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Six people killed and 48 injured in terror incident in London; three attackers shot dead

Sunday, June 4th 2017 - 09:49 UTC
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Six people have been killed and at least 48 injured in a terror incident in London in which three male attackers were shot dead by police. A white van hit pedestrians on London Bridge at about 22:00 BST on Saturday, then three men got out and stabbed people in nearby Borough Market. Police said the three men were wearing fake bomb vests. Read full article

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  • golfcronie

    Terrorists ought to be treated as serial killers and the UK should bring back the death penalty for those convicted of terrorism.( If not shot dead at the scene ) Why is it the terrorists use Islam as their religion, is it because almost all are of Asian extraction?

    Jun 04th, 2017 - 10:24 am - Link - Report abuse +1
  • DemonTree

    Most of them want to die, we probably shouldn't give them what they want. They should be locked up for life though, no parole.

    The Westminster attacker in March wasn't of Asian extraction, he was a convert to Islam. If he'd picked a different religion maybe he'd be a productive citizen today instead of a mass murderer. AFAIK terrorism has now spread to all the predominantly Muslim countries, it seems like some people are just looking for an excuse to act on their worst instincts, and groups like ISIS are giving it to them.

    May said “Enough is enough”, but what can she do? You can't ban cars and knives and you can't catch everyone, especially if they are 'self radicalised' and have no contacts with organised terrorist groups.

    Jun 04th, 2017 - 10:53 am - Link - Report abuse +2
  • AustrOllOpithecus

    The UK wants in international meeting about terrorism. But why would anyone cooperate with UK given how the UK has been so uncooperative with others in other areas? Its a give and take, diplomacy.

    Jun 04th, 2017 - 12:47 pm - Link - Report abuse -5
  • LEPRecon

    Tobias the silly troll.

    The UK is one of the most cooperative countries in the world, unlike your beloved Argentina.

    The UK provides intelligence on terrorism to many different countries in the world...even to Argentina.

    Whereas the Argentine government made a deal with the terrorists who murdered Argentine citizens.

    Must make you feel proud to know that the lives of Argentine citizens are disregarded so casually by your government.

    In the meantime, in the grown up world, there needs to be more cooperation to combat extremism. There isn't enough, and too many looney left countries refuse to accept that its a problem.

    So its time for a true international effort...starting, IMO, by placing sanctions against Saudi Arabia which funds many of these terrorists.

    Jun 04th, 2017 - 01:37 pm - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Brasileiro

    Why can not we comment on other articles?

    Where is Briton? Did something happen to him?

    Jun 04th, 2017 - 01:41 pm - Link - Report abuse -5
  • AustrOllOpithecus

    Argentina has no need for terrorism intelligence. We are a terrorism free country.

    But I hope you do stop tolerating extremist mosques and yes there should be World sanctions against Saudi Arabia retroactively, even if they don't fund groups now they did in the past and helped spawn fundamentalist, so they should now be obligated to use all funds to solve the problem by re-education and neutralizing the threats today.

    Jun 04th, 2017 - 02:06 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • golfcronie

    AO for once you make sense.

    Jun 04th, 2017 - 02:16 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Brasileiro

    Briton died?

    Jun 04th, 2017 - 02:25 pm - Link - Report abuse -4
  • Jack Bauer

    @AustrollPrikelus
    “The UK wants in international meeting about terrorism. But why would anyone cooperate with UK given how the UK has been so uncooperative with others in other areas? Its a give and take, diplomacy.”

    Rather a broad statement....name a few areas in which the UK has been so uncooperative with others....

    “Argentina has no need for terrorism intelligence”

    Really ? that's why I suppose it was so easy for Iranian terrorists to blow up the Israeli embassy in 1992, and the AMIA in 1994 ? killing 114 and wounding 400....indeed, a “terrorism-free” country......let's just hope it stays that way, but bear in mind, no country is safe from these Islamic radicals.

    . We are a terrorism free country.

    Jun 04th, 2017 - 03:25 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • AustrOllOpithecus

    I think the terrorists have figured out they can attack any capital city at will at any time in any place. Why bother coming all the wsy down here since absolutely no one in the rest of the world would care if Argentines are killed in a terrorist attack.

    There has not been an attack here in a quarter century. I'd say that is terror free.

    Jun 04th, 2017 - 04:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    Olympic Games and World Cup....

    Zero.

    The problem is England, USA, France. Not ours.

    Jun 04th, 2017 - 05:17 pm - Link - Report abuse -4
  • golfcronie

    Brasso, the terrorists probably don't know you exist, I mean it is the arsehole of the world down there.

    Jun 04th, 2017 - 06:40 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • DemonTree

    @Brasileiro
    True, there was at least one terrorist plot in Brazil because of the Olympics, but now those are over neither Argentina nor Brazil has much to worry about.

    It's not only Britain, France and the USA who have problems though. All of the Middle East, South Asia, Indonesia and Malaysia have been affected. That's plenty of countries for an international meeting. Germany has suffered some attacks too, it seems no good deed goes unpunished.

    Jun 04th, 2017 - 06:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    Briton?

    Jun 04th, 2017 - 07:08 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • AustrOllOpithecus

    Golfcronie allows me to rest swiftly rest my case.

    He proves what I said: if terror struck over here, no Anglo, EUian, or NorthAmoan would give a frrk, and certainly not be demanding an international meeting, since the lives of people in the arse of Earth don't have any value.

    Of course Golfie will point out that I myself said no one cares about people down here and I did say it because it is true, that doesn't mean he has the right to say it, or that it is right. If South Americans said they didn't care about the dead in Europe there would be fury, but the other way around it is accepted.

    Ultimately, the mindset of the average EUian, Britto, or NorthAmoan of not caring for other lives that or not part of their clique, is not soo far removed from that of those trying to foment dread and fear.

    Jun 04th, 2017 - 07:42 pm - Link - Report abuse -4
  • DemonTree

    @AustrOllOpithecus
    I think if there was an terror attack in Argentina it would definitely be reported in the UK, we certainly heard about the ones in India and Pakistan, and the major ones in the Middle East are reported although they don't get as many column inches as those in France and Germany. People care more about their own fellow citizens but they do care about other people in the world, and even if they didn't that's a long way from going out and murdering them.

    Also if there was an attack in Argentina it would be your job to request an international meeting.

    How much do you see about these attacks in Argentina anyway? I assume your papers are more interested in what is happening in your own country?

    @Brasileiro
    Briton hasn't posted for a while, we don't know where he has gone.

    Jun 04th, 2017 - 08:22 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Brasileiro

    I'll see you!

    Briton!

    Jun 04th, 2017 - 09:30 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Hepatia

    The question is why is this piece appearing in Mercopenguin, a propaganda organ supposedly devoted to America, South America and the “South Atlantic”?

    Jun 05th, 2017 - 03:02 am - Link - Report abuse -4
  • Heisenbergcontext

    There are a number of reasons why these kinds of terrorist attacks are so difficult to detect and prevent.

    They don't require a grand conspiracy, or a long incubation period to be enacted. The willingness of the terrorists to die in the attack; the easy access to vast amounts of material on the internet both providing practical information and encouragement, and the youthfulness of many of these attackers - who are both more likely to be impulsive and are easier to manipulate - is a potent cocktail.

    I believe alienation and resentment are as much a motive as any moral outrage regarding the West's participation in middle-eastern conflicts and given how common those two attributes are in any western country, the problems of detection are obvious.

    Jun 05th, 2017 - 04:57 am - Link - Report abuse +5
  • golfcronie

    Oh dear AO, you obviously do not comprehend English per se, where did I mention “ people ” in my post? There is no advantage in attacking anyone at random in Latam as it would not make headlines. So they would not get propagander. Do you understand now? Incidently I lived in Argentina for a while and have an ex-wife who was from Argentina so I know what I am talking about. The only headlines coming out of Latam countries is the eternal cry of “Corruption” nothing else happens there apart from violent demonstrations.

    Jun 05th, 2017 - 09:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    AO
    It is a fact of human nature that you are more interested in your own neighbourhood than a distant land.
    If someone was murdered in my town,it would get more column inches in our local press or TV news than someone murdered in a small town in England. If it happened in France, it would not make the news. The same with gang murders in Mexico, Brazil or any other distant country. They would get a brief mention and no more. People here would not be particularly interested as it is beyond their comprehension.

    There are terrible atrocities in Afghanistan, Pakistan and other Muslim countries. These are Muslims killing Muslims in the name of Allah the merciful and compassionate.

    Muslim fundamentalists have a hatred of the western way of life and Christianity wherever it is practised. S.America is lucky because it is physically isolated from the problem. It is not because they think you are an OK region. The long term plan is to either convert the world to a barbaric misinterpretation of Islam or destroy the unbelievers.

    Your time may yet come and being smug will not help you.

    Jun 05th, 2017 - 09:48 am - Link - Report abuse +3
  • AustrOllOpithecus

    Golfcronie you prove my point again and as a bonus you refute Clyde's post too all in one stone's throw.

    The reason an attack would not make headlines in EUialand, Brittoland, and NorthAmoland is because you don't give a shit about anyone outside your race. The fact you state the only headlines over there about SA are corruption not only shows how ignorant you idiots really are, but on top of it all you are selectively spiteful in creating a totally distorted image of a whole region. So what if in Argentina all that was reported about Europe was terrorism and mass unemployment everywhere... is that a fair portrait?

    And because you are so self-centered the terrorists won't attack here. Because they know you won't care, and you may even be glad they took it all to SA and away from Europe. Then terrorism would no longer be a problem for you... and we all know that is exactly what would happen. If terrorists tomorrow stopped attacking NorthAm and EUia and massively started attacking SA, Europe and North America would not move and eyelash. So frankly, why should we care now?

    Because the terrorist hate you, not us. That is why they want your attention. If they hated us here there are enough crazies in a population of 1.7 billion to have a few bounce about here. But they don't attack here.

    So it's not physical isolation. As much as Brittos, EUians, and NorthAmoans don't want to hear this in times of death of innocents in your streets... this crazy extremism did not start in a vacuum. Maybe, just maybe, your government many years ago did some terrible things around the world, and now finally the backwaves are splashing into your living rooms.

    Jun 05th, 2017 - 01:23 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Clyde15

    AO

    “So frankly, why should we care now?”

    There were Argentinian tourists in the area on Saturday who were interviewed on BBC TV.

    They could just as easily been killed or injured in the attack.

    “Because the terrorist hate you, not us”

    The terrorists do not ask about ethnic origin when they drive a van into a crowd, S.Americans stand an equal chance of being killed if they are unlucky enough to be there at the time -or anywhere in the world because you follow western civilization beliefs in democracy and religion..

    The jihadists are killing thousands of their own “race” and religion in Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, Libya etc. Not Europeans or N.Americans. If there were any Argentinians out there, they also would be targets.

    If DAESH overrun Arab states, the next step would be to expand their territories. if they took over Pakistan, they would have access to nuclear weapons and would use them in the name of “ALLAH”
    No doubt they would have a go at the Vatican where the arch Satan lives ruling over millions of unbelieving Christians.

    Your arguments are flavoured by your hatred of the “Anglos” and do not consider the matter in the round.

    You will be affected sooner or later whatever you think.

    Jun 05th, 2017 - 06:03 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • AustrOllOpithecus

    Would European and North American governments and most of the citizenry even care and take action in money and intelligence if terrorists tomorrow stopped attacking you and started bombing SA? Yes or No.

    Jun 05th, 2017 - 08:46 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • DemonTree

    @AO
    What actions are European and North American governments asking South Americans to take now? Are you giving us money and intelligence to help? Definitely not the former, maybe from some governments the latter. I think there's a damn sight more chance we would give you money and intelligence to counter Islamic terrorism if it ever affected you.

    Golfcronie doesn't contradict Clyde's post either:

    “It is a fact of human nature that you are more interested in your own neighbourhood than a distant land.”

    This is the truth. We care more about people in Britain than France or Germany, and more about people in Europe than those in South America. The news in Britain is slanted towards what affects Britain and British people, and the same thing is true in other countries. Two people were murdered fairly near where I live last year, but you never heard about it because it's not of interest to people in Argentina or any other country. You only hear about the big events like terror attacks, and we only hear about the big events in South America like the referendum in Colombia that failed to pass.

    Jun 05th, 2017 - 09:29 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • golfcronie

    I am sure if Latam countries asked for intelligence then it would be afforded to them.

    Jun 05th, 2017 - 09:38 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Jack Bauer

    @AustrollPrikelus
    It's a notorious fact that the “triple-frontier” as it is called down here, where Brazil, Argentina and Paraguay meet, is a hotbed for sleeper terrorist cells.....I don't what it would take to make them wake up, and I have no desire to find out, but it's naive to believe you are 100% safe just because you are relatively distant from the attacks.

    Jun 05th, 2017 - 09:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    AO
    I would say that if S.A. was being attacked by terrorists then Europe and N.America would help certainly with intelligence and probably with military action against terrorist bases if help was requested. It could be our turn next.

    To quote John Donne:-

    “No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent.
    Any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in Mankind; And therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.”

    Jun 05th, 2017 - 10:36 pm - Link - Report abuse +1

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