The first day of the G20 summit is nearly over, and on Friday afternoon in Hamburg, British Prime Minister Theresa May canceled her solo meeting with Argentine President Mauricio Macri due to “scheduling problems.” Read full article
Macri had high hopes in a photo beside May, and as the story notes, the president 's entourage scrambled to reschedule--to no avail in the end.
May met with Trump all right though.
It needs to be remembered that Macri is a specialist in monumental gaffes--after a previous encounter, Macri revealed that May was ready to discuss the Malvinas issue--which was immediately denied by May.
Diplomacy at its best.
Diplomacy is the art of saying 'nice doggie' until you can find a rock.
At least Macri won't be insisting that Argentina has less poverty than Germany, as would be the case with a certain perpetually mendacious former presidenta.
Macri is guilty of being foolish only by following the obligatory position that Argentina is actively seeking dialogue with the UK, in order to please the masses.
It's a hold over from Peron, and a holdover from the K regime's agenda to confront and badger the UK over the Falklands.
It proved embarrassing for Malcorra - she realised how stupid and economically anti-productive it is.
The reality is, Argentina doesn't expect or want dialogue.
Hector Timmerman ran away in London when he was granted his request.
Doesn't Argentistan realise that all this che, we wanna meeting to monologue with xxx is just another way of saying to the world, see what a failure we are? ¿viste?
It's 2017 and because of Argentina the Falklands are inalterably British.
T May offered Macri the opportunity to have a short private discussion. Argentine interpretation of the offer = She asked them for a meeting. Not quite the same thing. Sovereignty was not on the agenda. It never will be.
Interesting ! I think that the only way we can resolve the story of Thatcher giving away the Falklands is to hold a seance.
As to two Bell UH 11 helicopters being used to infiltrate troops to the Falklands, I have a couple of doubts about the feasibility of this.
1) The Huey has a range of 455 km. Closest point to the Falklands is about 400km.
No room for error and no fuel for the return trip. Sounds like a suicide mission.
2) Would the RAF shoot them down as the radar systems there should be able to pick them out a sea...possible. If they tried to jam our radars then it could be construed as an act of war with dire consequences to the perpetrators.
Here in Argentina I don't see any reporting on that helicopter incursion silliness other than to cite the UK media story. It seems improbable but since the argies are famous for their unquenchable proclivity for absurdity we can't rule out some small kernel of truth in it.
What's the probability of those helicopters successfully reaching the Falklands and landing safely? (Rather dubious. Flying NOE at night? Stupidly risky. Wave action covers the canopies with salt spray and blinds the pilots. And likely to be detected by ATC at more than 200 km, so what is the point?).
Sacrifice two operational helicopters for a meaningless stunt? (well, they *ARE* argies after all. But they are not exactly overrun with disposable operational helicopters).
How long after their capture would these invaders be sent back to Argentina in handcuffs? Assuming they would be permitted to return anytime soon.
Embarrass the Macri government? It's already embarrassing. But putting rogue troops in prison might actually gain him some points.
Embarrass the UK government? The far more likely result would be a closing of ranks in the UK to deal with fresh evidence of argie aggression, and increased support for greater defensive measures on the islands. In other words, entirely counterproductive. Achieving what the argies would call increased militarisation of the South Atlantic. And adding another 200 years before the islanders might wish to discuss anything with Argentina.
A silly idea, even for the demonstrably silly argentines.
Given that some of them regard Miguel Fitzgerald as a hero who knows how their minds work? ;-D http://en.mercopress.com/2014/09/08/fifty-years-since-falklands-incursion-and-landing-by-argentine-light-aircraft
I for one was shocked by the recent report by the Argentine Observatory of Social and Business Trends that states a high proportion of Argies are narcissists (45 percent), obsessive (32 percent), given to histrionics (32 percent) and paranoid (30 percent).
Stereotyping a country and its people is an exercise in futility. Anyone with average education level and some experience abroad will know that all sorts of individuals can be found in any human group.
However, it is a trait of individuals suffering from an inferiority complex to seek personal relief in looking down on others who may belong to a certain religion, politics, or origin.
Poor Marti. Must have a pretty sad and lonely life to be spending so much time and energy putting down a whole people just to try and find validation from MP readers. It is true that he did find the right audience here.
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Disclaimer & comment rulesMacri had high hopes in a photo beside May, and as the story notes, the president 's entourage scrambled to reschedule--to no avail in the end.
Jul 08th, 2017 - 02:00 pm - Link - Report abuse -3May met with Trump all right though.
It needs to be remembered that Macri is a specialist in monumental gaffes--after a previous encounter, Macri revealed that May was ready to discuss the Malvinas issue--which was immediately denied by May.
Diplomacy at its best.
Diplomacy is the art of saying 'nice doggie' until you can find a rock.
Jul 08th, 2017 - 02:26 pm - Link - Report abuse +5At least Macri won't be insisting that Argentina has less poverty than Germany, as would be the case with a certain perpetually mendacious former presidenta.
Macri is guilty of being foolish only by following the obligatory position that Argentina is actively seeking dialogue with the UK, in order to please the masses.
Jul 08th, 2017 - 05:20 pm - Link - Report abuse +4It's a hold over from Peron, and a holdover from the K regime's agenda to confront and badger the UK over the Falklands.
It proved embarrassing for Malcorra - she realised how stupid and economically anti-productive it is.
The reality is, Argentina doesn't expect or want dialogue.
Hector Timmerman ran away in London when he was granted his request.
Doesn't Argentistan realise that all this che, we wanna meeting to monologue with xxx is just another way of saying to the world, see what a failure we are? ¿viste?
Jul 08th, 2017 - 07:05 pm - Link - Report abuse +4It's 2017 and because of Argentina the Falklands are inalterably British.
Wake up and smell the yerba.
T May offered Macri the opportunity to have a short private discussion. Argentine interpretation of the offer = She asked them for a meeting. Not quite the same thing. Sovereignty was not on the agenda. It never will be.
Jul 09th, 2017 - 05:41 am - Link - Report abuse +4If Macri or anyone else in the Republic of Argentina want to know UK government policy regarding the Falkland Islands it is freely available.
Jul 09th, 2017 - 07:06 am - Link - Report abuse +4https://www.gov.uk/government/policies/falkland-islanders-right-to-self-determination
No meetings are required.
The Argentinians pretend that self-determination does not apply to the Falkland Islanders. The evidence suggests otherwise.
Jul 09th, 2017 - 04:01 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Falklands – Self -Determination: https://www.academia.edu/11325329/Falklands_-_Self-Determination_single_page_
Argentina - the comedy gift that keeps on giving
Jul 09th, 2017 - 07:08 pm - Link - Report abuse +1http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/826396/falklands-secret-plan-argentina-flag-spark-chaos
;-D
Marti, you have a good sense of humour, I like that.
Jul 09th, 2017 - 08:13 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Stoker
Jul 10th, 2017 - 05:08 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Interesting ! I think that the only way we can resolve the story of Thatcher giving away the Falklands is to hold a seance.
As to two Bell UH 11 helicopters being used to infiltrate troops to the Falklands, I have a couple of doubts about the feasibility of this.
1) The Huey has a range of 455 km. Closest point to the Falklands is about 400km.
No room for error and no fuel for the return trip. Sounds like a suicide mission.
2) Would the RAF shoot them down as the radar systems there should be able to pick them out a sea...possible. If they tried to jam our radars then it could be construed as an act of war with dire consequences to the perpetrators.
3) Or is it just MORE Argie bullshit
Here in Argentina I don't see any reporting on that helicopter incursion silliness other than to cite the UK media story. It seems improbable but since the argies are famous for their unquenchable proclivity for absurdity we can't rule out some small kernel of truth in it.
Jul 11th, 2017 - 01:02 am - Link - Report abuse +1Argie media citing the UK report:
http://www.eldestapeweb.com/advierten-que-militares-planean-un-complot-llegar-malvinas-e-izar-alli-la-bandera-n30750
But let's think about this:
What's the probability of those helicopters successfully reaching the Falklands and landing safely? (Rather dubious. Flying NOE at night? Stupidly risky. Wave action covers the canopies with salt spray and blinds the pilots. And likely to be detected by ATC at more than 200 km, so what is the point?).
Sacrifice two operational helicopters for a meaningless stunt? (well, they *ARE* argies after all. But they are not exactly overrun with disposable operational helicopters).
How long after their capture would these invaders be sent back to Argentina in handcuffs? Assuming they would be permitted to return anytime soon.
Embarrass the Macri government? It's already embarrassing. But putting rogue troops in prison might actually gain him some points.
Embarrass the UK government? The far more likely result would be a closing of ranks in the UK to deal with fresh evidence of argie aggression, and increased support for greater defensive measures on the islands. In other words, entirely counterproductive. Achieving what the argies would call increased militarisation of the South Atlantic. And adding another 200 years before the islanders might wish to discuss anything with Argentina.
A silly idea, even for the demonstrably silly argentines.
Given that some of them regard Miguel Fitzgerald as a hero who knows how their minds work? ;-D
Jul 11th, 2017 - 09:58 am - Link - Report abuse +2http://en.mercopress.com/2014/09/08/fifty-years-since-falklands-incursion-and-landing-by-argentine-light-aircraft
I for one was shocked by the recent report by the Argentine Observatory of Social and Business Trends that states a high proportion of Argies are narcissists (45 percent), obsessive (32 percent), given to histrionics (32 percent) and paranoid (30 percent).
You couldn't make this stuff up! ;-D
Stoker, you mustn't be shocked. It's true. And those are some of the better qualities.
Jul 11th, 2017 - 01:36 pm - Link - Report abuse +3La personalidad de los argentinos: entre el narcisismo, la obsesión y el histrionismo
http://www.lanacion.com.ar/2040111-la-personalidad-de-los-argentinos-entre-el-narcisismo-la-obsesion-y-el-histrionismo
What they failed to note is that most endearing personality trait: mendacity.
Stereotyping a country and its people is an exercise in futility. Anyone with average education level and some experience abroad will know that all sorts of individuals can be found in any human group.
Jul 12th, 2017 - 03:58 am - Link - Report abuse -1However, it is a trait of individuals suffering from an inferiority complex to seek personal relief in looking down on others who may belong to a certain religion, politics, or origin.
Poor Marti. Must have a pretty sad and lonely life to be spending so much time and energy putting down a whole people just to try and find validation from MP readers. It is true that he did find the right audience here.
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