred refugees and nationals from seven countries from entering the United States. The judge's temporary restraining order represents a major setback for Trump's action, though the White House said late Friday that it believed the ban to be “lawful and appropriate” and that the U.S. Department of Justice would file an emergency appeal. Read full article

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  • ElaineB

    A good development but I can see this going back and forth for months. Best of all it must be stressing the hell out of Trump, the junk food loving, obese man with a 70 year old heart.

    Feb 04th, 2017 - 11:29 am - Link - Report abuse +1
  • DemonTree

    @ElaineB
    Trump has not done anything deserving of death, so I think hoping for it is pretty disturbing.

    I don't want to see him dead of a heart attack anyway; a substantial proportion of Americans did vote for him, and would still demand the things he promised them. They need to see for themselves that his policies don't work and carry a high price. But, until the government addresses the real problems of employment and immigration with policies that actually work, nothing will be resolved.

    And you know his supporters will spin this as 'activist judges going against the will of the people', despite the fact it is their job to do so and a very important check on the US government. It's depressing how many people really do want an elected dictator.

    Feb 04th, 2017 - 12:11 pm - Link - Report abuse -5
  • ElaineB

    @ DT

    You are taking 2 + 2 and making 5. I didn't say anything about death so you should question your own interpretation before adopting a sanctimonious stance.

    Again, you are running away with wishing him dead. Sure, let's wait for Trump to initiate a nuclear war to show people the reality about him. The truth is, the people who voted for him will NEVER change their minds. To realise that you would have to understand the way his supporters think and the nature of the American mind-set regarding political teams.

    I have stated on here many times the need for checks and balances, a strong opposition and the testing of policies so they are actually both legal and workable. Do I need to run through it all again?

    Feb 04th, 2017 - 12:27 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Captain Poppy

    Actually I was thinking about myocardio infarction as well.

    Elaine, while I have never been a proponent of unabated immigration, I've never been for banning it as well. I've always been in favor for controlled immigration and supported refugees. One only needs to see a child pawing and crying over her dead parents a number of times to know accepting refugees from war torn countries is needed.

    This RO will be appealed and likely not hold in it's entirety. A visa is not a right to a foreign national, so it is likely that denying future visa's will remain, but those already approved will not be allowed to be revoked without cause other than the whimes of Steve Bannon. The order was sophomorically drafted and ignorantly executed.

    Now onto new Trump order.......dumping sludge into rivers.....allowed, Stock brokers can trade clients accounts with maximizing commissions in mind....AKA,,,churning, oil companies payments to government officials being reported overturned.....bribes.........ethic rules....out the window....where does it end?

    I find the strangest of the GOP supporting Devos for education is that when the rules change funding and the USA starts supporting and paying for the rich to go the private schools and funding in public schools decreases, it will hurt those redneck states the most. For me.....no big deal, I live in Massachusetts....Deerfield Acadamy, Smith Academy, Phillips Academy, Groton, Milton....the list goes on. But what wealthy people send their kids to school in Arkansas, Butte Montana, Miss. et al? I would think those people can ill afford to have their educated reduced even further.

    Feb 04th, 2017 - 01:40 pm - Link - Report abuse +3
  • DemonTree

    @ElaineB
    I admit it is slightly different when the leader in question has the nuclear button.

    People can change their minds though, and Trump won with a very slim margin. I really hope enough people in the US will wake up before it is too late.

    And no need for the lecture on checks and balances, I fully support them. But they will only work as long as enough Americans support them too, and understand why mob rule is a bad thing.

    Feb 04th, 2017 - 02:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @ DT

    He didn't win the popular vote but in the rural states votes count for more than other states. The system is weighted towards them and they are Trumps fan base. It some of those states you see white candles in the windows - supporting white supremacy. I have seen them. If Trump started a nuclear war they would support it and probably believe that their God would save them. These are the low-paid, low- I.Q. states.

    Trump might find the stress too much when he realises he cannot have his own way over everything. He is a man who needs to be adored and the hatred has to hurt. It could impact enough on his well-being and health for him to go. Or he could reasonably be impeached. I think it is a matter of time because despite it being a Republican-heavy government - they don't like him all that much. And the more he hands power to his friends, family and other unelected persons, the more likely he will be too much even for them.

    C.P., Nothing wrong with controlled immigration. Trump has cancelled the visas of people that had been through the system, vetted and approved. Did you see the irony of the latest attack in France being carried out by an Egyptian. Trump left that country off the ban because he has business interests there.

    Feb 04th, 2017 - 04:26 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Captain Poppy

    Yes....crazy. I have to say that when Trump issued that order, I good good as an American that they mobilized so quickly in an attempt to repel that order. I've never seen a President have so many lawsuits in as little as two weeks in office. It's actually almost exhausting watching the news every day here because every day has a major issue. Even something as simple as a statement that has to be pulled back, fixed and re-issued. They are so unprofessional and unprepared for this. That Jeffrey Lord on CNN has to be to most blind sheep of them all.

    Feb 04th, 2017 - 06:07 pm - Link - Report abuse +3
  • ElaineB

    @ C P

    Yes, the push-back from the majority of Americans has been noted overseas and gives us all hope. As you know I spend a fair amount of time in the U.S. and have family and friends there. I know the majority of Americans are good people.

    The protests around the world have to be hurting Trump's ego. Good.

    You are right, Trump is unprofessional, unprepared and entirely unsuitable to be President. And that may well be his undoing.

    Feb 04th, 2017 - 06:40 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • DemonTree

    @EB
    I know he lost the popular vote, but he won IIRC three states by small margins. So if just a few people living there change their minds, or people who didn't vote last time do get out and vote next time, he could lose the next election.

    However, I am kind of afraid he will have managed to start a war by then, or done something equally drastic to make himself more popular.

    I think you are right about him handing power to his cronies. How far the Republican government will let him get away with it, I don't know.

    @CP
    I agree with Elaine, the protests and push-back from Americans does give us hope.

    Feb 04th, 2017 - 07:38 pm - Link - Report abuse +3
  • chronic

    Sally Yates is gone.

    Jeff Sessions will be confirmed this week.

    Neil Gorsuch will be confirmed this spring.

    Generally the SCOTUS defers on executive orders.

    The solicitor general may petition for RBG's recusal.

    RBG's bias is a matter of public record.

    Feb 04th, 2017 - 10:33 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • ElaineB

    Great piece in The Guardian/Observer today.

    It is not the compulsive liar Trump we have to worry about but the compulsive believers who swallow the lies whole.

    Glad to see Trump knocked back again in the courts. The more upset he is the better.

    Feb 05th, 2017 - 01:30 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Captain Poppy

    Agreed, the compulsive believers. One good thing from Trump, he has shined light on the depth of the ignorant and poorly educated in the USA. Unfortunately for them, their education system is about to get worse below the Mason-Dixon line.....if that's even possible.

    Feb 05th, 2017 - 03:07 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • imoyaro

    Like the Church of the Subgenius used to say, “Get Ready For A Pretty Tough Future...”

    Feb 09th, 2017 - 06:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0

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