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Chaos taking hold of Brazil; a desperate Temer calls in the military to restore order

Thursday, May 25th 2017 - 10:54 UTC
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Brazil’s president ordered the military to restore order in the country’s capital Wednesday after some government ministries were evacuated during clashes between police and protesters who are seeking the leader’s ouster. Tens of thousands of demonstrators marched to Congress to protest economic reforms that President Michel Temer is pushing through and to demand he step down amid a corruption scandal. Read full article

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  • Enrique Massot

    Bye bye Temer!

    May 25th, 2017 - 12:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Diretas Já!

    May 25th, 2017 - 12:12 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Jack Bauer

    For once BrassHole is right...the photo is from 2005....but it diminishes in nothing the vandalism and the chaos we saw yesterday...
    Anyway, 800 bus loads of idiots, from all parts of Brazil, descended on Brasília, coopted by the leftist unions (and paid for with the infamous “contribuição sindical” - the obligatory contribution to the unions by all registered workers, equal to 1 day's pay - supposed to be used to improve worker relations, not cause chaos), to protest against the (essential) reforms of the pension system and the labour laws....the unions are against the reforms because it takes their billions in funding away, which means that most of the union leaders will need to look for jobs, instead of sponging off the worker. Their motivation is obvious, and the idiots who support them are just being manipulated...
    The protest, sponsored by these criminals, caused extensive damage (total destruction) to the ground floors of 8 Ministry buildings, set 3 on fire, destroyed dozens of chemical toilets (setting them afire), destroying hundreds of road signs as well as public lighting ....not to mention that the police confiscated dozens of knives and drugs....but of course, it was meant to be peaceful, and it only wasn't because the nasty police intervened when the protesters started to damage / set fire to public buildings... some even invaded the Cathedral of Brasília...must have been to pray...

    May 25th, 2017 - 06:18 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Think

    Agora...:

    “TEMER É REJEITADO POR 95% DOS BRASILEIROS E 99% DOS NORDESTINOS”
    http://www.brasil247.com/pt/247/brasil/297607/Temer-é-rejeitado-por-95-dos-brasileiros-e-99-dos-nordestinos.htm

    May 25th, 2017 - 06:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    @McStink
    The only good news is that the JBS recordings that might well condemn Temer, if he is not ousted before by the TSE, is that the same whistle blower, Joesley Batista, who has screwed Temer, has also pushed Lula deeper in to the sh*t....If the prosecutors believe what he said about Temer, they'll believe what he said about Lula (and Dilma).
    Now, the fact that 99% of the 'nordestinos' reject Temer is nothing new....they'd reject anyone who took the place of their beloved “Nine”.....

    May 25th, 2017 - 10:08 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Don Alberto

    I have always been unable to understand the Latin American tendency to destroy their own country.


    I was there (for a brief moment) and clearly recall when porteños set fire to one of the railway stations in Buenos Aires, because the trains were delayed for two hours by a derailed train.

    May 25th, 2017 - 11:26 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Skip

    Well it seems Brazil's delusions of being some important world power have finally come to an end.

    The fact that it is considered a regional power really is indicative of the neighbourhood.

    May 26th, 2017 - 05:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • :o))

    Did anyone expect a few Boy-Scouts to control the situation which was totally out of control; even for the Armed Forces?

    Tear Gas + Pepper Spray are not exactly the Weapons of Choice to disperse the Well Organized Crime-Syndicates [PEACEFUL Protesters???].

    Those were Highly Trained Criminals - Specialized in Violence as well as in the Destruction of the Public + Private Properties; as one can notice from the result.

    May 26th, 2017 - 12:00 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Jack Bauer

    In all protests staged by the radical left - lead by the PT, PC do B, PSOL, PSB, PDT, CUT and Força Sindical (the last two, unions) - for whatever reason, professional agitators are hired to instigate the manipulated idiots, many of whom have no idea why they are even there, waving red flags and shouting whatever they are told to....and, we cannot forget, the R$ 30 and the baloney sandwich each protester receives, which without they probably wouldn't go....their protests are always during the week - when serious people are at work - in locations that cause the most confusion in the cities (all lanes of main avenues), and always end up , or start off with, burning tyres and buses, and destroying public and private property.....in contrast with the protests against the PT and their band of thieves, in which no violence has been registered....it's easy to see a pattern in the behaviour of the radical left, in which those at the top benefit, and those underneath are just manipulated without any real gain.

    May 26th, 2017 - 02:53 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • imoyaro

    Here's an entertaining summary of the situation...

    https://panampost.com/editor/2017/05/26/as-brazil-sinks-further-into-political-crisis-all-roads-lead-back-to-lula/

    May 27th, 2017 - 12:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    @imoyaro
    great article and a very appropriate analogy....good reading for the numbnuts who stubbornly insist the toad is innocent....not that it will make them change their mind, but will be a grim reminder that their hero relies on a lucky punch....and even then, it would not turn him into a real champion.

    May 27th, 2017 - 09:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • :o))

    @imoyaro: THAT's what MAY happen!

    Just a FEW of the reasons are:
    #1: A VAST misinformed majority is brainwashed
    #2: They prefer the falsely promised short-term gains
    #3: They'd bet on a known crook than an unknown one.

    May 28th, 2017 - 10:31 am - Link - Report abuse +1
  • golfcronie

    Thats funny, sounds just like Argentina too, are all Latin countries tarred with the same brush?

    May 29th, 2017 - 08:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • :o))

    REF: “Latin countries tarred with the same brush”: AND with the same TAR too!
    https://i1.wp.com/www.humorpolitico.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Mortos-vivos-Aecio-e-Temer.jpg?resize=580%2C420

    May 29th, 2017 - 11:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • AustrOllOpithecus

    Look at this, how cute.

    Anglos, again, BEING ANGLOS.

    First you have the racist Don Alberto, who is unable to understand some entire groups tendency for sub-human acts.

    Of course he as a Briton gets collective amnesia as to what happened in his own country in 2011, when HE himself did a very good effort at destroying his own country.

    (The French did it in 2009, and the Americans have had riots almost every two weeks for the last three years now).

    Then you have Skip, the guy from a country that is about as relevant in world affairs as an extra stripe on a Zebra. His country has cowered under the USA for its entire history and without that no one would have even heard of its existence.

    And then Golfcronie and :o)) continuing their racist generalizations about “Latin Americans”. Now let's remember, I am constantly berated and excoriated by them and others here for my so-called “liberal use” of the word Anglo, a race they claim does not exist, when it clearly does and has been used as a racial term in Argentina for well over a century now. Sometimes in order to give legitimacy to their unsubstantiated claim of Anglos not existing, they will say to me “there is no such thing as the Latin Race”.

    So why in this thread there suddenly seems to be a well defined Latin Race, one that destroys their own countries, prefer crooks, like short-term false gains, and are brainwashed.

    I guess because in this thread is to their advantage...

    But in so doing they all have proven all the characteristics of the ANGLO genetic: duplicitous, hypocrites, racists, lacking any kind of moral scruple, ravenous abusers of natural resources, thieves of others, hypocrites, Anglo supremacists, oily skinned, hypocrites, mendacious, who dismiss anyone or anything non-Anglo as worthless and only anything culturally Anglo as worthy.

    Which is why the USA and the UK are today the laughing stocks of the planet and absolutely no-one in the rest of the world wants to do anything with them anylonger.

    May 29th, 2017 - 11:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    @AustrOllOpithecus
    I was going to agree with you until I got to the end... strangely enough I changed my mind.

    By the way, :0)) is not an Anglo, I assume he is Brazilian, and Jack Bauer is both. And do you even know what country Skip is from? I can't think of any that fit your description; Australia was part of the British Empire for many years, nothing to do with America at all.

    May 29th, 2017 - 01:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • :o))

    REF: The “Delações Premiadas”:
    So many Crooked BIG Names are involved; that finding your name in The List will s00n become a “Status Symbol” amongst the corrupt! :o))

    May 29th, 2017 - 03:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Skip

    Oh no, Nostrils attempted to insult people.

    Yawn!

    May 29th, 2017 - 03:57 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Jack Bauer

    Have to laugh at the list compiled by the “neanderthal from Mendoza”, in which he attempts to describe the traits of the 'anglos'...as if they were exclusive...and I suppose he believes that what he likes to call the “latin race” conquered South America by being Mr. Nice Guy...

    May 29th, 2017 - 10:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    I especially liked 'oily skinned', because WTF?

    Anyway, do you consider yourself anglo or latin american or both?

    May 29th, 2017 - 10:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • AustrOllOpithecus

    Thankfully I'm not Anglo or EUian, or any other Old worlder invader.

    May 30th, 2017 - 01:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    @AustrOllOpithecus
    You are right...of course you aren't “Anglo or EUian, or any other Old worlder invader”, you
    are a sasquatch.

    May 30th, 2017 - 05:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Skip

    He's just someone who is powerless to control his life

    May 31st, 2017 - 12:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    I wasn't asking you Trollboy, I wondered what Jack Bauer thought because he's Anglo-Brazilian.

    I'm sure your ancestors must have been 'invaders' from Europe or some other part of the old world though, even if you won't admit it.

    May 31st, 2017 - 08:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • :o))

    At the risk of saying “I Told You So”:
    REF: menos escolarizados: http://veja.abril.com.br/blog/radar-on-line/nordeste-e-menos-escolarizados-fazem-lula-liderar-pesquisa/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=redesabril_veja
    I DID TELL YOU SO! :o))

    May 31st, 2017 - 03:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    @DT
    Didn't realize the question was for me....anyway, let's put it this way.....my upbringing followed the British culture, but simultaneously seeing and realizing that the Brazilian culture has a different approach to, or a different perception of, certain issues...which I understand but don't think are acceptable. Generally speaking I get on very well with Brazilians, as I'm fully adapted and make a point of avoiding radical idiots.
    The troll seems to have identity problems....he can't decide what he is... poor fella...

    May 31st, 2017 - 06:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    Sounds like you do NOT feel Brazilian, despite having grown up there and lived there most of your life. But how much time have you spent in Britain? We have plenty of idiots of our own right here.

    May 31st, 2017 - 07:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Mr. DemonTree...

    You are quite right...

    You have plenty of idiots of your own right there..., which upbringing followed the XXXXXXXX culture..., but simultaneously seeing and realizing that the British culture has a different approach to, or a different perception of, certain issues...which they understand but don't think are acceptable....
    Generally speaking they get on very well with the British, as they are fully adapted... until.......

    They are normally not called Jack..., or Bauer... but Muhammad..., or Salman...

    May 31st, 2017 - 08:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    I wasn't talking about them, but yes, evidently we do have some of that kind of idiot too. Like those parents who took their children into a war zone! What kind of person does that? And I don't call it fully adapted to refuse to go to your own daughter's wedding because she's marrying a Christian, which is what my friend's family did.

    May 31st, 2017 - 09:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    @McStink the (envious) Chimp
    Try being original......but probably difficult being cooped up in the middle of nowhere.

    @DT
    You're right about that....understanding them does not mean I think like them.
    I have never lived in the UK....just visited on several occasions for holidays.
    Every country has idiots....the only difference is the amount of them. And some have disproportionate numbers...

    Jun 01st, 2017 - 01:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    @JB
    What are the big differences between Brazilian culture and British culture in your opinion? And if you've never lived in Britain, how do you know it's really a cultural difference and not just the way your parents brought you up?

    Jun 01st, 2017 - 08:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    TWIMC

    In me humble experience...,individuals like “Jack Bauer” incorporate the most recalcitrant characteristics of their contact cultures...

    Resulting in a kind of highly educated ignorant uperclass Engrish chav with white Brasilian supremacist death squad tendencies...

    Just listen to his “body language”...

    Jun 01st, 2017 - 10:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • :o))

    REF: “Chaos taking hold of Brazil”:
    https://www.humorpolitico.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Pallocci-vai-falar-sobre-Lula-580x370.jpg

    Jun 01st, 2017 - 11:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    @Think
    You can't have an upper class chav, it's an insult aimed at the lower classes.

    I will leave Jack Bauer to reply to your comment himself, but which part of your 'contact cultures' do you think people like you incorporate?

    Jun 01st, 2017 - 03:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • :o))

    Just to keep U guys on par: https://theintercept.com/2017/05/30/audios-e-delacoes-escancaram-o-esquema-de-aecio-cia-e-mostram-como-a-politica-e-feita-de-verdade/

    Jun 01st, 2017 - 04:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    @DT
    As a young kid, having been brought up in the British community, it was only normal that it rub off on me...the school curriculum was identical to that in Britain (taught in English, except for French, Latin and Portuguese lessons) - sports activities were ranked high, as was academic performance, honour and loyalty were drummed into you right from the start...even the physical punishment doled out on certain occasions, in retrospect, had its merits....today, in comparison, kids get away with murder with a rap on the knuckles. The club membership was 90% British, as were the students and my friends at school ; quite a few were in Brazil for the short duration, maybe for 4 or 5 years, while their fathers were out on contract. Mine too, was here on contract, and after 5 years asked to stay on. Even today, a lot of my friends, not just acquaintances, are from Britain, and all other English speaking countries... also have plenty Brazilian friends (from the club, job, gym, the Condo and surrounding area in which I live....)
    The better-educated Brazilians are not really 'different' - excluding a few local traits - as they too abhor corruption and politics for personal gain...obviously one runs in to those who have 'slightly different' views on government, but you learn to take it in your stride...provided their friendship is worthwhile hanging on to. As I said, one does not necessarily have to agree with them all the time, to consider them a friend.
    Having spent several months in the UK during vacations (from the 60's, as a kid, through early 2000's), plus my intensive exposure to the culture during my younger years - and later on - allow me to say that the principles that oriented my upbringing at home were no different to those of any normal kid in the UK.
    Based on McStink's 'humble experience', I'm sure he'll get a high trying to dissect what I've written, and twist it to suit his warped mind....but it ain't my problem..
    Waiting, Stinky.

    Jun 01st, 2017 - 05:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Mr. DemonTree...

    You say...:
    《“You can't have an upper class chav, it's an insult aimed at the lower classes.”》

    I say...:
    Evidently you haven't been in what we once called “third word countries” and mingled with the sons & daughters of the Ex-Pat Engrish resident colony there...

    Far to many highly educated ignorant rich Engrish chavs with white supremacist death squad tendencies in most of them...

    Not upper class..., no lower class..., no class at all..
    Just like Turnip Jack Bauer...

    Jun 01st, 2017 - 07:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    @DT
    Waste of time reading, even replying to, the twit from Chubut, a.k.a. McStink the Chimp....
    He must be the product of a time when kiddies down in Chubut only got a rap on the knuckles for screwing up....explains a lot of things.
    But what did I tell you ?

    Jun 01st, 2017 - 08:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    @JB
    I didn't know there was that big a British community in Brazil. I guess for kids who were only there for 4 or 5 years it made sense to go to an English school, but if you were planning on staying wouldn't it be better to learn to fit in with the local culture? Did you have many Brazilian friends as a child?

    I dunno about Think, but British schools haven't had corporal punishment for a long time. I'm glad I only had to suffer a few detentions, but I think teachers need more power to deal with disruptive pupils; I don't want corporal punishment back, but they should be able to get them out of the classroom so they don't ruin everyone else's education.

    @Think
    Nope. I had a friend at Uni who went to one of these international schools, but I don't reckon they have too many death squads in Luxembourg. It seemed an odd sort of life, not really feeling they fitted in anywhere.

    But you're not going to find chavs there, you don't get to go and work in a foreign country unless you have some skill that's in demand so ex-pats are usually well off, and these schools are not free.

    Jun 01st, 2017 - 10:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • :o))

    Chaos WILL continue taking hold of Brazil: http://politica.estadao.com.br/blogs/fausto-macedo/a-igualdade-nao-e-opcao-e-uma-imposicao-diz-carmen/

    Jun 02nd, 2017 - 11:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Mr. DemonTree...
    Try to read was is written...before answering to something it hasn't been said..., laddie...:

    《“Evidently you haven't been in what we once called “third word countries” and mingled with the S O N S & D A U G H T E R S of the Ex-Pat Engrish resident colony there...”》

    WHAT WAS SAID IS THAT IT IS THE “SONS & DAUGHTERS OF THOSE SKILLED EX PATS THAT ARE THE...: ” Highly educated ignorant rich Engrish chavs with white supremacist death squad tendencies”...
    - Like Turnip Jack Bauer...

    You capisce now...?

    Jun 02nd, 2017 - 02:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    Think, do you understand the British class system at all? Chav is a word usually used for young people, and the children of rich parents who go to fancy private schools are never considered chavs, no matter what kind of little shits they might be. Plus it would be highly unlikely that someone who didn't grow up in that subculture would be considered one later.

    Don't the richer people in Argentina have insulting names for the poor and uneducated ones? Descamisados?

    Jun 02nd, 2017 - 04:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • :o))

    Chaos IS taking hold and that too not just in Brazil! :o))

    Jun 02nd, 2017 - 05:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Mr. DemonTree...
    What you say is absolutely correct... in Britain...
    But..., out here..., those little rich shiats do..., all too often ..., become highly educated ignorant Engrish chavs with white supremacist death squad tendencies...

    Turnip Jack Bauer is THE perfect example...

    Jun 02nd, 2017 - 06:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    I don't see much evidence of it. But I have a question:

    If Jack Bauer doesn't feel Brazilian, is it because of something Brazil has done, or not done?

    And if certain immigrants in Britain don't feel British, it is because of something Britain has done, or not done?

    Jun 02nd, 2017 - 08:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Mr. DemonTree...

    That' a fair question...

    But I don't Think yo will like me answer...:

    IMHO..., In My Own Experience...and generally speaking..., I would say that a privileged Anglo as Turnip Jack Bauer..., has had all and every oportunitiy in the world to fully integrate with any of our societies... and has fully conscientiously chosen not to...

    IMHO..., In My Own Experience... and generally speaking..., I would say that an underprivileged foreigner..., lets call him Bujo Mohammad Ali Bujumbura..., hasn't had or has all that many opportunities to integrate fully or even partially in a first world society... even if he tries as hard as hell...

    Jun 02nd, 2017 - 09:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    @Think
    I always assumed that if people didn't integrate then Britain must be doing something wrong, but you have made me reconsider. I'm sure it is a very different experience as an immigrant in those two scenarios, although I'm not convinced the former is truly any more conducive to integrating. Maybe to fitting in with the cosmopolitan elite, but not with the ordinary people.

    But as well as being educated with mostly other British people, JB said there were certain aspects of Brazilian culture he didn't like, and presumably doesn't want to identify with - does that sound about right, Jack?

    If that is also true of immigrants to Britain then I think it's a bigger problem. If they don't consider themselves British because they are not willing to accept British culture or, more importantly, values, then there's not much we can do about it.

    Is “Bujo Mohammad Ali Bujumbura” an actual person or just a name you made up?

    Jun 02nd, 2017 - 09:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    @DT
    There were, and still are, a lot of British companies established in Brazil…the English school was originally founded to attend the British community, whether here for 3 years or for good. Many well-to-do Brazilians wanted to put their kids through English school, as they wanted them to learn English properly, but only in the late 60’s did they start to be admitted in any significant number, after the BCCC , seeing the possibilities, started preparing plans for expansion.
    Outside of school I had plenty of Brazilian friends, mainly those who lived in the same neighbourhood, and from a Brazilian club I was also a member of.
    Corporal punishment was common, but you had to get caught doing something pretty unacceptable…for lesser screw-ups you got detention, or had to write ‘lines’. I’m not advocating corporal punishment should be applied today, but teachers should have total authority in the classroom…to get rid of the trouble-makers.

    I see that McStink has been busy exercising his psychiatric skills, which aren't very good....
    One thing the Chubut turnip should learn, is that it is perfectly normal to absorb, or adapt to, different cultures, and it is normal that one's native culture speak louder... eventual issues I might have with some brazilians, are no different to those I might have with people from other countries, or cultures.
    For the Chubut turnip's information, I'm fully 'adapted' to the Brazilian way-of-life, understanding their customs, and accepting most....not all...I don't like ones in which animals are maltreated...they have something similar to bullfighting down south, where the bull has no chance ; similar to the disgusting killing of baby seals in Norway ; and sometimes you don't even always agree with customs from your own culture...therefore you don't need to follow every local custom in order to integrate. the Chubutee turnip would know this if he had ever left his hole and travelled, or had lived abroad.

    Jun 03rd, 2017 - 09:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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