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UK leaked paper targets cutting low skilled migrants from Europe in post-Brexit
Proposals aimed at cutting the numbers of low-skilled migrants from Europe following Brexit have been disclosed in a leaked Home Office paper. The document, obtained by The Guardian, suggests free movement will end upon exit in March 2019 and the UK will adopt a “more selective approach” based on the UK's economic and social needs. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesThis seems like a knee-jerk reaction. These “unskilled” jobs in many cases are in the agricultural sector which cannot be filled by local “workers” Many unemployed UK workers refuse to take these jobs when offered as they don't like the hours or working conditions.
Sep 06th, 2017 - 08:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0This has been shown in undercover TV reports. They would rather claim benefits than get off their backsides and fend for themselves.
I thought you could lose benefits if you refused to take a job? How do they get away with refusing to do them?
Sep 06th, 2017 - 11:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What exactly does low skilled mean...?
Sep 07th, 2017 - 09:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0Most tradesmen are low skilled...
I think they mean unskilled...
Voice
Sep 07th, 2017 - 08:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Most tradesmen are low skilled..”
Really? How many 'skilled' people like teachers have to get an electrician in because they are not qualified to perform electrical repairs?
Who is unskilled, the teacher or the electrician?
Do you consider a bricklayer or a gardener as unskilled?
Most tradesmen are not unskilled, they possess different skills to other professional workers.
”This seems like a knee-jerk reaction. These “unskilled” jobs in many cases are in the agricultural sector which cannot be filled by local “workers”
I would use the term hard and dirty work. It isn't a joke sitting on harvesting or planting machinery all day, and neither is sideshooting tomato plants easy. It's skilled but very hard. But I realise what you are saying hence the unskilled in quotation marks.
I agree, there are very good workers from overseas, especially Europe who are prepared to do jobs that people in this country aren't. In which case they should be allowed in as there is a need.
In my grandad's day, gangs of Gypsies helped out with harvesting, travelling from farm to farm.
However, in my opinion, workers from overseas bought in to undercut tradesmen here, where there are people available to do the jobs, should be stopped.
There has as you say, been a knee jerk reaction, even assuming that all supporting Brexit want to eliminate all immigration.
This is not the case, the aim is to stop over population, the swamping of public services, excess demand for housing that will ruin our countryside and original natives (i.e. the wildlife), and other demands of an excess population (including more emitted greenhouse gases which will not be carbon sunk as the grass that used to do it is built upon).
Compare the population of similar sized New Zealand with that of England (never mind the rest of the UK).
I stand by the statement...Pete...
Sep 08th, 2017 - 01:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0A competent person is how it is described to do Electrical work and Plumbing...must be installed by a competent person is the UK law...
Electrical wiring in a house is a piece of piss...a couple of ring mains and a loop in loop out circuit for the lighting...done all my own.....no real skill involved...
Renewed all my plumbing and fitted the boiler...all push fit, but soldering is a piece of cake...
Only part I wasn't supposed to do was connect to the gas main...but did it anyway..
I'm a wiz at bricklaying as I have mentioned before...built a couple of houses...
Joinery..effortless...
Car mechanical work and especially my motorcycle rebuilds..hardly skilful...Got a Mig too for welding...
...and yet my trade was none of those...(psst... it was highly skilled ...;-))
Like I said..most tradesman are hardly..highly skilled...more low skilled...and most folk can do it if they put their minds to it...
The question is why is this piece appearing in Mercopenguin, a British government propaganda organ supposedly devoted to America, South America and the “South Atlantic”?
Sep 08th, 2017 - 03:49 am - Link - Report abuse -1@Voice
Sep 08th, 2017 - 12:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Now you're just showing off. Most people can't do all of those things, and I have seen enough houses with interestingly screwed up electrical wiring to think there are plenty of people who don't have the required skills. I *certainly* don't want ignorant people messing with the gas main, and I include myself in that.
Anyway, the report said high skilled, so yes they do want to cut low skilled immigration as well as unskilled, and it would make sense to include tradesmen as they are one of the groups complaining about being undercut by cheaper labour. It wasn't teachers who voted for Brexit in large numbers.
DemonTree
Sep 08th, 2017 - 03:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are right, but I don't often get the opportunity to show off...
I think it all stems from how tight fisted I am, I can't bear to part with money for something I'm capable of doing...
I do think the UK will suffer without the Eastern Europeans willingness to get on with a job at a reasonable rate and quick response...
The locals don't appear to give a crap about customer satisfaction...
Voice
Sep 08th, 2017 - 03:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If YOU connected your gas to the mains then your house insurance is null and void.
@Voice
Sep 08th, 2017 - 05:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How stereotypical. And you are probably right, that's why the people who employ plumbers voted to stay in but the ones who work as plumbers voted to leave.
@Clyde15
I suspect he needs to get his electrical work certified as well, looks like the law is similar in Scotland.
I've had a bad experience with push-fit pipes...
Only need electrical work certified if you are going to rent out or sell...if it is for yourself no problem...
Sep 08th, 2017 - 06:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The problem Clyde is the insurance or the gas board haven't got a clue when or by whom the work was done...remember I upgraded...
Piece of cake 22 mm copper pipe soldered joints...
You will never believe how I tested it...that's right..I used a lighter and put a flame around the joints...oh dear....
I was fairly confident though it was ok first...
I saw a plumber do it once...he said a tiny amount of flame escaping could be extinguished with your finger, if it leaks and if not, you know for sure that it's OK..
DemonTree
A field mouse chewed through a 15mm elbow on the push-fit under the floor...I never noticed for the best part of a week...
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