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Argentina in April will lower 35% tariff on computers and laptops imports

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Argentina will get rid of a 35% tariff on imports of computers, laptops and tablets, the Production Ministry said on Monday, part of a larger effort to lower consumer prices and roll back protectionist policies. Read full article

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  • Kanye

    Finally, with progressive new policies, post-K Argentina is brought up to 20th C. standards.

    Feb 21st, 2017 - 03:49 pm - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Frank

    That will be the end of abacus manufacturing in RG land.... more unemployment looming.

    Feb 22nd, 2017 - 12:51 am - Link - Report abuse +1
  • AustrOllOpithecus

    Vacation's up... ANGLOS!!!

    Your turpitudinous ways have come to an abrupt end, until next year.



    Speaking of duds and abacuses, this is what happens when a country strapped of resources keeps trying to play beyond its league:

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/766212/Nuclear-warning-royal-navy-submarines-grounded-crack-reactor

    Half of the vessels grounded, and:

    “It means Britain may be forced to beg for international support in protecting our four Vanguard submarines, which carry Britain’s Trident nuclear deterrent.”

    And this?

    www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/02/05/british-warships-noisy-russian-submarines-can-hear-100-miles

    “Rear Admiral Chris Parry, a former director of operational capability for the Ministry of Defence, said the £1 billion a piece Type 45 destroyers are “as noisy as hell” and sound like ”a box of spanners“ underwater.”

    “The Ministry of Defence spent £3.5bn on each of the Army's Ajax tanks, but they are unable to fit on board transport aircraft without needing to be dismantled, according to an investigation by the Sunday Times.”

    “The warships were originally designed to work in the cool waters of the North Atlantic, but in hotter climates, the jet engines have experienced problems with heat, causing them to shut down.

    Admiral Parry said: “We used to put little wooden wedges between the hatchclips and the hatches in my destroyer to stop them rattling so we could keep the noise down.”

    So that's the mighty UK military? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Never laughed so hard at the engineering and eventuality ineptitude displayed in the above articles... hahaha.
    So not only are your ships sea unworthy and rotting on port, you have to beg for aid to protect your aimless trident nukes that in case of a nuclear incident would end up wiping out the city of an ally instead of the “enemy” (btw, where are these enemies that the UK maintains such a large, and crumbling, military? Where? Who?)

    The lies are over ANGLOS, you all simply suck.

    Anglo Trolling ON!

    Feb 22nd, 2017 - 03:26 am - Link - Report abuse -5
  • Kanye

    With the removal of the high import tax, the Argentines may lose their computer “assembly” factories, but at least more lower income people will have access to the Internet, and World News and perspectives.

    Online learning may be a viable alternative to the declining Arg universities, also.

    Feb 22nd, 2017 - 04:32 am - Link - Report abuse +5
  • Lightning

    The “computer industry” in Argentina was artificially supported/protected by the Kirchner Government - just not competitive or viable in an open market - and guess what? - Argentines will buy from Chile next door, and sales are lost anyway.

    Feb 22nd, 2017 - 05:46 am - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Troy Tempest

    Welcome back, Frank!

    LOL, no abacus!

    The Argie education system , such as it is, will have a hard time upgrading to affordable computers.
    Bring on the censoring - don't want the young minds of Arg indoctrinated... oops, too late!

    Feb 22nd, 2017 - 05:59 am - Link - Report abuse +1
  • DemonTree

    Welcome back Trollboy. I see your holiday hasn't put you in any better mood! But aren't you happy you can now get cheaper PCs, smartphones etc without having to visit a - shock, horror - foreign country?

    Feb 22nd, 2017 - 08:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Voice

    Heh heh! The 'entertainment' is back from her hols. Tell us, dear 'boy' where you went, what you did etc etc. Not anywhere 'foreign'?

    Feb 22nd, 2017 - 09:26 am - Link - Report abuse +2
  • AustrOllOpithecus

    My mood is swell.

    Those articles are directly quoted, so it's not my “mood” that colors them... it is the truth!!

    The British military is a clown show. Because it keeps trying to pretend it is a world force, it isn't. If you significantly downsized, and got rid of your nukes, you could have a small but lethal and slick functioning war machine that would be respected. Who can respect a military whose ships melt in 25C, are so noisy they can't sail or risk being sunk, whose tans can't be loaded on transports because they messed up the dimensions, nukes whose guidance is less reliable than a blindfolded archer with parkinson's shooting in a dark room...

    As for my time, it was sublime. I was nice to be able to cross a district line again (districts are the political divisions inside a county or department), but this time I actually did cross into other counties, a rare thing of late. But when I got to the provincial border, that was just incredible, an honor few people will ever have, to step into another province entirely... I was just mesmerized at the sights and sounds... even the TV stations were different can you believe it.

    Great time.

    Feb 22nd, 2017 - 10:42 am - Link - Report abuse -5
  • DemonTree

    Yeah, but this article has nothing to do with the British military. It's not even about some other country's military, so why are you spending your time searching out these articles? Don't you have better things to do with your time off?

    Lol, have you never actually been to another country? But I'm glad you didn't try and visit Chile last week. Which province did you visit anyway?

    Feb 22nd, 2017 - 11:12 am - Link - Report abuse +4
  • The Voice

    Ah, Nostrils, the 'District Line', so, you are in London after all? Like Tinkle another resident of Brook Street I presume? Are you consigned to the basement? It sounds like where you went they had a Sky box and you enjoyed some different TV?
    By the way, by a miraculous coincidence your alter ego Brasshole has also made an appearance too after an unexplained absence during your 'holiday' !!! Can someone please explain that?

    Feb 22nd, 2017 - 02:26 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Clyde15

    I see the King of mega hyperbole has returned.

    Our Trident missiles are obtained from a common pool with the USA...so that means..according to you...that the USA's nukes are useless.

    Yes there are faults in the nuke reactors of our ageing subs. BUT they can be fixed.

    Have a read about Russia's nuclear subs. before posting slanted uninformed drivel...for which you are famous.

    The type 25's have engine problems as they were designed for the N.Atlantic and no one envisaged overheating problems, however modifications appear to be underway.

    telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/12/23/rolls-royce-prepares-test-fix-unreliable-type-45-destroyer-engines/

    Are you telling us that to move into another province is a life changing experience that few Argentinians will experience ? Travelling inside Argentina is an honour that few people will have ? In what kind of dump do you live that to move out for a few weeks was an out-of -body experience.

    Your post has told us a lot about you and none of it is good.

    Feb 22nd, 2017 - 05:53 pm - Link - Report abuse +4
  • LukeDig

    “Declining Argentine universities”

    These declining universities give education to your beloved chileans, who cannot afford to pay their own, too busy they are getting rich and splitting with their masters.

    University of Buenos Aires is between the world´s best, if we are going to talk about decline, to get a good education in UK you need to go to scotland

    Feb 23rd, 2017 - 03:32 am - Link - Report abuse -4
  • The Voice

    The University of BA is the best place in the world to study Vivenza Criola , fraud, and the science of nicking things. Its located in Villa 13!

    As for Scotch Uni's, this troll has never heard of Oxford or Cambridge. Ignorance is bliss Bahahaha… ;-)

    Feb 23rd, 2017 - 08:57 am - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Clyde15

    Typo error by me..for type 25 substitute type 45.

    Also look up USS Zumwalt. It also has a new propulsion system which has caused problems.

    State of the art systems throw up unforeseen glitches which are eventually ironed out.

    If nothing new was tried then we would all be back using sailing vessels à la Argentine navy

    LD
    University of Buenos Aires is between the world´s best, ????????

    What you say about education in the UK in nonsense. Oxford has come out in place 1 in the international league, The UK in general, punches way above it's weight in respect of population. Again it depends on the course you wish to study. Edinburgh and Glasgow come out well in medicine and veterinary studies. Aberdeen has the highest rate of graduate employment. I would not attempt to name all the universities in England but none of them appear in the bottom quartile.

    The Asian universities are catching up fast BUT they are pressure cookers and turning out students who have learned by rote and are not expected to challenge what they are being taught

    Feb 23rd, 2017 - 11:29 am - Link - Report abuse +5
  • Kanye

    LD

    You are deluded.

    US News University Rankings puts Oxford and Cambridge ranked as 6th and 7th in the world.
    University of Buenos Aires is 340th.

    https://www.usnews.com/education/best-global-universities/search?region=latin-america&country=argentina&city=buenos-aires-city&name=University+of+Buenos+Aires

    If you look at the Times rankings, Oxford is currently #1 followed by Caltech in the US.
    U of BA is #347.

    Others say similar things.

    U of BA is ranked low by all ranking agencies - and falling.

    Britain always has at least two uninersities in the top 10.

    Feb 23rd, 2017 - 02:02 pm - Link - Report abuse +3
  • AustrOllOpithecus

    What good is a top 10 university when no one who may actually benefit can actually attend it? Only the ultra-rich can go, perpetuating the cycle of rich get richer and English get englisher.

    Feb 23rd, 2017 - 04:55 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • The Voice

    As usual Nostrils distorts the truth…

    I saw this on the BBC and thought you should see it:

    Oxford University to have 'most state school students for decades' - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-37250916
    I saw this on the BBC and thought you should see it:

    Cambridge sees slight rise in state school students - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-37250916

    Many privately educated British kids come from ordinary homes.

    Nostrils and LukeDig ought to apply to The Onion as experienced exponents of fake news! Oh! But they are one and the same, not forgetting Brarsehole of course…

    Feb 23rd, 2017 - 05:52 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Clyde15

    TROLL
    Maybe ultra-rich by YOUR standards. My daughter's brothers-in -law both got degrees at Oxford and Cambridge respectively. Their father was a vet -hardly uber rich.

    www.ox.ac.uk/about/facts-and-figures?wssl=1.
    Read this especially about the number of foreign students....41% are foreign !!

    “English get englisher.” You mean that as a disparaging remark, I take it as a complement.

    Argentine students at BA get more Argentinian, now THAT is a put-down,

    Feb 23rd, 2017 - 05:56 pm - Link - Report abuse +3
  • DemonTree

    Oxford and Cambridge don't cost any more than other universities in England, Trollboy. Now, the foreign students I met at Uni were from very rich families, but they have to pay much higher fees.

    And University is where you go to become less insular. The strongest predictor of voting Leave in the referendum was having a lower level of education.

    Clyde15, how is the storm up in Scotland? It's pretty windy here, a colleague's shed blew over and another one lost some roof tiles. The station was chaos but my train home got uncancelled so I don't care. :)

    Feb 23rd, 2017 - 06:08 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Voice

    What storm, it's calm out there...
    Heavy snow last night...gone by this afternoon, only left on the hills...

    Feb 23rd, 2017 - 07:35 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Zaphod Beeblebrox

    Troll,

    ”As for my time, it was sublime. I was nice to be able to cross a district line again (districts are the political divisions inside a county or department), but this time I actually did cross into other counties, a rare thing of late. But when I got to the provincial border, that was just incredible, an honor few people will ever have, to step into another province entirely... I was just mesmerized at the sights and sounds... even the TV stations were different can you believe it.”

    If you were mesmerised by this, then your brain would explode if you ever left the country.

    They say that travel broadens the mind, and in my experience it certainly does. Your hatred of foreigners and amazement at the sights and sounds (but not smells?) of life in an adjacent province are both two sides of the same coin.

    Since you enjoyed your first small dose of travelling, I can only encourage you to spread your wings and do more of it. You'll enjoy it and you'll become less scared of foreigners when you understand that beneath the obvious differences in appearance, clothing, languages, customs, foods etc. everyone is generally the same in that they just want a peaceful life were they have the freedom to work, play, talk, laugh, sing, eat, drink etc.

    I've found that the best trips are when the reality does not match your expectations and you are very pleasantly surprised. For me I'd include Japan, Argentina and New York City as my top 3 destinations that surprised me most and I'd strongly recommend them all.

    Feb 23rd, 2017 - 07:38 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Clyde15

    D.T.
    Surprisingly it missed us completely. Some small flakes of snow which melted on touching the ground, some rain for about an hour and by the afternoon, nothing.

    In the afternoon we went down the coast 12 miles to the Maidens. Some large puddles but the road was dry and we had a touch of sunshine. Not particularly windy. Arran had snow to the 1,000' line.
    All in all better weather than the last week !

    Two Gannets close in shore so Spring is on the way.

    Feb 23rd, 2017 - 08:03 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • DemonTree

    Nothing at all? That's a bit rubbish. The wind has dropped here now, so maybe it is all over. We have lost some more carport roof, but no other damage.

    Spring on the way sounds nice, but I wish we'd had some snow this year. England doesn't have enough mountains. :(

    Feb 23rd, 2017 - 11:00 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Voice

    DemonTree
    Like Clyde says, there's still snow on the hills at the 1000 foot line...
    Here's the Holy Loch with the snow on the hills...
    https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2842/32922933232_1cac31cc07_o.jpg

    Feb 23rd, 2017 - 11:49 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • DemonTree

    Looks nice. There was snow on the hills when I went to the lake district, but there is nothing over 1000 feet around here except radio masts.

    Feb 23rd, 2017 - 11:53 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Clyde15

    Voice
    It was worse last Thursday 16th. The ferry journey was “lumpy”, got held in a queue at Rankin's Brae and it rained all morning at Benmore as we dripped our way round during the member's pre-opening meeting. Luckily it stopped by mid-afternoon and was dry in time for the return trip at 4pm.
    I see you took the picture from the entrance to Hunter's Quay Holiday Village.

    If you go to the Imperial War Museum's web site and look up Holy Loch, there are pictures of the area in WW2 including X-craft midget submarines which I remember seeing.
    It's funny but I don't remember the depot ship or any of the subs. except the midget subs.
    They must have made a vivid impression to remember them for over 72 years.

    I think that this topic is now dead as we have diverted from the subject heading thanks to Troll boy's usual hysterical venom with nothing to do with the subject

    Feb 24th, 2017 - 11:24 am - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Enrique Massot

    I hope the distinguished commentators in this thread will not mind me to briefly return to the topic of Argentina's imports with some recent information.
    About 50,000 wooden, manufactured homes will soon arrive in Argentina, coming from China.
    Under Macri, the construction industry has already been heavily hit by the ongoing recession, and the announced imports will probably add to the impact.
    As many as 26 chambers of different industries, including brick manufacturers and wood producers have expressed concern.
    Meanwhile, the plan Procrear of the previous government, which used pension funds to finance affordable house construction, is being quietly eviscerated.
    This in spite of Macri's promises in April of 2016 to build a million housing units in four years, generating 200,000 job positions. (Sorry, no article in English available).
    http://www.clarin.com/politica/macri-anuncio-construir-millon-viviendas_0_4kTY-Pjlb.html

    Feb 25th, 2017 - 10:59 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Voice

    Enrique Massot

    I don't really know how houses are constructed in Argentina...but most of the new builds in the UK are technically wooden houses (manufactured homes) they call it timber frame...
    They are basically a kit, but they still require a concrete slab or brick/block foundations and are usually encapsulated in blockwork and render or brick...
    The wood for these kits 80 to 90% of it comes from Scandinavia, even so it does not detract from the Building industry it enables construction to be cheaper...
    As I mentioned I don't know if it is the same over there, but if I was tasked with building a lot of homes...I would be sourcing the cheapest kits...wood is wood wherever it's from...
    The basic kit is only a small part of the finished product..and the end result involves a lot of tradesmen...

    Feb 25th, 2017 - 11:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Kanye

    Enrique,

    I understand your position.

    Best not to try anything or initiate any new ideas.
    Trade and market incentives have been known at times to be less satisfactory than hoped, right?

    Best do nothing, then.
    Any positive economic advice?

    Nope, thought not.

    Feb 26th, 2017 - 01:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Voice

    Enrique - Chinese? Watch out they don't burst into flames ;-)

    Feb 26th, 2017 - 10:02 am - Link - Report abuse +1
  • golfcronie

    I don't know where you live but here in the UK the traditional build of houses are “ bricks and mortar ”, an inner skin of lignacite lightweight blocks and an outer skin on brickwork. For fast build we have a company called Caledonian Building Systems that build modular units, for schools prisons etc.that do indeed only need a concrete slab and all services in place before construction

    Feb 26th, 2017 - 11:33 am - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Clyde15

    I would have to say that the bulk of new homes are built of internal wooden frames, insulated with a brick outer. Speeds up building time and reduces cost.

    There are lots of new houses being built in my area including 5/6 roomed detached villas using this method of construction. The shells/roofs seem to be completed in a couple of weeks.

    My house now 45 years old was built in the “traditional” method. Breeze block internally and facing bricks outside with a harling on part of the surface.

    The bricks were produced locally from clay and iron slag. The first time it tried to drill in the wall it burned the drill bit and it could not penetrate. It was not until tungsten tipped bits and hammer drills that I could managed to put up plant supports on the outer wall.

    I'm sure the walls could stop a bullet ! Useful ? Maybe !

    Feb 26th, 2017 - 02:08 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Voice

    You obviously live in England...
    25% of all UK new builds are Timber Frame (off site manufactured homes) and it is increasing...
    I'm in Scotland where 75% of all new builds are Timber Frame...
    Wind and water tight in a few days, quicker, cheaper and superior U values over traditional brick/block construction that has a fixed U value threshold (they can't make the insulation cavity any larger without decreasing structural integrity)

    Inner leaf, outer leaf construction is soooo....last century....

    Feb 26th, 2017 - 02:10 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • The Voice

    My house in Wales and my brothers house in Scotland were both timber frame - both cracked all over the show. Cheap, quick flawed building method IMO. But… loads of new houses being built around here, mostly timber frame except for the upmarket ones and one offs which are often still cavity wall.

    Feb 26th, 2017 - 04:27 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Kanye

    Ok, Think/voice has succeeded in deflecting away from the original story.

    Back to Argentina - cheaper imports for home kits, but still requiring local workers to construct them, probably means both the home prices could be cheaper overall, and people employed to build them might add to the consumer base that can afford to buy these new homes.

    Of course, alternatively one could sit and do nothing but carve out another shipping container home in the Villa Miserables while the economy and infrastructure collapses around them.

    Feb 26th, 2017 - 05:50 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Voice

    The Voice

    The only thing that can crack is finishing plaster...
    Cowboy construction, the concept is not flawed, those that build them are.
    Timber is often exposed to outside moisture and they don't allow them to dry out before adding the final skim in haste, plasterboard doesn't crack...
    Besides with cavity you are still going to have to add extra insulation on the inside of the blockwork to achieve building standard U values....150 mm insulation or 100 mm Kingspan...minimum.
    That means thick battens attached to the blockwork and infilled...then plasterboard...

    Kanuck
    I didn't start the subject of manufactured homes Enrique did, I'm just saying there is nothing wrong with them...
    I also highlighted that it takes a lot of employed tradesmen/women to complete them...
    Also Architects, Town Planning, Building control, Road construction, Concrete manufacturing, Sewers and drainage systems, Telecommunications, Landscaping, Street lighting...the list is endless...
    So kanye butt out...

    Feb 26th, 2017 - 07:06 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • The Voice

    As a builder Voicey should know… ;-)

    Feb 26th, 2017 - 08:35 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Kanye

    Village Voyeur voice

    You just latched into any diversion of thread.

    Chinese home kits are quite unimportant and co-incidental to the subject.

    Any chance for you to pontificate on unrelated matters is just a bonus for you, though.

    Your “wood is wood” premise is fundamentally flawed.

    Type of wood? Is it straight? Is it dry? Is it diseased... ?
    What about Value Added features, is it pressure treated? Pest treated? Is the ply good both sides? Is it uniformly cut? What is the maximum length available?

    Likewise, the kits. Pre-drilled? Accurate cuts and joints? Angled cuts? Tongue and Grooved joints?

    Is the kit easily adaptable to different plans, is it scalable?

    Lots can be done at the factory by machines or near-slave labor that would greatly save on the time to erect the structures, the quality and efficiency of the finished product, and time and money spent on local skilled and semi-skilled labor.

    Yeah, I'd love to see you in charge!

    BTW,
    What's with the denigrating of “Kanucks”?

    I though REAL Brits and Scots quite liked them and were pleased that they were close brothers in arms for several wars.

    If anyone is not qualified to make comments, it's you, phoney Scotsman.

    You'd best stick to to bragging about having the fastest Allegro in Dunoon, “Goes like shit on a stick, dontcha know!”

    Feb 26th, 2017 - 09:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Well we had a few trees fall down here just south of Aylesbury, and it was very windy,
    still, apparently
    Storm Ewan:12 days of snow storms and 70 mph winds battering Britain predicted

    AS BRITAIN slowly recovers from the ravages of Storm Doris,

    just another windy day in Britain...lol

    Feb 26th, 2017 - 11:21 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Voice

    No...I'm quite sure wood is in fact wood and therefore the phrase is not flawed...
    Kits are manufactured to specification if it's structural it will be pressure treated otherwise it couldn't be “structural”...
    There is no pre-drilling and all prefabricated components like trussed rafters are complete ready to fit...
    They are not scaleable they are produced to the specification in the design..
    Don't venture into subjects you know nothing about...
    Like British phrases....It's Shit OFF a Stick..ya dope...;-))))
    Kanye not understand English...?

    Kanye the Kan-uck...don't you get it....?
    A spade is a spade...that's all...

    Feb 26th, 2017 - 11:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Kanye

    Yatter yatter yatter...

    What else does your bruised ego want to dispute as infinitum?


    Are you going to tell me your Allegro is actually the vastly superior Vanden Plas?

    Please...

    Feb 27th, 2017 - 12:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Voice

    Ad infinitum...ya dope...;-)))

    Feb 27th, 2017 - 12:20 am - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Kanye

    LOL - as I said, you're running true to form. That was auto correct !!

    Ha ha ha .... loser!!!

    Feb 27th, 2017 - 01:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    To interject......I thought the expression was “like shit off a shovel”

    An old railway fireman was the first I ever heard using that expression. In the days of steam and with no toilet facilities, the driver and fireman would use a shovel to “do their business” and then get rid of it quickly into the firebox..which also sterilised the shovel.

    A necessary function as they also cooked ham and eggs on it !

    Another piece of esoteric info. for the masses.

    Feb 27th, 2017 - 10:24 am - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Briton

    Argentina will lower 35% tariff on computers and laptops ,

    Does this mean higher education with more access to the argentine internet,

    just surfing...lol

    Feb 27th, 2017 - 02:43 pm - Link - Report abuse +2

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