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UK government show of unity: Hammond and Fox share a column in the Sunday Telegraph
The UK will need a transition period to help businesses adjust after Brexit, the chancellor and the international trade secretary have said. In a joint Sunday Telegraph article, Philip Hammond and Liam Fox stressed any deal would not be indefinite or a “back door” to staying in the EU. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesWill need a “transition” period?
Aug 14th, 2017 - 12:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The 'transition' period started the day AFTER the Brexit vote in 2016, where the UK had 9 “free months” to gather itself and formulate a comprehensive plan to make the change go smoothly. Instead it chose to do nothing, except bicker amongst themselves and make grandiose delusional statements about the UK's supposed clout in the negotiations with the EU.
And so far, since March, the UK has wasted yet another half year. That is 15 months where the UK has manage to achieve absolutely nothing.
And had the UK been a proper government, they would have used the months and even years before Brexit to gain even more time and have contingency plans in case a leave vote prevailed. At least another 12 to 24 free months right there.
So at least 28 months the UK has decided to burn up.
You still have a transitional period... 18 months left in it.
Tick tok tick tok...
“I already have announced that I will unilaterally lay off the British.”
Aug 14th, 2017 - 01:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0- Tr0lListic_Approach, 09/08/2017 (5 days ago)
Well, that didn't last long!
Nice that they can now agree we need a transition period, but what do they mean by one if we won't be in the single market or customs union? If we're not in those we'll need some new agreement anyway, why not go straight to the final deal?
And why didn't the ministers publish their papers setting out detailed aims for Brexit before it was triggered? What were they doing for all those months?
Hmmm... I said “lay off”. Not completely stop.
Aug 14th, 2017 - 04:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I will stop from completely frivolous criticisms, but this one is darn legitimate, and my Brits would agree.
“Lay off” means stop. But nice to see you admit some of your criticisms were completely frivolous. :)
Aug 14th, 2017 - 05:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You can see I agree with some of what you said, but you need to distinguish people from the government. It was mostly posters here who were making grandiose statements about the UK's clout, not the UK gvmt. Anyway you are still trolling as we can see from your tick-tock comment.
Similarly some of the posters here just criticise CFK, others also criticise her supporters, and some criticise Argentines in general (I'm sure you know who I'm talking about). There's a big difference.
Your Brits.? Are you so deluded that you think you have a core of acolytes ?
Aug 14th, 2017 - 07:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I assumed he meant to write “many”.
Aug 14th, 2017 - 07:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The question is why is this piece appearing in Mercopenguin, a British government propaganda organ supposedly devoted to America, South America and the “South Atlantic”?
Aug 15th, 2017 - 02:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0Who said it was devoted to America...? I take it you mean the US...
Aug 15th, 2017 - 04:54 pm - Link - Report abuse +1It says South Atlantic News Agency...not North Atlantic...
I'm sure this article is in the International section under Regions...(International)...
Hope this clarifies things for you..
Voice
Aug 15th, 2017 - 08:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We have had this argument already. America, to the cognoscente, means the USA, BUT the S.Americans viz Argentinians wish the word to apply to them as it gives them some status they would like to have.
And then you call me a fool??
Aug 15th, 2017 - 11:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You just showed yourself for the utter moron you are.
Firstly using “cognoscente” completely inappropriately, since that word means to be well versed or educated. Using America to the describe a country with no real name is totally fine to me, but any true intellectual would know America in the original sense did in fact apply to the entire landmass. So cognoscentes would be fine saying “Americans” as the term for United Statesians, but none would be caught making the stupid statement you just made.
Second, and once again your totally unwarranted sense of aggrandizement being at play, you think your silly English standards apply to everyone else. Wrong of course.
The Germans use “Amerikaner” often enough just as English speakers do, but only in colloquial form. In official and written language they always say or write “US-Amerikaner”. Always. As for the name of the country, in colloquial form Amerika dominates like in English, in written “Vereinigten Staaten” is used along side Amerika, a bit more than in English.
The French use “Etats-Unis” for the name of the-country most of the time, much less frequently Amerique. For the nationality they do use “americain”, again, not because of some primacy of status but simply because it is the easiest way to describe people from a nameless country.
Italian is much closer to Spanish. America has always meant the entire continent to them, though you can say the first focus would be the United States. But if they say they will go to America, by mo means does it mean they will go to the USA, they could be going anywhere.
Spanish and Portuguese obviously make full distinction. Estados Unidos is always the country, never America. And furthermore “estadounidense” is the most often used nationality word, “americano” is sometimes used in Portuguese and much more rarely in Spanish. Norteamericano is also used, and in Argentina or course, Anglo is more common for all English speakers.
The facts.
@Tr0lListic_Approach
Aug 16th, 2017 - 09:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0Kipatia wrote in English and claims to be a (US) American, and an idiotically nationalist one at that. I'm pretty sure she meant the USA, and she's wrong too, Mercopress claims to cover “an area of influence which includes South America, the South Atlantic and insular territories.”
It is mildly annoying that one country has monopolised the term that should apply to the whole continent though. It means you can't say things like “the US has a high murder rate compared to European countries, but compared to other American countries it's not so bad.” Instead you have to say something like 'countries in the Americas” which just sounds clumsy.
TTT
Aug 16th, 2017 - 10:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0From one moron to another. It got you upset did it ? Tough titty. America means the USA to the civilised world, which Argentina left decades ago.
Your understanding of English usage is apparent...you don't realise when some someone is taking the piss !
I did it as a piece of mischief as I could imagine you foaming at the mouth and ready to launch one of your usual tirades about NOTHING of importance.
In English, there are two continents. N.America and S.America....you can check this for yourself. I don't really care what the other world nations think as this is an ENGLISH speaking forum and English rules apply. Over here it is either the USA or AMERICA.
The North suffix is rarely used. We don't even class Canada in your all-embracing America.
For God's sake lighten up ! You are NOT the leading brain of the world or the holder of all the information in the world despite what you think !
Fact
Well......calm down Toby...
Aug 16th, 2017 - 02:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It is really what folk call themselves, not what other countries call them...
Yanks call themselves....wait for it...Americans and even tend to call their passport an American passport...
What do folk from Brazil call themselves...or folk from Columbia...?
What do you call yourself...?
Folks from Columbia also call themselves Americans. Did you mean Colombia?
Aug 16th, 2017 - 05:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0TTT
Aug 16th, 2017 - 10:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Firstly using “cognoscente” completely inappropriately, since that word means to be well versed or educated.”
I see that you do not understand irony.. The word cognoscente in English usage has a rather disparaging meaning...in common use it refers to an intellectual poseur.
With all your self proclaimed brilliant language skills you missed this. I see you also call yourself a true intellectual....pardon me if I disagree.
As I said, I posted this to see if you would respond in your usual histrionic way....you did.
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