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Falklands' 2016 Census (I): Population 3.200; Camp increased 9%, for the first since 1950s'

Saturday, July 22nd 2017 - 08:13 UTC
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The Falkland Islands government Policy and Economic Unit has released the 2016 Census Report (*) which indicates that the total number of people counted in the Islands on census night, 9 October 2016, was 3,354. This figure includes visitors to the Islands and people who are not normally resident in the country, for example tourists or crew on vessels in Falklands waters on census night. Read full article

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  • Roger Lorton

    For all those that wish to suggest that it is just outsiders that is boosting the Falklands population, perhaps I should remind you that the UK's population has been increased by 250,000 every year for the last 12 years by immigration.

    Seems normal enough.

    Jul 22nd, 2017 - 12:29 pm - Link - Report abuse +7
  • Think

    For all those that wish to suggest that it is just outsiders that is boosting the Falklands population, perhaps I should remind you that the UK's population has been increased by 250,000 every year for the last 12 years by immigration.

    Look how it's going.

    Jul 22nd, 2017 - 12:57 pm - Link - Report abuse -9
  • Jo Bloggs

    Dear oh dear. Isn't a big part of the Malvinista's argument that we're all put here by England? It would seem we're not...and before any of you deadbeats challenge the figure...they weren't thrown together by Crissy's INDEC.

    Chuckle chuckle.

    Jul 22nd, 2017 - 03:09 pm - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Brit Bob

    And some would say that the Islanders do not have the right to self-determination.

    Strange.

    Falklands – Self -Determination: https://www.academia.edu/11325329/Falklands_-_Self-Determination_single_page_

    Jul 22nd, 2017 - 03:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    @Think
    How did it go for Argentina?

    Jul 22nd, 2017 - 03:53 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Roger Lorton

    At least people wish to come to the UK, Think. What's Argentina's rate?

    Jul 22nd, 2017 - 03:56 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Clyde15

    Think


    Clarification needed . What is your point ?

    Jul 22nd, 2017 - 04:45 pm - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Jo Bloggs

    I wish a few of our new Philippino friends would think about opening an Asian take-away.

    Jul 22nd, 2017 - 05:07 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • jlock

    Considering there's around 2 million foreigners living in Argentina I think its safe to say a decent amount of people want to live there too

    Jul 23rd, 2017 - 02:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Roger Lorton

    So, immigration all round then? :-)

    Jul 23rd, 2017 - 06:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Kipper

    England will return the Malvinas within 25 years.

    Jul 23rd, 2017 - 07:50 am - Link - Report abuse -1
  • gordo1

    block

    Yes - just like all the indigent peoples from, for example, Bolivia, Perú and Paraguay!

    Viz :Immigration into Argentina. Argentina (36 million population) is a magnet for migrants from Bolivia (seven million), Peru (24 million) and Paraguay (five million). Argentina has an estimated 200,000 illegal immigrants. This information is from Wikipedia and the figure for Perú seems suspicious!

    Jul 23rd, 2017 - 07:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • jlock

    gordo1

    Yes most of the immigrants are from countries near Argentina, similar to the UK and well pretty much every single other country in the world when it comes to immigrants. I also think calling them indigent is inaccurate and rude but if you feel like being wrong go ahead

    Jul 23rd, 2017 - 09:58 am - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Think

    TWIMC...

    Interesting...

    The Falklands 2016 Census results ain't yet available online...
    I just wanted to chech how many of those 300+ inhabitants are young Filipino Mail Order Brides replacing them good old Kelper sheep...

    PS...
    Don't worry Jo Bloggs...
    If things with them Asian lasses evolve in them windblown South Atlantic Islands as they did in them windblown North Atlantic Islands (Færøerne)..., you will soon have more than enough “China Grills”..., run by newly divorcees....

    Jul 23rd, 2017 - 10:04 am - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Livingthedream

    Any Americans living there?

    Jul 23rd, 2017 - 12:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jo Bloggs

    Think
    I thought the report was available online but I'll take your word for it. I have a copy and I think I downloaded from somewhere online. Anyway to answer your question, there is a significant number of Phillipinos here but I don't recall one of the questions on the census being “were you a mail order bride?” So I am not sure if you'll find the number you're looking for. Though I'm sure that won't stop you from making it up and trying to make some pointless claim.

    Remember though Thinky, the more non-English there are here the more the Malvinista's favourite claim of “everyone being placed there from England” goes down the drain.

    LTD
    Not very many at all actually. You won't like the comparison but there are quite a few Canadians but not many from South of the border. We get a lot of American visitors but for some reason very few ever move here; short term or otherwise.

    Jul 23rd, 2017 - 12:39 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Think

    Jo.....

    Q...: Gender...?
    A...: Female...

    Q...: Nationality...?
    A...: Filipina...

    Q...: Age...?
    A...: You don't ask such from a lady...!

    Q...: Reason for immigrating into this windblown British Overseas Territorry...?
    A...: Marriage with a local...

    -Ergo...: Post Order Bride...
    No Rocket science here half bennie Jo...
    As real Kelper Islander1 just wrote in another thread...:
    《“People cannot choose the land of their birth - but with some luck.............”》
    Well.........., Lucky is most of those young lasses middle name...

    Jul 23rd, 2017 - 02:06 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Roger Lorton

    I went out and married a Thai lass Think, does that make me a 'Post Order' Groom?

    Grow up old man, your prejudices are showing.

    Jul 23rd, 2017 - 06:28 pm - Link - Report abuse +3
  • Think

    Exactly..., Roger...

    WE went out and married foreign lasses...(A couple... in me case)
    That certainly does not qualify us as 'Post Order' Grooms...

    But........

    if some overmature foreign lass had picked us up from one of the many Internet Meat Catalogues..., flown us into their dens..., and because of our economic challenged position..., proffitted at will from our bodies during the long years necessary to get a residence in a “Promised Land of milk and honey”... then yes..., we would certainly qualify as ”Post Order' Grooms....

    Were are my prejucices...?

    Jul 23rd, 2017 - 07:06 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • gordo1

    jlock

    Dictionary definition of indigent:-

    “An indigent person is extremely poor, lacking the basic resources of a normal life. Often the indigent lack not only money but homes. Indigent comes from a Latin word meaning wanting, which we used to use to mean “lacking” and not just to describe desires.”

    Indigent seems to me to describe most of the bolivianos, paraguayos and peruanos who make up the mass of illegal immigrants in Argentina.

    Jul 23rd, 2017 - 08:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Correct... Anglo Turnip Gordo1...

    ... An indigent person is extremely poor, lacking the basic resources of a normal life...
    Indigent seems to me to describe most of the Filipino girls “legally” imported to Malvinas to serve the Anglo men...

    A holistic approach of the old “Fkuck the poor” concept........., I reckon...

    Jul 23rd, 2017 - 08:39 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Voice

    Got to be desperate to buy a post order bride...
    Also know a couple of guys that went to Thailand and came back with a bride plus free mother in law...
    They were both weirdos that no sensible woman would touch with a ten foot barge pole...

    Jul 23rd, 2017 - 10:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    Are mail order brides really that common? I  thought examples like Voice's friends, or Think and Roger were more common, of guys who meet a woman while abroad and get together.

    Jul 23rd, 2017 - 11:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Roger Lorton

    Voice - Free mother-in-law, niece, grandchild ........... the whole family in one go. Apparently there are more Thai brides in Germany than any other EU nation and, as a result, Thailand has set up counselling centres to help with the cultural gaps - including that you marry into the whole family. I love it, but that probably makes me look weird to an irritable Scot who, I assume, may have been touched with a 10 foot barge pole.

    Think - December 25th 1793, Jose Bustamente y Guerra, commander of Atrevida, arrived in Berkeley Sound. He recorded that the presidio consists of 102 people – the crew of the Santa Eulalia plus 38 convicts - and that unnatural offences were being committed due to the lack of women at the fort. He also noted that little effort is being made to grow vegetables.

    No women, no turnips. Well at least the Islanders have got to grips with one of the problems :-)

    Demon Tree - it's a complicated world. Room enough for all options I suspect. I've never met a Farang (white, western foreigner) with a Thai wife who he hadn't met in person many times before they married, but maybe I just don't get out enough.

    Jul 24th, 2017 - 05:16 am - Link - Report abuse +3
  • Think

    Unnatural...?

    Jul 25th, 2017 - 01:11 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • DemonTree

    I had a look at the census report and it lists 53 people with Filipino citizenship, but it doesn't say how many are men and how many women. It also says the large increase in Zimbabwean and Filipino residents since 2012 is due to specific employment sectors.

    Jul 25th, 2017 - 09:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    Roger Lorton

    Voice lives in Scotland but refuses to admit to any nationality.

    Jul 26th, 2017 - 08:33 am - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Tr0lListic_Approach

    Probably the Falklands will be forced to become independent in the next few years just to have the power to stem the collateral coming its way from the mass exodus of humanity from Brexitland as the economy there titanics.

    Jul 27th, 2017 - 09:32 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • DemonTree

    Ugh, Trollboy. Have you been replaced by someone who can't write goood English? I have no idea what you meant by collateral there, and verbing 'Titanic' is too obscure, it would be much more colloquial to write 'as the economy there does a Titanic', or if you want to sound more formal; 'as the economy there goes the way of the Titanic'.

    Anyway, you're wrong, because people from Britain already need a work permit to move to the Falklands. It's the same for all the BOTs, to prevent them getting swamped by immigrants. Some of them are very pleasant - and rich - Caribbean islands where this would be a real problem.

    Jul 27th, 2017 - 11:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Voice

    You don't have to be desperate to seek an Asian bride, just lonely. What's wrong with a lonely guy offering a poor Asian girl a better life to enjoy marriage children and companionship? The crass willy waving quisling Voice lacks humanity. Him and people like him contribute nothing to society and are interested in no one than themselves. He claims to have married someone from what is fast becoming the third world - America! What's the difference?

    Jul 28th, 2017 - 12:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Voice

    Yeah...again, don't shoot the messenger...
    ....and there is a difference marrying an American with a better degree than my own and a Thai bride with an average IQ of 91....

    “Sad, sleazy, desperate… men paying for love with Thai girls”
    https://www.thesun.co.uk/archives/news/75952/sad-sleazy-desperate-men-paying-for-love-with-thai-girls/

    Jul 28th, 2017 - 04:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Voice

    Degrees don't prove anything these days, increasingly worthless and seriously dumbed down, everyone with a sun 100 IQ can get one. As for that rag, you claim to have a degree and that's your newspaper...says it all ;-))) Inhabiting a place that's the Butt of Billy's humour, now that's really sad, rather sleazy too.

    Jul 28th, 2017 - 07:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Voice

    Oh dear that old chestnut about how easy a degree is...
    Always from folk...without one...
    As for the newspaper article...I merely typed into Google...“What type of men marry a Thai bride”...

    Sir Billy to you...

    Jul 28th, 2017 - 09:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    @TV
    Nothing wrong with two people getting together for mutual benefit even if it's not true love. But a guy picking a bribe from an online catalogue is definitely sleazy as hell.

    I don't know why everyone assumes that all women who aim to marry a foreigner for a better life are dumb or victims with no other options. And treating a guy as nothing but a ticket to a better life isn't a fantastic thing to do either. But it is still more risky for the women as they end up in a foreign country with no friends or family to rely on if things go wrong, a situation that's open to abuse.

    And yeah, you just made it obvious you don't have a degree. Even at former polytechnics where entry requirements are lower, people still have to work hard for their degrees, and the standards haven't changed at the best universities; if anything they are higher now because there is a lot more competition.

    Jul 28th, 2017 - 09:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    TWMC..
    Not to mention the fact that it is illegal...
    But what does white hillbillies ever cared about gooks laws...?
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti_Mail-Order_Bride_Law

    Jul 29th, 2017 - 06:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Voice

    Current A level students couldn't hack 1960's O Level exam papers! And to claim that degrees haven't dumbed down is clearly a comment from a dumb degree'd person. Where I trained in the 60s everyone got a degree plus real practical experience to go with it. Some of us did Masters, PhDs and Whitworth scholarships too as well as Arts degrees on the side.

    What's actually sleazy is reading sleaze in the redtops. The News of the World ain't no more but there's always The Sunday Herald... ;-)

    Jul 29th, 2017 - 07:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Voice

    “Where I trained in the 60s everyone got a degree plus real practical experience to go with it. Some of us did Masters, PhDs and Whitworth scholarships too as well as Arts degrees on the side.”
    Does this statement state that you have a degree or does it infer you have a degree or does it merely state that the people that trained you had degrees...?
    Slippery or what...;-)

    Jul 29th, 2017 - 12:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    @The Voice
    “Current A level students couldn't hack 1960's O Level exam papers!”

    That's quite possibly true. The content has changed a lot since the 1960s, and the style of questions also. It doesn't mean if you got in a time machine and gave a modern A-level paper to 60s O-level students that they would be remotely able to complete it.

    Anyway, I agree that GCSE's and A levels have been progressively dumbed down. At A-level, we were constantly being told “you should have learned this at GCSE”. At university, we were told “you should have learned this at A-level”. Once, we were given some really old past papers from the 80s to try and they were remarkably more difficult. Not only has content been cut over time, but modern exams have a style that holds your hand, giving you plenty of clues on what technique to use, and the sort of answer they are looking for. This is not necessarily a bad thing though. Having someone lose marks because they misinterpreted a free-form question does not give you a true picture of their abilities.

    At degree level though, I don't think this is so true. There is less pressure on universities to hand out high grades, although no doubt this is changing now students pay such high fees. Good universities can also pick the best students so there is no need for dumbing down. And as for those things we “should have learned at A-level”, we just had to do extra work to catch up.

    “Where I trained in the 60's...”

    If you have a degree yourself, why not just say so?

    Jul 30th, 2017 - 12:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0

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