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Theresa May puts tackling suspected terrorists above human rights laws

Wednesday, June 7th 2017 - 06:26 UTC
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UK Prime Minister Theresa May has said she will change human rights laws if they “get in the way” of tackling suspected terrorists. The PM said she would make it easier to deport foreign terror suspects and “restrict the freedom and movements” of those that present a threat. Labour said it was “not the message that we should be sending”. Read full article


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  • golfcronie

    Exactly right, my human right is to walk down the street in safety and not be attacked by some Islamic maniac.My human rights are affected by these nutters

    Jun 07th, 2017 - 04:43 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • DemonTree

    This is just what I was afraid of. She's been wanting to roll back human rights laws for a long time, now Brexit has given her the means and terrorists have given her the opportunity. Imprisonment without trial has been banned in the UK since the Magna Carta, and now May wants to bring it back because it's cheaper and easier than employing more police.

    And people like golfcronie support it because they don't imagine they or their family and friends will be the ones imprisoned for a month without charge or subjected to punishment without trial, and who cares what happens to Muslims anyway?

    Jun 07th, 2017 - 05:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Don Alberto

    Yes, Imprisonment without trial has been banned in the UK since the Magna Carta, yet used extensively against members of the IRA.

    Jun 08th, 2017 - 05:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    @Don Alberto
    So it was. From Wikipedia:

    ”Historians generally view the period of internment as inflaming sectarian tensions in Northern Ireland, while failing in its goal of arresting key members of the IRA. Many of the people arrested had no links whatsoever with the IRA, but their names appeared on the list of those to be arrested through bungling and incompetence. The list's lack of reliability and the arrests that followed, complemented by reports of internees being abused far in excess of the usual state violence, led to more nationalists identifying with the IRA and losing hope in non-violent methods. After Operation Demetrius, recruits came forward in huge numbers to join the Provisional and Official wings of the IRA. Internment also led to a sharp increase in violence. In the eight months before the operation, there were 34 conflict-related deaths in Northern Ireland. In the four months following it, 140 were killed. A serving officer of the British Royal Marines declared:

    It (internment) has, in fact, increased terrorist activity, perhaps boosted IRA recruitment, polarised further the Catholic and Protestant communities and reduced the ranks of the much needed Catholic moderates.

    In terms of loss of life, 1972 was the most violent year of the Troubles. The fatal march on Bloody Sunday (30 January 1972) in Derry, when 14 unarmed civil rights protesters were shot dead by British paratroopers, was an anti-internment march.”

    Wow, ignoring human rights laws produced such great results in the past! I can see why our government is so keen to repeat this experience (not).

    Jun 08th, 2017 - 10:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    Yes Demon, I would not be arrested and kept locked up for a long time as I would NOT be in a position to be arrested.How on earth did you get the idea that I dislike “ muslims ” from my post. Read it again carefully“ I said ” Islamic maniac “ Are these maniacs not doing this under the unbrella of Islam. What does ”Islamic State” mean to you?

    Jun 08th, 2017 - 07:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    You are not a Muslim so there is no chance that you will be suspected by the police and locked up for 28 days without being charged with anything, or have your freedom and movements restricted without a trial. The problem with punishing people without a trial is that they may not actually be guilty, and for the effect on their communities see above.

    I did not get the idea that you dislike muslims from your post, I got the idea that you don't care if they are wrongly arrested, have their lives disrupted and freedom curtailed indefinitely based only on suspicion, and I suspect you wouldn't be so willing to agree to it if you thought it might affect you or your family. No doubt it seems a good bargain to you, giving up other people's rights to try and make yourself slightly safer.

    Personally I agree with Benjamin Franklin:

    “Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.”

    Jun 10th, 2017 - 12:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0

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